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| 13:49.49 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 13:50.32 | KotCzarny | would it be possible to connect charger directly to battery pins (without the battery) or is 'smart' pin connection required too? |
| 13:51.53 | L29Ah | i connect my charger directly, everything's fine |
| 13:52.01 | L29Ah | ah |
| 13:52.03 | L29Ah | nvm |
| 13:52.39 | L29Ah | try plugging in a resistor if it won't work |
| 13:52.59 | KotCzarny | its just an idea for now |
| 13:53.07 | L29Ah | also i'd add a capacitor to the output of the charger of about 1mF |
| 13:53.27 | L29Ah | as the charger may suck at stabilizing the voltage |
| 13:53.48 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 13:54.52 | KotCzarny | i'm planning to hack some recent linux on the mmc card, though i'll probably just buy some cheapo battery for tear and wear |
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| 15:53.45 | Sicelo | N900 definitely wants that third BSI pin. The software is hardcoded to shutdown if it doesn't detect it |
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| 16:09.17 | KotCzarny | sicelo: no known hacks to override it? |
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| 16:21.41 | L29Ah | bme rewrite (; |
| 16:23.26 | KotCzarny | rescueos doesnt use bme, but is using bq2* module to charge |
| 16:39.20 | ceene | is some version of nitdroid working, and if there is, is it any useful? |
| 16:39.35 | ceene | i tried once to install some random version I found but it didn't work too well |
| 16:39.40 | ceene | the screen only flickered |
| 16:39.44 | princefakhan | N12_Umay I guess |
| 16:39.56 | ceene | i gave out pretty soon, to be honest |
| 16:40.04 | princefakhan | that is the last stable release. |
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| 16:40.21 | princefakhan | as stable as nitdroid is on N900. :P |
| 16:40.32 | princefakhan | I never tried nitdroid |
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| 16:41.02 | ceene | i am just thinking of givint it a try simply for a good maps application |
| 16:41.13 | ceene | i got like 6 different map apps on maemo and i don't like any of them :/ |
| 16:41.28 | princefakhan | me too. |
| 16:41.55 | ceene | the only one that simply works is sygic, but its maps are now pretty outdated and it's quite ugly to look at |
| 16:41.56 | princefakhan | try N12_umay. Its based on gingerbread I think. |
| 16:42.37 | princefakhan | sygic has stopped supporting their maps app for phones iirc |
| 16:42.49 | ceene | yep, ages ago |
| 16:42.59 | ceene | but since it's offline it still works if you have it installed |
| 16:43.04 | princefakhan | hmmm. and it does look ugly. |
| 16:43.08 | princefakhan | hmmm. |
| 16:43.20 | ceene | yes, pretty ugly |
| 16:43.25 | ceene | but it least it carries me places |
| 16:43.36 | princefakhan | what about Nokia Maps. they updated the maps recently. |
| 16:43.43 | princefakhan | was there one for N900 too. |
| 16:44.07 | princefakhan | I remember asking that on twitter. but there was no response |
| 16:44.18 | ceene | yes, ovi maps works |
| 16:44.23 | ceene | it's prettier than sygic |
| 16:44.29 | ceene | but i still find it lacking |
| 16:44.45 | princefakhan | its the best available and most optimised imo |
| 16:45.11 | princefakhan | I remember installing modrana, but I couldn't get around its UI. |
| 16:45.36 | KotCzarny | i would bet ovi maps will top working sooner or later now that m$ took over |
| 16:45.42 | KotCzarny | s/top/stop/ |
| 16:45.50 | princefakhan | ceene: it is outdated. so lacking a lot things from today's standards |
| 16:45.57 | ceene | yep, that's another thing too |
| 16:46.14 | ceene | routing and search only works online |
| 16:46.33 | ceene | so once microsoft decides to shut it down, which I assume will be soon, it won't be of any use anymore |
| 16:46.39 | princefakhan | routing and search doesn't work offline? |
| 16:46.50 | ceene | nope |
| 16:47.55 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: you are misinformed. here Maps (previously Ovi Maps and Nokia Maps) is still a Nokia property. |
| 16:48.16 | ceene | uhm, that's true |
| 16:49.33 | princefakhan | they even released newer updates for MeeGo and Symbian phones. |
| 16:49.50 | KotCzarny | nokia is a m$ boy |
| 16:49.50 | ceene | lucky them :) |
| 16:50.03 | KotCzarny | sooner or later they will get around that |
| 16:50.05 | princefakhan | hehe. |
| 16:51.06 | princefakhan | I would want if someone makes a capable browser for maemo that loads the here.com page |
| 16:51.21 | princefakhan | or maybe an app. |
| 16:51.35 | ceene | nowadays i use debian's midori to browse on the n900 |
| 16:52.07 | ceene | it works better than any of the mobile browsers available for n900 |
| 16:52.11 | princefakhan | I tried midori in the early days. |
| 16:52.24 | princefakhan | I don't remember anything about it other than the icon |
| 16:52.27 | ceene | there's a hildonized version |
| 16:52.31 | ceene | but it's pretty unstable |
| 16:52.38 | ceene | the debian one, however, is pretty good |
| 16:52.45 | princefakhan | I installed about a dozen of browsers then. |
| 16:52.53 | ceene | so did i :) |
| 16:52.58 | ceene | and finally midori! |
| 16:53.05 | princefakhan | to find out that MicroB and Opera is the best combination. :P |
| 16:53.08 | KotCzarny | i have midori, firefox and microb |
| 16:53.17 | KotCzarny | usually using microb |
| 16:53.20 | princefakhan | I guess midori didn't work for some reason |
| 16:53.24 | KotCzarny | if page's js is not working i switch to ff |
| 16:53.40 | princefakhan | maybe I installed the hildonized one. |
| 16:53.50 | princefakhan | fennec is slow for me. |
| 16:54.00 | ceene | yes, fennec is good but slow |
| 16:54.04 | princefakhan | but the pages load eventually on it. |
| 16:54.10 | Wizzup | fennec is also outdated |
| 16:54.18 | princefakhan | it is. |
| 16:54.24 | KotCzarny | still, more workable for modern js than microb |
| 16:54.31 | princefakhan | so is any browser on N900 |
| 16:54.43 | ceene | i'm trying here.com with midori right now |
| 16:55.03 | ceene | just to see how (if) it works |
| 16:55.35 | princefakhan | it is great for online maps. |
| 16:56.11 | KotCzarny | for my area i just wget'ed some pngs from google maps |
| 16:56.13 | princefakhan | I have always preffered Nokia Maps over Google |
| 16:56.19 | KotCzarny | and prepared a html page |
| 16:56.24 | KotCzarny | with a script |
| 16:56.38 | KotCzarny | pretty nice for offline high detail map |
| 16:56.48 | princefakhan | cool idea |
| 16:57.04 | ceene | well, there are a few apps that work well for that |
| 16:57.22 | ceene | maep, marble, mapsi... |
| 16:57.28 | ceene | to browse around they are useful |
| 16:57.40 | ceene | but if you need to search any location they aren't very useful |
| 16:58.04 | princefakhan | I actually need maps to search. |
| 16:58.21 | princefakhan | I don't do navigation much with the help of maps. |
| 16:58.40 | ceene | well, here.com works on midori |
| 16:58.43 | ceene | but it's quite slow |
| 16:58.52 | ceene | that was something to expect, nonetheless |
| 16:59.04 | princefakhan | mhmm. |
| 16:59.18 | princefakhan | did you open the mobile web app or the pc version |
| 16:59.30 | ceene | i think it loaded the pc version |
| 16:59.39 | ceene | i can change the user agent to trick into showing me something else |
| 17:00.15 | princefakhan | try the mobile version. I never had the chance to see that in action. |
| 17:00.41 | princefakhan | in the meantime, can you point me on how to install midori |
| 17:01.37 | KotCzarny | ceene: anyway, for navigation i have android one, offline and with path calculation |
| 17:01.47 | KotCzarny | .pl/.eu region tho |
| 17:01.54 | ceene | i have a full debian on a chroot |
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| 17:02.00 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: which client do you use |
| 17:02.07 | KotCzarny | i use android tablet for it |
| 17:02.13 | princefakhan | oh! so easy debian |
| 17:02.15 | KotCzarny | e-book reader to be exact |
| 17:02.22 | ceene | yes, easy debian it is |
| 17:02.25 | KotCzarny | but works nicely as a map too |
| 17:02.41 | princefakhan | never tried it. however I crave a lot for it. |
| 17:03.12 | ceene | you really should |
| 17:03.17 | ceene | i don't open PDFs with any maemo application |
| 17:03.22 | ceene | i use debian's xournal |
| 17:03.32 | ceene | it also lets you write on top of any page with the stylus |
| 17:03.35 | princefakhan | there is xournal for maemo too. |
| 17:03.45 | ceene | oh |
| 17:03.58 | ceene | uhm |
| 17:03.59 | ceene | yes |
| 17:04.03 | princefakhan | :D |
| 17:04.04 | ceene | i tried it sometime ago |
| 17:04.12 | ceene | but i don't remember why i didn't like it |
| 17:04.29 | ceene | probably because it's an older version and maybe it lacked something? |
| 17:05.09 | ceene | m.here.com seems to work too |
| 17:05.38 | ceene | more or less |
| 17:05.59 | princefakhan | hmmm. is it faster than the pc version |
| 17:06.14 | ceene | a little bit |
| 17:06.18 | ceene | at least the interface is cleaner |
| 17:06.26 | ceene | and you can see a chunk of the map |
| 17:06.33 | ceene | instead of having lots of little thingies floating around |
| 17:06.58 | princefakhan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.33 | princefakhan | I once managed to somehow load here.com on MicroB, and like you say. |
| 17:07.44 | princefakhan | there were thingies floating aound |
| 17:08.08 | ceene | an updated version of maps |
| 17:08.13 | ceene | would be pretty great |
| 17:08.30 | princefakhan | so is there a way to know what a page requires to completely load |
| 17:09.01 | ceene | i don't know |
| 17:09.05 | ceene | probably acid tests? |
| 17:09.11 | ceene | midori will load pretty much anything |
| 17:09.25 | ceene | now, it being usable with our ram/cpu/screen is a different thing |
| 17:09.31 | princefakhan | ceene: ofc it would be. but there are only two good maps available. and they both don't support maemo. |
| 17:09.32 | KotCzarny | firefox has a 'show dependencies' extension |
| 17:09.44 | KotCzarny | there is a chance it will work on maemo's version |
| 17:10.07 | princefakhan | cool. doesn't matter if its on maemo or not. |
| 17:10.14 | princefakhan | we just check the dependencies. |
| 17:10.35 | KotCzarny | also, you can just setup proxy and see what goes through it |
| 17:10.49 | KotCzarny | this one is also preferred way to filter things out |
| 17:10.51 | princefakhan | make a script and provide the page those dependencies and package it as a maemo app. |
| 17:11.11 | princefakhan | so it uses less ram/cpu and works faster. |
| 17:12.14 | princefakhan | if it is possible. it should work a great deal for a lot of webpages that don't load completely on maemo. |
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| 17:15.44 | KotCzarny | i use proxy that can automatically store files when they match the pattern |
| 17:15.56 | KotCzarny | good for all those /jquery.js |
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| 17:16.17 | KotCzarny | and sometimes for some offline browsing |
| 17:17.20 | ceene | running an squid caching proxy on the phone itself would be funny |
| 17:18.39 | ceene | polipo - a small, caching web proxy |
| 17:18.46 | ceene | it's available for maemo |
| 17:18.46 | ceene | :D |
| 17:18.47 | ceene | haha |
| 17:18.55 | KotCzarny | ceene, i wrote a proxy myself, for my own use |
| 17:19.02 | KotCzarny | its ~60kB |
| 17:19.14 | KotCzarny | and pretty featurefull |
| 17:19.34 | ceene | is it available somewhere? |
| 17:19.36 | KotCzarny | far easier to setup too |
| 17:19.49 | KotCzarny | not yet |
| 17:20.07 | KotCzarny | as a side note, it works in cygwin too |
| 17:20.15 | KotCzarny | so it's pretty standard C |
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| 17:20.50 | KotCzarny | and it has a few bugs that still needs squashing, but overall usable for me |
| 17:20.56 | KotCzarny | not for general audience tho |
| 17:21.09 | KotCzarny | but if you want i can upload binary somewhere |
| 17:21.17 | ceene | you seem to enjoy coding things just for the sake of it :P |
| 17:21.43 | ceene | oh, don't bother |
| 17:21.43 | KotCzarny | nope, i code things because i'm not able to find any other software that does what i need |
| 17:21.57 | ceene | i may try polipo, just to see if a proxy would make my navigation better |
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| 17:22.55 | KotCzarny | setting caching on some link is as simple as adding Csome.host/*/some/path to filter file |
| 17:23.26 | princefakhan_ | ooh! we have an update for Yappari. |
| 17:23.37 | princefakhan_ | I like dem updates. :P |
| 17:24.00 | ceene | hehe |
| 17:24.04 | princefakhan_ | :D |
| 17:24.05 | ceene | it should solve your status issue :) |
| 17:24.08 | KotCzarny | everyone likes dem |
| 17:25.04 | princefakhan_ | ceene: lets see. I guess that is a good workaround until you or someone else finds the bug hiding in that code. |
| 17:25.50 | ceene | my feeling is that i keep patching things up |
| 17:26.01 | ceene | but with an inherited codebase like this |
| 17:26.17 | ceene | it's quite complex finding those little bastards |
| 17:26.43 | princefakhan_ | hehe. |
| 17:26.57 | princefakhan_ | you are still doing good enough. |
| 17:27.34 | princefakhan_ | May the code be with you! |
| 17:27.36 | princefakhan_ | :P |
| 17:27.38 | ceene | it's a pity scorpius got bored :( |
| 17:28.02 | princefakhan_ | is he even around anymore? |
| 17:28.10 | ceene | i don't quite know |
| 17:28.14 | ceene | he helped me a bit on the transition |
| 17:28.21 | ceene | and was very kind |
| 17:28.29 | ceene | but i think he doesn't use any nokia device anymore |
| 17:28.31 | princefakhan_ | :D |
| 17:28.53 | princefakhan_ | that maybe the reason he left the good work. |
| 17:29.01 | ceene | most probably |
| 17:29.07 | ceene | he stopped using his n900 |
| 17:29.16 | ceene | but his yappari was one of the reasons i decided to buy one :) |
| 17:29.16 | princefakhan_ | mhmm. |
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| 17:29.35 | ceene | i'm always late to the party! |
| 17:29.37 | princefakhan_ | wow! |
| 17:29.55 | ceene | i just can't stand android phones, not to speak of iphones |
| 17:30.04 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:30.08 | ceene | i... don't know, i am useless, and can't use modern GUIs :( |
| 17:30.20 | KotCzarny | tru dat |
| 17:30.29 | KotCzarny | modern concepts arent always better |
| 17:30.32 | ceene | and knowing that behind any android there's a linux kernel which i can't fully use because of things got on my nerves |
| 17:30.40 | princefakhan_ | eh! I don't like Apple/iOS. |
| 17:30.42 | KotCzarny | i hate all that media library fashion |
| 17:30.45 | princefakhan_ | samdungs. |
| 17:30.54 | ceene | i mean, having to install a 20Mb application just to do backups |
| 17:31.03 | ceene | when i could get around with a crontab+rsync... |
| 17:31.09 | ceene | well, it makes me cringe |
| 17:31.14 | princefakhan_ | I can use an android phone unless it gets updates. |
| 17:31.19 | KotCzarny | 20? i think itunes is few hundred megs on pc |
| 17:31.29 | princefakhan_ | and that means Nexus |
| 17:31.33 | ceene | hehe |
| 17:32.10 | princefakhan_ | Kotczarny: it is. |
| 17:32.26 | ceene | my mom got a tablet and is always asking me how to do things... all i can say is: i don't know, i just poke buttons at random and keep interpreting strange little icons to be what i want them to be, sometimes i get lucky and touch the right thing |
| 17:32.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:32.47 | princefakhan_ | lol! |
| 17:32.59 | KotCzarny | android is incosistent between versions |
| 17:33.14 | ceene | last month or so, they upgraded gmail |
| 17:33.16 | KotCzarny | they should keep their iconset close to each revision |
| 17:33.30 | ceene | so now my mom has to relearn all over again where the things are |
| 17:34.01 | ceene | and if i get it wrong sometimes, you can only imagine how many hours can she lose trying to archive a conversation |
| 17:34.25 | ceene | i mean, and i'm an engineer, i work programming computers, fpgas and designing goddamn circuits |
| 17:34.37 | ceene | but here i am, can't teach my mom to archive mails on her gmail |
| 17:34.41 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 17:34.59 | bencoh | teaching is difficult :) |
| 17:35.05 | ceene | my children will laugh at me |
| 17:35.10 | KotCzarny | not really |
| 17:35.14 | bencoh | especially teaching to non-techs ;) |
| 17:35.15 | ceene | when i won't use their modern holographic systems |
| 17:35.20 | KotCzarny | you can then ask them about blackboxes inside their magic boxes |
| 17:35.24 | ceene | and i insist on typing a whole bunch of things |
| 17:35.25 | ceene | hehe |
| 17:35.31 | KotCzarny | there will be two kinds of people |
| 17:35.37 | KotCzarny | knowledgeable and idiots |
| 17:35.45 | princefakhan_ | Kotczarny: I hate Android on the fact that only Google phones get the latest updates. and all other companies that manufacture android phones are too dumb to upgrade existing phones to the latest version. |
| 17:35.59 | princefakhan_ | or maybe that is just marketing. |
| 17:36.12 | KotCzarny | princefakhan_: yeah, 2.3.x was pretty good |
| 17:36.22 | KotCzarny | then it just went to be incompatible from version to version |
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| 17:36.32 | bencoh | ceene: wait ... they have holographic stuff these days ? |
| 17:36.35 | princefakhan_ | yeah! |
| 17:36.46 | ceene | bencoh: hehe, i hope my future kids will grow to see them! :) |
| 17:36.52 | bencoh | :-) |
| 17:37.04 | ceene | i mean, i want to see them myself |
| 17:37.15 | ceene | but since i'm a gui idiot i don't think i'll enjoy them very much |
| 17:37.31 | princefakhan_ | scrolls up to see what he missed |
| 17:37.49 | KotCzarny | hehe, holohraphic cmdline |
| 17:37.53 | ceene | well, it's not entirely my fault, you know, new google maps is unusable unless you have a modern i7 with at least 8Gb of ram |
| 17:38.03 | ceene | so i keep wanting to use always the not-latest-release of everything |
| 17:38.19 | KotCzarny | ceene, but you want to use latest-release of oscp |
| 17:38.22 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:38.25 | ceene | haha :D |
| 17:38.27 | KotCzarny | and othere kotczarny's stuff |
| 17:38.30 | KotCzarny | and ceene's stuff |
| 17:38.34 | bencoh | actually the old gmap was still available until recently (2 weeks) |
| 17:38.45 | bencoh | I didnt come across the "new" one until then |
| 17:38.48 | bencoh | it's unbearable |
| 17:38.58 | ceene | so it's not only me who hates it, is it? |
| 17:39.10 | bencoh | thou art not alone ! :) |
| 17:39.29 | princefakhan_ | GMaps. bleh. god how they messed it up. |
| 17:40.06 | princefakhan_ | Now android users have to use it cuz of the tight integration. |
| 17:40.25 | KotCzarny | tight |
| 17:40.25 | princefakhan_ | even when there is a better alternative available. |
| 17:40.28 | KotCzarny | what a nice word |
| 17:40.40 | princefakhan_ | hehe. |
| 17:40.54 | princefakhan_ | Android - Google services is nothing imo |
| 17:41.02 | princefakhan_ | Nokia tried and failed. |
| 17:41.23 | princefakhan_ | so yeah. its not just Maps. |
| 17:43.53 | princefakhan_ | whatever is wrong with meecolay. it wouldn't let me apt-get update |
| 17:44.34 | bencoh | hmm ... honestly, osmand (osm on android) feels horribly slow |
| 17:44.53 | princefakhan_ | osm? |
| 17:45.17 | bencoh | openstreetmap |
| 17:45.36 | princefakhan_ | oh! openstreetmaps |
| 17:45.55 | bencoh | afaiu they're not using tiles (unlike most of the map apps on maemo) |
| 17:46.05 | bencoh | so ... it's freaking slow |
| 17:47.21 | princefakhan_ | what is libcityinfo? |
| 17:47.44 | princefakhan_ | is it the one that contains the time info of diff cities |
| 17:49.39 | princefakhan_ | what was updated in the gtalk-plugin |
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| 17:50.40 | ceene | you can now set your client priority |
| 17:50.57 | ceene | i think it tries to solve some issues if you have several client opens at the same time |
| 17:51.14 | ceene | by giving a higher priority to your n900, so it always receives messages |
| 17:52.16 | princefakhan_ | oh! |
| 17:52.55 | ceene | when configuring your account |
| 17:53.00 | ceene | there's a new input box |
| 17:53.04 | ceene | i believe you have to put a number |
| 17:53.06 | ceene | default is 0 |
| 17:53.10 | ceene | and anything greate |
| 17:53.14 | ceene | will give you priority |
| 17:53.19 | ceene | or... something like that |
| 17:53.41 | princefakhan_ | :D |
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| 18:14.04 | princefakhan_ | what is new on tmo |
| 18:16.21 | princefakhan_ | nm. I see the New Post button. |
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| 18:26.31 | bencoh | hmm ... I'm pretty sure someone added a wiki page for the downloads.maemo.nokia.com replacement, but I cant find it |
| 18:26.50 | bencoh | (I know the different TMO links, but the idea of linking everything from wiki sounds appealing) |
| 18:26.58 | KotCzarny | he he |
| 18:27.10 | KotCzarny | and now you know why i asked for your sources.lst |
| 18:27.28 | bencoh | KotCzarny: no, since I linked you the TMO thread ;) |
| 18:27.51 | KotCzarny | yes, but tmo shouldnt be primary source of info |
| 18:27.59 | bencoh | anyway, I wanted to add ~dmnc to infobot, so if anyone comes across this wiki page, please do :) |
| 18:28.18 | KotCzarny | such information should be on unmodifiable wiki page |
| 18:29.02 | princefakhan_ | ~dmnc |
| 18:29.04 | bencoh | there are no official mirrors, so it should be editable, at least for some time :) |
| 18:29.14 | KotCzarny | true that |
| 18:29.23 | princefakhan_ | wonders whatever that is |
| 18:29.51 | KotCzarny | dmns is downloads.maemo.nokia.com, but no official mirrors yet? search on talk.maemo.org for temporaries |
| 18:29.55 | bencoh | downloads.maemo.nokia.com |
| 18:29.59 | KotCzarny | dmnc is downloads.maemo.nokia.com, but no official mirrors yet? search on talk.maemo.org for temporaries |
| 18:30.05 | KotCzarny | ok ok, typo |
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| 18:30.09 | KotCzarny | ~dmnc |
| 18:30.12 | ceene | i uploaded a big torrent file |
| 18:30.17 | ceene | i know some people mirrored it |
| 18:30.24 | ceene | there are a couple mirrors that are apt-get usable |
| 18:30.25 | KotCzarny | he didn't learn |
| 18:30.27 | ceene | but aren't complete |
| 18:30.47 | ceene | mine was, but i won't be putting them on a publicy accesible http site |
| 18:30.52 | bencoh | ceene: actually they are :) |
| 18:30.55 | princefakhan_ | infobot: why u no learn |
| 18:30.56 | infobot | why not? |
| 18:31.08 | bencoh | (but the ovi part needs http basic auth, like the nokia servers) |
| 18:31.23 | bencoh | infobot: #maemo dmnc is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1467839 |
| 18:31.23 | infobot | okay, bencoh |
| 18:31.29 | bencoh | ~dmnc |
| 18:31.29 | infobot | dmnc is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1467839 |
| 18:31.57 | bencoh | and someone recently published a full copy with no auth at all |
| 18:32.16 | ceene | oh, i didn't know about that |
| 18:32.32 | ceene | much better all, then |
| 18:32.54 | KotCzarny | more mirrors, more chance it will stay up |
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| 19:02.53 | princefakhan | is there a way to apt-get install all the apps in a specified repo |
| 19:03.12 | KotCzarny | list them then just put all in the cmd line |
| 19:03.43 | princefakhan | ohkay! |
| 19:04.05 | wnd | and you'll probably end up having conflicts that prevent you from installing all of them |
| 19:04.10 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 19:04.16 | ceene | yep, i wouldn't recommend doing that |
| 19:04.40 | KotCzarny | learning things hard way is sometimes fun |
| 19:05.02 | princefakhan | well it is actually a small repo. and all the programs are needed. |
| 19:05.15 | princefakhan | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/bme-replacement |
| 19:05.22 | princefakhan | this one to be precise |
| 19:05.26 | ceene | oh, it's no problem then |
| 19:05.53 | ceene | on the other hand, probably most of the packages on the repo depend one on another |
| 19:06.04 | ceene | so maybe installing just one ore two is enough to pull all of them |
| 19:06.12 | ceene | mostly those that are libraries |
| 19:08.58 | princefakhan | :) |
| 19:09.28 | L29Ah | is bme-replacement awesome? where can i see an overview? |
| 19:10.29 | kerio | ~bme-replacement |
| 19:10.29 | infobot | i heard bme-replacement is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/projects/maemo/bme-replacement.html See also: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement . Please, use wiki page to report bugs/problems and/or solutions to them!, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183 |
| 19:10.48 | kerio | it's sufficiently fire-and-forget that it's not awesome |
| 19:10.52 | kerio | :> |
| 19:11.16 | princefakhan | Eh! I actually wanted to know if its just a replacement or improvement. |
| 19:11.24 | kerio | it's a full replacement |
| 19:11.54 | princefakhan | mhmm. like 0xFFFF |
| 19:12.19 | L29Ah | okay no one loves the old kernel |
| 19:12.29 | princefakhan | I guess that the name of the flasher replacement. |
| 19:12.31 | L29Ah | and no one cares enough to adapt a new one for maemo |
| 19:12.32 | L29Ah | >_> |
| 19:12.48 | princefakhan | Pali does, I guess |
| 19:13.41 | L29Ah | damn i left my n900 at a friends' house ;[ |
| 19:14.13 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 19:14.22 | KotCzarny | it's like forgetting a child |
| 19:14.29 | KotCzarny | at 'friend's' house |
| 19:14.36 | L29Ah | a child is self-homing |
| 19:14.47 | L29Ah | and annoy you when you're too far away |
| 19:14.51 | KotCzarny | unless child is tied in the cellar |
| 19:15.25 | L29Ah | hmm i need a thing that will lock my laptop if i'm leaving it |
| 19:15.37 | L29Ah | and doesn't consume much of power |
| 19:15.39 | KotCzarny | that's called xscreensaver |
| 19:15.43 | KotCzarny | -blank |
| 19:15.45 | L29Ah | it's time-based |
| 19:15.57 | L29Ah | i don't want it to lock the screen every 5s |
| 19:15.58 | kerio | you can trigger it manually |
| 19:16.04 | L29Ah | too lazy :] |
| 19:16.11 | kerio | i just press cmd+shift+eject |
| 19:16.13 | L29Ah | will try to use hdapsd for this tho |
| 19:16.14 | KotCzarny | bind to a key |
| 19:16.17 | kerio | because i have a mac [: |
| 19:16.18 | L29Ah | did this |
| 19:16.19 | ceene | if you want, you can always set a bluetooth based proximity app |
| 19:16.25 | KotCzarny | still, there are ways |
| 19:16.39 | ceene | but of course you have not to leave your n900 at someone's house |
| 19:16.40 | KotCzarny | also, linux has screen saver management that can automatically lock it |
| 19:16.58 | L29Ah | bluetooth eats a lot and the bluetooth implementation in my laptop doesn't publish the signal strength and loses the signal sometimes even if 10cm from the device :/ |
| 19:17.27 | L29Ah | i guess i need some BLE dongle and device or so |
| 19:17.34 | KotCzarny | nah |
| 19:17.36 | KotCzarny | just timer |
| 19:18.05 | ceene | a timer is good enough for me |
| 19:18.08 | kerio | nuh uh |
| 19:18.11 | kerio | you blank the screen to save power |
| 19:18.18 | KotCzarny | wow, gta 3/4/vc/sa&ep package for 9eur on humble |
| 19:18.19 | kerio | if you want to lock the screen, you lock the screen consciously |
| 19:18.26 | ceene | at work i also have a special key of the keyboard configured to automatically lock it |
| 19:18.34 | kerio | KotCzarny: does san andreas have all the original music |
| 19:18.36 | KotCzarny | too bad i dont like gta |
| 19:18.38 | ceene | so whenever i have to get out, it's just one key to press |
| 19:18.44 | kerio | ceene: as opposed to two? |
| 19:18.46 | KotCzarny | kerio, don't know, check yourself |
| 19:18.50 | ceene | kerio: yes :P |
| 19:18.54 | kerio | nice |
| 19:19.10 | ceene | i have one of these keyboards with lots of multimedia keys that i don't use |
| 19:19.11 | kerio | it's not even a bundle |
| 19:19.17 | ceene | so one of them is configured to lock the screen |
| 19:19.24 | KotCzarny | thinkpads have big blue 'thinkpad' button |
| 19:19.27 | princefakhan | Optifying usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher -> /opt/maemo/usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher |
| 19:19.29 | princefakhan | mv: can't rename '/usr/share/doc/applauncherd-launcher': No such file or directory |
| 19:19.29 | KotCzarny | that's usually unused |
| 19:19.38 | L29Ah | ye i use it for locking atm |
| 19:19.49 | princefakhan | I still get this problem while updating/installing anything |
| 19:19.58 | kerio | KotCzarny: where's the pack? |
| 19:20.03 | kerio | i only see the individual games ._. |
| 19:20.18 | KotCzarny | kerio: go to rockstar sale menu |
| 19:20.28 | KotCzarny | https://www.humblebundle.com/store/promo/rockstar/ |
| 19:20.35 | KotCzarny | should be close to the top |
| 19:21.35 | kerio | i mean |
| 19:21.42 | kerio | i can't find gta 3 |
| 19:21.44 | KotCzarny | also, mind you, those humble deals arent' so top-promo, so most likely there will be nice steam sale |
| 19:21.54 | KotCzarny | kerio: ? |
| 19:21.55 | kerio | but SA+VC+4 is 8⬠|
| 19:21.57 | KotCzarny | it's in the bundle |
| 19:22.23 | KotCzarny | https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/gta3_storefront |
| 19:22.27 | KotCzarny | if you only need 3 |
| 19:22.32 | kerio | i wasn't seeing that link .-. |
| 19:22.39 | kerio | in fact, that link just brings me to /store |
| 19:22.46 | kerio | ...i wonder if it's a geographical thing |
| 19:22.56 | bencoh | 21:12 < L29Ah> and no one cares enough to adapt a new one for maemo |
| 19:22.59 | KotCzarny | maybe you missed BIGGER THATN USUAL |
| 19:23.01 | bencoh | sure some people do |
| 19:23.12 | kerio | KotCzarny: that link literally redirects me to /store |
| 19:23.42 | KotCzarny | kerio, might be region promo then |
| 19:23.54 | kerio | GTA 3 doesn't even appear in the store for me |
| 19:24.09 | KotCzarny | 1.19eur for gta3 |
| 19:24.32 | L29Ah | where's the bme-replacement source code repo? |
| 19:24.43 | KotCzarny | and ~8eur for the aforementioned big pack |
| 19:28.02 | KotCzarny | pixelboy looks nice |
| 19:28.25 | KotCzarny | action-rpg shoot-em-up |
| 19:28.54 | bencoh | L29Ah: gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/bme-rx-51 |
| 19:29.02 | bencoh | dunno where the new home is |
| 19:29.25 | KotCzarny | anyway, nite nite |
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| 19:30.27 | bencoh | Pali: I couldnt find bme-replacement on github ... has it moved some place else ? |
| 19:31.20 | princefakhan | didn't gitorious shutdown or something |
| 19:31.53 | Pali | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93183 |
| 19:32.32 | princefakhan | aha! I installed all the packages. |
| 19:32.37 | princefakhan | One by one. :P |
| 19:32.49 | princefakhan | Pali: do I need to restart now. |
| 19:32.58 | princefakhan | I just installed bme-replacement |
| 19:33.20 | Pali | yes after installation is restart needed |
| 19:33.36 | princefakhan | :) |
| 19:33.57 | L29Ah | Pali: it'd be awesome if you put the new url for the repos to http://wiki.maemo.org/Bme_replacement after you move away from gitorious |
| 19:34.23 | Pali | ok, I will update it later... |
| 19:36.04 | princefakhan | is gonna restart his phone now |
| 19:36.15 | princefakhan | bb in 5 guys. |
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| 19:45.49 | princefakhan | so bme-replacement has bugs? it isn't in cssu yet. |
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| 19:53.21 | bencoh | Pali: I did find it on gitorious ... but weren't we supposed to migrate stuff ? :) |
| 19:53.43 | Pali | bencoh: gitorious is in R/O mode... |
| 19:53.52 | bencoh | yea |
| 19:53.54 | Pali | and until I need to modify it, I do not need to migrate repos... |
| 19:54.08 | bencoh | hm, that's one way to look at it |
| 19:54.33 | bencoh | :) |
| 20:04.48 | Sicelo | routing on Nokia Maps (N900) does work offline. Only Search absolutely needs connection. |
| 20:04.57 | Sicelo | ceene: ^ |
| 20:06.28 | Sicelo | btw, regarding Yappari status, my contacts still don't see it (although now it does 'stick' in Yappari) |
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| 20:08.41 | Sicelo | for Maps, unfortunately i have found all the applications unsuited to my use, so i only use Ovi maps. With the voice-assist hack, works nicely for me :) |
| 20:10.21 | kerio | voice-assist? :o |
| 20:10.35 | Sicelo | lol, ok. voice-guidance |
| 20:10.51 | kerio | with nokia maps? |
| 20:10.52 | kerio | neat |
| 20:11.07 | ceene | Sicelo: then your contacts are really strange people! :p :( |
| 20:11.25 | L29Ah | Pali: do you run your maemo on linux-4? |
| 20:11.27 | ceene | it must be that some WA versions need something else... |
| 20:11.29 | ceene | i don't know |
| 20:11.30 | Sicelo | yes. involves replacing the maps index.html .. and downloading te nokia voice files. but works perfectly |
| 20:11.32 | L29Ah | er, 3.18 |
| 20:11.40 | Pali | no, I did not try maemo on linux 4 yet... |
| 20:12.05 | ceene | Sicelo: how does the voice work on maps? |
| 20:12.08 | ceene | i didn't know about that |
| 20:12.22 | L29Ah | Pali: â |
| 20:12.36 | Pali | 3.12 working somehow... |
| 20:12.37 | Sicelo | search for Blaizen on tmo .. he's the one who masterminded the whole thing |
| 20:12.47 | L29Ah | what's broken? |
| 20:12.48 | Pali | => can boot |
| 20:12.55 | Pali | see elinux.org/N900 |
| 20:12.56 | Sicelo | i chose the method which uses a voice server |
| 20:12.58 | Pali | lot of stuff |
| 20:13.06 | ceene | ah, there's even a wiki |
| 20:16.37 | bencoh | Sicelo: marbe has voice assistance afaict |
| 20:17.52 | Sicelo | i struggle with offline maps on all of these applications. maybe it's pebkac, but... |
| 20:18.21 | bencoh | offline maps work out of the box, offline routing works by installing monav |
| 20:18.47 | ceene | the problem with marble |
| 20:18.49 | ceene | is osm |
| 20:18.54 | bencoh | offline search ... isn't really intuitive but it does work (fuzzy search is online only) |
| 20:18.59 | ceene | i can't find my street |
| 20:19.04 | ceene | and i live in the city |
| 20:19.27 | ceene | because it has such a long and incredible name, i have to specify something like 1 thousand characteres for it to find my street |
| 20:19.44 | bencoh | even with (online) fuzzy search ? |
| 20:19.57 | ceene | mmmmm i don't know |
| 20:20.01 | ceene | it's a long time since i tried last time |
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