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| 04:49.19 | L29Ah | [21:24:20]<KotCzarny> ahm, i dont use it |
| 04:49.19 | L29Ah | how do you cooperate w/ other ppl then? send tarballs? |
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| 05:53.25 | KotCzarny | L29Ah: i dont cooperate, for maemo i prepare packages, for pc i made tar balls |
| 05:53.34 | KotCzarny | its my solo project |
| 05:54.19 | KotCzarny | and for ideas/feedback i use irc/tmo |
| 05:55.06 | KotCzarny | i primarily made oscp for myself and shared it afterwards for others |
| 05:56.00 | L29Ah | i think it should close the output device on pause |
| 05:56.30 | L29Ah | also the photo button is not as easy as unplugging the headphones (: |
| 05:56.39 | KotCzarny | heh |
| 05:56.54 | KotCzarny | also, if you have headphones button should work too |
| 05:57.10 | KotCzarny | short press for pause, long press for track skip |
| 05:57.25 | KotCzarny | (or ffwd if you prefer) |
| 05:58.31 | L29Ah | lol camera crashed |
| 06:09.30 | L29Ah | do i understand it right i need to recompile oscp to add a delay before unpausing after i plug in the headphones? |
| 06:09.49 | KotCzarny | you can change oscp-dbus-listener.py |
| 06:10.06 | KotCzarny | as its the part that listens to dbus and informs core about events |
| 06:10.18 | KotCzarny | its in /opt/oscp/bin/ |
| 06:11.00 | L29Ah | ⥠|
| 06:11.31 | KotCzarny | if you dont know python its very easy to learn |
| 06:13.21 | L29Ah | yeah took a minute to implement |
| 06:15.07 | L29Ah | pulseaudio needs >0.5s to understand it needs to switch the output o_O |
| 06:15.56 | KotCzarny | there is pretty much stuff going on on output switch |
| 06:16.05 | KotCzarny | but yeah, 0.5s is a lot |
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| 07:03.29 | L29Ah | damn, messing w/ i2cdump eats a lot of energy |
| 07:03.38 | L29Ah | how's the bme replacement? |
| 07:04.21 | L29Ah | wants to monitor the discharge current |
| 07:05.11 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: do i need to recompile oscp to make it stop playing on ejecting the jack? |
| 07:05.36 | L29Ah | as in "stop eating my precious joules" |
| 07:07.41 | KotCzarny | i dont remember, does dbus listener check the /sys file too? |
| 07:08.04 | KotCzarny | you can try sending STOP instead of HP 0 |
| 07:08.47 | KotCzarny | though i dont remember if dbuslistener messages go through the same remote commands loop |
| 07:12.00 | L29Ah | NEXT on insert and STOP on eject did the job |
| 07:12.16 | KotCzarny | L29Ah: as for amperage measurements grab the bq2700.sh script |
| 07:12.29 | KotCzarny | you dont have to mess with i2c directly |
| 07:12.34 | L29Ah | okay, the only problem left is oscp stopping at borked mp3s |
| 07:12.41 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: it consumes a lot |
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| 07:12.50 | L29Ah | even when polling once in 5s |
| 07:13.08 | L29Ah | maybe even more than paused oscp + pa |
| 07:13.12 | KotCzarny | L29Ah: that one is on my todo, still hadnt gotten around to weed it out completely |
| 07:14.31 | KotCzarny | also, for the list of available command see: https://sourceforge.net/projects/oscp/files/binaries/remote.txt/download |
| 07:14.34 | L29Ah | i wonder what are the world's n900 reserves |
| 07:14.35 | KotCzarny | *commands |
| 07:14.45 | L29Ah | will i be able to buy one in three years? |
| 07:15.01 | KotCzarny | most likely |
| 07:15.04 | KotCzarny | used tho |
| 07:15.17 | KotCzarny | remember production ended long time ago |
| 07:15.22 | L29Ah | sure |
| 07:16.12 | L29Ah | we already ran out of thinkpad x201s that were produced around the same time |
| 07:16.29 | KotCzarny | i still see thinkpads x2x/x3x |
| 07:16.32 | L29Ah | the last one i saw costed about $1500 |
| 07:16.41 | L29Ah | they're quite sucky |
| 07:16.43 | KotCzarny | s/costed/cost/ |
| 07:16.51 | L29Ah | :3 |
| 07:16.59 | KotCzarny | yeah, just an example that such old machines are still available |
| 07:17.28 | L29Ah | x201s and n900 are both in the class of the best of their kind machines |
| 07:17.35 | KotCzarny | x40 is nice |
| 07:17.36 | KotCzarny | very nice |
| 07:17.42 | KotCzarny | especially with ssd drive |
| 07:18.03 | L29Ah | crappy resolution and power consumption afair |
| 07:18.04 | KotCzarny | with fan off and idle it keeps ~40C |
| 07:18.15 | KotCzarny | never seen any other machine that can do it |
| 07:18.26 | KotCzarny | somtimes it even goes under 40C |
| 07:18.40 | KotCzarny | mind you, fan OFF |
| 07:18.42 | L29Ah | my x201 goes over 90°C with fan off and idle (: |
| 07:19.01 | KotCzarny | if it had dual core cpu i would be still using it |
| 07:19.22 | KotCzarny | and 4:3 screen > any wide crap |
| 07:20.11 | L29Ah | anyway it's the total amount of pixels matters |
| 07:20.18 | L29Ah | and x201s has 1400x900 |
| 07:21.25 | KotCzarny | you can get high res 12" 4:3 screens too |
| 07:23.00 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.02 | KotCzarny | to be exact |
| 07:23.55 | kerio | 2880x1800 master race o/ |
| 07:24.08 | KotCzarny | ipad? |
| 07:24.25 | kerio | macbook pro |
| 07:24.34 | KotCzarny | i wouldnt call it master race |
| 07:24.38 | KotCzarny | its not a pc |
| 07:24.49 | kerio | sounds like someone's jealous |
| 07:24.53 | KotCzarny | not really |
| 07:24.59 | KotCzarny | im happy with my 1024x768 |
| 07:25.02 | kerio | so jel |
| 07:25.52 | KotCzarny | can you run scratchbox on your macbook? |
| 07:25.58 | kerio | yes |
| 07:26.10 | KotCzarny | ok, you can do something useful then |
| 07:26.12 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 07:27.48 | L29Ah | i thought about putting a macbook air display in the x201's lid |
| 07:27.58 | KotCzarny | i think wouldnt handle it |
| 07:28.14 | L29Ah | but it would require some downgrade of the mechanical strength |
| 07:28.14 | KotCzarny | and chipset doesnt have its native resolution neither |
| 07:28.53 | L29Ah | macbook air lcd is displayport and you can hook it up to the docking bay connector |
| 07:29.28 | L29Ah | anyway it won't handle me stomping on the lid, so no |
| 07:30.13 | L29Ah | kerio: can you stand on your macbook? |
| 07:30.25 | kerio | no |
| 07:30.28 | kerio | that would be retarded |
| 07:31.09 | KotCzarny | its just an example how much pressure it will survive |
| 07:31.24 | KotCzarny | you can leave your lappy near the bed |
| 07:31.35 | KotCzarny | or put it into bag |
| 07:32.32 | KotCzarny | i got t60 for my gf, it's still alive |
| 07:32.35 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 07:32.45 | KotCzarny | after so many years |
| 07:34.02 | L29Ah | i crashed my t60 lcd when a shielving rack collapsed on it being open, got a crack on a side of the lid >_> |
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| 07:42.30 | kerio | may i recommend an actual ruggedized laptop |
| 07:42.39 | kerio | i fear for your electronics :c |
| 07:42.40 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 07:42.48 | KotCzarny | thinkpads ftw! |
| 07:43.29 | L29Ah | i haven't seen an actual modern rugged laptop w/ a trackpoint and a sensible price tag |
| 07:43.44 | KotCzarny | yeah, nipple ftw! |
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| 07:49.03 | KotCzarny | bencoh: hint for you: Using laser pen lens as macro lens for camera phone |
| 07:57.02 | bencoh | hmm ? |
| 07:57.31 | KotCzarny | if you are into photography tricks |
| 07:57.50 | bencoh | oh, not that much :) |
| 07:58.03 | bencoh | I just saw it on the window |
| 07:58.30 | KotCzarny | biology happens |
| 07:58.54 | Hurrian | oh wow, it's not just me who hates the display on the X201 |
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| 08:01.06 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:01.30 | Hurrian | too bad there isn't a T60-style HiDPI screen mod for it |
| 08:01.31 | KotCzarny | i was thinking about upgrading my x60 to x20x, but only think better would be ddr3 |
| 08:02.10 | Hurrian | i dunno, Core2->Nehalem was a pretty good jump in power |
| 08:02.11 | KotCzarny | *thing |
| 08:02.13 | L29Ah | msata also |
| 08:02.28 | L29Ah | btw somehow x201 eats more power than t60 |
| 08:02.28 | KotCzarny | yeah, but temperature would rise too much |
| 08:02.44 | Hurrian | yep my X201's exhaust fan doubles as a blowdryer |
| 08:02.57 | Hurrian | BUT, the laptop _never_ overheats. |
| 08:03.13 | KotCzarny | but its uncomfortable to have it in your lap |
| 08:03.22 | Hurrian | L29Ah: got the 9-cell to go with your X201? |
| 08:03.31 | L29Ah | my x201 w/ i7 reaches 100°C on especially tough compiles |
| 08:03.37 | L29Ah | Hurrian: sure |
| 08:03.45 | KotCzarny | L29Ah: tried undervolting? |
| 08:03.53 | L29Ah | yep |
| 08:03.58 | KotCzarny | pity |
| 08:04.06 | KotCzarny | now i have another reason not to upgrade |
| 08:04.32 | KotCzarny | as for msata thing, you can get an adapter |
| 08:04.39 | KotCzarny | my x40 uses msata drive |
| 08:04.45 | L29Ah | sometimes i think about upscaling my n900 battery hack to x201 |
| 08:04.56 | L29Ah | but fail to think out a sensible case |
| 08:05.06 | Hurrian | 12-cell upgrade? |
| 08:05.06 | KotCzarny | backpack accu |
| 08:05.17 | KotCzarny | grab car's one |
| 08:05.26 | KotCzarny | 60Ah would be enough for a week |
| 08:05.28 | L29Ah | Hurrian: more like filling all the bottom surface w/ cells |
| 08:05.41 | L29Ah | lead is too heavy |
| 08:05.45 | KotCzarny | bah |
| 08:05.53 | KotCzarny | that's just an excuse |
| 08:06.09 | Hurrian | L29Ah: unless you want to take out the SATA disk there's not too much wiggle room inside the laptop though |
| 08:06.20 | L29Ah | Panasonic 18650s are the state of the art now |
| 08:06.26 | KotCzarny | paste him the pic |
| 08:06.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:06.33 | KotCzarny | he doesnt know about the hack |
| 08:06.57 | L29Ah | Hurrian: https://dump.bitcheese.net/files/avijeju/n900-cutie.jpeg |
| 08:07.48 | Hurrian | :o |
| 08:07.54 | Hurrian | Are those 18650s? |
| 08:08.22 | L29Ah | yep |
| 08:08.46 | Hurrian | GOTTA HAVE POWER |
| 08:09.16 | Hurrian | speaking of 18650s, I baby the crap out of my 9-cell |
| 08:09.52 | Hurrian | it's unbelievable how expensive those are |
| 08:10.07 | L29Ah | chinese ones are $30 or so |
| 08:10.12 | Hurrian | was just lucky I got a relatively-new one when I picked up my X201 second hand |
| 08:11.26 | KotCzarny | i got chines 9cell for my t61 for ~30$ |
| 08:11.42 | KotCzarny | still have to see how long it will last after a year |
| 08:12.25 | Hurrian | KotCzarny: I heard the Chinese chem labs are getting better |
| 08:12.30 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 08:12.45 | KotCzarny | still, only time can tell about their longevity |
| 08:13.02 | KotCzarny | the original battery for my gf's t60 is still strong |
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| 08:13.16 | Hurrian | tbh when my 9-cell conks out I plan to re-cell the thing with new 18650s |
| 08:13.24 | KotCzarny | and she usually goes around the house with it, so it cycles often |
| 08:13.37 | Hurrian | (hopefully Tesla gets their gigafactory up by then, 18650 price will fall through the floor) |
| 08:14.14 | KotCzarny | i hope for solar panels price to go down |
| 08:14.31 | KotCzarny | or for more effective peltier cells |
| 08:15.10 | L29Ah | Hurrian: not much point in recelling unless you go w/ panasonics |
| 08:15.26 | KotCzarny | he wants to use american produced ones |
| 08:16.10 | L29Ah | whoa tesla uses panasonics |
| 08:16.45 | Hurrian | yep the Gigafactory was a joint venture with Panasonic iirc |
| 08:18.00 | Hurrian | not much surprise there, the Thinkpads forum told me to specifically look for a Panasonic battery when buying |
| 08:19.05 | L29Ah | too bad panasonics are optimized for 4.2â2.5V discharge cycles |
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| 08:25.02 | Hurrian | KotCzarny: solar is pretty affordable now though |
| 08:25.32 | KotCzarny | i want them smaller, more effective, cheaper |
| 08:25.43 | KotCzarny | living in a cloudy country |
| 08:25.57 | Hurrian | it's not exactly mass market but if you want it, you can have it |
| 08:26.05 | Hurrian | ah, well that changes things |
| 08:26.45 | Hurrian | it's tropical out here, so with battery storage you could probably make it off-grid, even in the rainy season |
| 08:26.55 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:26.58 | KotCzarny | hehe |
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| 08:42.48 | L29Ah | i forgot why did i trash bq27x00_battery >_> |
| 08:46.47 | L29Ah | better but still a lot: monitoring via `watch -n 4` over wifi doubles the energy consumption over idling |
| 08:47.09 | KotCzarny | if you just want the data install battery-eye |
| 08:47.16 | KotCzarny | its quite energy efficient |
| 08:47.42 | KotCzarny | it only activates on events that otherwise would wake up the device |
| 08:47.50 | L29Ah | is it compatible w/ bq27x00_battery? |
| 08:48.24 | KotCzarny | it gathers data into db you can use, but also has a gui so you dont have to process it yourself |
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| 08:54.50 | L29Ah | okay seems like it's not |
| 08:56.02 | KotCzarny | for real no-waky-waky-devicey i told you to install meter between the battery and the device |
| 08:56.25 | KotCzarny | and it would be more accurate too |
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| 08:58.26 | L29Ah | i wonder if the internal thing is able to show me the total energy went thru it |
| 08:58.39 | KotCzarny | battery-eye can |
| 08:58.51 | KotCzarny | click on the menu and see 'statistics' |
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| 09:09.47 | L29Ah | okay datasheet says AI is the current averaged over 5.12s, good |
| 09:10.20 | L29Ah | no access to the actual coloumb meter, bad |
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| 09:43.53 | L29Ah | does anyone use some modern kernel on n900? |
| 09:44.13 | KotCzarny | modern kernel needs modern glibc |
| 09:44.19 | L29Ah | http://elinux.org/N900 is full of love |
| 09:44.22 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: how come? |
| 09:44.38 | KotCzarny | i think its about some functions changed |
| 09:45.06 | KotCzarny | lol, there is kernel 4.1? |
| 09:45.08 | L29Ah | i think linus won't break libc |
| 09:45.18 | KotCzarny | i was so used to 3.xx |
| 09:45.43 | L29Ah | linus said he can't count this far so he bumps the major version number |
| 09:46.12 | KotCzarny | it was easier to ignore kernel releases because of 'i still have 3.xx' |
| 09:46.25 | KotCzarny | now it feels like i need to upgrade again |
| 09:46.53 | KotCzarny | not to mention all those external modules relying on KERNEL_VER(2|3), hehe |
| 09:47.10 | kerio | can't modern kernel on n900 without losing quite a bit of stuff |
| 09:47.12 | L29Ah | ye, coreutils' ping whines about kernel being too old (: |
| 09:47.20 | L29Ah | kerio: what stuff? |
| 09:47.54 | kerio | phone calls, accelerated graphics, stuff like that |
| 09:48.38 | L29Ah | phone calls? srsly? |
| 09:48.52 | L29Ah | there's some stuff about "modem protocol" being implemented on that page |
| 09:51.08 | kerio | we're just way below the critical mass of people needed to bring maemo up to speed, i think |
| 09:51.30 | L29Ah | http://elinux.org/User:Sre i wonder if he hangs out there |
| 09:54.16 | KotCzarny | email him |
| 09:54.23 | KotCzarny | irc is a time waster mostly |
| 09:57.28 | L29Ah | Userland access goes via /dev/cmt_speech. The API is implemented in |
| 09:57.28 | L29Ah | libcmtspeechdata, which is used by ofono and the freesmartphone.org project. |
| 09:57.28 | L29Ah | Apart from that the device is also used by the phone binaries distributed |
| 09:57.28 | L29Ah | with Maemo. So while this is a new userland ABI for the mainline kernel it |
| 09:57.28 | L29Ah | has been tested in the wild for some years. |
| 09:57.47 | L29Ah | sounds like it'll work |
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| 10:20.44 | bencoh | L29Ah: see https://github.com/pali/linux-n900 |
| 10:21.15 | KotCzarny | bencoh, is there some feature summary for it? |
| 10:21.58 | bencoh | the elinux.org wiki afaik |
| 10:22.11 | KotCzarny | ahm, so its the same thing |
| 10:22.36 | bencoh | yeah, just that iirc pali's tree is the most up-to-date since the gitorious "shutdown" |
| 10:23.29 | bencoh | as for mainline, quite a lot of stuff got merged, but some of it broke at some point |
| 10:24.10 | bencoh | and .... |
| 10:24.24 | bencoh | yay, cmtspeech acked for 4.1-rc \o/ |
| 10:25.26 | bencoh | some guy didnt want it at first because of some silly reason (the usual "this is not the way it should work") |
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| 10:46.32 | Wizzup | cool! |
| 10:47.25 | L29Ah | will hook 4.1 into n900 after the battery calibrates i guess |
| 10:48.18 | Wizzup | is there a pre-built kernel / way to test it (anything documented)? Also don't mind building it myself, but just wondering |
| 10:49.20 | Wizzup | I have a few N900's lying around that I wouldn't mind using to test some stuff :) |
| 10:51.55 | L29Ah | https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900/source/31fbbf0cb3b3715b93a88ae211c86a7e48775297: seems like the way to go |
| 10:52.44 | KotCzarny | System notice: Gitorious is being acquired by GitLab and gitorious.org will shut down end of May |
| 10:52.44 | L29Ah | http://elinux.org/N900#Kernel_git_repository_for_N900 |
| 10:54.04 | Wizzup | KotCzarny: hence why it moved to github [above link] |
| 10:54.22 | KotCzarny | yes, just said it to l29ah |
| 10:54.39 | KotCzarny | and bencoh said it too |
| 10:54.48 | L29Ah | Wizzup: b-but the github link is about 2.6 |
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| 10:55.00 | L29Ah | oh nvm |
| 10:55.31 | KotCzarny | l29ah: use bencoh's link |
| 10:55.45 | L29Ah | didn't notice there are other branches |
| 10:55.53 | bencoh | :) |
| 10:56.08 | Wizzup | you need to switch branch |
| 10:56.10 | Wizzup | ah,yes. |
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| 10:59.42 | Wizzup | stupid q: I guess it is not possible to charge the n900 in usb host mode? |
| 11:00.02 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 11:00.03 | alifakhruddin | Yep.. True |
| 11:00.40 | Wizzup | Is there a specific reason for that? I can think of a few, but no particular one as to why it would be impossible |
| 11:01.01 | L29Ah | it must be possible |
| 11:01.20 | Wizzup | if you create a frankencable, but then the n900 must accept/charge when in host mode |
| 11:01.43 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 11:01.48 | L29Ah | afair providing 5v to the usb is done via a hack that you can easily disable |
| 11:02.12 | alifakhruddin | Usb host mode has a completely diffrnt activity to it. Iev never exprncd my N900 being charged when connected to that. |
| 11:02.23 | KotCzarny | l29ah: what about chip switching from getting to giving? |
| 11:02.43 | L29Ah | KotCzarny: the battery chip? just disable this functionality |
| 11:03.02 | KotCzarny | i think usb wires go through usb chip first |
| 11:03.11 | Wizzup | you would of course re-write the usb |
| 11:03.13 | Wizzup | cable |
| 11:03.19 | L29Ah | usb chip doesn't care about the power afair |
| 11:03.20 | KotCzarny | which may disable some in/out lines to the rest of the ciruitry |
| 11:03.31 | L29Ah | but i didn't poke host mode yet |
| 11:04.27 | KotCzarny | hehe, droid users stupidly enabling host mode and being unable to charge flat baterries afterwards |
| 11:04.36 | L29Ah | https://bpaste.net/show/48103999e7a3 do i get all the maemo goodness available w/ this setup? |
| 11:04.37 | KotCzarny | google is lots of funnies sometimes |
| 11:05.01 | KotCzarny | enabling extras-devel all the times isnt good idea |
| 11:05.20 | KotCzarny | you should only use it to grab specific packages |
| 11:05.22 | KotCzarny | and only them |
| 11:05.31 | KotCzarny | otherwise you will end up with dependency hell |
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| 11:06.11 | KotCzarny | unless you do some pinning tricks |
| 11:06.46 | L29Ah | k |
| 11:10.08 | KotCzarny | Three additional ID pin states are defined[4] at the nominal resistance values of 124 k\u03a9, 68 k\u03a9, and 36.5 k\u03a9, with respect to the ground pin. These permit the device to work with USB Accessory Charger Adapters that allows the OTG device to be attached to both a charger and another device simultaneously.[6] These three states are used in the cases of: |
| 11:12.15 | KotCzarny | so the cable should have some resistor magic to work |
| 11:12.40 | L29Ah | i doubt n900 looks at the resistors at all |
| 11:12.52 | KotCzarny | if it follows otg spec it must |
| 11:12.58 | L29Ah | sure it doesn't |
| 11:13.13 | L29Ah | host mode is an unofficial hack |
| 11:13.26 | KotCzarny | unofficial from software side |
| 11:13.34 | KotCzarny | but chip has its magic too |
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| 11:22.03 | Wizzup | I think it would be possible (wrt my earlier question) |
| 11:39.02 | L29Ah | mediabox doesn't play my pron |
| 11:39.10 | L29Ah | and oscp plays only the soundtrack of it |
| 11:39.14 | L29Ah | :( |
| 11:39.16 | KotCzarny | click 'vid' button |
| 11:39.27 | KotCzarny | it will enable video part |
| 11:40.10 | KotCzarny | but if gstreamer doesnt know that format it wouldnt |
| 11:40.51 | KotCzarny | but if gstreamer doesnt know that format nothing else would play it (as without dsp code it will be a slideshow) |
| 11:41.32 | L29Ah | i don't see such a button |
| 11:41.39 | KotCzarny | click the grid button |
| 11:41.43 | KotCzarny | it will show more buttons |
| 11:41.55 | KotCzarny | it may be named [V] and not Vid |
| 11:41.56 | L29Ah | i'm in the grid mode |
| 11:42.03 | L29Ah | V:0 thing? |
| 11:42.06 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 11:42.08 | L29Ah | V:1 does nothing |
| 11:42.11 | bencoh | pr0n has a tendancy to be high profile these days ... a bit hard on our poor C64+ dsp :) |
| 11:42.13 | KotCzarny | reclick video? |
| 11:42.24 | bencoh | tendency* |
| 11:42.51 | KotCzarny | bencoh: watching pr0n on c64? |
| 11:42.55 | KotCzarny | hardc0re |
| 11:43.01 | L29Ah | i hanged the core |
| 11:43.19 | KotCzarny | l29ah: be patient? |
| 11:43.46 | KotCzarny | also 'hung' |
| 11:43.50 | KotCzarny | (past tense) |
| 11:43.56 | bencoh | KotCzarny: C64x+ is the omap3 dsp |
| 11:44.11 | KotCzarny | becoh, oh, thought about actual c64 |
| 11:44.18 | bencoh | no, I wasnt talking about CGA pr0n ;p |
| 11:44.47 | L29Ah | how patient should i be? |
| 11:44.55 | KotCzarny | l29ah: check the top |
| 11:45.06 | L29Ah | killed it, restarted, ordered it to play, hanging for a minute |
| 11:45.23 | L29Ah | no one's in top |
| 11:45.39 | KotCzarny | check if stock player plays that file |
| 11:45.45 | L29Ah | it doesn't |
| 11:46.10 | KotCzarny | then you are out of luck |
| 11:46.29 | KotCzarny | unless you can port libav dsp code to gcc4.2 |
| 11:46.30 | L29Ah | 1280x720 h264 is too good huh? |
| 11:46.55 | KotCzarny | more likely unsupported codec |
| 11:47.00 | L29Ah | h264 |
| 11:47.34 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35619 |
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| 11:47.50 | KotCzarny | baseline is supported only, not sure what the bitrate and resolution limits are (although |I think 800x480 H264 baseline will work but 720p will not) |
| 11:48.20 | zamn900 | WHYYYYYY WHYYYY no youtube wtf device support from youtube |
| 11:48.32 | L29Ah | youwhat |
| 11:48.36 | KotCzarny | youtube allows different formats |
| 11:48.42 | KotCzarny | ask for webm |
| 11:48.44 | KotCzarny | or something |
| 11:48.44 | L29Ah | youtube-dl, ask to get the proper size |
| 11:48.45 | zamn900 | shall I definately disinstall cutetube? |
| 11:49.18 | zamn900 | ye I know about youtube-dl but it seems to not work in my n900 |
| 11:49.31 | L29Ah | strange it doesn't |
| 11:49.36 | zamn900 | I supposed that was so normal for all n900 |
| 11:49.43 | zamn900 | doesn'it? |
| 11:50.11 | L29Ah | dunno, never tried to play video on this thing |
| 11:50.18 | zamn900 | lol |
| 11:50.21 | zamn900 | thing? |
| 11:50.38 | L29Ah | The Nokia N900 Internet Tablet |
| 11:50.51 | zamn900 | trows L29Ah out of the maemo ship |
| 11:50.56 | KotCzarny | l29ah: anyway, remember that with v:1 it uses device's gstreamer, and v:0 uses libav and other oscp's builtin libs |
| 11:51.07 | L29Ah | ok |
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| 11:51.44 | zamn900 | this is a meessss btw |
| 11:51.48 | KotCzarny | quite a few people downloaded clips but usually want to just play audio part |
| 11:51.49 | zamn900 | gosh help us |
| 11:52.07 | zamn900 | how can we survive without cutetube |
| 11:52.32 | L29Ah | hang out on irc more |
| 11:52.48 | zamn900 | that's not cool |
| 11:53.10 | L29Ah | install 4.1 and gentoo |
| 11:53.12 | L29Ah | that's cool |
| 11:53.25 | zamn900 | if you wanna be more on irc you haven' to cut off cutetube |
| 11:53.44 | zamn900 | man this sucks |
| 11:54.03 | zamn900 | the world sucks without cutetube |
| 11:54.07 | KotCzarny | l29ah: if you manage to compile libav with dsp code enabled that would work with stock eglibc, let me know |
| 11:54.27 | L29Ah | i doubt i'll get into this |
| 11:54.34 | L29Ah | video playback is too useless |
| 11:54.40 | KotCzarny | useful sometimes |
| 11:55.27 | KotCzarny | or if you manage to compile stable gcc >=4.8 for stock eglibc |
| 11:55.34 | KotCzarny | that would be nice too |
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| 12:13.45 | Vajb | L29Ah: have u tried bnf for battery info? |
| 12:14.46 | L29Ah | bnf is good |
| 12:14.59 | Vajb | yep |
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| 12:15.23 | L29Ah | in-kernel driver is better, tho it sucks by not showing the current power drain |
| 12:15.29 | Vajb | but wasn't mentioned before so i thought u forgot it's existence :) |
| 12:15.49 | Vajb | yeah it's always 5 seconds past |
| 12:15.58 | L29Ah | eh, i mean it doesn't show the power |
| 12:16.03 | L29Ah | only current |
| 12:16.04 | Vajb | but still less than device itself ;) |
| 12:16.20 | L29Ah | i have to product some numbers ;[ |
| 12:16.30 | L29Ah | and twice as much i2c requests |
| 12:16.33 | Vajb | it shows power too |
| 12:16.41 | L29Ah | no |
| 12:16.50 | KotCzarny | l29ah, external powermeter, no other proper way |
| 12:16.59 | KotCzarny | as you will be waking device otherwise |
| 12:17.01 | Vajb | u mean power as wats being used? |
| 12:17.20 | KotCzarny | power is measured in watts |
| 12:17.46 | Vajb | and can be calculated since we know mah and voltage |
| 12:18.39 | KotCzarny | still, you are waking the device |
| 12:18.48 | KotCzarny | and that disrupts the measurement |
| 12:18.53 | L29Ah | i guess crap like hal wake it as well |
| 12:18.58 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 12:19.09 | L29Ah | so a proper monitor doesn't affect much |
| 12:19.22 | KotCzarny | will do |
| 12:19.25 | L29Ah | i.e. not written in bash calling lots of shit |
| 12:19.32 | KotCzarny | because it wont wake the device |
| 12:19.36 | Vajb | i guess bq script in loop mode isn't helping either? |
| 12:19.45 | L29Ah | Vajb: it consumes A LOT |
| 12:19.52 | KotCzarny | is n900's kernel using nohz? |
| 12:20.01 | Vajb | yeah i guess |
| 12:20.17 | KotCzarny | still, doing syscalls is expensive |
| 12:20.18 | L29Ah | no /proc/config.gz ;[ |
| 12:20.31 | Wizzup | fyi, charging with host mode is supported |
| 12:20.35 | Wizzup | apparently :) |
| 12:21.01 | KotCzarny | l29ah: while [ 1 ]; do grep timer /proc/interrupts; sleep 1; done |
| 12:21.22 | KotCzarny | if its constant difference then no nohz |
| 12:21.50 | L29Ah | ~50/s |
| 12:22.10 | KotCzarny | try with wifi off |
| 12:22.11 | L29Ah | s/[ 1 ]/:/ |
| 12:22.16 | L29Ah | OH NO |
| 12:23.37 | Vajb | buy some cheap multimeter and hook it up with ur device hehe |
| 12:24.07 | L29Ah | i have some multimeters but they suck |
| 12:24.10 | KotCzarny | vajb, cheap multimeter wouldnt be so exact in mAh range |
| 12:27.08 | Vajb | oh well |
| 12:28.52 | L29Ah | is it ok i see no style for http://maemo.org/packages/repository/qa/fremantle_extras-testing/ ? |
| 12:29.36 | KotCzarny | refresh? |
| 12:30.09 | L29Ah | no luck |
| 12:30.27 | KotCzarny | adblocking got the style? |
| 12:30.52 | L29Ah | no, looks like the server is down or so |
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| 12:42.10 | L29Ah | static.maemo.org doesn't answer |
| 12:42.36 | KotCzarny | wfm |
| 12:42.49 | L29Ah | checked thru tor, same shit |
| 12:42.56 | KotCzarny | redirected me to :81 tho |
| 12:42.57 | L29Ah | https://static.maemo.org:81/static/b/b201c4d8680611df803c0f60e87c923e923e_ccchh-dooris-widget_icon |
| 12:43.01 | L29Ah | does this open for you? |
| 12:43.12 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 12:44.02 | KotCzarny | http://static.maemo.org:81/static/b/b201c4d8680611df803c0f60e87c923e923e_ccchh-dooris-widget_icon |
| 12:44.09 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 12:44.17 | KotCzarny | somehow i have it loaded tho |
| 12:44.25 | L29Ah | i have https everywhere thing on |
| 12:44.56 | KotCzarny | you know http and https wont work on the same port? |
| 12:45.16 | L29Ah | i don't |
| 12:45.23 | L29Ah | https everywhere devs don't as well it seems |
| 12:45.23 | KotCzarny | anyway, works with http |
| 12:45.25 | L29Ah | k |
| 12:45.32 | L29Ah | i'll file them a bug |
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| 15:48.29 | KotCzarny | http://i.imgur.com/cbSQO.jpg |
| 15:48.35 | KotCzarny | speakers enhancers |
| 15:49.01 | KotCzarny | and most likely it works |
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| 15:53.38 | kerio | LOL |
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| 16:26.34 | scottc | ha |
| 16:26.43 | scottc | bought my new battery, it should arrive this week :) |
| 16:27.05 | KotCzarny | have you checked it was the battery? |
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| 16:41.33 | scottc | KotCzarny: can't confirm since i don't have a spare battery, but it feels a bit swollen and can spin on its side freely like someone suggested |
| 16:41.40 | scottc | so for 3 euro, i will give it a shot |
| 16:41.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:41.56 | KotCzarny | ask anyone on the street |
| 16:42.08 | KotCzarny | tell them that you need to call but your battery is 'flat' |
| 16:42.24 | KotCzarny | and if they have nokia ;) |
| 16:42.30 | scottc | haha |
| 16:42.47 | scottc | i'm living in london (temporarily) now, i imagine i'd be punched |
| 16:43.16 | scottc | sad thing is, i have like 10 spare broken nokia phones at home that family members have given me, i'm sure one would have the right battery |
| 16:44.30 | krbtgt | i know C3-00s use the same battery |
| 16:44.41 | krbtgt | carriers here gave the away basically |
| 16:46.07 | scottc | good to know! |
| 16:46.15 | scottc | where is "here", for reference? |
| 16:46.23 | krbtgt | canada |
| 16:46.31 | scottc | ah |
| 16:53.00 | KotCzarny | getting punched for owning nokia? |
| 16:53.04 | KotCzarny | o.O |
| 16:54.37 | L29Ah | whoa power kernel pulled some u-boot |
| 16:54.54 | L29Ah | but no /etc/bootmenu.d |
| 16:55.08 | KotCzarny | hmm, i have power kernel installed too, wonder if it also installed uboot |
| 16:55.14 | kerio | it didn't |
| 16:55.32 | L29Ah | uboot-power |
| 16:55.36 | L29Ah | what does this do? |
| 16:56.09 | L29Ah | er |
| 16:56.28 | L29Ah | i suck at apt it seems |
| 16:56.34 | L29Ah | how to list all the installed packages? |
| 16:56.40 | kerio | i don't think it's the supported one |
| 16:56.42 | kerio | L29Ah: dpkg -l |
| 16:57.01 | L29Ah | okay no u-boot |
| 17:03.26 | bencoh | please pretty please install uboot :) |
| 17:03.31 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 17:03.42 | KotCzarny | 'if it works, dont break it' ? |
| 17:03.48 | bencoh | nooo |
| 17:04.03 | L29Ah | sure i will |
| 17:04.14 | L29Ah | after the battery runs out ;[ |
| 17:04.28 | L29Ah | a week left or so |
| 17:04.35 | bencoh | calibrating ? |
| 17:04.38 | L29Ah | yep |
| 17:04.43 | KotCzarny | launch video in the background |
| 17:04.46 | KotCzarny | on the loop |
| 17:04.52 | KotCzarny | should be a quickie |
| 17:05.13 | L29Ah | nah it's too wasteful ;) |
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