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04:39.46*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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06:28.07*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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14:35.33Sicelostryngs is back :)
14:36.16KotCzarnywho is stryngs?
14:37.31Siceloi'm not sure how to answer ... let's just say, another N900 hacker who prefers unconventional methods
14:37.41Sicelo17:09 < stryngs> and sometimes, my insane little hacks work.
14:39.47KotCzarny:)
14:39.58KotCzarnyisnt that a definition of 'hacks' ?
14:40.15KotCzarnyotherwise they are just bugfixes
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14:55.02Siceloprolly
14:56.10stryngsHi Sicelo =)
14:57.51Sicelo:)
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15:19.18Sicelothe stock media player can categorize music by genre (if you've got that in tags of course..). anyone knows which genres it actually "knows"?
15:24.05KotCzarnyis source of it available?
15:24.15KotCzarnyothwerise run strings on it
15:27.04bencohI guess that's in mafw trackerd source (or something like thatà
15:28.56Sicelohmm, looks like it properly supports the ID3v2 standard, including the ability to specify genre as a string, instead of numeric value
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16:56.02DocScrutinizer05musorgsky
16:57.39DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.org/packages/view/mussorgsky/
16:58.12DocScrutinizer05awesome name
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17:00.38Sicelolooks like that one doesn't actually change the tag? i use mid3v2 for that on N900
17:02.21KotCzarnyi just ignore tags, dir/file order ftw!
17:03.47KotCzarnyits nice when your collection has >99% correct tags, but if you have to fix thousands of files?
17:06.24Sicelolikes them :) takes time, yes
17:06.29Siceloymmv
17:07.06KotCzarnyfor example, put all your classical music in /classical/ dir
17:07.23KotCzarnythen if you want to play all classical tunes, just look for it
17:07.44KotCzarnyand if you prefer more detailed, just look for /composer name/
17:08.38KotCzarnyfile paths already contain most of the needed info
17:08.59Siceloi mostly don't have whole albums
17:09.03Siceloso no paths
17:09.44KotCzarnybut band name is in file name?
17:09.51KotCzarnyand files are in what dirs?
17:10.59Sicelonop
17:11.45Sicelothere's all types of names here
17:11.48KotCzarnyso your files are named jlkjlke.mp3 etc?
17:13.02Sicelobesides, ID3 tags look "nice" when the player shows them ... for example, i have my N900 use FM transmitter with my car, and the artist/song info is displayed on the head unit via RDS.
17:13.58KotCzarnythere are batch file renamers that can use tag info as a source
17:15.40Siceloon a regular player, no matter how nicely formatted your file name is, it will still show as one long (possibly truncated) line
17:15.55Sicelobut tag ... elegant
17:16.31KotCzarnysure, its nice, if you watch player display while playing
17:17.08Sicelohence, ymmv :)
17:17.10KotCzarnyand i bet you know most of the tracks info by ear anyway
17:19.45Siceloi'm sure you do realize that creating a particular playlist is also quicker with ID3 tag than without
17:20.14KotCzarnynope
17:20.27KotCzarnytrust me, i've done it multiple times
17:21.01KotCzarnyif your files have proper info in paths, regular fnmatch on them works very well
17:24.09Sicelook KotCzarny. i do have some "proper" filenames/paths, but for my use, tagging works much better. luckily, most software allows changing tag on multiple files at once as well .. i only use mid3v2 on N900 for that random file which i occasionally download/receive from friends
17:24.44KotCzarnyyes, that's the point, if your collection has >99% proper tags, its very useful
17:26.19Siceloand fixing them is just as easy as creating folders ... tagging is not difficult at all
17:27.23KotCzarnyalso, that assumes you only use id3 tags, other formats can be different
17:28.18Sicelo99% of my music is MP3 (for compatibility purposes)
17:28.25KotCzarnynope
17:28.32KotCzarnyflac/ape
17:28.37Sicelo?
17:28.39KotCzarnyis where it's at
17:28.41KotCzarnylossless
17:30.32Siceloi am aware of loss involved in MP3. i'm more than happy to use the lossless formats. but, we all know few devices out there can play them
17:30.44KotCzarnyn900 can
17:30.53KotCzarnylinux boxes can
17:30.55Sicelolol, of course
17:30.57Siceloso?
17:31.14KotCzarnyso it''s not few
17:31.52Sicelook. we're on different "pages"
17:32.44KotCzarnyno worries, i should've stop at ymmv
17:32.47KotCzarny:)
17:33.10Siceloif i visit a friend, it should be easy to play my music without asking him .. do you have conversion software?
17:33.22KotCzarnyyou have n900
17:33.26KotCzarnyhe has a radio
17:33.28KotCzarnydone?
17:33.28Siceloor, can we rather use radio as my N900 has FM transmitter..
17:33.30Sicelolol
17:33.42KotCzarnyor just connect minijack into n900
17:34.19KotCzarnyhmm, does nokia av cable work for audio without any tinkering?
17:34.31Siceloand how many people have one lying around?
17:34.46KotCzarnyevery n900 came with it
17:34.47Sicelothe AV cable needs you to short the video jack
17:35.03Sicelothat's all the tinkering it needs
17:35.06KotCzarnyis it safe?
17:35.25Siceloof course .. regular headphone shorts that too anyway
17:36.12KotCzarnygood to know
17:38.59Siceloi guess N900 'detects' video jack by the absence of that short, and existence of some resistance on that connector (75 ohm is it?)
17:39.49Sicelo.. meant, video cable
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18:23.11PaliDocScrutinizer05: Mussorgsky... this reminds me more computer games :-) because of his "hidden" music background
18:24.28KotCzarnyelite II: frontier
18:24.37DocScrutinizer05huh?
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18:24.51DocScrutinizer05Elite Dangerous!
18:25.32DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: (75R) maybe 50R
18:25.44DocScrutinizer05not sure
18:27.08DocScrutinizer05(<KotCzarny> hmm, does nokia av cable work for audio without any tinkering?) nope, you need to short the yellow cinch
18:27.42DocScrutinizer05ooh Sicelo beat me to it
18:33.12Siceloshoots DocScrutinizer05 down
18:33.16Sicelo:)
18:34.20Sicelobut the 'theory' regarding detecting AV cable ... holds water?
18:50.02DocScrutinizer05yes, absolutely
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