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| 07:08.01 | pentanol | hi there |
| 07:08.17 | pentanol | could someone suggest app for image viewing? |
| 07:09.01 | pentanol | I need make pictures bigger sometimes when I look on it and default app can't make this. |
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| 07:43.49 | sixwheeledbeast | Is there much call for an image viewer on Maemo? Sounds like a nice little project for someone. |
| 07:44.40 | KotCzarny | i have one, but unreleased |
| 07:45.02 | KotCzarny | can view png,jpg,gif(animated),bmp,xpm,pdf etc |
| 07:45.15 | KotCzarny | as usual, fast and convenient |
| 07:45.30 | KotCzarny | and low on dependencies |
| 07:51.32 | KotCzarny | and tiff |
| 07:51.51 | KotCzarny | and most likely any other format if i ever need one |
| 08:01.34 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: FOSS? |
| 08:02.42 | sixwheeledbeast | If there's a good one in the repos I won't look into a Qt one. |
| 08:02.51 | Wizzup | feh? ;) |
| 08:03.16 | KotCzarny | swb: free, yes, but havent' decided if oss |
| 08:03.36 | Wizzup | not sure if it is worth mentioning then ;) |
| 08:03.40 | KotCzarny | and no qt/gtk dep |
| 08:03.51 | KotCzarny | wizzup, have you tried my oscp player? |
| 08:05.03 | KotCzarny | i wrote one because no other player was able to do everything i needed media player to do |
| 08:05.06 | KotCzarny | and the way i wanted |
| 08:05.14 | KotCzarny | same story with that pic viewer |
| 08:06.11 | Wizzup | I only install (f)oss, so ind if it is, but I probably didn't |
| 08:06.20 | Wizzup | I don't use my n900 vor animated media |
| 08:06.23 | Wizzup | for* |
| 08:06.33 | KotCzarny | wizzup, yeah, tell me about your foss device drivers |
| 08:07.25 | KotCzarny | wizzup, everyone who tried oscp liked it |
| 08:07.49 | Wizzup | that is irrelevant, I don't need it |
| 08:08.09 | KotCzarny | just saying about 'worth mentioning' argument |
| 08:08.29 | Wizzup | if it is not foss, I am not interested |
| 08:08.44 | Wizzup | that some drivers are currently closed is not relevant either |
| 08:08.48 | KotCzarny | yeah, but as i said, your device contains closed binaries anyway |
| 08:09.08 | KotCzarny | its either 100% foss or is irrelevant |
| 08:09.17 | Wizzup | not at all |
| 08:09.32 | Wizzup | that's quite black-and-white |
| 08:09.33 | KotCzarny | and even then, silicon can have 'bugs' |
| 08:09.45 | Wizzup | so? |
| 08:09.51 | KotCzarny | so your argument is invalid |
| 08:10.05 | Wizzup | my argument is being twisted into oblivion by you |
| 08:10.14 | KotCzarny | not at all |
| 08:10.18 | Wizzup | lmao |
| 08:10.18 | bencoh | KotCzarny: closed "core"/base blobs vs closed third-party apps |
| 08:10.21 | Wizzup | have a good day |
| 08:10.22 | KotCzarny | you cant have 99.9% foss |
| 08:10.48 | KotCzarny | it's either 100% or your device (might be|is) already owned |
| 08:11.07 | Wizzup | This has nothing to do with owned |
| 08:11.16 | Wizzup | point in case, misrepresenting my argument |
| 08:11.41 | Wizzup | my device is already owned by the shm closed modem |
| 08:11.43 | KotCzarny | point in case of being too vague in argumenting |
| 08:11.49 | Wizzup | hahaha |
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| 08:13.26 | bencoh | Wizzup: not on n900 |
| 08:13.58 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: maybe we can build something on top of sxiv or feh (both in extras-devel) |
| 08:14.10 | bencoh | they're quite lightweight |
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| 08:29.58 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 09:12.46 | Openbot | sixwheeledbeast kotczarny image viewer on maemo is apita i exclusively use fcam mostly just for the shake of imageviewer as that is lightning fast |
| 09:14.09 | bencoh | fcam is "lighting fast" only because it loads the pre-scaled thumbnail in the RAW file |
| 09:14.46 | Openbot | downside is images are in the range of 10.6 mb each so much space is wasted but still when showing photos to someone it just works |
| 09:15.04 | bencoh | until you start zooming on a few photos |
| 09:15.17 | Openbot | bencoh zooming is fast too but uninitutive |
| 09:15.27 | bencoh | it will slow down after a few pictures |
| 09:15.40 | Openbot | takes a sec or so to zoom |
| 09:15.54 | KotCzarny | are we talking about cam app or pic viewer? |
| 09:16.04 | bencoh | pic viewer |
| 09:16.11 | Openbot | na i am using it for long no slow downs here |
| 09:16.17 | bencoh | but Openbot brough fcam up |
| 09:16.30 | bencoh | (and yeah, it's not a picture viewer :) |
| 09:16.32 | Openbot | kotczarny pic viewer |
| 09:17.11 | Openbot | i hate to call the stock photo viewer a photo viewer |
| 09:17.54 | Openbot | its nice but switching through photos is a pain |
| 09:19.03 | Openbot | kotczarny i think you should release your app someday |
| 09:19.11 | Openbot | maybe its nice |
| 09:19.15 | KotCzarny | it is |
| 09:19.25 | Openbot | i dont believe |
| 09:19.46 | KotCzarny | just i dont have time/motivation to pack it into a deb (as usual) |
| 09:20.00 | Openbot | dont get offended but there are heck a lot but all a pita |
| 09:20.07 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 09:20.14 | KotCzarny | thats why i wrote my own |
| 09:20.23 | Openbot | my god |
| 09:21.03 | Openbot | i choose softmeng as career |
| 09:21.13 | Openbot | typo |
| 09:21.21 | Openbot | soft engg |
| 09:22.02 | Openbot | lol |
| 09:23.59 | Openbot | what features your app has ? does it intregate with system can it be set as default viewer |
| 09:24.11 | KotCzarny | define 'integrate' |
| 09:24.31 | KotCzarny | because most integration is done via assigning filetype |
| 09:24.33 | Openbot | i.e ability to share images |
| 09:24.53 | Openbot | via sharing plugins |
| 09:24.56 | KotCzarny | never needed one, could be written if one needs |
| 09:25.04 | Openbot | aha |
| 09:25.52 | Openbot | little editing features ike cropping brightness contrast resizing |
| 09:26.27 | KotCzarny | same |
| 09:26.34 | KotCzarny | its a picture viewer, not editor |
| 09:26.44 | KotCzarny | but given enough need, can be easily done |
| 09:27.49 | Openbot | sure but they are essential and its for granted in most image viewers |
| 09:28.22 | KotCzarny | no, they are essential for camera app |
| 09:28.30 | KotCzarny | pics are already prepared |
| 09:28.37 | Openbot | camera app ?? |
| 09:28.48 | KotCzarny | yeah, if your source material is 'raw' |
| 09:29.16 | Openbot | na fcam also saves jpg |
| 09:29.37 | KotCzarny | if you download pictures from internet, they are usually already 'done' |
| 09:30.00 | Openbot | and as you brought up it should show raw files too |
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| 09:30.39 | KotCzarny | no, i meant raw as taken from angle or badly prepared scene |
| 09:31.11 | Openbot | you dont get it what if i want to crop a part then upload or just increase the contrast so that loolks pretty on device |
| 09:31.19 | Openbot | aha |
| 09:31.45 | KotCzarny | as i said, you usually edit/share pics taken by yourself via cam |
| 09:32.16 | KotCzarny | picture viewer is for viewing generic pictures/images |
| 09:32.26 | Openbot | humm you are going jpg vs raw |
| 09:32.58 | Openbot | ok leave raw behind |
| 09:33.05 | Openbot | :p |
| 09:33.09 | KotCzarny | no, as i said, it was about raw source, not raw as .raw |
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| 09:33.47 | Openbot | clarify pls i dont get a word ? |
| 09:34.41 | pentanol | Im still looking for pictures viewer with zoom support. |
| 09:34.58 | KotCzarny | oscv has zoom support |
| 09:35.00 | Openbot | i am not talking something like gimp just things like which are present in stock viewer |
| 09:35.17 | Openbot | oscv nice name |
| 09:35.30 | KotCzarny | yeah, it started from osc app |
| 09:35.39 | Openbot | humm |
| 09:35.43 | KotCzarny | which is a simple oscilloscope with pixel engine |
| 09:36.05 | Openbot | oscp gained some traction |
| 09:36.06 | KotCzarny | then i just added diff formats and bam, picture viewer |
| 09:36.14 | KotCzarny | oscp is a audio player |
| 09:36.19 | Wizzup | feh does all this |
| 09:36.39 | Openbot | i am lisining on oscp now too |
| 09:36.40 | Wizzup | and is fast and lightweight |
| 09:36.53 | Openbot | feh ? |
| 09:36.59 | KotCzarny | picture viewer |
| 09:37.16 | bencoh | feh isnt that fast on n900, but it's "good enough" |
| 09:37.29 | Openbot | let me check where on mother earth is that |
| 09:37.39 | bencoh | and it's not really touchscreen friendly, unfortunately |
| 09:37.54 | Openbot | humm |
| 09:39.03 | Openbot | kotczarny download fcam take some shots swipe up and try scrolling fast |
| 09:39.15 | Openbot | you will feel it |
| 09:39.21 | KotCzarny | feel what? |
| 09:39.45 | pentanol | KotCzarny in what repo oscv exists? |
| 09:39.51 | Openbot | switching speed of pics i.e fastest on maemo |
| 09:40.14 | Openbot | i am waiting for oscv |
| 09:40.26 | Openbot | to change that |
| 09:41.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 09:42.05 | Openbot | also does it open fast like stock viewer |
| 09:42.38 | bencoh | stock viewer "opens fast" because it runs in the background |
| 09:42.49 | Openbot | but pls intregate sharing functions as found in stock viewer |
| 09:42.50 | bencoh | like the browser, or the rtcom UIs |
| 09:43.06 | Openbot | preload stuff u mean |
| 09:43.20 | bencoh | yeah you can call that "preloading" |
| 09:44.03 | Openbot | my netbook got a speed boost after installing preload demon |
| 09:45.00 | pentanol | KotCzarny could you give a link to oscv? |
| 09:45.32 | Openbot | pentanol its unreleased |
| 09:45.51 | Openbot | and no torrents for noe ?p |
| 09:48.06 | Openbot | next if only someone adds flash support and terrible shutter lag in fcam as explaind in garage |
| 09:48.18 | Openbot | my n900 would fly |
| 09:48.49 | Openbot | high |
| 09:48.50 | bencoh | the shutter lag is a tough one |
| 09:49.21 | bencoh | as explained on the fcam documentation, it's because of the resolution switch handling in the v4l drivers |
| 09:49.50 | Openbot | i don't know i read it coudnt get a thing but there are poeople who know better |
| 09:50.24 | bencoh | so you'd need to either 1. patch the underlying v4l drivers, or 2. use max res for the preview shots |
| 09:50.31 | bencoh | 1. would need some work |
| 09:50.55 | Openbot | also if i read it correct then fixed resolution of 640 would do |
| 09:51.01 | bencoh | 2. would be slow (the camera cant go higher than 12fps at max res iirc) and take more memory |
| 09:51.48 | Openbot | memory should not be a issue if fcam perfoms well |
| 09:51.51 | bencoh | s/be slow/feel slow/ |
| 09:52.26 | Openbot | seriously stock app feels crap now |
| 09:53.01 | Openbot | stock app only used when something fast is to be shot |
| 09:53.45 | Openbot | and i love the image viewer too :p |
| 09:54.33 | Openbot | kotczarny big question is it touch friendly |
| 09:56.22 | Openbot | things like cutetubes player fcams viewer are exceptional |
| 09:57.27 | Openbot | bye |
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| 11:12.30 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Many don't use the non-free repo because they feel strongly about open software. I don't have many non-free apps. Maybe SMM10 that's it. |
| 11:17.05 | sixwheeledbeast | There was plenty of non-free crap in Ovi which not many used, me and pichlo made 'bander' to replace 'resistors' offscreen app. |
| 11:19.59 | sixwheeledbeast | Touch friendly and Maemo styling would be important. Also is the stock app FOSS? Can the stock app be replaced via CSSU easily? |
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| 11:41.05 | sixwheeledbeast | As bencho says stock one is preloaded eating your RAM, so if it was to be replaced I would want to loose the stock one from being in memory. |
| 11:42.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Come to thing of it, browser being in memory would be annoying too if the browser was replaced. |
| 11:42.14 | sixwheeledbeast | s/thing/think/ |
| 11:43.33 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: you can prevent both of them to be preloaded |
| 11:43.55 | bencoh | erm, you can prevent image-viewer, browserd is still needed for rtcom-ui* |
| 11:43.58 | sixwheeledbeast | but they hang around if loaded? |
| 11:44.02 | bencoh | rtcom-*-ui |
| 11:44.14 | bencoh | no |
| 11:44.47 | sixwheeledbeast | ah yes I remember this now, browserd needed for call-ui |
| 11:44.54 | bencoh | there are a few other preloaded apps on maemo, I "disabled" a few here |
| 11:45.08 | bencoh | there is a single line to change/remove in the desktop file iirc |
| 11:47.05 | bencoh | X-Maemo-Prestarted in /usr/share/applications/hildon/*.desktop |
| 11:56.58 | freemangordon_ | guys, programs being "preloaded" is not that bad, as soon as RAM is needed, their executable pages are evicted |
| 11:57.05 | freemangordon_ | and data is swapped |
| 11:57.34 | bencoh | true |
| 11:57.51 | freemangordon_ | also, iirc, broswerd gets SIGSTOP when not needed |
| 11:58.19 | freemangordon_ | *browserd |
| 12:04.13 | sixwheeledbeast | hmm, ok. freemangordon_ do you have an opinion on image-viewer? and how easy a replacement could drop in. if one was found/made. |
| 12:14.53 | KotCzarny | freemangordon_: whats the point then? more swap churning? |
| 12:17.53 | freemangordon_ | KotCzarny: the point is that symbol resolution would not take place when the executable is needed |
| 12:18.16 | KotCzarny | best way would be creating software that is slim |
| 12:18.21 | freemangordon_ | faster startup ;) |
| 12:18.28 | freemangordon_ | it is already slim |
| 12:18.36 | KotCzarny | slimmer! |
| 12:18.48 | KotCzarny | dos only needs 512kB |
| 12:18.58 | KotCzarny | and can run word |
| 12:18.59 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 12:19.04 | KotCzarny | well, kind of |
| 12:19.14 | freemangordon_ | sixwheeledbeast: if it is GTK, then it should be ok. I doubt Qt replacement will do it better |
| 12:19.45 | freemangordon_ | or even on par |
| 12:19.45 | KotCzarny | ive always perveived qt as a memory hod |
| 12:19.51 | freemangordon_ | it is |
| 12:19.52 | KotCzarny | *hog |
| 12:20.13 | freemangordon_ | but is waaaay easier than gtk to program with |
| 12:20.26 | freemangordon_ | at least to me |
| 12:20.49 | KotCzarny | size vs convenience |
| 12:21.01 | KotCzarny | on n900 its unfortunatelly size |
| 12:21.07 | KotCzarny | so smart apps are needed |
| 12:21.51 | KotCzarny | lcuk started writing his own toolkit |
| 12:21.52 | freemangordon_ | sixwheeledbeast: BTW, what about image-viewer? is that the last non-foss application to deal with? |
| 12:21.55 | bencoh | actually image-viewer isnt that slow ... it just doesnt "feel smooth" |
| 12:21.58 | KotCzarny | pity he didnt have a chance to finish :/ |
| 12:22.13 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: smooth? |
| 12:22.14 | sixwheeledbeast | Yep, I understand Qt has a lot of libs, but many packages use it anyway. |
| 12:22.51 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: comeon, it is not IV itself, it is the HW behind it |
| 12:22.57 | bencoh | freemangordon_: yeah, the UI ... you know, when you move/swipe between pictures you have this perceptible "stutter" |
| 12:23.04 | bencoh | maybe |
| 12:23.07 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon_: No, it was just on topic that image-viewer was pants and pretty much useless. |
| 12:23.18 | sixwheeledbeast | I have no idea on ~closed status |
| 12:23.20 | freemangordon_ | useless? |
| 12:23.21 | sixwheeledbeast | ~closed |
| 12:23.21 | infobot | it has been said that closed is http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900 |
| 12:23.54 | sixwheeledbeast | well no features you would expect from a image-viewer. Zoom for example. |
| 12:24.18 | bencoh | it can zoom but it doesnt feel natural either |
| 12:24.21 | freemangordon_ | wait, what? you can zoom in image-viewer. as well as rotate, crop, etc, etc |
| 12:25.02 | Wizzup | I doubt qt will be the main memory overhead. |
| 12:25.24 | sixwheeledbeast | [[pentanol: I need make pictures bigger sometimes when I look on it and default app can't make this.]] |
| 12:25.47 | freemangordon_ | oh, you meant resize? |
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| 12:26.15 | Wizzup | you can zoom in |
| 12:26.57 | freemangordon_ | Wizzup: unless someone implements launcher for qt apps the same way as for gtk, qt applications startup times will be alwasys 2-3 times bigger than gtk |
| 12:27.25 | bencoh | freemangordon_: hm, how would that work, by the way (qt launcher) ? |
| 12:27.25 | freemangordon_ | take clock-ui for example |
| 12:27.28 | Wizzup | startup times are again very different from memory overhead |
| 12:27.42 | freemangordon_ | oh, it is the same this time |
| 12:28.02 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: you know maemo launcher? |
| 12:28.14 | freemangordon_ | applications are basically compiled as .so files |
| 12:28.53 | freemangordon_ | and then launcher forks, without need to load the needed libraries every time. |
| 12:29.03 | freemangordon_ | that saves both memory and CPU |
| 12:29.21 | bencoh | common libraries should already be loaded ... is it about initialization ? |
| 12:29.26 | freemangordon_ | yes |
| 12:29.46 | bencoh | is maemo-launcher opensource ? |
| 12:29.49 | freemangordon_ | sure |
| 12:30.04 | freemangordon_ | and there is even a sample Qt preloader |
| 12:30.10 | freemangordon_ | or whatever it is called |
| 12:30.28 | freemangordon_ | http://maemomm.garage.maemo.org/docs/tutorial/html/ch07.html |
| 12:32.18 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-launcher/source/5148012f57a924472399f11454a3780a86b8afbd: |
| 12:32.40 | bencoh | thx (fetched in sb already :) |
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| 12:33.45 | bencoh | oooh, it's supposed to be modular and support different "booster module" |
| 12:33.57 | freemangordon_ | :nod: |
| 12:34.09 | bencoh | and there is a booster_qt.c |
| 12:34.30 | freemangordon_ | yep, but it is empty |
| 12:34.39 | bencoh | which looks like a placeholder |
| 12:34.40 | bencoh | yeah |
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| 12:39.52 | bencoh | does it need anything from the app (apart from being built with correct flags ?) |
| 12:40.14 | freemangordon_ | no |
| 12:40.25 | bencoh | it looks like everything should be taken care of, but ... |
| 12:40.39 | freemangordon_ | just make sure it exports only main() and all other symbols are static |
| 12:46.10 | sixwheeledbeast | so something can be done to make qt apps load faster? |
| 12:47.36 | bencoh | freemangordon_: do you know how the qt "launcher" on meego/HARM works ? |
| 12:47.48 | bencoh | they have something as well iirc |
| 12:48.31 | bencoh | hmm, it looks like it's just for qtquick stuff |
| 12:48.59 | bencoh | (qtquick/qdeclavaritve/qml) |
| 12:52.36 | freemangordon_ | sixwheeledbeast: yes |
| 12:52.41 | freemangordon_ | bencoh: no idea |
| 12:53.19 | sixwheeledbeast | hmm, ok. That would be good. |
| 12:54.11 | sixwheeledbeast | Especially now qt FOSS replacements are finally finding there way into CSSU |
| 12:54.30 | bencoh | yeah |
| 12:54.40 | sixwheeledbeast | clock-ui can take an age to load when you need to set an alarm, for example. |
| 13:00.04 | bencoh | I'd love it for marble ;) |
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| 14:19.00 | Vajb | i can confirm. I allmost fall asleep while clock-ui loads... |
| 14:21.07 | Humpelst1lzchen | Vajb: did you delete old alarms? |
| 14:22.08 | Humpelst1lzchen | never define more then half a dozen alarms, the MHz CPU can not handle more |
| 14:22.15 | kerio | wut |
| 14:24.18 | Humpelst1lzchen | aye :) |
| 14:26.34 | Vajb | i have one alarm which trickers at same time during week days and other which i edit for nap |
| 14:27.05 | Humpelst1lzchen | Vajb: active or total list? |
| 14:27.19 | Vajb | total list shown in ap |
| 14:28.06 | Vajb | is there some file where it stores those alarms? |
| 14:28.32 | Humpelst1lzchen | yes textfile, but don't remember the name |
| 14:29.24 | Vajb | but if i edit same alarm over and over again will it still save some traces somewhere? |
| 14:29.35 | Humpelst1lzchen | don't think so |
| 14:30.32 | Vajb | i think i agree. Because otherwise it would be rather funny design |
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| 14:35.38 | Humpelst1lzchen | check http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57598 |
| 14:35.58 | Humpelst1lzchen | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10707 |
| 14:36.00 | povbot_ | 04Bug 10707: Clock application is very slow to start with lots of saved alarms |
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| 14:36.07 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 14:36.15 | KotCzarny | isnt that ugly? |
| 14:36.39 | zGrr | who is that ugly? |
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| 14:38.41 | Humpelst1lzchen | has 8 alarms in arlarm_queue.ini |
| 14:40.32 | Humpelst1lzchen | thats why we need GHz CPUs |
| 14:41.36 | bencoh | to be able to program moar alarms ? |
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| 14:42.11 | Humpelst1lzchen | at least 200MHz/Alarm |
| 14:42.15 | KotCzarny | pound the alarm! |
| 14:45.17 | Vajb | i have less than 8 |
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| 16:02.07 | krbtgt_ | i've been a while since i've touched my N900 - are these repos down (this is 1.3.1, no CSSU yet, want to check before i install it) http://pastebin.com/SMTw2Ujc |
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| 16:38.29 | bencoh | krbtgt_: they are, see talk.maemo.org |
| 16:38.45 | krbtgt_ | should i remove them? |
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| 16:44.54 | bencoh | krbtgt_: there are some mirrors (and for now you'll need one to install CSSU, until this issue is resolved) ... see TMO :) |
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| 16:46.06 | krbtgt_ | yeah, i just want to resolve any missing repos and held back packages before i install CSSU |
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| 17:32.34 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Humpelst1lzchen: that bug maybe unrelated to Qt. It depends what version of clock-ui you have. |
| 17:34.13 | sixwheeledbeast | CSSU-Testing has a FOSS Qt one. CSSU-Stable has the stock one unless you installed it as an extras package |
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| 18:26.35 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: im running on cssu-testing |
| 18:27.28 | Vajb | clock is perfectly usable, but it just takes some patience to use it. It starts up in less than 10 seconds i think |
| 18:28.46 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 18:28.49 | KotCzarny | 10s? |
| 18:29.17 | KotCzarny | what does it has to do to take so long |
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| 18:32.06 | merlin1991 | bencoh: I think the meego/harm launcher was even open source, but if you're interested in a fairly recent prelauncher for qt stuff I'd look into the sailfish one, it's called mapplauncherd / invoker https://github.com/nemomobile/mapplauncherd |
| 18:32.51 | merlin1991 | if we could adapt that to also support gtk stuff we would have a nice fancy booster package, but I think we'd have to backport MComponentCache to our Qt for that |
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| 19:08.59 | bencoh | merlin1991: is it a generic qt loader or just for qtquick/qml/qdeclarative ? |
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| 19:19.55 | krbtgt_ | what mirrors for the repos do you recommend? |
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| 19:45.13 | krbtgt_ | (or even better: post your HAM repo config) |
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| 19:45.34 | krbtgt_ | i'm using the "muarf" mirror but keys expired (is that nokia's fault or mine?) |
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| 19:48.20 | KotCzarny | nokia is no more |
| 20:00.04 | krbtgt_ | ok, now some packages are held back because mp-fremantle-generic-pr doesnt want them touched |
| 20:00.19 | krbtgt_ | what should be done regarding that before SSU is installed? |
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| 20:46.41 | krbtgt_ | should i upgrade and thus remove that package or keep the packages held back? |
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| 21:52.09 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: KotCzarny: firing up Qt is what's going on there then I would say. However, the bug link before is for another bug, pre-FOSS clock-ui. |
| 21:56.31 | sixwheeledbeast | krbtgt_: I don't believe there are "recommended" mirrors. KEYEXPIRED has been an issue for years. |
| 21:56.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ~keysexpired |
| 21:58.11 | krbtgt_ | still, there's the held back packages (libgcc, libsdl, libcurl, libstdc++) |
| 21:58.25 | krbtgt_ | i want to make sure nothing goes wrong before i install CSSU |
| 22:03.30 | sixwheeledbeast | we where talking about image-viewer before, oddly I just stumbled upon this QML code http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/28/magnifying-glass-qml/ |
| 22:04.11 | sixwheeledbeast | krbtgt_: I don't believe installing CSSU is possible without the packages from the downloads.maemo.nokia repo. |
| 22:05.51 | krbtgt_ | i did find a working mirror |
| 22:06.05 | krbtgt_ | i just need to know what should be done with held back packages |
| 22:07.43 | krbtgt_ | http://pastebin.com/9V3ubtTW |
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| 22:25.17 | sixwheeledbeast | meh, dependency hell welcome to Maemo. |
| 22:27.25 | krbtgt_ | so just go with it? |
| 22:29.19 | sixwheeledbeast | I would say not, you have to be careful with Maemo and dependencies. HAM is recommended way to install packages. |
| 22:29.22 | sixwheeledbeast | ~HAM |
| 22:29.22 | infobot | from memory, ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham |
| 22:29.35 | sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam |
| 22:29.35 | infobot | rumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
| 22:45.48 | krbtgt_ | hmmm, i ran the anbler and it said errors occured - i think with pinning. |
| 22:46.03 | krbtgt_ | also, it reset my mirror repo to the default down nokia ones (?) |
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| 23:28.21 | krbtgt_ | fighting ham |
| 23:30.10 | krbtgt_ | i can't edit the broken nokia repo - i can edit it from sources.list.d, but HAM will have none of that |
| 23:37.34 | pentanol | hi there, someone know repo for mihphoto? |
| 23:40.54 | krbtgt_ | i can't control-v/backspace in HAM |
| 23:48.14 | pentanol | krbtgt_ ctrl+v or ctrl+bsp doesn't work? |
| 23:48.18 | krbtgt_ | no |
| 23:48.28 | krbtgt_ | i'm trying to replace the nokia repo with the mirror |
| 23:48.45 | pentanol | when nokia bootups did you chose englich or not? |
| 23:48.48 | krbtgt_ | i can edit the .list file but HAM tells it to fuck off and replaces it with its own |
| 23:48.54 | krbtgt_ | the keys work everywhere else |
| 23:49.10 | krbtgt_ | i know because i just used them in MicroB/xterm |
| 23:49.46 | pentanol | how did you edit .list? with vim? |
| 23:49.50 | krbtgt_ | yeah |
| 23:49.57 | pentanol | why not just copying |
| 23:50.07 | pentanol | prepare ready .list and copy |
| 23:50.21 | krbtgt_ | ham ignores .list and trying to paste the repos into HAM won't work as it won't let me paste |
| 23:59.47 | pentanol | krbtgt_ do you know some image viewer for n900 with zoom support? |