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| 08:33.02 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: oscp is great. |
| 08:33.42 | princefakhan | I have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the video playing. this does it. |
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| 08:41.07 | KotCzarny | princefakhan: if you ever want to enable video play too its under 'v' button |
| 08:41.37 | KotCzarny | also, there is a lots of features and configurability options, so explore and have fun |
| 08:42.26 | KotCzarny | also, you might want to grab oscp from extras-devel, as its a bit newer and has few bugs squashed |
| 08:43.17 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: I believe its from the extras-devel. I have it always enabled. |
| 08:43.25 | KotCzarny | ok |
| 08:43.36 | princefakhan | the UI is not very informative for me though. |
| 08:43.42 | Sicelo | I have a lotta music videos. but don't want to keep the video playing. this does it |
| 08:43.50 | Sicelo | what does that mean? |
| 08:44.01 | KotCzarny | that it has a feture to play only audio |
| 08:44.05 | princefakhan | but I guess I will get around it after some time. |
| 08:44.05 | KotCzarny | and that he likes it |
| 08:44.17 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: :) |
| 08:44.20 | Sicelo | the first part.. |
| 08:44.28 | KotCzarny | princefakhan: read the quick help, it answers most faq |
| 08:44.53 | KotCzarny | sicelo: that he has many video clips |
| 08:44.58 | princefakhan | uh! okay. but I read it. the one that comes on first opening the app. |
| 08:45.28 | KotCzarny | princefakhan: good, also you might want to read the oscp thread on tmo, as there is also few bits of information and tips |
| 08:46.02 | princefakhan | sure. when the need arises. that's the place to look for. |
| 08:46.13 | Sicelo | trying to play only the audio track out of a video? |
| 08:46.35 | princefakhan | Kotczarny |
| 08:46.42 | KotCzarny | sicelo: yes |
| 08:46.52 | KotCzarny | and not trying, doing it |
| 08:47.05 | princefakhan | I would like to know though. It is actually only playing audio. |
| 08:47.23 | princefakhan | or the video runs too in the background. |
| 08:47.45 | KotCzarny | its only playing audio |
| 08:48.06 | KotCzarny | if you enable vid play it plays the file through system's gstreamer |
| 08:48.07 | princefakhan | ahh! so it uses less battery. right. |
| 08:48.17 | princefakhan | oh! Smart. |
| 08:48.44 | Sicelo | ok |
| 08:49.02 | KotCzarny | princefakhan: for even more battery performance you can close the gui, it will keep on playing in the background |
| 08:49.26 | KotCzarny | and you can always start gui and it will reconnect to core |
| 08:49.29 | princefakhan | looks like I didn't read the faq after all. xD |
| 08:49.52 | princefakhan | Now I see why there has been so much praise for your work. |
| 08:50.09 | KotCzarny | i like the part 'now i see why' |
| 08:50.34 | princefakhan | hehe. :) |
| 08:51.21 | KotCzarny | to encourage others please use it for a while and post the experience/thoughts at the tmo thread |
| 08:51.28 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 |
| 08:51.30 | KotCzarny | this one |
| 08:51.37 | princefakhan | Yeah I know. |
| 08:52.00 | princefakhan | will do. once I have get around it. |
| 08:52.04 | KotCzarny | thanks |
| 08:52.08 | princefakhan | :D |
| 08:52.11 | Sicelo | :) |
| 08:52.44 | bencoh | KotCzarny: wait, so you use gstreamer in the end ? |
| 08:52.56 | KotCzarny | bencoh: only when video play is enabled |
| 08:53.07 | bencoh | okay |
| 08:53.11 | KotCzarny | if its disabled i play through libav decoder |
| 08:53.39 | KotCzarny | which is nice because it supports many more formats |
| 08:54.00 | KotCzarny | and you can actually play audio tracks of videos unknown to gst |
| 08:54.08 | princefakhan | you can use mplayer too i huess. |
| 08:54.17 | KotCzarny | oscp started as a mplayer gui |
| 08:54.19 | princefakhan | I remember that bit from the faq |
| 08:54.28 | KotCzarny | but decided its better to use lib directly |
| 08:54.46 | KotCzarny | yes, on anything other than n900 mplayer is used for video play |
| 08:55.08 | princefakhan | hmmm. |
| 08:55.26 | KotCzarny | yes, it works on linux pcs too |
| 08:55.27 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 08:55.37 | Sicelo | mplayer works on N900, doesn't it |
| 08:55.39 | KotCzarny | and you can control oscp-core on pc from n900's oscp-remote |
| 08:55.48 | KotCzarny | sicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding |
| 08:55.52 | KotCzarny | so.. slow |
| 08:55.59 | Sicelo | i know that |
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| 08:56.11 | princefakhan | I saw that. I can play my pc files on my device if I have the pc version. |
| 08:56.23 | KotCzarny | princefakhan: it can work other way too |
| 08:56.33 | KotCzarny | ie. you can connect n900 to stereo system and control via pc |
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| 08:56.41 | princefakhan | yeah. one more thing. is it on windows. |
| 08:56.53 | KotCzarny | oscp-remote.py will work on windows |
| 08:57.04 | KotCzarny | i havent gotten around to compile recent oscp-core in cygwin tho |
| 08:57.15 | princefakhan | :) |
| 08:57.24 | KotCzarny | too lazy to boot windows ;) |
| 08:57.28 | princefakhan | hehe. |
| 09:02.00 | princefakhan | opens tmo to see if there is some new activity |
| 09:06.29 | scottc | huh, my n900 isn't turning on anymore |
| 09:06.49 | svetlana | @.@) |
| 09:06.50 | scottc | it just stays on the "nokia" screen with a very low backlight |
| 09:06.57 | svetlana | maybe battery? |
| 09:07.02 | princefakhan | the first question that comes to mind: is it charged? |
| 09:07.08 | svetlana | :-) |
| 09:07.14 | scottc | i charged it overnight, so that should be fine |
| 09:07.21 | princefakhan | hmmm |
| 09:07.47 | princefakhan | how did it turn off. what was the last thing u did |
| 09:08.01 | scottc | maybe my cable or charger is faulty, i'll try another later today |
| 09:08.28 | scottc | i just held the power key to turn it off last |
| 09:08.29 | bencoh | scottc: solid green led ? |
| 09:08.34 | Sicelo | if charged overnight, did you find it with "green" led pattern in the morning? |
| 09:08.50 | scottc | I don't see any LED now |
| 09:08.53 | KotCzarny | chargers die |
| 09:08.55 | princefakhan | exactly what I was to ask. |
| 09:08.57 | scottc | maybe the charger just is faulty |
| 09:09.03 | KotCzarny | remove the battery |
| 09:09.10 | KotCzarny | wait 5s, reinsert, connect charger |
| 09:09.13 | KotCzarny | wait for green |
| 09:09.55 | Sicelo | scottc: what pattern did you find when you unhooked device from charger? :) |
| 09:10.35 | scottc | just now: inserted the charger, an amber LED appeared, 5 seconds after the low-light "nokia" screen appeared and the LED turned off |
| 09:10.43 | scottc | the LED is pulsing now, which i don't think happened last night |
| 09:10.44 | KotCzarny | wait |
| 09:10.50 | KotCzarny | for green |
| 09:10.56 | scottc | alright |
| 09:11.14 | scottc | this is a different charger to last night, at least |
| 09:11.26 | princefakhan | if the led wasnt pulsing. it wasnt charging. |
| 09:11.30 | svetlana | you have two different chargers? |
| 09:11.48 | scottc | yeah svetlana, I was using my "primary" one for my Jolla since it's my main phone |
| 09:11.54 | scottc | needs 4g for work |
| 09:12.06 | KotCzarny | chinese unbranded one overnight? |
| 09:12.10 | KotCzarny | they die |
| 09:12.12 | KotCzarny | often |
| 09:12.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:12.16 | svetlana | thats sexist ;) |
| 09:12.22 | svetlana | or racist i mean |
| 09:12.24 | svetlana | i need more sleep |
| 09:12.28 | scottc | KotCzarny: sony-ericsson "eco" one overnight! |
| 09:12.33 | scottc | but a chinese cable |
| 09:12.33 | svetlana | but yes, i've had some like this, it fall apart |
| 09:12.38 | svetlana | ooo |
| 09:12.52 | KotCzarny | maybe it was too eco |
| 09:12.55 | KotCzarny | self destroyed |
| 09:12.56 | bencoh | haa |
| 09:12.58 | scottc | haha |
| 09:13.02 | svetlana | :D |
| 09:13.11 | scottc | by "eco" I think they mean 0.2 amps |
| 09:13.23 | bencoh | 0.2A ? |
| 09:13.26 | scottc | vs. the Nexus 4 charger I'm using now which is 1 or 2A |
| 09:13.28 | scottc | yes |
| 09:13.36 | bencoh | that's ... nothing |
| 09:13.41 | scottc | yep... |
| 09:13.58 | bencoh | how would you expect to charge ... or even keep a device alive with screen on with that ? |
| 09:14.11 | scottc | it's charged my androids fine in the past :) |
| 09:14.21 | princefakhan | I have a portable charger. It has two ports. one is 1 amp the other is 2.1 |
| 09:14.28 | princefakhan | I use the second one. |
| 09:14.35 | bencoh | scottc: it's probably not 0.2A max then |
| 09:14.51 | scottc | princefakhan: is it bright coloured and rectangular with curved edges? i have one too! |
| 09:14.58 | scottc | bencoh: aha, perhaps |
| 09:15.15 | princefakhan | scottc: what is? |
| 09:15.32 | scottc | portable charger |
| 09:15.55 | princefakhan | its white actually. frome ambrane |
| 09:16.02 | princefakhan | looks chinese to me. |
| 09:16.11 | scottc | ah |
| 09:16.15 | scottc | mine is unbranded, chinese |
| 09:16.20 | princefakhan | but is 10400 mAh. |
| 09:16.35 | princefakhan | and I got it very cheap in a deal. |
| 09:16.41 | princefakhan | works fine. |
| 09:17.10 | princefakhan | question: is there a diff b/w portable charger and power bank |
| 09:17.23 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 09:17.36 | KotCzarny | one has battery inside, and doesnt |
| 09:17.44 | princefakhan | scottc: it is rectangular with round edges though. xD |
| 09:17.47 | KotCzarny | s/and/and one/ |
| 09:18.04 | princefakhan | mine is power bank then. |
| 09:18.30 | princefakhan | i thought they were the same thing |
| 09:18.37 | scottc | princefakhan: probably the same OEM, or the person that sells mine stole it from the factory where yours is made :D |
| 09:19.42 | scottc | i use "portable charger" and "power bank" interchangably |
| 09:20.02 | KotCzarny | portable charger is usually regular charger but smaller |
| 09:20.24 | princefakhan | don't know where it has been made. but is marketed by Ambrane India. |
| 09:20.42 | KotCzarny | you would have to open it and compare innards |
| 09:20.46 | princefakhan | scottc: I have been too until now. |
| 09:21.45 | princefakhan | I think this is made in India. |
| 09:22.56 | princefakhan | oh! its somewhat of a top of the line electonics company. |
| 09:28.00 | princefakhan | Kotczarny: if you could just add one more feature to oscp. |
| 09:28.39 | princefakhan | play next file in the playlist after pressing headphone button. |
| 09:29.06 | KotCzarny | its already done |
| 09:29.19 | princefakhan | doesn't work on mine. |
| 09:29.33 | KotCzarny | does it do anything when you press the button? pause maybe? |
| 09:29.43 | princefakhan | oh it works. yes. |
| 09:29.52 | princefakhan | only when it is open |
| 09:30.03 | KotCzarny | then you would have to edit oscp-remote.py and change pause to next |
| 09:30.07 | KotCzarny | let me check the line |
| 09:31.00 | KotCzarny | ahm, right, its already set to next |
| 09:31.14 | KotCzarny | yeah, i detect dbus button events in gui for now |
| 09:31.38 | KotCzarny | started writing the code into core but didnt commit yet |
| 09:32.37 | princefakhan | hmmm. so we can see this feature working in the background in the next update maybe. |
| 09:32.48 | KotCzarny | most likely |
| 09:32.53 | princefakhan | :) |
| 09:32.57 | princefakhan | great! |
| 09:33.02 | KotCzarny | but i have to think about how to resolve double press events |
| 09:33.11 | KotCzarny | because both core and remote will detect the button |
| 09:34.14 | princefakhan | but remote runs on top of remote I guess |
| 09:34.34 | princefakhan | so only one of them must be registering the buttons. |
| 09:35.51 | princefakhan | *remote runs on top of core. |
| 09:40.11 | KotCzarny | you might say that |
| 09:40.33 | KotCzarny | core is the part that plays and manages files, remote is the gui and user interaction |
| 09:42.12 | princefakhan | so which one them handles the button presses. |
| 09:42.30 | KotCzarny | gui |
| 09:42.41 | KotCzarny | and sends info about those events to the core |
| 09:43.27 | princefakhan | so should it be a problem. that means its not double presses. |
| 09:44.03 | princefakhan | this doesn't happen with the keyboard buttons. |
| 09:44.43 | KotCzarny | but for core to react with gui closed? |
| 09:45.06 | princefakhan | ahh! |
| 09:47.18 | princefakhan | can you not register the headphone buttons to core only. |
| 09:47.33 | princefakhan | since remote is closed. |
| 09:48.12 | KotCzarny | yes, but as i said, i have to think how to resolve it with the gui |
| 09:48.32 | KotCzarny | because sometimes you might have gui opened on the same device, and sometimes on different |
| 09:48.52 | princefakhan | ooh! |
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| 09:50.07 | princefakhan | well you can revoke headphone button presses from the gui and map it only to the core. |
| 09:50.44 | princefakhan | so it can work on the same device atleast. |
| 09:50.45 | KotCzarny | yes, but as i said, i have to think how it would be most convenient for me to code it |
| 09:51.10 | princefakhan | ahh! well I don't have any ideas for coding. |
| 09:51.16 | princefakhan | :) |
| 09:51.38 | KotCzarny | no worries |
| 09:51.44 | princefakhan | :D |
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| 10:39.43 | princefakhan | hello |
| 10:39.56 | princefakhan | moin means hello, right? |
| 10:40.25 | zGrr | correct :) |
| 10:40.32 | princefakhan | :) |
| 10:40.46 | zGrr | princefakhan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin |
| 10:41.11 | princefakhan | I looked up urbandictionary, just now. |
| 10:41.20 | princefakhan | xD |
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| 13:08.32 | grammoboy | ~flasher |
| 13:08.32 | infobot | well, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 13:10.46 | grammoboy | ~tabletsdev |
| 13:10.46 | infobot | well, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads |
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| 13:12.29 | grammoboy | ~combined |
| 13:12.29 | infobot | i guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 13:13.12 | grammoboy | ~emmc |
| 13:13.12 | infobot | rumour has it, emmc is is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 |
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| 14:35.05 | jaap | ~flasher |
| 14:35.05 | infobot | from memory, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
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| 14:38.39 | jaap | ~emmc |
| 14:38.39 | infobot | [emmc] is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 |
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| 14:47.13 | jaap | ~tabletdev |
| 14:47.18 | jaap | ~tabletsdev |
| 14:47.18 | infobot | [tabletsdev] http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads |
| 14:47.38 | jaap | ~combined |
| 14:47.38 | infobot | i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
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| 15:08.46 | pigeons | hit and run |
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| 15:12.47 | L29Ah | [11:55:49]<KotCzarny> sicelo: but doesnt use dsp for decoding |
| 15:12.47 | L29Ah | i wonder why wasn't it patched instead |
| 15:31.34 | slapin_ | hi, all! |
| 15:31.53 | slapin_ | where can I get up to date tzdata for n900? |
| 15:32.06 | L29Ah | :3 |
| 15:32.17 | stryngs | compile it slapin_ |
| 15:32.50 | slapin_ | also, will n900 charger be able to charge 2 18650 batteries? any projects available? |
| 15:32.56 | L29Ah | i can package you the compiled one from my n900 gentoo |
| 15:33.24 | slapin_ | L29Ah: is it compatible with n900 stock glibc? |
| 15:33.32 | L29Ah | slapin_: i attached 2 18650s and it stopped charging, dunno why |
| 15:33.44 | L29Ah | dunno |
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| 15:33.47 | slapin_ | L29Ah: I think not as it is pre-eglibc tzdata which is arch-dependant... |
| 15:34.45 | L29Ah | but there's a guy on the forum who attached them and it worked |
| 15:34.55 | L29Ah | considers reflashing his beast |
| 15:35.08 | slapin_ | is there some instructions on building of tzdata and setting-up scratchbox environment for n900? |
| 15:37.36 | slapin_ | L29Ah: can you link me to the post on forum? |
| 15:38.23 | slapin_ | I think batteries should be synchrinized before attaching them, or special charger should be used |
| 15:42.19 | L29Ah | googleable |
| 15:42.36 | L29Ah | i did synchronize, also an external charger works fine |
| 15:43.05 | L29Ah | and the voltage and current sensing of n900 work well |
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| 15:49.42 | L29Ah | ntpd doesn't want to resync my clock after a reset due to power loss :( |
| 15:49.58 | kerio | use ntpd -q |
| 15:50.09 | L29Ah | ntpd: invalid option -- q |
| 15:50.13 | KotCzarny | killntpd with fire |
| 15:50.17 | KotCzarny | use ntpdate |
| 15:50.39 | slapin_ | you can run ntpd as normal |
| 15:50.43 | L29Ah | i want it work /automagically/ |
| 15:50.47 | L29Ah | i guess i'm on my own |
| 15:50.57 | slapin_ | run ntpdate -u -s pool.ntp.org once |
| 15:51.07 | L29Ah | > by hand |
| 15:51.10 | slapin_ | then ntpd will pick up |
| 15:51.25 | slapin_ | you don't need to restart it or anything |
| 15:51.28 | L29Ah | also is there a gps time sync sw? |
| 15:51.53 | slapin_ | L29Ah: if it is possible to run gpsd somehow, then it is good old ntpd |
| 15:52.13 | L29Ah | E: Couldn't find package ntpdate |
| 15:52.26 | KotCzarny | just grab debians armel package and unpack ntpdate binary |
| 15:52.33 | KotCzarny | wfm |
| 15:52.51 | slapin_ | L29Ah: IIRC it was available somewhere |
| 15:53.23 | L29Ah | nvm, asked my gentoo chroot to compile it |
| 15:54.18 | KotCzarny | what glibc are you using in your chroot? |
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| 16:10.31 | bencoh | L29Ah: do you run ntpd on n900 ? |
| 16:11.04 | lobito | cant see talk.maemo.org via tor :( |
| 16:11.06 | lobito | "Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist." |
| 16:11.25 | lobito | nor using anonymouse.org proxy either |
| 16:11.45 | L29Ah | now it's 2.19, going to update to 2.20 someday after setting up cross-compiling env |
| 16:11.57 | bencoh | lobito: antispam policy I guess |
| 16:12.48 | L29Ah | bencoh: yep |
| 16:12.48 | lobito | yeah |
| 16:12.48 | lobito | that's one thing |
| 16:12.48 | lobito | now i can't reach it directly either |
| 16:12.48 | lobito | but it doesn't show the notice |
| 16:12.48 | lobito | browser says "could not connect" |
| 16:12.54 | lobito | i'll try a traceroute, see what i get |
| 16:13.03 | L29Ah | it's sad that it fights spam by blocking even read-only access |
| 16:14.07 | bencoh | L29Ah: indeed |
| 16:14.28 | KotCzarny | is ntpd power conscious? |
| 16:14.32 | L29Ah | dunno |
| 16:14.36 | L29Ah | but it seems like |
| 16:15.00 | lobito | this is weird: |
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| 16:15.06 | lobito | lobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ traceroute talk.maemo.org |
| 16:15.06 | lobito | traceroute to talk.maemo.org (213.128.137.28), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets |
| 16:15.06 | lobito | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.09 | bencoh | I'm pretty sure ntpd keeps the cpu awake |
| 16:15.13 | lobito | it stops there :/ |
| 16:15.21 | KotCzarny | l29ah, if you can attach powermeter between battery and device? |
| 16:15.27 | bencoh | lobito: try mtr |
| 16:15.29 | L29Ah | why would i? |
| 16:15.50 | KotCzarny | to check if it draws significiantly more power |
| 16:16.05 | L29Ah | i've measured current w/ n900, it doesn't make any noticeable difference |
| 16:16.26 | L29Ah | via the internal current sensing circurity |
| 16:16.34 | KotCzarny | but you measure finite amperage |
| 16:16.41 | L29Ah | huh? |
| 16:16.47 | KotCzarny | and power meter would let you check in 10-30minutes |
| 16:16.54 | L29Ah | ah |
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| 16:17.10 | KotCzarny | without waking up the device |
| 16:17.10 | L29Ah | anyway i trashed it |
| 16:17.24 | L29Ah | as the only use case for it is syncing after a power loss |
| 16:17.40 | KotCzarny | my n900 is almost exacly 1 minute off in 30 days |
| 16:18.09 | KotCzarny | thats what i see from checking every few days with ntpdate and writing log |
| 16:18.31 | bencoh | it's much more than that here |
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| 16:38.30 | lobito | mtr says: |
| 16:38.41 | lobito | last 132 pings |
| 16:38.42 | lobito | Scale: .:984 ms 1:937 ms 2:859 ms 3:749 ms a:609 ms b:437 ms c:234 ms |
| 16:40.19 | lobito | lobito@edubuntu:~/Desktop$ ping talk.maemo.org |
| 16:40.19 | lobito | PING talk.maemo.org (213.128.137.28) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:40.20 | lobito | From edubuntu.lan (192.168.1.102) icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable |
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| 17:14.03 | lobito | help? can't reach talk.maemo.org :< |
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| 17:22.04 | L29Ah | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.04 | L29Ah | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.05 | L29Ah | mkay |
| 17:22.13 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 17:22.26 | KotCzarny | aiming high? |
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| 17:27.07 | princefakhan | wtf, xchat keeps crashing |
| 17:28.11 | KotCzarny | run from terminal |
| 17:28.16 | KotCzarny | maybe it will print something |
| 17:28.36 | princefakhan | oh! okay |
| 17:29.04 | princefakhan | can we have two instances though or do I have to logiut from this client |
| 17:29.14 | KotCzarny | yes you can |
| 17:37.54 | scottc | hello again |
| 17:38.20 | scottc | left my N900 charging since this morning and it's still pulsing amber! uh-oh |
| 17:38.36 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 17:38.42 | scottc | i'm pretty sure it was like this when I got it originally, and it resolved itself after 2-3 hours of charging |
| 17:38.46 | scottc | but yeah, weird |
| 17:38.53 | KotCzarny | disconnect |
| 17:39.00 | KotCzarny | check if battery is physically ok |
| 17:39.05 | krbtgt_ | the batteries are everywhere for them anyways |
| 17:39.07 | KotCzarny | then reconnect and try booting |
| 17:39.15 | scottc | the battery seems fine |
| 17:39.16 | krbtgt_ | so if your battery is fscked, it's not much to replace |
| 17:39.28 | scottc | though i do keep it held in with a piece of sellotape :D |
| 17:39.30 | krbtgt_ | (nokia still uses the same battery on modern phones) |
| 17:39.32 | KotCzarny | krbtgt_: yeah, but if it splodes in his face, he wouldnt get replacement so easy |
| 17:39.40 | krbtgt_ | well it'd bulge likely |
| 17:39.49 | krbtgt_ | in which case he'd need to dispose it ASAP |
| 17:39.58 | KotCzarny | krbtgt_: that's why i suggested physical examination |
| 17:40.04 | scottc | ejects it out the window |
| 17:40.06 | KotCzarny | scottc: check it from both sides |
| 17:40.21 | scottc | no obvious bulging |
| 17:40.50 | KotCzarny | is it cold or hot? |
| 17:40.52 | krbtgt_ | to check for builging spin it around |
| 17:41.00 | krbtgt_ | if it rotates with ease then it is bulging |
| 17:41.21 | scottc | haha, might be it |
| 17:41.22 | scottc | it's cold |
| 17:41.38 | scottc | it spins fairly well too |
| 17:41.47 | scottc | battery's probably just fooked |
| 17:41.51 | KotCzarny | it's dead jim |
| 17:42.02 | KotCzarny | but try booting anyway |
| 17:42.04 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:42.05 | scottc | I'm a doctor, not an electrician! |
| 17:42.18 | scottc | no luck |
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| 17:42.59 | princefakhan | ah! its segfaulting. |
| 17:43.33 | princefakhan | I dunno whats segfault tho. its something bad from what I have learned so far. |
| 17:43.45 | KotCzarny | segfault is when program is corrupted in some way |
| 17:43.52 | KotCzarny | either by a bug or external |
| 17:44.04 | KotCzarny | and system kills it |
| 17:44.07 | princefakhan | ahh! I'm talking about xchat guys. it crashes. |
| 17:44.18 | scottc | people always complain about segfaults when coding C, but I think it's better to get a segfault than to not have memory segmentation at all :P |
| 17:44.22 | KotCzarny | (that's simplification but it's close) |
| 17:44.25 | krbtgt_ | i'm curious if the N900 can handle the higher capacity version of the BL-5J seen in the new lumias though |
| 17:44.39 | scottc | krbtgt_: i will order one and let you know :D |
| 17:44.45 | KotCzarny | krbtgt_: n900 can handle any battery you can fit |
| 17:44.52 | krbtgt_ | that's nice |
| 17:44.54 | KotCzarny | mugen sells 2500 one i think |
| 17:44.55 | scottc | i don't have a permanent address where i'm staying right now so i might have to wait |
| 17:45.00 | krbtgt_ | i have a Lumia 520 here with the high capacity one |
| 17:45.00 | princefakhan | N900 can handle anhything yo throw at it |
| 17:45.01 | KotCzarny | but its wider |
| 17:45.11 | KotCzarny | liions charge the same |
| 17:45.23 | KotCzarny | some are rated for lower amperage, some for higher tho |
| 17:45.28 | KotCzarny | but li-ion is a li-ion |
| 17:45.58 | KotCzarny | go to shop and try it for a size |
| 17:46.46 | scottc | buying a battery in a shop? sounds like a nice way to get ripped off :P |
| 17:46.56 | scottc | i'll get one on ebay or allegro.pl |
| 17:48.23 | KotCzarny | scottc, im not suggesting buying it, just physically fitting |
| 17:48.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:48.47 | scottc | right right |
| 17:49.27 | KotCzarny | sometimes one has to get ripped off when in a hurry (i got minijack extender for ~6eur...) |
| 17:49.40 | KotCzarny | mediamarkt, nie dla idiotow |
| 17:49.41 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 17:50.01 | KotCzarny | but it was the only shop open nearby i needed the cable asap |
| 17:50.26 | KotCzarny | for a comparison, similar cable online is 0.5-1eur |
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| 17:56.02 | scottc | hah yeah, mediamarkt is insane |
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| 18:21.38 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 18:21.56 | princefakhan | yo infobot |
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| 19:08.22 | princefakhan | ~infobot |
| 19:08.31 | infobot | well, infobot is A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command! |
| 19:09.04 | princefakhan | ~commands |
| 19:09.12 | KotCzarny | ~doabarrelroll |
| 19:09.27 | KotCzarny | broken |
| 19:09.38 | princefakhan | how do I know what commands can I give him |
| 19:09.47 | KotCzarny | ~help |
| 19:09.53 | KotCzarny | type ~help |
| 19:10.12 | princefakhan | ~help |
| 19:11.13 | princefakhan | :) |
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| 19:23.37 | princefakhan | anyone on freenode can msg infobot right |
| 19:24.32 | princefakhan | or does he need to be in a chan where infobot is too |
| 19:25.22 | KotCzarny | he is made by one of maemo members |
| 19:25.33 | KotCzarny | ie. not a freenode staff creation |
| 19:26.12 | princefakhan | but if you want to /msg someone does he need to be in the same chan as you |
| 19:26.24 | KotCzarny | dont know, most likely |
| 19:26.45 | princefakhan | hmmm. |
| 19:29.00 | L29Ah | he doesn't |
| 19:29.09 | L29Ah | everyone can msg everyone else in an irc net |
| 19:29.37 | KotCzarny | but he may be programmed to answer only to those on the same channels |
| 19:29.56 | princefakhan | hmmm. and how is he programmed. |
| 19:30.10 | KotCzarny | do a test |
| 19:30.23 | princefakhan | I am. |
| 19:30.53 | princefakhan | just dunno many channels |
| 19:31.00 | KotCzarny | start new xchat |
| 19:31.04 | KotCzarny | dont join any channel |
| 19:31.06 | KotCzarny | msg the bot |
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| 19:31.24 | princefakhan | oh right. I don't have to join a chan. my bad |
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| 20:46.27 | princefakhan | nick princefakhan_ |
| 20:46.44 | krbtgt_ | msg nickserv identify hunter2 |
| 20:46.51 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 20:47.04 | princefakhan_ | why would I do that? |
| 20:47.15 | Sicelo | change your pass krbtgt_ |
| 20:47.42 | krbtgt_ | doesn't it display as stars to you? |
| 20:47.47 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 20:47.54 | KotCzarny | <krbtgt_> msg nickserv identify hunter2 |
| 20:48.23 | princefakhan_ | he missed slash |
| 20:48.26 | princefakhan_ | like me |
| 20:48.34 | KotCzarny | slash time |
| 20:48.46 | L29Ah | i read your message |
| 20:48.47 | princefakhan_ | lol |
| 20:48.49 | L29Ah | and your |
| 20:49.13 | krbtgt_ | http://bash.org/?244321 |
| 20:49.38 | Sicelo | haha |
| 20:49.43 | Sicelo | you fell for it? |
| 20:49.53 | KotCzarny | i guess you might need non-hacker ecosystem for that |
| 20:52.16 | Sicelo | hehe, i see you krbtgt_ :p |
| 20:53.08 | princefakhan_ | lol! wth. |
| 20:53.40 | princefakhan_ | is this just a joke. |
| 20:53.48 | Sicelo | yeah, haha |
| 20:54.05 | princefakhan_ | oh! looked real enough. |
| 20:54.22 | KotCzarny | real, but missed the joke |
| 20:54.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:54.44 | princefakhan_ | nah! I didn't. |
| 20:57.36 | princefakhan_ | motors over to tmo |
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| 21:04.15 | princefakhan_ | you guys following the yappari thread |
| 21:04.19 | princefakhan_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94465 |
| 21:05.08 | L29Ah | looks useless |
| 21:05.30 | princefakhan_ | huh! a lotta people use it. |
| 21:06.10 | Sicelo | not by choice, some of us |
| 21:06.17 | L29Ah | mobile-only messenger |
| 21:06.24 | L29Ah | must be a bunch of masochists |
| 21:06.37 | Sicelo | and i don't like the proposed icon princefakhan_ :p |
| 21:07.19 | princefakhan_ | Sicelo: i like it. |
| 21:07.47 | princefakhan_ | ofc, u see that. I'm way too excited about that. |
| 21:07.54 | Sicelo | yeah, haha :) |
| 21:08.40 | princefakhan_ | :D |
| 21:10.01 | princefakhan_ | UI change could be good though. |
| 21:10.11 | princefakhan_ | if it reduces the lag |
| 21:10.29 | Sicelo | super-imposing time stamp on profile pic? um.. |
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| 21:13.51 | princefakhan_ | :D |
| 21:14.57 | princefakhan_ | yawns |
| 21:15.06 | princefakhan_ | gonna sleep now. bye guys |
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| 22:23.08 | bencoh | us not appreciating whatsapp/facebook/the-like, yappari still is one of the great projects that help quite a few people stick with their n900 :) |
| 22:25.44 | L29Ah | chmod a-w FCamera/ saved me from wasting my emmc on raws while jpegs are still generated :3 |
| 22:27.39 | bencoh | erm |
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| 22:50.31 | L29Ah | damn how to use teh flashlight w/ fcamera installed? |
| 22:51.05 | bencoh | you cant |
| 22:51.23 | bencoh | well you can force it with some /sys entry ... iirc |
| 22:51.54 | bencoh | but if you really want to use the flashlight with a fcam-power app, try rawcam |
| 22:52.10 | bencoh | it's more or less a fcamera rewrite |
| 22:55.45 | L29Ah | it's not in /leds/ sysfs entry |
| 22:55.58 | L29Ah | ok i'll try rawcam |
| 22:58.44 | L29Ah | E: Package strace has no installation candidate |
| 22:58.49 | L29Ah | maemo is unuzbl! |
| 22:59.49 | bencoh | uh what ? I have strace |
| 23:00.01 | L29Ah | where did you get it from? |
| 23:01.17 | bencoh | apt-cache policy says repository.maemo.org |
| 23:01.38 | bencoh | http://maemo.org/packages/view/strace/ |
| 23:03.00 | bencoh | probably extras-devel |
| 23:03.10 | L29Ah | i have extras-devel |
| 23:04.02 | L29Ah | W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got ) |
| 23:04.02 | L29Ah | i wonder what does this mean |
| 23:04.36 | bencoh | hmm |
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