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| 12:48.41 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Hey, I've finally just now finished and sent that email to Fairphone that I said I was writing! |
| 12:49.05 | Wizzup_ | yo. |
| 12:49.07 | Wizzup_ | ack |
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| 12:51.04 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: It's pretty long! GVim's wordcount counts 2371 words! |
| 12:51.24 | Wizzup_ | I've pinged the person I know, let me know what I should say |
| 12:51.25 | Wizzup_ | ;) |
| 12:58.08 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Maybe I should forward you a copy of the email. Right now, I'm going to take a break and talk about it later â I've been writing and thinking hard about this for days (I wanted to make sure I sent it before they made their Fairphone 2 announcement, apparently next week according to an email I received from their announce mailing list) and I need a break now. |
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| 13:48.24 | Wizzup_ | JamesJRH: ack |
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| 21:07.08 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: So I guess the first thing is to just make sure that they see my email (that it's not in spam or what have you). |
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| 21:15.49 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: To summarise my email, about technological liberty and the Fairphone, I explain that I think that it's strange that an ethical organisation seems to be ignoring or oblivious to libre software, and I endorse FSF's RYF certification. I also stress that open-source hardware is greatly lagging behind software and that Fairphone could help improve this by aiming for the OSH definition. |
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| 21:19.28 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Then I make a pledge for my support of RYF and OSH, both as money, promotion, and potentially helping out with ideas and software. I say that I'm happy to pay this upfront if they pledge they'll aim for RYF and OSH publicly under the condition that if they don't adhere to their pledge, they refund my pledge. |
| 21:26.34 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Then I go off on a bit of a tangent, detailing my dream phone that I'm aiming for and what my minimum requirements for a phone to be my main phone are (which coïncidentally is almost exactly the specification of the Fairphone 1, mainly just missing an FM radio, an anchor point, and video out, but slighly exceeding a couple of other features). |
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| 21:33.56 | JamesJRH | It's pretty much just the CPU and the mass that exceed my bare minimum, which I stated as: mass ⤠300g; CPU at least ARMv7-A dual-core 2Ã1.2GHz. |
| 21:34.33 | JamesJRH | The Fairphone is 163g and quad core. |
| 21:36.24 | JamesJRH | It's a pretty normal mass actually, most of the smartphones that I've considered getting are around 170g, but I really don't care, hence the very loose constraint there. |
| 21:39.45 | JamesJRH | I'd rather have 1 device with more features than carry multiple devices. If I carry 2 smartphones that are 170g, that's 340g. |
| 21:40.33 | bencoh | just put them it two different pockets :> |
| 21:40.36 | bencoh | (just kidding) |
| 21:40.56 | JamesJRH | Yep. |
| 21:42.01 | JamesJRH | I sometimes carry my old LG Optimus 3D because, well, it's stereoscopic and my Sony Xperia Z1 doesn't have that. |
| 21:44.23 | JamesJRH | What I'm saying is that I wouldn't complain about the mass of a phone being over the typical 170g by any means, because I'd prefer more features to be packed into a single device. Hence why my mass constraint is pretty lax. |
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| 21:51.27 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Do you also care about libre software or open-source hardware? If so, it would be good to let the person you know at Fairphone know that you're also interested. |
| 21:54.09 | bencoh | the issue with fairphone is not about "opensource hardware" (which usually refers to open schematics/board design and not open chips) but with the SoC itself |
| 21:54.16 | bencoh | but we've discussed that already |
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| 22:00.28 | JamesJRH | bencoh: Have we? |
| 22:00.47 | JamesJRH | Wasn't that the Neo900 we were talking about? |
| 22:01.24 | JamesJRH | (In #neo900 I think.) |
| 22:02.34 | JamesJRH | I understand that most chip designs aren't libre, but OSH is a step closer, which I wish to support. |
| 22:04.47 | bencoh | JamesJRH: we talked about the fairphone using a SoC with a shared-mem/bus design |
| 22:04.59 | bencoh | (and the modem has access to everyting) |
| 22:11.30 | JamesJRH | I remember now (with the help of my scrollback). It was on the 9th â wow, it took me so long to write this email. |
| 22:12.56 | JamesJRH | bencoh: I wrote to Fairphone because they're developing a new one. Hopefully they'll take onboard some of what I've said. |
| 22:18.05 | JamesJRH | This email had temporarily taken priority for a few days because I received a couple of emails from their mailing list saying that they're making progress with the Fairphone 2, so the later I left it, the less likely it would be that the Fairphone would be more technologically liberal. |
| 22:28.47 | JamesJRH | I was told about the Fairphone on the 6th, so I've been thinking about the Fairphone for just over a week now. |
| 22:36.20 | JamesJRH | I was also thinking about the Neo900 before that, which I found out about on the 4th â okay, 9 and a half days mainly spent thinking about smartphones in the context of technological liberty. I should get back to my BeagleBone Black and NixOS work. |
| 22:38.13 | JamesJRH | I'm glad to have at least done my best to potentially get something in the pipeline on this matter. |
| 22:38.59 | JamesJRH | Wizzup_: Let me know if there's anything that you can do to help. |
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