| 00:37.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | teotwaki: hi! |
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| 02:41.49 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 03:31.44 | ^Fizz^ | hello! |
| 03:32.37 | ^Fizz^ | is there anyone that would be willing to answer some of ;y questions? |
| 03:32.42 | ^Fizz^ | my* |
| 03:32.57 | ^Fizz^ | i'm relatuvely new to this |
| 03:41.12 | ^Fizz^ | ok i know the community is pretty much dead, but i really find the concept of maemo interesting |
| 03:41.39 | ^Fizz^ | so is there no one to bother with an enthousiastic programmer? |
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| 03:50.58 | totalizator | ahaha re we? dead? yikes! |
| 04:29.35 | endso | crap nobody told me...wait a sec. [checks pulse] |
| 04:30.36 | endso | That is not the way to win new friends and influence people here man...Our death has been greatly exagerated |
| 04:33.25 | endso | what is this "concept" of maemo you speak of? What we live and breathe is not an abstract... |
| 04:34.06 | endso | Do you have a NIT? |
| 04:34.59 | endso | ~N.I.T. |
| 04:35.30 | endso | what is a N.I.T. infobot? |
| 04:35.59 | endso | infobot? |
| 04:36.42 | endso | ~nit |
| 04:36.42 | infobot | i heard nit is Nokia Internet Tablet |
| 04:36.52 | endso | ah there we go |
| 04:38.02 | endso | he/she/it doesn't care for the caps or perhaps it is the periods |
| 04:39.34 | endso | or both |
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| 04:44.36 | endso | ~is maemo dead? |
| 04:45.10 | endso | infobot? |
| 04:45.40 | endso | ~maemo |
| 04:46.16 | endso | hm won't answer those kind of queries |
| 04:46.23 | KotCzarny | people today, asking questions in the middle of the night and expecting answers in 30s |
| 04:46.41 | endso | heheheehhee |
| 04:46.43 | KotCzarny | it's an irc, you ask a question and wait. sometimes days, sometimes weeks |
| 04:46.54 | endso | shouldn't you be asleep gaffer? |
| 04:47.05 | endso | :D |
| 04:47.15 | endso | what time is it there Kot |
| 04:47.26 | KotCzarny | 6:47 (am) |
| 04:47.44 | endso | ah...just waking up then |
| 04:48.54 | endso | y'know I was thinking ...if gtkgep is such a pita...is there another fx processor which would suffice... |
| 04:49.02 | KotCzarny | and i need someone who dabbled with alsa on n8x0 |
| 04:49.27 | KotCzarny | because it's almost working, ie. recording and playing now |
| 04:49.42 | KotCzarny | but i get trash on the output |
| 04:50.57 | KotCzarny | mostly because i get trash from the mic tho |
| 04:51.13 | KotCzarny | it works fine with arecord tho |
| 04:51.26 | KotCzarny | hmm. |
| 04:51.48 | KotCzarny | maybe i should just pipe-exec it into gtkgep |
| 04:56.07 | endso | has anyone looked at the old fx processors like freqtweak or glame or ecamegapedal or LOI (lack of interest) or creox or Jesusonic (love Jesusonic) or ELE (excellent low latency effects) ...there are alot of potential candidates.. |
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| 04:59.01 | endso | 10pm here ...yesterday...I think... your time Kot ...crap that's weird when I think about it...wired on Joe ...wooo! |
| 04:59.20 | KotCzarny | you need something that works with alsa |
| 05:00.19 | KotCzarny | but gtkgep is not bad, and can be easily enhanced (plugins) |
| 05:00.20 | endso | ah...it's gotta be alsa for the n8x0 then..eh? |
| 05:01.00 | KotCzarny | yeah, oss emulation is missing (even after loading the module) |
| 05:01.13 | endso | yeah ..tell me about it...love the pluginds on gtkgep...love it on antiX |
| 05:01.29 | endso | bloody oss.. |
| 05:01.40 | endso | pain in the oss |
| 05:02.12 | KotCzarny | but as i said, it is close to working state, just need fixing some obscure bug that i missed apparently |
| 05:03.00 | endso | ah... |
| 05:03.03 | endso | hm.. |
| 05:04.25 | endso | concerning alsa and it's necessity and fitting in the dynamic of need for devices Jesusonic would be a very good potential candidate .. |
| 05:04.29 | endso | https://web.archive.org/web/20140616195701/http://www.cockos.com/jesusonic/ |
| 05:04.46 | endso | Linux (2.4+, 2.6 recommended x86 only): Jesusonic 0.991 linux (x86) tarball (1.1MB, Jul 15 2005) |
| 05:04.46 | endso | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.29 | KotCzarny | cool, but it looks like ncurses app (and mind you, n800 is a bit lacking in this matter) |
| 05:05.51 | KotCzarny | though it could be fixed to some extent by cursor pad |
| 05:07.07 | KotCzarny | or via xvkbd |
| 05:07.26 | KotCzarny | also, tarbal is a binary |
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| 05:15.23 | endso | ah..right.. |
| 05:15.58 | endso | too busy caught in the headlights playing with it... |
| 05:16.07 | KotCzarny | no worries |
| 05:17.48 | endso | obscure bug you say.. |
| 05:18.04 | endso | "said" rather... |
| 05:18.18 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 05:18.29 | KotCzarny | mind you, code works on pc |
| 05:18.46 | KotCzarny | it's just something n8x0 specific |
| 05:29.25 | endso | hm...if Jesusonic is out [too bad... love it] ...what about ELE? http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mslutsky/elepage/index.html |
| 05:30.54 | KotCzarny | oss |
| 05:34.20 | endso | argh |
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| 05:39.57 | endso | GLAME? ...they got 'er for squeeze armel even...glancing at it's deps it seems ok....https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/glame/download |
| 05:40.51 | KotCzarny | you can try installing it |
| 05:41.05 | KotCzarny | if no libs are missing, it might work without any changes |
| 05:41.18 | KotCzarny | is ladspa available for n8x0 ? |
| 05:44.04 | endso | ladspa-sdk (v. 1.1-6maemo1) for diablo extras-devel |
| 05:44.24 | KotCzarny | umkay, it's recommended, so should work without, but ladspa has bazillion of plugins |
| 05:44.31 | KotCzarny | ie. recommended |
| 05:45.21 | KotCzarny | weird, no one wrote sox gui for realtime effects? |
| 05:50.00 | KotCzarny | darn it. sourceforge is still on a fritz |
| 05:51.22 | KotCzarny | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/jack-rack |
| 05:51.33 | KotCzarny | this one looks like what you want |
| 05:52.37 | KotCzarny | maybe squeeze binary will work |
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| 06:10.31 | endso | I dismissed jack-rack as being too way out in req.ments |
| 06:10.44 | KotCzarny | is it? |
| 06:10.51 | endso | You think jack-rack is doable? |
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| 06:17.30 | endso | I never even considered anything newer than 2008-ish...figuring it would start getting too needy in "new" dependecies that the n8x0 couldn't handle...so I just dismissed jack-rack out of hand.. |
| 06:18.01 | endso | hm..they got Pyjack http://sourceforge.net/projects/py-jack/ |
| 06:18.08 | endso | Brother of Kojak |
| 06:18.11 | endso | :D |
| 06:19.05 | endso | I never considered ladspa at all...I didn't know it was available for diablo |
| 06:20.17 | KotCzarny | as you've said, ladspa-sdk is available |
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| 06:25.13 | endso | got some looky-looing to do. |
| 06:29.38 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 06:29.40 | KotCzarny | it built |
| 06:29.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:30.12 | endso | wha? |
| 06:30.21 | KotCzarny | jack-rack in scratchbox |
| 06:30.32 | endso | wha-wha? |
| 06:30.54 | endso | ok ...I'm installing it |
| 06:30.59 | endso | hehehehehe |
| 06:31.11 | KotCzarny | no, it needs some source patching, but it built |
| 06:31.20 | endso | 'splosion! |
| 06:31.28 | endso | ah |
| 06:31.34 | KotCzarny | going to test on n800 |
| 06:32.52 | endso | Fired one of mine up... |
| 06:38.43 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 06:38.49 | KotCzarny | jackd needs mmap for alsa |
| 06:39.23 | KotCzarny | let's see if it can be persuaded to run anyway |
| 06:46.07 | endso | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=12267&highlight=JACK+Audio+Connection+Kit |
| 06:46.31 | KotCzarny | ALSA lib pcm.c:2105:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_mmap_emul.so |
| 06:46.34 | KotCzarny | doh. |
| 06:46.41 | KotCzarny | castrated everywhere |
| 06:46.50 | endso | some have attempted this path......still reading...may be something of value here |
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| 06:59.03 | endso | bloody hell..of course there is jack for fremantle... |
| 06:59.09 | endso | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle-1.2/free/j/jack-audio-connection-kit/ |
| 06:59.47 | KotCzarny | there is also jackd for diablo, but the bloody driver doesnt support mmap that jackd requires |
| 07:01.08 | endso | yup |
| 07:01.23 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 07:01.38 | KotCzarny | maybe i should check the jackd on usb audio |
| 07:02.32 | endso | there's an idea |
| 07:02.53 | endso | hm...https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/alsa-plugins-maemo/sources/spec |
| 07:03.41 | endso | pertaining to jack |
| 07:04.49 | endso | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.maemo.extras-cauldron.builds/13710 |
| 07:05.07 | endso | build failed in 2010 on fremantle |
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| 07:07.56 | endso | https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/alsa-plugins/alsa-plugins.spec?rev=39115bea0c0c31ae214570b040b04f50 |
| 07:08.19 | endso | wtf ...jack running on 770? |
| 07:08.28 | KotCzarny | sure, why not |
| 07:09.14 | endso | it should on the n8x0 and n900 then |
| 07:09.33 | KotCzarny | not really, audio driver is different |
| 07:10.03 | endso | well...there'll be a few 770 users dancing... |
| 07:10.19 | KotCzarny | i don't own 770, unfortunatelly |
| 07:11.31 | endso | Sadly I retired mine to the antiquities case...and just throw a battery in to keep her going now..got too many n8x0's and n900's to take care of and a neo coming.. |
| 07:11.56 | KotCzarny | is neo done already? |
| 07:12.19 | endso | not yet..but I'm ready for it:D |
| 07:14.43 | endso | should be able to do a wholllleee lot more with the neo that we can't with what we got now. |
| 07:22.48 | KotCzarny | wow, stupid me, snd_usb_audio wasnt' loaded.. |
| 07:23.08 | KotCzarny | jackd started, but device hung :) |
| 07:24.29 | endso | ah... |
| 07:24.42 | endso | hmmm...http://www.filewatcher.com/d/Ubuntu/amd64/libs/libasound2-plugins_1.0.15-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb.116606.html |
| 07:25.06 | KotCzarny | 1/ dont try anything not for armel |
| 07:25.13 | KotCzarny | 2/ diablo has alsa 1.0.14 |
| 07:26.23 | endso | /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-maemo.gz .....2nd window down or 3rd down |
| 07:27.13 | KotCzarny | i'm missing that file |
| 07:27.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:28.07 | KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/alsa-dsp/ |
| 07:28.08 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 07:31.19 | KotCzarny | nice and dandy, but where the heck is: include/lldsp/lldsp.h:33:31: dsp/audio_dsptask.h: No such file or directory |
| 07:34.29 | KotCzarny | bencoh: ping |
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| 07:44.12 | endso | yawning too much...been up since 5am...and it's almost 1am here now...need to hit the snort-fort...back with coffee mug in hand in the morning... |
| 07:44.21 | KotCzarny | yeah, nite nite |
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| 07:44.53 | KotCzarny | pali: maybe perchance you know where to get audio_dsptask.h ? |
| 07:45.11 | Pali | google? |
| 07:45.15 | KotCzarny | unhelpful |
| 07:45.33 | Pali | why do you need it? |
| 07:45.43 | KotCzarny | to build: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/alsa-dsp/ |
| 07:45.45 | Pali | or who depens on it? |
| 07:45.54 | KotCzarny | n8x0 audio driver with mmap |
| 07:46.54 | Pali | no idea |
| 07:47.08 | Pali | try to find out which symbols or defines you need from that file |
| 07:47.15 | Pali | and try to guess what it can be... |
| 07:47.30 | KotCzarny | most likely blackmagic for the dsp programming |
| 07:50.55 | Pali | KotCzarny: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1.2/non-free/o/osso-dsp-modules-rx-44/osso-dsp-headers-rx-44_2008.34.1_all.deb |
| 07:51.02 | Pali | ./usr/include/dsp/audio_dsptask.h |
| 07:51.05 | KotCzarny | cool |
| 07:51.08 | KotCzarny | tyvm |
| 07:51.42 | Pali | DSP headers for OSSO Multimedia framework (RX-44 hardware). |
| 07:52.10 | KotCzarny | now i have to fix compilation errors |
| 07:52.12 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 07:54.50 | Pali | KotCzarny: here is my search result: http://pastebin.com/VRZWeXZd |
| 07:56.06 | KotCzarny | can you look for dsp_stream_t symbol in headers? |
| 07:56.31 | Pali | I do not have indexed headers files... |
| 07:56.46 | Pali | just name of packages |
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| 08:28.58 | KotCzarny | hmm, how can i checkout older files from svn? |
| 08:29.54 | KotCzarny | nvm, repo doesn't have anything earlier |
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| 12:04.24 | Santak | yo |
| 12:30.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ashley: are you the wikimedia wizard? would you have some spare time to /join irc.hackint.org #camp-wiki and help out those guys with plugins on https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/wiki/ ? |
| 12:30.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | (use SSL!) |
| 12:32.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | [Info] Looking for server irc.hackint.org (port 9999)... [SSL Connection Warning] The SSL certificate for the server irc.hackint.org (port 9999) failed the authenticity check. |
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| 12:46.58 | DerHat | hi, doc |
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| 14:09.18 | ashley | DocScrutinizer05: aye, I'm the local (somewhat busy, but also lazy) MediaWiki guru (MediaWiki being the software and Wikimedia being the instance that hosts Wikipedia and related projects); I'll see what I can do |
| 14:09.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | great! :-) |
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| 15:01.23 | Alphadog | Hi. I have a question. I installed latest maemo testing on my n900. It seems that the original nokia repositories are no longer available, only the additional comunity repos work. It seems that the community repos don't contai everything. Is there an alternative. |
| 15:01.36 | KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos |
| 15:01.36 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories |
| 15:02.50 | Alphadog | I also had problems with facebook related stuff. I red i a forum I must apt-get purge the packages, but I can no longer find and install them. |
| 15:03.05 | KotCzarny | facebook changed a bit since 2009 |
| 15:04.10 | Alphadog | I suppose it changed even a lot, but had no info about the plugin |
| 15:05.57 | Alphadog | Thanks KotCzarny |
| 15:07.17 | Alphadog | So is there a way to integrate in similar way facebook with my n900, like it was before. |
| 15:07.42 | KotCzarny | i'm not the best person to answer because i've never used fb |
| 15:08.40 | Alphadog | I actually think I must stop using it :-) |
| 15:08.46 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 15:11.42 | Alphadog | so even if i restore the plugin, it seems it wont work, and i cannot use it. |
| 15:11.56 | endso | ggggooooddd morningggg Topeka!!! |
| 15:12.27 | endso | love Topeka....the name anyway |
| 15:12.40 | Alphadog | I have the phone since yesterday. Can you recommend me default apps to use for video, audio, etc... |
| 15:12.52 | endso | rolls off the tongue with the morning coffee in hand.. |
| 15:13.11 | endso | ttytter |
| 15:13.23 | KotCzarny | alphadog: do you prefer media libraries or directory based player? |
| 15:13.36 | L29Ah | :D |
| 15:13.39 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 15:14.00 | Alphadog | I use debian on my pc for the last 5 yrs, so I am aware about mplayer xine amarok audacious .... |
| 15:14.14 | KotCzarny | for video, install open media player |
| 15:14.22 | KotCzarny | it's a drop in system's replacement |
| 15:14.49 | endso | social media changes so fast it is difficult for most devices to keep up.. |
| 15:15.00 | KotCzarny | endso: irc stays the same |
| 15:15.05 | endso | ttytter instead of twitter is pretty rock solid |
| 15:15.07 | KotCzarny | 20 years, still works |
| 15:15.22 | endso | weeelllll irc is irc |
| 15:16.08 | endso | it's pretty rock solid |
| 15:16.47 | KotCzarny | endso, as for the whole n8x0 audio thing, i've managed to compile alsa 1.0.27.2 which has mmap emulation |
| 15:17.02 | KotCzarny | still, jackd barfs that it cannot change some parameters |
| 15:17.22 | endso | prob with modern social media apps like fb and it's ilk is they must pander to the most jaded...which means they gotta switch things up very very often |
| 15:18.22 | endso | whazza? mmap emulation on the n8x0? ...ah jack still is jack'd.. |
| 15:18.46 | endso | weird |
| 15:19.11 | KotCzarny | pity the guy who wrote alternative n8x0 audio driver is missing |
| 15:20.41 | endso | why "have" jackd-sdk if it can't be put to use? ...I mean what was written using it? I never knew jackd-sdk even existed before yesterday... |
| 15:21.00 | KotCzarny | maybe someone just compiled it and left |
| 15:21.03 | KotCzarny | without checking |
| 15:21.15 | KotCzarny | or maybe it can be used as a virtual sound card |
| 15:21.30 | endso | I'm gonna look at it some... |
| 15:24.08 | KotCzarny | it's a pity that all those workarounds can and will increase latency |
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| 15:25.22 | KotCzarny | whoa, nice thunderstorm is coming |
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| 15:28.07 | endso | http://www.ladspa.org/ladspa_sdk/ |
| 15:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<KotCzarny> ~maemo-repos)) |
| 15:31.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos |
| 15:31.54 | infobot | repos is probably deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./;; deb http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./ |
| 15:32.22 | KotCzarny | doc, you are missing extras |
| 15:34.10 | KotCzarny | also, you are missing comments |
| 15:34.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm missing nothing |
| 15:34.33 | KotCzarny | for new users you do |
| 15:34.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | those are replacements for the Nokia repos |
| 15:35.03 | KotCzarny | ie. it's almost unusable to someone that doesnt know anything about nokia, repos, extras etc |
| 15:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, somebody who doesn't know about repos is pretty much lost anyway |
| 15:35.48 | KotCzarny | people who come for help shouldn't be left lost |
| 15:35.56 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:36.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I see muarf's repos are in wiki list of repos, though cvommented out |
| 15:36.55 | KotCzarny | yes, but to uncomment is to read the comment and remove # |
| 15:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually somebody[TM] should build a maemo-extras package to fix the repo list |
| 15:37.30 | KotCzarny | yeah, 6 years and no repos wiki page |
| 15:37.38 | KotCzarny | now you want someone to prepare a package? |
| 15:38.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't want anything |
| 15:38.29 | KotCzarny | it was rhetorical |
| 15:38.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | no time for rhetorics |
| 15:39.09 | KotCzarny | yeah, mind looking at my alsa code? 140 lines, but glitching and i cant see why |
| 15:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no time for that either |
| 15:39.23 | KotCzarny | bah |
| 15:39.39 | KotCzarny | do you know anyone that i can ask? |
| 15:39.43 | KotCzarny | and has time |
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| 15:44.49 | Alphadog | Muarf repos seems ok |
| 15:45.03 | Alphadog | I have what i needed |
| 15:45.10 | KotCzarny | they are a copy of nokia ones |
| 15:45.20 | KotCzarny | but it's a private mirror |
| 15:45.32 | Alphadog | 10x |
| 15:45.33 | KotCzarny | there were others, but went down |
| 15:45.38 | L29Ah | 18:37:30]<KotCzarny> yeah, 6 years and no repos wiki page |
| 15:45.38 | L29Ah | https://wiki.maemo.org/Repository |
| 15:45.50 | KotCzarny | l29ah: check the edits history |
| 15:45.56 | L29Ah | fix it |
| 15:46.00 | KotCzarny | i did |
| 15:46.11 | KotCzarny | otherwise repo list wouldnt be there |
| 16:05.16 | Pali | https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror |
| 16:06.55 | KotCzarny | instructions there have nokia.com |
| 16:07.47 | KotCzarny | is it safe to enable deb http://repository.maemo.org/community/ ? |
| 16:08.13 | Pali | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
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| 16:12.53 | KotCzarny | frickin' consumer dsl |
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| 18:08.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://conf.kde.org/en/akademy2015/public/events/198 |
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| 19:18.43 | endso | hmm...hey Kot: according to this...http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8333&highlight=external+microphone+n810 the n95 headset/microphone works grand on the n800 ..ie such as this: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Black-Red-Silicone-Earbuds-In-Ear-Earphone-w-Microphone-for-Nokia-N95-/311274916964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48796e4c64 |
| 19:19.28 | endso | If this is the case why the necessity to route things through a usb audio card? |
| 19:20.29 | KotCzarny | mic is not an issue when your card can record with 8khz max |
| 19:21.23 | endso | ah..yeah forgot about that horrid horrid 8khz max |
| 19:21.55 | KotCzarny | works fine for voice and probably many instruments |
| 19:22.38 | endso | duh :D Been reading too long ...looking down too many alleys...brain is curdling... |
| 19:23.38 | KotCzarny | i'm hacking at alsa recording on n8x0, i think i need to set proper params to get usable output |
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| 20:00.13 | KotCzarny | hrm, almost works ok |
| 20:03.44 | endso | with that usb audio card? |
| 20:03.56 | KotCzarny | nope, n8x0 only |
| 20:05.22 | endso | are you outing anything via headphone port? you'll get horrible proximity crap otherwise..onboard mic and speakers are just too close.. |
| 20:05.40 | KotCzarny | for testing it's ok |
| 20:06.47 | endso | ah...still...it'd be terrible...not to mention you may set one or the other or both on fire...you must have it turned waaaaaayyyyy down low |
| 20:07.13 | KotCzarny | no worries, it's only for testing |
| 20:08.44 | KotCzarny | if you want i can make a tarball, my head starts hurting when i think of alsa on n8x0 |
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| 20:15.14 | endso | sure thing...I'll play with a tarball of it...test it some ..so does the usb audio card work with it? I'll grab one if it does ...or is a headphone / microphone jack adequate enough?... either way I am going shopping :D |
| 20:15.51 | KotCzarny | jack is adequate, if i get things right it should work similar as on n900 |
| 20:16.38 | endso | right. Well this is grand ..gtkgep on the n8x0 and n900 |
| 20:17.59 | endso | pity ladspa seems to be a brain tumour waiting to happen for whoever looks at it.. :D |
| 20:18.15 | KotCzarny | nah, ladspa is just a plugin system |
| 20:18.24 | KotCzarny | you can build your app around it |
| 20:19.02 | KotCzarny | https://transfer.sh/Jc5Ly/gtkgep-n8x0-alsa.tar.gz unpack to /opt/ |
| 20:19.32 | KotCzarny | you can make /opt a symlink to place where you can exec things (ext2/3, not vfat though) |
| 20:23.46 | KotCzarny | mind you, sound is still broken (ringing and cracks), also sometimes device hangs during running/stopping |
| 20:24.09 | KotCzarny | nice thing about gtkgep is that you can add/remove/configure plugins on the fly |
| 20:24.36 | endso | ah crap....hm....then ...wouldn't ...https://web.archive.org/web/20120118012634/http://www.eca.cx/ecamegapedal/ be an easier effects processor since the need for older qt and ecasound armel (which is plentiful in old and new versions) be a better possibility |
| 20:25.11 | KotCzarny | sure, as long it uses alsa, and sets recording right |
| 20:25.13 | endso | sound is broken in n8x0 gtkgep? |
| 20:25.31 | KotCzarny | a bit, but try it, almost works |
| 20:25.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:28.28 | endso | I'll do just that...I am going to wait til I have a proper mic / headphone jack so I get decent separation and isolation 'tween the two...then I know any probs I get won't be proximity related... |
| 20:35.45 | KotCzarny | nah, the problem right now is getting recording side params right, n8x0 driver is very picky |
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| 20:44.20 | endso | recording parameters where? Are you speaking of in gtkgep itself or in device... |
| 20:44.37 | endso | I'd like to know where I should tinker .. |
| 20:44.37 | KotCzarny | in gtkgep, but hardcoded for now |
| 20:44.45 | endso | ah.. |
| 20:57.45 | endso | hm...on the topic ...you mentioned ...sox ..doesn't have a gui ...would that be an easier option considering we already have sox? |
| 20:58.56 | KotCzarny | check if you can get it to record/process/play in the same time, using cmd line |
| 20:59.04 | KotCzarny | examples should be on the net |
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| 21:11.58 | endso | naw it can do alot ...but it is vague concerning real-time effects processing...it seems there isn't any examples of continous runnning. There is recording...processing...playing...not simultaneous or even slightly delayed simul. real-time. It looks to be a fab program in itself...but not for "right now" usage so-to-speak. |
| 21:12.29 | KotCzarny | i remember using it as rt effect (kind of) |
| 21:14.00 | KotCzarny | you just pipe it |
| 21:16.21 | endso | If that's the case ..all it needs is a gui...since stopping to figure out the input txt at the command prompt you want to use to change the output kills any on-the-fly manipulation.. |
| 21:16.53 | KotCzarny | sure, but first you have to check if it works as expected on n8x0 |
| 21:17.07 | endso | hehe ..yeah... |
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