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| 01:38.54 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 03:27.56 | pentanol | hi all, can someone suggest me player for midi on n900? |
| 03:29.41 | robbiethe1st | um... wildmidi |
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| 03:41.24 | R0b0t1 | How do I install packages not listed in application manager? I'm trying to install 0xFFFF, some dependencies are missing. |
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| 03:56.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos |
| 03:56.25 | infobot | well, repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
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| 04:08.33 | R0b0t1 | now if only there were one with signed debs |
| 04:08.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 04:09.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | signed by whom? |
| 04:11.32 | robbiethe1st | By DocScrutinizer05 of course. |
| 04:11.39 | robbiethe1st | Who else would we trust? |
| 04:11.41 | R0b0t1 | by anything |
| 04:12.22 | R0b0t1 | if all packages are signed at least the chances of someone mitming them is greatly reduced, which is probably the only viable threat there is |
| 04:12.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'd think they are *all* signed by Nokia |
| 04:12.46 | R0b0t1 | afaik all of the repos but the maemo.org ones are dead |
| 04:13.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 04:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | could you please repeat what's your problem? |
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| 04:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I ponted you to repos, they have e.g. http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/Packages.gz which in turn has md5sum for each package. the file Packages.gz itself *is* signed by Nokia with a key that expired years ago |
| 04:18.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 04:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | so neither "all of the repos are dead" nor "if only there were one with signed debs" really makes any sense to me |
| 04:22.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/Release http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/Release.gpg |
| 04:24.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I'm too tired and completely mistaken, but it seems to me there hardly could be any better signature than that |
| 04:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I think iEYEABECAAYFAk is rather funny, reading it like i EYE ABECA AY FAk |
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| 05:15.19 | R0b0t1 | DocScrutinizer05: oic |
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| 07:23.52 | KotCzarny | pentanol: oscp can play midis |
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| 07:41.57 | pentanol | KotCzarny maybe I will try this |
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| 08:01.54 | bencoh | actually the only real solution to this (non-)"issue" would be to have the packages resigned by one of the maemo keys, but ... :) |
| 08:02.23 | KotCzarny | the real problem is there is no security on n900 |
| 08:03.00 | R0b0t1 | I noticed |
| 08:03.05 | R0b0t1 | much like everything, really |
| 08:03.30 | KotCzarny | but ecosystem for n900 is so small no hackers really bothered with it |
| 08:03.43 | KotCzarny | i mean crackers |
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| 08:04.37 | bencoh | you mean "bad guys" :) |
| 08:04.45 | KotCzarny | yeah, crackers |
| 08:04.56 | bencoh | but yeah, there is no "security" indeed |
| 08:06.32 | R0b0t1 | KotCzarny, I am not so sure. There were instances of all mirrors except the non-SSL ones being down, or something. |
| 08:07.07 | R0b0t1 | The Haskell package system is currently not secured very well. |
| 08:07.14 | R0b0t1 | One could make the argument nobody would care, |
| 08:07.30 | R0b0t1 | except for the fact haskell finds use on supercomputers that someone may want access to. |
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| 08:17.46 | bencoh | "except the non-SSL ones being down" ? |
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| 08:22.27 | kerio | i'm a big proponent of https everywhere |
| 08:22.35 | kerio | but it's not really needed for debian repos |
| 08:23.15 | KotCzarny | for https you need valid cert |
| 08:24.12 | kerio | which is free |
| 08:24.16 | kerio | and thus not a real issue |
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| 08:26.29 | bencoh | is startssl included in the cert bundle ? |
| 08:26.32 | bencoh | (on maemo) |
| 08:27.49 | kerio | i think it is |
| 08:28.53 | kerio | it is |
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| 08:29.09 | kerio | junethack.net verified by StartCom ltd. |
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| 14:47.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((there is no "security" indeed)) it's called QA testers, maemo-testing, promotion |
| 14:48.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a reason why you're not supposed to have extras-devel enabled unless you're capable and willing to evaluate security by your own |
| 14:49.04 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: regarding soldering on the N900 USB (& N9) ..with flux, solder braid, and thin soldering tip ... one should manage if they are careful? |
| 14:49.05 | KotCzarny | actually, if you create 10 fake accounts you can put malicious app in extras, right? |
| 14:49.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | admittedly that QA testers concept never *really* worked that great |
| 14:49.20 | Sicelo | yeah KotCzarny :p |
| 14:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: soldering the electric contacts is virtually impossible even with very thin tip, unless you remove some of the dang "roof" that covers the contacts/pins |
| 14:50.50 | Sicelo | yes, i intended to remove that |
| 14:51.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | solder paste and hot air should work |
| 14:52.36 | Sicelo | i can't get hold of someone with hot air station, and it's a bit over my budget to buy one (just for this one job). |
| 14:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | it comes in handy that there are no other heat sensitive (unshielded) components nearby (except camery) |
| 14:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | camera* |
| 14:53.02 | KotCzarny | camera is detachable |
| 14:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 14:53.25 | Sicelo | the cellphone shops around here just use soldering irons, and i trust myself better than them .. have seen some of their work :( |
| 14:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you simply wrap and shield it with a piece of alu foil |
| 14:53.48 | Sicelo | alu foil. ;) will use that |
| 14:54.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: one trick is: use thin wires, maybe 1 inch long or shorter |
| 14:54.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | removing camera module is feasible but actually risky |
| 14:54.53 | Sicelo | wires? where? |
| 14:55.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | between USB receptacle and PCB |
| 14:55.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5mm ideally |
| 14:55.16 | Sicelo | i won't remove camera .. tried it, and looks very difficult without the proper tool |
| 14:55.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 14:55.27 | Sicelo | hmm, that's an idea :) |
| 14:55.42 | bencoh | wires? |
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| 14:56.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, short 0.1mm dia varnish-isolated wires |
| 14:56.19 | Sicelo | but, when i place the connector back on the board, i wonder if the heat won't melt the insulation (and i won't know) |
| 14:57.15 | Sicelo | i'll try this whole job on a dead Xpressmusic Nokia, before I work on my 2 N900 and a friend's N9 |
| 14:57.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | use regular varnish-isolated wire, not heat-sensitive one used for wirewrap (so called soldering wire) |
| 14:57.32 | Sicelo | weekend job though |
| 14:58.03 | Sicelo | ok, will look for that wire tomorrow at the electronics shop (which are rather scarce and poorly stocked here) |
| 14:58.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | do NOT use wire with plastic (PVC) isolation |
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| 14:58.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather revamp an old transformer or sth like that |
| 14:58.57 | bencoh | I dont get it, what's the purpose of the wires here? |
| 14:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | to extend soldering points a 5mm away from USB receptacle |
| 14:59.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | the USB receptacle's pins are basically "under" the component |
| 15:00.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you can solder them when receptacle is not in place on PCB |
| 15:00.19 | bencoh | SMD? |
| 15:00.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you can move USB a 5mm out of place and solder the wires to the PCB pads |
| 15:00.38 | bencoh | SMT* |
| 15:00.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 15:01.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you move the USB into place, bending the 4mm wires, and fix it by soldering down the mech fixing posts |
| 15:01.33 | bencoh | I see |
| 15:01.52 | bencoh | cant you do it with solder paste and an iron? |
| 15:02.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, you can't heat the pins with soldering iron |
| 15:02.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you cut away parts of the "roof" that covers the pins |
| 15:02.51 | bencoh | sounds like a pain |
| 15:02.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | it is |
| 15:02.58 | Sicelo | it is |
| 15:03.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, actually cutting the roof is not as bad as it may sound |
| 15:04.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on your particular build of USB component |
| 15:04.13 | Sicelo | i definitely will cut it .. it doesn't really serve a major purpose as far as i could tell |
| 15:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, it's basically useless |
| 15:04.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc why it's there |
| 15:05.32 | Sicelo | it holds down the plastic piece haha, but who in their right mind will be pushing too hard into the receptacle anyway |
| 15:05.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | except of course when it holds the inner plastic of receptacle |
| 15:06.14 | Sicelo | the type i bought has two additional holding things ... so i'm reasonably safe |
| 15:06.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | in that case a drip of cyanoacrylate will do wonders |
| 15:06.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | make sure the glue doesn't cover the contacts inside jack |
| 15:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | then solder down the complete sides of the USB to PCB, to reinforce |
| 15:08.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | you want a 60W soldering iron (class) for that, and a not-too-pinpointed tip |
| 15:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | for soldering the pins you want a 15W class and quite thin tip |
| 15:10.43 | Sicelo | i'.. be able to get those easily :) thanks for the advice |
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| 16:33.35 | sixwheeledbeast | ~me had to do ~flatbattrecover today at about lunchtime, I think it maybe time for ~polarcell |
| 16:33.35 | infobot | moi? |
| 16:33.53 | sixwheeledbeast | facepalm |
| 16:36.01 | L29Ah | ~me |
| 16:36.06 | L29Ah | ~meh |
| 16:36.06 | infobot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy, or mgeary's favorite phrase |
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| 16:38.45 | bencoh | infobot: :D |
| 16:38.45 | infobot | d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure. |
| 16:38.57 | bencoh | >_< :D |
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| 16:43.46 | Pali | can somebody apply ##fix_your_connection to mavhk? |
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| 16:47.26 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05 see ^^^ |
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| 16:51.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: dorry? |
| 16:52.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, join/part trouble? (I got "hide join/part/nick") |
| 16:52.24 | Pali | see above connection spam from mavhk^^^ |
| 16:52.28 | Pali | yes |
| 16:52.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | please c&p one relecvant line |
| 16:52.54 | Pali | see log: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html |
| 16:53.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, this has no IPs |
| 16:53.30 | Pali | [18:51:03] --> mavhk (mavhc@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) has joined #maemo |
| 16:53.30 | Pali | [18:51:03] <-- mavhk (mavhc@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 16:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta |
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| 16:53.41 | Pali | again |
| 16:53.41 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ |
| 16:54.16 | *** mode/#maemo [+b *!*@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net] by DocScrutinizer05 |
| 16:55.36 | Pali | you forgot to add ##fix_your_connection |
| 16:56.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually dunno how to do that |
| 16:57.22 | Pali | maybe /mode +b $x:mavhk*$##fix_your_connection |
| 16:57.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | know what? |
| 16:58.01 | *** mode/#maemo [+o Pali] by DocScrutinizer05 |
| 16:58.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 16:59.26 | Pali | so I will try what happen :-) |
| 16:59.43 | *** mode/#maemo [+b $x mavhk*$##fix_your_connection] by Pali |
| 17:00.01 | bencoh | you should remove the first one I think |
| 17:00.16 | bencoh | what's the $x: ? |
| 17:00.22 | *** mode/#maemo [-b *!*@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net] by DocScrutinizer05 |
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| 17:10.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: I also need to lookup on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml each time |
| 17:11.15 | bencoh | :) |
| 17:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>This type takes a string parameter that is matched against a client's full nick!username@host#gecos. If a match is found, the user is banned.<< |
| 17:11.49 | Pali | bencoh: like grep -x |
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| 17:16.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway $x:mavhk*$##fix_your_connection doesn't look right |
| 17:23.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno about the second $ in there, the rest looks like matching to a gecos field containing #fix_your_connection |
| 17:25.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah! Channel forwards in bans |
| 17:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | forwards don't need $x: though, afaik |
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| 17:49.39 | freemangordon | does gTranslate still work for someone? As it stopped here, out of the sudden, google sends an answer wanting me to solve a CAPTCHA :D |
| 17:50.43 | bencoh | translate.google.com? works here (haven't tried on maemo though) |
| 17:51.23 | freemangordon | bencoh: there is maemo client, called gTranslate |
| 17:52.57 | bencoh | oh |
| 17:54.41 | bencoh | libespeak Oo |
| 17:55.56 | freemangordon | yeah, there is "Say" button :) |
| 17:57.02 | bencoh | "Please enter valid text!" |
| 17:57.41 | bencoh | that doesnt look too cool |
| 17:58.41 | freemangordon | start it from the terminal |
| 17:58.45 | freemangordon | /opt/ |
| 17:59.25 | freemangordon | /opt/gTranslate/bin/gTranslate |
| 17:59.41 | bencoh | yeah, dpkg -L ftw ;) |
| 17:59.58 | bencoh | okay, CAPTCHA |
| 18:00.04 | freemangordon | toldya |
| 18:00.33 | bencoh | that's sad |
| 18:00.59 | freemangordon | I solved it by using microb, no change, seems it needs cookies :( |
| 18:03.30 | bencoh | changing the user-agent maybe (haven't check) |
| 18:03.39 | bencoh | checked* |
| 18:03.57 | freemangordon | yeah, trying it |
| 18:06.06 | freemangordon | shit, qemu was recently updated, PC needs a reboot :(. bbl |
| 18:06.23 | bencoh | what ? |
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| 19:22.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<freemangordon> /opt/gTranslate/bin/gTranslate)) when will devels ever learn to symlink to their binary from somewhere inside $PATH, like /usr/bin or somesuch? |
| 19:31.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang windows 'devels' |
| 19:37.06 | L29Ah | when to symlink and when to change $PATH? |
| 19:37.10 | L29Ah | dang unix kludgeware |
| 19:37.35 | KotCzarny | always symlink |
| 19:37.42 | KotCzarny | unless you compile for normal os |
| 19:37.51 | KotCzarny | when just place binaries in /usr/bin |
| 19:37.51 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 19:38.53 | KotCzarny | *then |
| 19:39.39 | bencoh | :) |
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| 19:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | L29Ah: you don't change $PATH to add a single silly app |
| 19:59.51 | KotCzarny | its his system, he can do what he wants! |
| 19:59.53 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 20:02.06 | L29Ah | i have special entries for perl and gcc in $PATH |
| 20:02.08 | L29Ah | single silly apps |
| 20:02.42 | L29Ah | don't have an access to a non-gentoo machine to see how it goes in other desktop distros |
| 20:03.02 | KotCzarny | they are in /usr/bin |
| 20:03.07 | KotCzarny | on normal distros |
| 20:03.47 | L29Ah | oh all those dirs are gone in fact |
| 20:03.58 | L29Ah | seems like i have crappy leftovers to clean |
| 20:07.57 | L29Ah | yeah, lots of orphan stuff in /etc/env.d |
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| 21:16.44 | Kabouik | Guys, I'm trying to resurrect old good N900 which is in a reboot loop, using this guide http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Wirr/N900_The_Original_Perfect_Setup |
| 21:17.00 | Kabouik | Unfortunately http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo-dev-env-downloads/ is down, to download the flasher. Can someone provide me with a working link? |
| 21:17.24 | Kabouik | And same for the firmware itself |
| 21:21.34 | Kabouik | Anyone? |
| 21:23.10 | L29Ah | ~flasher |
| 21:23.19 | infobot | i guess flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 21:23.19 | L29Ah | ~0xffff |
| 21:23.19 | infobot | i heard 0xffff is https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 |
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| 21:24.20 | Kabouik | What's recommended between the default flasher and 0xffff? |
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| 21:30.23 | Pali | Kabouik: 0xffff does not support flashing emmc image (yet) |
| 21:30.39 | Kabouik | Alrirght, thanks |
| 21:30.48 | Kabouik | By the way, just found these links too: http://web.archive.org/web/20131117084237/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ |
| 21:30.53 | Kabouik | http://web.archive.org/web/20131117073524/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/ |
| 21:31.03 | Pali | and you should use last version of 0xffff (0.6.1) |
| 21:31.22 | Pali | older versions of 0xffff have problems with flashing |
| 21:31.30 | Kabouik | I will use the Nokia flasher I think |
| 21:32.00 | Kabouik | I don't remember anything about flashing the N900. What firmware should I download if I want to start from scratch? Is it the VANILLA or EMMC version? |
| 21:32.51 | Pali | if you have working rootfs do: 1. emmc 2. vanilla |
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| 21:33.17 | Kabouik | I don't know what I hawe working :D The N900 does not start, reboot loop |
| 21:33.20 | Pali | if you do not have working rootfs do: 1. vanilla 2. emmc 3. vanilla |
| 21:33.27 | Kabouik | And it's like that since years, so I forgot what was the issue |
| 21:33.41 | Pali | errr |
| 21:33.42 | Kabouik | Ok, so I need to download both anyway. Thanks! |
| 21:33.57 | Pali | there is COMBINED image and EMMC=VANILLA |
| 21:34.03 | Pali | so again: |
| 21:34.37 | Pali | not working rootfs: 1. COMBINED, 2. EMMC, 3. COMBINED |
| 21:34.58 | Pali | working rootfs: 1. EMMC, 2. COMBINED |
| 21:35.48 | Kabouik | I don't think in my situation there is any disadvantage into doing 1, 2 and 3. So even if my rootfs is perhaps working, it seems optimal to me |
| 21:36.28 | Pali | yes, this should cleanup format and program everything |
| 21:36.42 | Kabouik | Good, thanks |
| 21:36.52 | Kabouik | I can go to PR 1.3 directly, or shall I use 1.2 first? |
| 21:37.12 | Pali | PR1.3 |
| 21:37.15 | Kabouik | Thanks Pali |
| 21:37.23 | Pali | or PR1.3.1 better |
| 21:37.34 | Pali | ~pr1.3.1 |
| 21:37.35 | infobot | well, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 21:38.25 | Pali | Kabouik: PR1.3.1 is the last version |
| 21:38.43 | Pali | from year 2011 |
| 21:39.34 | Kabouik | Ah, I missed infobot's message! |
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| 21:59.07 | Kabouik | It seems I can't flash because "Suitable USB device not found, waiting.", and my N900 keeps rebooting |
| 22:05.17 | Kabouik | Nothing works :( |
| 22:17.31 | Sicelo | you're using the failsafe/foolproof method outlined there? do you have enough battery power? |
| 22:18.38 | Sicelo | try another cable or rear ports on pc |
| 22:18.47 | Kabouik | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=849980&postcount=20 Fixed it using that! |
| 22:19.03 | Kabouik | Flasher currently working |
| 22:19.25 | Sicelo | glad you got it solved :) |
| 22:19.30 | Kabouik | :] |
| 22:19.51 | Sicelo | hasn't flashed in over 4 years .. so no longer good at it |
| 22:20.18 | Kabouik | Approximately the same for me! |
| 22:21.29 | Sicelo | ;) |
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| 23:11.50 | Kabouik | It seems I can't install nano |
| 23:12.00 | Kabouik | I have enabled extras-devel and extras-testing |
| 23:12.11 | Kabouik | But nano requires libncursew5, which is not installable |
| 23:14.27 | L29Ah | vi ftw |
| 23:14.32 | L29Ah | ~repos |
| 23:14.33 | infobot | methinks repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
| 23:19.08 | Kabouik | This is the replacing repo for Maemo (base)? |
| 23:19.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik: |
| 23:19.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 23:19.54 | infobot | methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 23:20.24 | Kabouik | It's flashed already DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:20.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | fine :-) |
| 23:21.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | a hint: "the ideal setup" (or whatever the name) is a rather biased and non-official thing driven by users (mostly) during their first encounter with maemo |
| 23:22.04 | Kabouik | I'm not sure how to add these repos from infobot into the App manager, I don't know what they correspond to and I'm a bit dumb when it comes to this sort of things... I'd need name/url/distrib/user :p |
| 23:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | to me "the ideal setup" starts on a bare PR1.3.2+VANILLA replash, with CSSU-stable on top |
| 23:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, 1.3.1 |
| 23:23.06 | Kabouik | Yes that's what I thought, but I need a working N900 by Wednesday, possibly with a rather good selection of packages, and doing it myself would be very long because I remember it took me ages to get a full customized N900 back in the old days. I just hope the wiki here is up to date |
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| 23:23.12 | Kabouik | And I'll further customize over time |
| 23:23.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, customization is highly individual |
| 23:23.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe helps: |
| 23:24.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 23:24.02 | infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 23:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't update this stuff since ages, and I didn't add many "ordinary apps" there either |
| 23:25.24 | Kabouik | Crap, I forgot to resize /home. I thought about it, but it was not in the wiki so I figured "Well, maybe everything is optified with CSSU-thumb and it's not necessary anymore' |
| 23:25.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually nowadays everything *aought* to be optified |
| 23:27.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got quite a lot of "crap" installed on "rootfs" (aka /home opt-symlink) and I'm still not short on space on /opt, despite not resizing |
| 23:27.23 | Kabouik | Alright |
| 23:27.37 | Kabouik | Shall I skip my current "optimal" Wiki and switch to your jrtools? |
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| 23:28.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I had my share of "optimal setup" reading. Never found it particularly useful |
| 23:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's assuming a lot, and also quite a number of factually incorrect stuff in it, last I looked |
| 23:29.21 | Kabouik | Ok, I'll use your wiki instead then |
| 23:29.23 | Kabouik | But first |
| 23:29.37 | Kabouik | Wasn't there a wiki somewhere with all the repos that could be added just by clicking on links? |
| 23:29.56 | Kabouik | All repos seem to have changed, and cssu-thumb uses different repos I guess, so I'm a bit lost |
| 23:30.10 | Kabouik | And adding them from links would be easier and lest prone to errors than typing them with the hwkb |
| 23:30.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares furiously at the bold title "The OPTIMAL setup" |
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| 23:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos |
| 23:31.16 | infobot | i guess repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
| 23:31.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-repos |
| 23:31.22 | infobot | well, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 23:31.50 | Kabouik | I don't understand anything at this: |
| 23:31.51 | Kabouik | <infobot> i guess repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
| 23:31.53 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: are you anywhere near Wacken? |
| 23:31.54 | Kabouik | Why are there two urls? |
| 23:32.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be willing to update my on-click-URL on jrtools when somebody *with expoerience* provides the officially recommended new repo list |
| 23:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: Wacken? nope |
| 23:33.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik: one is base, the other updates |
| 23:33.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | they replace the dead Nokia repos |
| 23:33.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am going there, in a couple of hours, was hoping it is near your location so we can have a beer or so :) |
| 23:33.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: will you join cccamp15? |
| 23:34.27 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I guess no |
| 23:34.28 | Kabouik | And shall I add "fremantle free non-free" after the urls in App-manager too? Plus Distrib: "fremantle", and User:" free non-free"? |
| 23:35.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Nuremberg/Wacken/@51.7382519,10.7907225,7z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x479f57aeb5b61cd3:0xdd5daf85a98c21b7!1m2!1m1!1s0x47b3ea7e0a920bb1:0x4248963c6586900!3e0?hl=en-DE |
| 23:35.59 | freemangordon | yeah, no way |
| 23:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik: I don't know for sure about how to add in app manager. some is "distribution" iirc |
| 23:36.42 | Kabouik | Another way to add them then? I'm currently sshing the N900 (but don't have nano) |
| 23:37.03 | bencoh | funny how none of us use app manager for that kind of things :D |
| 23:37.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik: just compare to stock nokia repos and how they are set up. muarf is just a mirror with different URL |
| 23:38.12 | Kabouik | And what should I do with "./" and "./;;"? |
| 23:38.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | where once been downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ you now make that http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ |
| 23:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | the rest stays the same afaik |
| 23:39.31 | bencoh | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 23:39.38 | bencoh | wow, sorry. |
| 23:39.42 | bencoh | freaking bug :D |
| 23:39.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 23:40.27 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/443 (keyboard bug on macox/X11) |
| 23:40.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 23:40.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk |
| 23:41.11 | bencoh | anyway, yeah, the rest stays the same. just make sure you're not using https unless you added CACert to your rootca bundle |
| 23:42.52 | Kabouik | I surely haven't done anything like that :D |
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| 23:54.17 | Kabouik | Shall I install backupmenu before or after cssu? |