| 14:50.44 | *** join/#maemo infobot (ibot@69-58-76-73.ut.vivintwireless.net) |
| 14:50.44 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 14:50.48 | KotCzarny | and as i remember from tmo, reflash doesnt help |
| 14:50.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 14:50.50 | infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 14:50.51 | auenf | you dont need a sim to make certain calls, but if the modem doesnt have an imei you probably cant call 112 :P |
| 14:51.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: when reflash doesn't help, you're suffering the broken modem solder points issue and have a defect device |
| 14:51.41 | kaizerslawten | infobot: Go test this |
| 14:52.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: it's a bot |
| 14:52.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell kaizerslawten about flashing |
| 14:52.48 | kaizerslawten | I'm Newbie in IRC |
| 14:53.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I tell you :-) |
| 14:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got a linux PC? |
| 14:54.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | if yes, I recommend my http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz |
| 14:54.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | very convenient |
| 14:56.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | remove any SIM during flashing! |
| 14:57.10 | KotCzarny | hmm, since when its a requirement? |
| 14:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | we seen broken SIM throwing sticks at modem so it didn't come up |
| 14:57.59 | kaizerslawten | DocScrutinizer05: Have a PC Linux |
| 14:58.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: then do what infobot suggested :-) |
| 14:58.17 | kaizerslawten | Debian Linux |
| 14:58.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's self explanatory |
| 14:58.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh |
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| 15:04.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | in a shell of course :-) |
| 15:05.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least the last part. For first two parts you can use Ark, Konqueror, kget/wget whatever you like |
| 15:08.36 | chem|st | kaizerslawten: are you from where your name suggests you are? |
| 15:12.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | auenf: you can't call 112 without SIM anymore, in Germany (Europe?) |
| 15:13.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | got disabled allegedly due to constant abuse |
| 15:13.14 | kaizerslawten | I'm from Brazil |
| 15:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | but no matter what they did on network, they can't delete your IMEI form modem |
| 15:14.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | (well, *usually*. Of course there are ways...) |
| 15:15.06 | kaizerslawten | He announce in National TV, that non-homologate IMEIs don't in Brazil |
| 15:15.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually modem manufs invest a great deal of effort into making sure _nobody_ can alter/delete the modem IMEI |
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| 15:16.30 | KotCzarny | they can block imei, but not modify it remotely |
| 15:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | IMEI is like vehicle identification number /VIN/ |
| 15:16.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: exactly |
| 15:16.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | block == not allow the modem to register to network |
| 15:20.27 | kaizerslawten | exactly |
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| 15:24.24 | kaizerslawten | Thank you all for support! |
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| 15:32.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: please let me know if yu have any problems with http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz |
| 15:34.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no matter which ones |
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| 20:30.12 | RzR | anyone from greece beside qwazix ? |
| 20:30.46 | qwazix | guess not, everyone is glued to the tv now |
| 20:31.18 | RzR | the newest one :) |
| 20:31.39 | RzR | btw did china reacted to the situation ? |
| 20:32.00 | RzR | they're owning athen's port doesnt they ? |
| 20:32.05 | KotCzarny | O.o |
| 20:32.51 | qwazix | not completely, but yeah |
| 20:33.05 | KotCzarny | what are you talking about? |
| 20:33.08 | qwazix | they didn't say anything meaningful afail |
| 20:33.12 | RzR | there is an ongoing similar story in france |
| 20:33.13 | qwazix | k* |
| 20:33.34 | RzR | KotCzarny, we relocated a conversation about greece here ;) |
| 20:33.49 | qwazix | RzR what? |
| 20:33.53 | RzR | and qwazix deserve moral support |
| 20:34.22 | RzR | qwazix, toulouse's airport is about to be sold to some china company |
| 20:34.25 | qwazix | it's good to chat with someone outside |
| 20:34.33 | qwazix | :nod: |
| 20:34.57 | RzR | I dont know details of the deal but it is generating some buzz too |
| 20:35.25 | RzR | especialy when buyer is impossible to be located |
| 20:35.55 | qwazix | the piraeus deal caused some buzz but it died down quickly. They seem to be getting along |
| 20:37.19 | RzR | what about other currency in the country ? |
| 20:37.45 | qwazix | that's being introduced as an idea every day and then denied the next |
| 20:38.08 | RzR | I just sold my last USD last weekend |
| 20:38.09 | qwazix | IMO it will be a disaster |
| 20:38.34 | KotCzarny | O.o |
| 20:38.52 | qwazix | it will hurt tourism and services (the only things that still somehow work here) |
| 20:39.01 | RzR | I suppose local currencies are not the perfect answer |
| 20:39.31 | RzR | what will hurt tourism ? non euro currencies ? |
| 20:39.38 | qwazix | Greece has a long history of currency devaluation. Nothing indicates thia time will be different |
| 20:40.14 | RzR | btw I am wondering how big is greece's private debt compared to the state one ? |
| 20:40.15 | qwazix | yeah, tourists like to use their home currency, they spend more :p |
| 20:40.49 | qwazix | I don't remember but IIRC not too high |
| 20:41.26 | qwazix | it's a cash driven economy and traditionally people keep property/land |
| 20:41.26 | RzR | well it worth to compare because I've been told it it much higher in france or worldwide ? |
| 20:42.46 | qwazix | probably is. Mortgage and refinancing is not as common as elsewhere, driving the total debt number |
| 20:43.43 | qwazix | down |
| 20:44.09 | KotCzarny | well, state debt IS people's debt |
| 20:44.19 | qwazix | it is |
| 20:44.32 | KotCzarny | in a way it's the people that will feel it |
| 20:45.30 | qwazix | the thing is that there are actually reforms, state expenditure is down around 30% from 5 years ago |
| 20:45.47 | qwazix | but this is not communicated well |
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| 20:46.08 | qwazix | people think we are just eating money |
| 20:47.08 | qwazix | my battery is dying |
| 20:47.36 | qwazix | good night and sorry for the channel spam... |
| 20:47.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 20:49.37 | RzR | qwazix, take care qwazix |
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