| 00:01.53 | ZetaR | Also, manually unpacking and copying the files is the recommended work around since 2010. |
| 00:02.35 | KotCzarny | one could say this package is unmaintained |
| 00:04.34 | ZetaR | BBL folks. I hope this doesn't take another 5 years to get sorted out. :P |
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| 00:04.57 | KotCzarny | find a maintainer |
| 00:05.04 | KotCzarny | otherwise no one would fix it |
| 00:05.10 | KotCzarny | (people are lazy) |
| 00:07.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ZetaR: (bug7707) yeah and Package importedSystem2010-01-02 05:23 UTC for claws |
| 00:08.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | the fix is to build it anew with fixed maemo-optify-deb |
| 00:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a package zombie from maemo pleozaen |
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| 00:19.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy, the last 4 or 5 comments on 7707 are so depressing |
| 00:20.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: could you check what version of maemo-optify-deb (or whatever the name) is used on autobuilder? |
| 00:22.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems Marius Vollmer https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7707#c17 dropped the ball |
| 00:22.37 | povbot | 04Bug 7707: maemo-optify-deb produces recursive symlink for plugins in derivative packages |
| 00:27.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually wtf is wrong with http://maemo.org/packages/view/conboy/ repo? check 0.7.0 vs 0.4.0 and "latest version" for fremantle |
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| 04:23.45 | endsormeans | Kotczarny: ping |
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| 05:26.40 | n7903 | hi |
| 05:26.43 | n7903 | peo |
| 05:26.46 | n7903 | people |
| 05:27.38 | n7903 | toc |
| 05:30.26 | Sicelo | ? |
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| 07:07.46 | Fiorenza | ~flashing |
| 07:07.46 | infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 07:14.55 | Fiorenza | Hi, cannot find the file maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz |
| 07:15.30 | Fiorenza | Where can I download it, please ? |
| 07:16.03 | Fiorenza | ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk |
| 07:16.11 | Fiorenza | ~tabletsdev |
| 07:16.11 | infobot | i guess tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads |
| 07:16.38 | KotCzarny | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ |
| 07:16.42 | KotCzarny | try this way |
| 07:17.06 | Fiorenza | it works, thanks ! |
| 07:17.29 | Fiorenza | Is there another O.S. I can install on my N900 ? |
| 07:17.39 | KotCzarny | depends |
| 07:17.40 | Fiorenza | Someone has tried Firefox OS ? |
| 07:17.46 | KotCzarny | do you need all functionalities? |
| 07:17.51 | KotCzarny | like phone etc |
| 07:18.18 | KotCzarny | if you only need wifi, then yes, there are choices |
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| 07:19.01 | KotCzarny | otherwise you are stuck to fremantle (and to some extent chroot based distros) |
| 07:19.02 | Fiorenza | I need to phone, whatsapp, calendar, address book |
| 07:23.44 | Fiorenza | How does flash-it-all.sh work ? I connect my N900 via USB to my Linux PC and then I run the script ? |
| 07:24.04 | KotCzarny | open it in some editor? maybe there are comments inside |
| 07:24.09 | KotCzarny | or some readme in the package |
| 07:24.19 | Fiorenza | Ok, I'm looking it. |
| 07:24.25 | KotCzarny | but i guess you just start it and read what it says |
| 07:24.55 | KotCzarny | it was meant to flash many n900 with as little user inteaction as possible |
| 07:27.52 | Fiorenza | Yes, I'm reading the script: it tell when I have to remove the battery and what should I do. |
| 07:29.06 | Fiorenza | Ok. Thanks. If I cannot resolve my whatsapp problem with Yappari, I'll have to buy a new phone, so I can use N900 as a tablet: so, what OS can I install ? |
| 07:29.24 | KotCzarny | for yappari then just update to newest version |
| 07:29.49 | KotCzarny | it was changing much lately |
| 07:30.15 | Fiorenza | I just did it, but I don't receive messages from other, while I can send. |
| 07:30.30 | KotCzarny | and you can write to yappari developer (either via talk.maemo.org page about your problem or here on irc 'ceene') |
| 07:30.43 | KotCzarny | what version do you have? |
| 07:30.51 | Fiorenza | It is strange, but I receive the messages of the group |
| 07:31.18 | Fiorenza | I have the latest version of Yappari: 2.0.15 |
| 07:31.50 | Fiorenza | But I installed a patch on my N900 to resolve the problem of Gmail: I cannot read messages any more |
| 07:32.42 | Fiorenza | So I wanted to reset N900 to have a clean behaviour...maybe it is the problem. |
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| 07:45.11 | bencoh | the latest yappari version might still be in -devel |
| 07:45.34 | bencoh | hm, nevermind, promoted in -testing |
| 07:46.54 | Fiorenza | It is 2.0.15 version ? |
| 07:48.20 | bencoh | looks like it is http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/ |
| 07:50.53 | Fiorenza | In fact. I think it is my N900 problem, probably I installed something wrong. For this I want to reflash it and install new version of Yappari. |
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| 08:16.14 | Fiorenza | ~flasher |
| 08:16.14 | infobot | rumour has it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
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| 08:25.09 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Re: no access to m.o, was a router glitch in the end BTW, just rebooted. |
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| 08:25.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:26.08 | sixwheeledbeast | jabber stopped working and then more ports stopped working slowly. |
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| 10:20.16 | ceene | Fiorenza: which patch is that for gmail that you installed? |
| 10:20.24 | ceene | i don't see how can that affect to yappari |
| 10:31.22 | ceene | ~repos |
| 10:31.22 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, repos is deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
| 10:31.55 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 10:31.55 | infobot | [maemo-repos] http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 10:33.42 | ceene | cool, thanks |
| 10:33.47 | ceene | i'm going to post there my mirror :) |
| 10:34.11 | KotCzarny | add proper comments |
| 10:35.06 | KotCzarny | hmm, someone duplicated muarf entry |
| 10:35.26 | KotCzarny | ahm, its for app manager |
| 10:35.32 | bencoh | "slow, but better than nothing" is it that slow ? |
| 10:35.46 | KotCzarny | bencoh: you've said it i think |
| 10:35.57 | bencoh | I said it was slow ? |
| 10:36.09 | KotCzarny | i mioght be wrong, my memory is flunky sometimes |
| 10:36.16 | bencoh | it's hosted behind FTTH at 100mbps |
| 10:36.35 | KotCzarny | no limiting? |
| 10:36.54 | bencoh | that should be way more than any n900 could ever need :p |
| 10:37.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:37.10 | KotCzarny | some people use wget -r etc |
| 10:37.13 | bencoh | no rate-limit no |
| 10:37.24 | KotCzarny | i can remove that comment |
| 10:37.59 | ceene | i'm editing it right now to add my repos |
| 10:38.03 | ceene | so i can remove that comment myself |
| 10:38.05 | bencoh | I don't really mind it, but I was just wondering whether someone experienced some issue |
| 10:38.28 | KotCzarny | ceene, just remove comment about being slow |
| 10:38.33 | KotCzarny | leave the rest |
| 10:38.38 | ceene | ok |
| 10:38.48 | KotCzarny | unless muarf gets the 'official' status |
| 10:39.34 | bencoh | it wont :) |
| 10:39.43 | ceene | http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#fremantle_repos_.28copy.26paste_sources.list.29 |
| 10:39.44 | ceene | there :) |
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| 10:42.12 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:43.09 | ceene | it's hosted on the university |
| 10:43.17 | ceene | i don't know which connection we have here |
| 10:43.25 | ceene | but i'm sure it's fast enough |
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| 10:46.00 | KotCzarny | i wouldnt mind if you guys added n8x0 repos too, at least for diablo |
| 10:46.44 | bencoh | unfortunately I never mirrored it |
| 10:47.06 | ceene | it was http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/? |
| 10:47.13 | ceene | i didn't mirror it neither :( |
| 10:47.48 | bencoh | wonder if there is some mirror out there |
| 10:48.09 | bencoh | maybe someone has an offline copy |
| 10:48.35 | ceene | if it appears i wouldn't mind hosting it too |
| 10:49.01 | bencoh | same |
| 10:51.58 | KotCzarny | i have a mirror of chinook and part of diablo |
| 10:52.15 | KotCzarny | mirrored it when before diablo came out |
| 10:53.07 | ceene | if you want to upload it i can set something up |
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| 11:07.40 | KotCzarny | will get around it later |
| 11:08.13 | KotCzarny | luckily its mostly unneeded stuff |
| 11:08.31 | KotCzarny | but having firmware images handy is ncie |
| 11:08.33 | KotCzarny | *nice |
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| 12:52.14 | shaggycat | Hi all |
| 12:52.29 | shaggycat | I have a problem: Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel. |
| 12:52.35 | shaggycat | 77.246.99.70 |
| 12:53.33 | shaggycat | Also I try to use tor for read forum, and also can't :( |
| 12:53.45 | shaggycat | Please delist my office IP address |
| 12:55.29 | bencoh | xes: ^ |
| 12:56.07 | warfare | I could do something about it but I don't have the right ssh keys on my work machine. |
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| 13:15.16 | sixwheeledbeast | that IP has been used for brute force attacks in the past according to search engines |
| 13:15.29 | KotCzarny | bad office, bad! |
| 13:17.36 | L29Ah | good tmo, good! |
| 13:25.44 | KotCzarny | yeah, google says this ip has some bad people behind |
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| 13:33.33 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 13:33.54 | KotCzarny | how come i see powertop reporting 1150mhz while i have max set to 500? |
| 13:34.36 | ShadowJK | powertop doesn't work with kernel power |
| 13:35.35 | bencoh | hmmm ... which part of doesnt work ? |
| 13:36.34 | ShadowJK | frequencies |
| 13:41.31 | KotCzarny | could be just cosmetic, because time_in_state shows ok |
| 13:41.42 | KotCzarny | though otoh it doesnt enter 125mhz, hmm |
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| 14:00.06 | KotCzarny | hmm, anyone got a clue why non mafw apps get interrupted on events like window change, blank/unblank etc? omp seems to be unaffected, anything else (panucci, oscp, mplayer) does |
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| 14:04.11 | KotCzarny | bah, even gstreamer |
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| 14:13.40 | ShadowJK | 125MHz is broken, iirc. |
| 14:14.00 | KotCzarny | for now it's as broken as 'not using it at all by cpufreq' |
| 14:15.04 | ShadowJK | 125 MHz has nevee been used by N900 |
| 14:15.35 | KotCzarny | i remember some people saying that they've used it. were they misinformed? |
| 14:15.53 | ShadowJK | They might've tried to use it, yeah |
| 14:16.03 | ShadowJK | I remember it said it's unstable |
| 14:17.18 | KotCzarny | for me it's just not entering it at all, even with setting scaling_min_freq ok. was it some patch in kernelpower? |
| 14:18.20 | ShadowJK | could be. freemangordon might know |
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| 14:24.00 | bencoh | KotCzarny: changing window doesnt stop/pause gst-launch here, but I can see a glitch |
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| 14:24.19 | bencoh | I think it does something with the video surface |
| 14:24.42 | KotCzarny | bencoh, i don't mean 'stop', but 'click' |
| 14:25.19 | bencoh | then I've experienced that as well under some conditions, yeah |
| 14:25.39 | KotCzarny | funny thing is that system media player is unaffected |
| 14:25.39 | bencoh | (and I still think it's related to the way surfaces are handled) |
| 14:25.56 | bencoh | hmm, iirc system media player pauses when switching window |
| 14:26.03 | KotCzarny | try omp |
| 14:26.15 | bencoh | oh, omp |
| 14:26.49 | bencoh | what about cutetube ? |
| 14:27.00 | KotCzarny | didnt try as i dont use it |
| 14:45.44 | KotCzarny | bencoh, it somehow boils down to find out what tricks mafw uses |
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| 16:19.03 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: renice? |
| 16:20.03 | L29Ah | i suggest cute gui animations are niced so a user won't scream that n900 is slow in blogs scaring nokia customers away |
| 16:20.58 | bencoh | what do you want to renice ? |
| 16:21.24 | KotCzarny | l29ah: nope |
| 16:21.33 | KotCzarny | it's something at system level, maybe pulseaudio |
| 16:21.41 | KotCzarny | renicing doesnt do a thing |
| 16:21.47 | KotCzarny | and its not cpu starvage |
| 16:21.58 | KotCzarny | as i can do some cpu intensive ops without glitches |
| 16:22.14 | L29Ah | rtprio? |
| 16:22.22 | KotCzarny | just do the test and run mplayer |
| 16:22.34 | KotCzarny | then just blank/unblank screen |
| 16:22.40 | KotCzarny | or switch windows |
| 16:23.30 | bencoh | KotCzarny: I dont think it's pulseaudio but a change in the video sink (probably the underlying surface) and audio/video sync is responsible for the audio "click" |
| 16:24.01 | KotCzarny | no, its just as if audio thread was blocked for some time |
| 16:24.11 | KotCzarny | sometime short, sometimes a bit longer |
| 16:24.21 | KotCzarny | but never happens for mafw (omp) |
| 16:39.51 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: I use 125Mhz with no noticeable issues |
| 16:40.33 | L29Ah | so? |
| 16:40.44 | sixwheeledbeast | 125Mhz-600Mhz SR |
| 16:40.51 | KotCzarny | swb: problem is i can set 125 as min, but kernel doesnt go there |
| 16:41.18 | sixwheeledbeast | avoid_frequencies setting in kp |
| 16:41.26 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 16:41.34 | KotCzarny | where to find it in /sys/ ? |
| 16:41.38 | sixwheeledbeast | 125000 is set as avoid you have to remove this |
| 16:41.50 | sixwheeledbeast | I find it |
| 16:41.54 | sixwheeledbeast | momplz |
| 16:42.59 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.07 | sixwheeledbeast | yep |
| 16:43.16 | KotCzarny | so, i just echo "" into the file |
| 16:43.21 | sixwheeledbeast | echo > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/avoid_frequencies |
| 16:43.40 | KotCzarny | we shall see |
| 16:44.27 | sixwheeledbeast | also I use with echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load |
| 16:44.50 | KotCzarny | that mean everything >0 ? |
| 16:44.54 | KotCzarny | or >=0 |
| 16:45.51 | sixwheeledbeast | blank, so removes content |
| 16:46.31 | KotCzarny | i mean, when set to 1, which priorities are ignored |
| 16:46.41 | sixwheeledbeast | oh |
| 16:48.03 | sixwheeledbeast | not sure I remember it being a "thing" for running 125 sucessfully. |
| 16:48.18 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 16:51.49 | bencoh | KotCzarny: it is "blocked" because it needs to be kept in sync with video |
| 16:52.05 | bencoh | afaiu |
| 16:52.19 | bencoh | I havent really investigated much into this |
| 16:52.34 | KotCzarny | bencoh, but omp somehow manages it |
| 16:54.39 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: " ignore_nice_load > When set to 0, all processes are counted towards the cpu utilization value. When set to 1, the processes that are run with a 'nice' value will not count " |
| 16:54.58 | KotCzarny | so >0 |
| 16:55.10 | KotCzarny | because by default you get prio0 |
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