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| 00:54.31 | R0b0t1 | mfw 0xFFFF segfaults |
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| 03:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ummm |
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| 04:54.01 | honestly | R0b0t1, invalid access to address 0xFFFF? |
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| 05:21.12 | R0b0t1 | . |
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| 05:27.09 | svetlana | I was wondering the same as well. |
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| 09:53.35 | jj15 | I'm trying to cross compile some C software I've developed but I'm having a tough time installing the maemo SDK. All the docs are for old versions of Debian, and the SDK link is dead. |
| 09:54.05 | KotCzarny | ~sdk |
| 09:54.05 | infobot | sdk is probably http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" |
| 09:54.08 | KotCzarny | ~scratchbox |
| 09:54.08 | infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 09:54.21 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-sdk |
| 09:54.21 | infobot | [maemo-sdk] the development environment for the Nokia Internet Tablets, found here: http://maemo.org/development/ |
| 09:55.00 | KotCzarny | i think you may be interested in the last link |
| 09:55.45 | jj15 | Will check these out thank you. The first paste is dead, 404. |
| 09:55.53 | KotCzarny | but last time i've installed sdk it was as simple as downloading install script and running it |
| 09:56.01 | KotCzarny | + some tweaking for my particular system |
| 09:57.00 | KotCzarny | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/ |
| 09:57.22 | KotCzarny | there is: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0.sh and http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh |
| 09:57.43 | jj15 | I think I'm over complicating this. |
| 09:57.54 | KotCzarny | definitely |
| 09:58.14 | KotCzarny | sdk installs itself, you might have problems with expired repos though so: |
| 09:58.17 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 09:58.17 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 10:04.12 | bencoh | jj15: setting a maemo/scratchbox buildenv on debian7 works |
| 10:04.20 | bencoh | (tested a year ago) |
| 10:04.56 | bencoh | I followed the wiki with just a few minor changes, if any |
| 10:09.54 | jj15 | bencoh: I'm running the maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh at the moment. Few issue but I'll get past them and see how it goes. |
| 10:12.17 | bencoh | I used http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Manual_Installation |
| 10:12.25 | bencoh | (not the install script) |
| 10:12.37 | KotCzarny | jj15, did you install scratchbox first? |
| 10:13.21 | jj15 | KotCzarny: yea |
| 10:17.16 | jj15 | bencoh: Setup a new VM will try the manual install guide. |
| 10:18.11 | KotCzarny | jj15, i think there is vm image with sdk somewhere |
| 10:19.24 | KotCzarny | http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ |
| 10:19.25 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 10:19.33 | KotCzarny | mind you, i've never used it |
| 10:27.56 | bencoh | hmm ... I had never seen this page before |
| 10:28.40 | KotCzarny | garage is a dump full of little treasures |
| 10:30.11 | jj15 | The image links are dead too. They link to nokia. |
| 10:35.10 | bencoh | jj15: there are some mirrors around on the internet, if you really need it |
| 10:35.17 | bencoh | ~sb |
| 10:35.17 | infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 10:38.17 | KotCzarny | hmm, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/migration-project/backed-up-sites-v1.txt has a list of maemo sites, were they backuped or it's just a list? |
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| 11:36.43 | jj15 | So far so good with the manual install. Everything is running ok. |
| 11:36.51 | jj15 | Takes a long time though |
| 11:36.57 | KotCzarny | manual == .sh way? |
| 11:37.29 | jj15 | No, just following the instructions on the wiki that bencoh gave. |
| 11:37.37 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 11:38.03 | bencoh | jj15: no need to change anything ? |
| 11:38.25 | jj15 | So far no. |
| 11:38.30 | bencoh | nice :) |
| 11:38.36 | bencoh | wheezy or jessie ? |
| 11:38.50 | jj15 | Wheezy. My host is jessie but thought i'd set it up on Wheezy. |
| 11:49.01 | jj15 | All done. Time to test now. |
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| 11:57.21 | totalizator | it's still possible to install N900 using scripts - like I did few weeks (months) ago |
| 11:57.54 | totalizator | N900 SDK* |
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| 13:11.30 | mp107 | Welcome. I need some help regarding Maemo. The problem is not difficult. |
| 13:11.42 | mp107 | I need a response from command "ls -l /home". Why? Once I forget to add after tar -xvzf comand -C parameter (specify where I want to unpack file) and now I have some trash in /home directory. |
| 13:12.02 | mp107 | I simply want to clean it up. :) |
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| 13:13.41 | mp107 | ... and avoid accidental deleting Maemo's files. |
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| 13:25.47 | sixwheeledbeast | mp107: Not sure I understand |
| 13:26.34 | mp107 | I need know which folders and files inside /home directory are created by Maemo on default. |
| 13:27.25 | mp107 | because I accidentaly unpacked here some archive with many files and folders. |
| 13:29.06 | sixwheeledbeast | oh well. user and opt IIRC |
| 13:29.20 | mp107 | only? |
| 13:29.26 | sixwheeledbeast | maybe lost&found |
| 13:29.56 | mp107 | are there any files? |
| 13:30.27 | sixwheeledbeast | nope |
| 13:30.48 | sixwheeledbeast | files should be in MyDocs |
| 13:31.04 | sixwheeledbeast | or /home/user/MyDocs |
| 13:31.11 | sixwheeledbeast | that is |
| 13:31.11 | mp107 | About it I know. |
| 13:31.14 | mp107 | Thank you. I hope I won't mess it up and have to reflash. |
| 13:31.59 | mp107 | I have unpacked here N12_UMay.tar.bz2 and that's why I have to clean it up. |
| 13:32.12 | sixwheeledbeast | I am surprised it hasn't complained about lack of memory yet. |
| 13:33.22 | mp107 | I habe extended /home partition |
| 13:33.29 | mp107 | *have |
| 13:33.54 | mp107 | Probably that's why. :) |
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| 13:38.26 | bencoh | mp107: tar tf N12_UMay.tar.bz2 to see what it created |
| 13:39.08 | mp107 | Thank you. |
| 13:40.28 | mp107 | To be honest I was unsure mostly about system folder. It have many files and I didn't want to remove something created by Maemo. |
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| 14:34.21 | jj15 | What compiler do I use from scratchbox? They are all titled "arm-none-linux...". What's the "none-linux" mean? |
| 14:35.04 | jj15 | I see "none-linux-*-gcc" |
| 14:35.34 | bencoh | http://wiki.osdev.org/Target_Triplet |
| 14:36.46 | bencoh | or https://community.freescale.com/message/354077#354077 |
| 14:39.27 | jj15 | thanks bencoh. Makes sense now. |
| 14:43.21 | jj15 | Worked. Need to test on N900 now. file shows 32 bit arm executable. |
| 14:44.24 | bencoh | :) |
| 14:45.05 | bencoh | try building using the debian build procedure/infra when possible (dpkg-buildpackage) |
| 14:45.48 | bencoh | it can save you some trouble regarding the toolchain, plus you'll be able to upload to extras :) |
| 14:47.23 | jj15 | Ah, will give that a try. Surprised I've had no major issues thus far. |
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| 16:09.06 | jj15 | Finally tested on N900 and the executable worked without issues. Finally got there. Thank you bencoh. |
| 16:11.34 | jj15 | Will brb |
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| 16:12.25 | jj15 | bk |
| 16:33.41 | Sicelo | what is the executable btw |
| 16:35.10 | kerio | freemangordon: what was the state of crypto hw accel on the n900? |
| 16:35.12 | kerio | do we have aes? |
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| 18:57.36 | Luke-Jr | yay random reboots :< |
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| 19:09.35 | red-dragon | hi |
| 19:19.34 | Sicelo | ~jrtools |
| 19:19.34 | infobot | jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 20:26.34 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 20:48.53 | red-dragon | :) |
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| 21:59.02 | lardman | hi all, hope everyone's well |
| 21:59.19 | lardman | Who is our IRC group contact ATM? |
| 22:04.09 | ShadowJK | nfi :) |
| 22:04.22 | ShadowJK | What have you been up to lately? |
| 22:06.41 | lardman | lol |
| 22:07.24 | lardman | not much, working (day job), two kids now (1x 1yo, 1x ~4yo) |
| 22:07.47 | lardman | feeling I need to escape from Android and hoping my Jolla tablet turns up soon |
| 22:08.02 | lardman | and you? |
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| 22:19.02 | red-dragon | :D |
| 22:41.34 | lardman | night all |
| 22:42.06 | bencoh | 'night :) |
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| 23:17.44 | red-dragon | hey has anyone managed to get gnuradio working |
| 23:18.07 | red-dragon | on n900 |
| 23:18.13 | red-dragon | for use with rtlsdr |
| 23:22.50 | bencoh | I suspect that would be dead slow |
| 23:23.41 | red-dragon | you know what mate |
| 23:23.45 | red-dragon | i never thought of that |
| 23:23.50 | red-dragon | shit |
| 23:24.35 | red-dragon | hmmm |
| 23:24.40 | red-dragon | ok |
| 23:24.57 | red-dragon | what about overclocked ? |
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| 23:25.42 | bencoh | I doubt it would be anywere near enough, but ... :-) |
| 23:27.21 | red-dragon | what about collection |
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| 23:27.59 | red-dragon | i dont really need Digital Voice Decoding |
| 23:28.15 | bencoh | n900 has a C64+ DSP, so I guess with a *lot* of willpower, a good amount of skill, and quite some time, you could write some of the primitives for the C64+ and rewrite gnuradio to benefit from it |
| 23:28.19 | bencoh | but .... meh :-) |
| 23:28.28 | bencoh | collection ? |
| 23:28.37 | bencoh | what do you want to do with rtlsdr ? |
| 23:29.13 | red-dragon | well, i been looking at the FM radio |
| 23:29.35 | red-dragon | and i was thinking if i could send data over it, shortrange |
| 23:29.51 | ShadowJK | The range is 10 metres at best |
| 23:29.58 | red-dragon | really |
| 23:30.05 | red-dragon | i get more than that with my pi and a wire |
| 23:30.06 | red-dragon | lol |
| 23:30.26 | red-dragon | does the FM radio output via antenna |
| 23:30.29 | red-dragon | like the headphones |
| 23:30.32 | ShadowJK | Yes well, transmitters that are not homemade have to follow regulations :) |
| 23:30.42 | red-dragon | why ? |
| 23:30.48 | ShadowJK | ... |
| 23:30.57 | red-dragon | no i mean like |
| 23:31.02 | red-dragon | who says ? |
| 23:31.02 | ShadowJK | Because otherwise the device would not have been allowed to be sold? |
| 23:31.55 | bencoh | I'm not even sure what's the regulation regarding FM transmitters (over really short range) |
| 23:32.13 | bencoh | I wonder if it's not just tolerated |
| 23:32.26 | ShadowJK | There are rules |
| 23:32.30 | ShadowJK | in most places |
| 23:32.31 | red-dragon | well i going to be looking at the radio firmware soon |
| 23:32.48 | red-dragon | i trying to rip from an android device at moment |
| 23:33.11 | ShadowJK | But more or less if you transmit at power levels that give you 10 metres range, it's below what's considered "harmful interference" |
| 23:33.50 | red-dragon | hmmm |
| 23:34.25 | red-dragon | im actually looking for 100m |
| 23:34.25 | bencoh | ShadowJK: yeah I mean, the regulation regarding the "~10meters range" |
| 23:34.27 | red-dragon | lol |
| 23:34.36 | bencoh | but ... probably like you said |
| 23:35.27 | red-dragon | See I could put the radio on my RPi, then stream to the phone that would prolly be a better alternative |
| 23:35.32 | red-dragon | i got more control over it then |
| 23:39.44 | ShadowJK | https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-297510A1.pdf |
| 23:41.58 | ShadowJK | https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet63/oet63rev.pdf |
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| 23:46.44 | ShadowJK | So this permits 500 microvolt/m at a range of 3m for wifi frequencies, and 150 microvolt/m at a range of 3m for FM |
| 23:47.18 | ShadowJK | Oh actually it's higher for spread spectrum on wifi bands (which wifi is) |
| 23:50.50 | red-dragon | could it be overclocked lol |
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