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| 10:25.35 | R0b0t1 | has anyone tried to RE nolo yet |
| 10:28.35 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75504 |
| 10:28.39 | KotCzarny | this guy played with it |
| 10:30.38 | R0b0t1 | neat |
| 10:31.11 | R0b0t1 | any way to put u-boot on device not on the device? |
| 10:31.22 | R0b0t1 | through USB or something |
| 10:32.12 | KotCzarny | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing |
| 10:32.22 | KotCzarny | but look for u-boot threads if you must |
| 10:32.32 | KotCzarny | ~uboot |
| 10:32.32 | infobot | N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 |
| 10:32.46 | KotCzarny | ~u-boot |
| 10:32.46 | infobot | from memory, u-boot is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 |
| 10:34.02 | bencoh | "on device not on the device" ? |
| 10:34.06 | R0b0t1 | yeah I tried searching and couldn't find any of that stuff |
| 10:34.13 | bencoh | what do you mean ? |
| 10:34.15 | R0b0t1 | I did get u-boot to compile successfully though! |
| 10:34.27 | R0b0t1 | bencoh: I mean, controlling the device via USB and not running commands on the device. |
| 10:34.36 | KotCzarny | see above |
| 10:34.43 | KotCzarny | especially cold boot wiki entry |
| 10:34.53 | R0b0t1 | I'm kind of miffed so much n900 development focuses on modifying the device from the device, that's the annoying way to do everything :\ |
| 10:34.58 | R0b0t1 | yeah now that I know what they call it |
| 10:35.07 | bencoh | I'd ask Pali about that |
| 10:35.39 | bencoh | but I guess uboot can be treated like a regular "kernel" from nolo's point of view |
| 10:35.48 | R0b0t1 | yeah |
| 10:36.04 | bencoh | and thus you might be able to just load uboot wih flasher or 0xffff |
| 10:36.17 | bencoh | then again, Pali is probably your best bet :) |
| 10:39.26 | R0b0t1 | yeah I went to highlight him but he wasn't here |
| 10:39.53 | R0b0t1 | his kernel fork compiles though, which is far better than some of the devices I've used... |
| 10:45.14 | KotCzarny | http://i.imgur.com/OK9ew.jpg |
| 10:45.58 | KotCzarny | i shall make me some cat boot logo |
| 10:46.28 | APic | Kudos. |
| 10:58.40 | KotCzarny | this n900 is really awesome in the way you can even boot nolo via usb |
| 10:58.46 | KotCzarny | with zeroed nand |
| 10:59.23 | APic | Yes. |
| 10:59.34 | APic | Metafallbacks. B-) |
| 11:00.13 | Luke-Jr | what? if NAND is zeroed, then NOLO is gone, isn't it? |
| 11:00.25 | KotCzarny | yes, but you can make it boot nolo via usb |
| 11:00.36 | KotCzarny | unless i misread the thread |
| 11:00.51 | KotCzarny | luke-jr: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware/Cold_Flashing |
| 11:01.23 | Luke-Jr | Oh O.o |
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| 11:10.46 | bencoh | yes, this device is awesome :) |
| 11:13.27 | Luke-Jr | was* |
| 11:13.34 | KotCzarny | IS |
| 11:13.44 | Luke-Jr | sorry, N900 is dead |
| 11:13.53 | bencoh | noooo! :) |
| 11:14.12 | Luke-Jr | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK1B8zpWIAANAIx.jpg:orig |
| 11:14.12 | KotCzarny | checks, nope, alive and doing what i want it to do |
| 11:14.35 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: yeah, just not the size form-factor though |
| 11:14.40 | Luke-Jr | it's better :P |
| 11:14.55 | Luke-Jr | N900's size/form-factor has always been one of its weaknesses |
| 11:14.56 | bencoh | but yeah, might be going for pyra too (not as a replacement) |
| 11:14.56 | KotCzarny | but its ugly |
| 11:14.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:15.11 | KotCzarny | n900 size is ok |
| 11:15.20 | KotCzarny | keyboard could be bigger a bit |
| 11:15.22 | KotCzarny | but its ok |
| 11:15.27 | Luke-Jr | I miss my Zaurus keyboard. |
| 11:15.33 | Luke-Jr | I hope Pyra's is comparable. |
| 11:15.40 | bencoh | a bit too thick, and screen is small by today's standards, but ... |
| 11:15.44 | KotCzarny | i miss my thinkpads keyboard on everything |
| 11:16.15 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: all the layouts look horrible ... I dunno what they're going to release, but ... ^^ |
| 11:16.21 | bencoh | (pyra I mean) |
| 11:17.23 | Luke-Jr | final kb layout: http://boards.openpandora.org/uploads/post-1-0-88080100-1438221841.jpg |
| 11:18.05 | KotCzarny | do they have 1point click or are sliding down? |
| 11:18.16 | KotCzarny | i hate those cheap keycaps that wiggle |
| 11:18.18 | Luke-Jr | KotCzarny: I don't understand that question |
| 11:20.13 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: meh ESC at the top |
| 11:20.58 | KotCzarny | +1 bencoh |
| 11:21.10 | Luke-Jr | at least it should all be remappable |
| 11:21.10 | KotCzarny | but at least its there |
| 11:21.30 | bencoh | yeah |
| 11:21.32 | Luke-Jr | wonders if N900 even has an Esc, since he never uses it.. |
| 11:21.41 | bencoh | n900 has no esc key |
| 11:22.07 | R0b0t1 | Luke-Jr: what is |
| 11:22.07 | KotCzarny | i think its fn-ctrl |
| 11:22.08 | Luke-Jr | if I was going to complain, I think it'd be at the Ctrl key being so far from the thumbs |
| 11:22.10 | bencoh | mine is remapped to Fn+{the key next to backspace} |
| 11:22.14 | KotCzarny | or shift ctrl |
| 11:22.14 | Luke-Jr | R0b0t1: ? |
| 11:22.19 | R0b0t1 | http://boards.openpandora.org/uploads/post-1-0-88080100-1438221841.jpg |
| 11:22.22 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: that too |
| 11:22.30 | Luke-Jr | R0b0t1: Pyra |
| 11:22.30 | bencoh | R0b0t1: pyra |
| 11:22.41 | KotCzarny | last time i booted rescueos it was mapped there |
| 11:22.50 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: oO didn't see it was in the middle oO |
| 11:22.54 | KotCzarny | and then found it on n900 |
| 11:22.57 | bencoh | seriously ... |
| 11:23.03 | Luke-Jr | as much as I like what they did with the editing keys, I might decide to remap those to Ctrl/Alt |
| 11:23.48 | bencoh | KotCzarny: fn+ctrl is "compose" |
| 11:23.56 | bencoh | shift+ctrl doesnt do anything special here |
| 11:24.13 | KotCzarny | maybe its in console only |
| 11:24.14 | bencoh | I guess it's in rescueOS only |
| 11:24.21 | bencoh | or console |
| 11:25.35 | R0b0t1 | pyra looks pretty good |
| 11:26.01 | bencoh | woot marxian just released a RSS reader <3 |
| 11:26.33 | Luke-Jr | Pyra's biggest flaw seems to be void of cameras |
| 11:28.01 | bencoh | and size (doesnt fit in your pocket) |
| 11:28.20 | R0b0t1 | I'd say it's competing with something like the nvidia shield |
| 11:28.24 | R0b0t1 | it doesn't need to |
| 11:28.33 | R0b0t1 | but it'd be neat if they could get something that works in a smaller formfactor |
| 11:29.20 | bencoh | and it doesnt slide ... but that's an issue only if you think of it as a phablet on steroids (which it's probably not) |
| 11:31.50 | Luke-Jr | bencoh: what? Pyra should fit in pockets, I think? |
| 11:32.42 | R0b0t1 | large pockets. might be tight in a lot of jeans |
| 11:38.06 | bencoh | a really large one |
| 11:38.15 | bencoh | wont fit in mine |
| 11:38.25 | bencoh | or the backpocket maybe |
| 11:38.27 | KotCzarny | i dont mind clam designs |
| 11:39.52 | R0b0t1 | dangit |
| 11:40.03 | R0b0t1 | I think I'll have to wait for pali, all of these guides gloss over a lot of stuff |
| 11:40.21 | KotCzarny | learn. read. try. |
| 11:40.35 | bencoh | R0b0t1: might be time for a spare n900 :] |
| 11:40.40 | R0b0t1 | well I know enough that I'd just be flailing blindly at this point |
| 11:40.59 | R0b0t1 | sadly I don't have easy access to a serial terminal to be able to control the system like on my other devboards |
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| 11:41.22 | bencoh | there is a way for that, but ... |
| 11:41.30 | KotCzarny | ... |
| 11:41.38 | KotCzarny | i've pasted n900's serial pinout before |
| 11:41.46 | KotCzarny | you dont even check those links, do you? |
| 11:41.58 | bencoh | https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking |
| 11:42.11 | KotCzarny | yup, pasted it few days ago for the same question |
| 11:42.15 | R0b0t1 | I do |
| 11:42.20 | R0b0t1 | I don't want to have to open it up |
| 11:42.21 | R0b0t1 | ;-; |
| 11:42.34 | R0b0t1 | "easy access" |
| 11:42.37 | R0b0t1 | not "any access" |
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| 11:43.35 | bencoh | you dont need to "open it up" but it's still not "easy", and you need a level shifter |
| 11:43.39 | bencoh | (or a 1.8V ttl) |
| 11:44.50 | bencoh | I wouldn't play with that |
| 11:45.13 | KotCzarny | especially that once can have easy usb networking |
| 11:45.17 | KotCzarny | *one |
| 11:45.34 | KotCzarny | or fbconsole |
| 11:45.47 | bencoh | KotCzarny: fbconsole/usbnet in ... bootloader stage ? :D |
| 11:46.01 | bencoh | he wants to reverse nolo and/or play with uboot ;) |
| 11:46.18 | KotCzarny | not only that |
| 11:46.40 | KotCzarny | but for nolo, its just poking in the dark |
| 11:46.44 | KotCzarny | unless you know arm asm |
| 11:47.26 | R0b0t1 | I have a 1.8V tty. If I can find some springy pins laying around, I'll use those so I don't have to solder to the pads. |
| 11:50.28 | KotCzarny | or make 'connector' from cut plastic/wood with holes |
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| 18:50.23 | stryngs | For monitor mode on the n900, is there a way to keep the NIC able to connect and associate with an AP? |
| 18:50.33 | stryngs | I know the current way does modprobe and such to enable the hacked driver |
| 18:50.41 | stryngs | Was curious on thoughts to enable both? |
| 18:51.02 | L29Ah | use the fresh kernel ;) |
| 18:51.56 | stryngs | frsh kernel? |
| 18:52.00 | stryngs | What do u mean? |
| 18:52.02 | stryngs | kp is what i have now |
| 18:52.26 | stryngs | kp53 is most recent, yes? |
| 18:52.34 | KotCzarny | he means 4.x |
| 18:53.50 | stryngs | Hmm |
| 18:53.57 | stryngs | I'm using: kernel-power-flasher_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb |
| 18:53.59 | stryngs | Right now |
| 18:54.04 | stryngs | Are u saying I should use something else? |
| 18:54.20 | stryngs | kernelpower-bootimg, flasher, headers, modules |
| 19:10.10 | Pali | stryngs: kp53 contains also "hacked" wlan module |
| 19:10.18 | Pali | ~packet-injection |
| 19:10.28 | Pali | bah infobot is dead |
| 19:10.30 | stryngs | Right |
| 19:11.01 | stryngs | Pali: What I was wondering, is, if there is a way to enable monitor mode via iw |
| 19:11.12 | stryngs | versus having to run the script and modprobe the modules |
| 19:11.22 | Pali | stryngs: with packet injection modules, answer is yes |
| 19:11.38 | Pali | you need to unload normal and load packet injection modules |
| 19:11.43 | stryngs | Right |
| 19:11.55 | stryngs | And those modules, they take away the ability to connect to an access point, correct? |
| 19:11.56 | Pali | but now in kp53 should be packet injection module stable for everyday use |
| 19:12.25 | Pali | no, packet injection modules are just backported wl1251 modules from upstream kernel to 2.6.28 |
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| 19:12.42 | stryngs | So that leads me to two questions now: |
| 19:12.53 | stryngs | Monitor Mode/Packet Injection mode, EATS up the battery life |
| 19:13.01 | stryngs | You're saying they are stable for normal use? |
| 19:13.23 | Pali | in kp52 packet inkection wl1251 module sometimes crashed kernel |
| 19:13.30 | Pali | in kp53 this should be fixed |
| 19:13.56 | stryngs | Ok, perhaps I need to play around with how I'm enabling monitor mode then |
| 19:14.08 | stryngs | Do you have the URL for the most current and proper way to load the modules Pali ? |
| 19:14.14 | stryngs | I know yer the author and all =) |
| 19:14.20 | Pali | monitor mode of course will eat more battery then normal managed mode |
| 19:14.29 | stryngs | Right |
| 19:14.40 | stryngs | I thought the simple act of modprobing the hacked drivers is what caused the drain |
| 19:14.53 | Pali | but normal mode of packed injestion wl1251 module should use same battery as stock module |
| 19:15.06 | Pali | no it should not |
| 19:15.12 | stryngs | Ok, very cool |
| 19:15.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 19:15.15 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 19:15.26 | stryngs | And the location for directions on enabling injection and drivers Pali ? |
| 19:15.30 | Pali | but if you ifconfig wlan0 up then it will eat battery |
| 19:15.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys inject |
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| 19:16.08 | Pali | there is some problem in wlancond/ic2/... when wl1251 is loaded *after* starting that daemons they can eat more battery |
| 19:16.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget inject a robot who's sole job it |
| 19:16.21 | infobot | i forgot inject a robot who's sole job it, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 19:16.25 | Pali | and there is another thing: you need wlancond from CSSU |
| 19:16.35 | stryngs | Hmm |
| 19:16.43 | Pali | otherwise there will be battery drain with packed injected wl1251 module |
| 19:16.47 | stryngs | Can i just straight dpkg -i the .deb? |
| 19:16.54 | Pali | yes, that is enough |
| 19:17.04 | Pali | just need to use fixed wlancond binary |
| 19:17.04 | stryngs | I don't use cssu because of how my file system is laid out |
| 19:17.15 | stryngs | Copy, so I've a new .deb to add to the mix, fun =) |
| 19:17.30 | Pali | here is script for loading packet-injection: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/packet-injection.sh |
| 19:17.38 | stryngs | Copy that |
| 19:17.45 | stryngs | And the url for the wlancond.deb I should use? |
| 19:17.49 | Pali | w8 |
| 19:18.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | wlan chip eats LOTS of power when in scanning mode |
| 19:18.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's the reason why there's a setting "interval to search for APs" |
| 19:18.44 | Pali | http://repository.maemo.org/community/pool/fremantle/free/o/osso-wlan/osso-wlan_3.0.20.1%2b0cssu2_armel.deb |
| 19:19.20 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: maemo system for scanning doing: ifconfig wlan0 up; scan; ifconfig wlan0 down |
| 19:19.32 | Pali | even up-ed interface eat battery |
| 19:19.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | and ideally you should set interval to "never" when you leave home and don't want to waste battery on wlan chip uselessly searching for APs |
| 19:19.57 | Pali | and when you "switch" drivers there can be problem and system stay in "up" state forever |
| 19:20.01 | Pali | or in down state forever |
| 19:20.02 | stryngs | Hehe |
| 19:20.20 | stryngs | Note for ya'll: Having it search for APs == seg fault for most packet injection / monitor mode programs on the n900 |
| 19:20.27 | Pali | stryngs: package name is osso-wlan, see link up ^^^ |
| 19:20.28 | stryngs | As soon as it searches, segfault |
| 19:20.33 | stryngs | Already grabbed it Pali |
| 19:20.46 | stryngs | I'll Be playing with it tonight |
| 19:20.47 | stryngs | I'm excited |
| 19:21.11 | Pali | if there are any problems with packet injection wl1251 module from kp53, please report ir |
| 19:21.14 | Pali | *it |
| 19:21.49 | stryngs | Sure |
| 19:21.56 | stryngs | But the problem is just the way the scanning works is all |
| 19:21.56 | Pali | stryngs: here is also dbg and doc package (in case you need them too): http://repository.maemo.org/community/pool/fremantle/free/o/osso-wlan/ |
| 19:22.18 | stryngs | As soon as it sends probe requests looking for known APs it has connected to before, it kills whatever was using monitor/injection |
| 19:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw wlan AP scan also causes dropouts on BT A2DP aka "listening to music" |
| 19:22.46 | Pali | ideally via my packet-injection.sh script set to packet injection modules to load at startup |
| 19:22.49 | Pali | and reboot device |
| 19:23.04 | Pali | and after that do tests (because of that up/down conflicts) |
| 19:23.12 | stryngs | Interesting Pali, I never knew the drivers were stable like that |
| 19:23.16 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: is there any way for fixing that problem |
| 19:23.22 | stryngs | I'd just always assumed it was a bug for having monitor mode capabilities |
| 19:23.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | set wlan ap scan time to 5min and you can adjust your clock to the headset dropouts every 300s |
| 19:23.28 | Pali | a2dp vs scan |
| 19:23.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I guess no |
| 19:23.36 | stryngs | Right, but just so ya'll know: |
| 19:23.43 | stryngs | "load injection capabilities" |
| 19:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: prlly introduced by hardwired coexistence |
| 19:23.49 | stryngs | "iwconfig wlan0 channel 6" |
| 19:23.57 | stryngs | "tcpdump -i wlan0 -lnX -s0" |
| 19:24.03 | stryngs | As SOON as it probes, tcpdump dies |
| 19:24.08 | stryngs | because iface wlan0 goes down |
| 19:24.22 | stryngs | And this IS due to the probing |
| 19:24.24 | stryngs | It's not a worry |
| 19:24.36 | stryngs | Just know that u can't have probing enabled when yer playing monitor mode |
| 19:24.37 | Pali | stryngs: you need to turn of that autoscan in systemsettings |
| 19:24.43 | stryngs | Oh, I do. |
| 19:24.51 | stryngs | I just wasn't sure if ya'll were aware =) |
| 19:24.54 | stryngs | THat's all =) |
| 19:24.57 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: that problem will be there also in neo900? |
| 19:25.20 | stryngs | Ofc Pali |
| 19:25.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | good question. Might actually occur in Neo900 too |
| 19:25.28 | stryngs | It will occur |
| 19:25.31 | Pali | aaah no :-( |
| 19:25.35 | stryngs | You cannot send probe requests |
| 19:25.40 | stryngs | period. |
| 19:25.56 | stryngs | Just know u turn off autoscan is all |
| 19:25.58 | stryngs | =) |
| 19:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | but the WLAN module in Neo is more advanced than the one in N900, so maybe they fixed that issue |
| 19:26.04 | stryngs | Hmm |
| 19:26.09 | stryngs | Interesting to see DocScrutinizer05 |
| 19:26.52 | stryngs | I do love the fact that people hate on my n900, but yet bitch when all the sudden they are de-auth'd from the wifi.... |
| 19:27.01 | stryngs | "My smartphone can kick your smartphones ass" |
| 19:27.05 | stryngs | That's what I tell em =) |
| 19:28.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I'm not completely sure if it could get fixed by not having any "anonymous" (hidden SSID) APs configured. Basically I suspect only WLAN TX would cause BT dropouts and TX is not needed when the WLAN doesn't need to ping an anonymous AP and ask "are you FOOBAR?" |
| 19:29.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: also the WLAN/BT integration on Neo900 is way tighter than on N900 |
| 19:30.06 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: on my laptop I have one bt/wifi chip on one half-mini-pcie card |
| 19:30.13 | Pali | and I do not see this problem |
| 19:30.24 | stryngs | So... Pali, on my n900, after looking at it, I do not, nor have I ever installed the osso-wlan_3.0.20.1%2b0cssu2_armel.deb. You're saying the benefit to this package is that it will help battery life? |
| 19:30.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, I think it's actually a bug in N900 wlan/bt firmware |
| 19:30.54 | Pali | stryngs: osso-wlan is needed for battery life of packet injection drivers |
| 19:31.09 | stryngs | Very cool! |
| 19:31.30 | stryngs | That was the thing I hated with the current rig I have. As soon as I enable monitor mode, even if I disable it later on, the battery gets eaten |
| 19:31.39 | stryngs | Have to turn it off and on again to prevent it |
| 19:31.42 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, in n900 there is one chip (from TI) for wifi and one (from broadcom) for BT+FM |
| 19:32.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 19:32.18 | Pali | so maybe bug in TI or broadcom firmware... |
| 19:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 19:32.30 | Pali | or maybe problem just because it is not one chip? |
| 19:32.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | on Neo900 both chips will be in same module, same manuf, maybe even same chip |
| 19:33.02 | Pali | that sounds better |
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| 19:33.18 | Pali | all WIFI+BT+FM_RX+FM_TX? |
| 19:33.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 19:33.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless we can't source the module |
| 19:33.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 19:34.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | recently has 20 weeks lead time |
| 19:34.08 | Pali | will be there same fuckup like on n900... when you enable fm rx it also start bluetooth? |
| 19:34.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sort of |
| 19:34.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | they share same interface |
| 19:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | that however doesn't mean BT us *up* |
| 19:35.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | is* |
| 19:35.05 | Pali | but can be any of those 4 parts disabled/enabled separately? |
| 19:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | they all can get enabled/disabled separately |
| 19:35.25 | Pali | or when FM_RX is up also BT must be up? |
| 19:35.32 | Pali | ok, thats enough |
| 19:35.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | they just share same interface and thus BT interface needs power to work |
| 19:36.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | that doesn't mean BT TX is enabled |
| 19:36.45 | stryngs | heh |
| 19:36.48 | stryngs | 900+ eur |
| 19:36.54 | stryngs | It'll be an insane price to pay |
| 19:36.56 | stryngs | But.. I will =) |
| 19:38.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | (source the module) there are other almost identical modules, but they usually don't (officially) support the FM, either TX or even both |
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| 19:40.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | would suck if we need a separate chip for FM (like in N900) just because they didn't solder the antenna pins of the chip inside their WLAN module |
| 19:41.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | some modules are known to work just fine for FM despite it's not even mentioned as feature in the module datasheet |
| 19:41.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly a certification thing too |
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| 19:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk o/ |
| 19:43.04 | stryngs | Pali: Thanks for the help today |
| 19:43.22 | stryngs | Pali: I run monitor mode quite frequently, so if I see a bug with the way things go, I'll be the first to let u know |
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| 19:46.18 | Pali | ok |
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