IRC log for #maemo on 20150427

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03:33.26pentanolI give my n900 to the phone service. And thay are told that imei was wiped. How can I be sure that I have this or not?
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03:50.20pentanolussd *#06# saying that imei is blank.
04:12.10svetawhat was the priginal problem with it
04:35.57pentanolsveta n900 no seeing the sim-card
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04:44.25svetamm
04:55.42KotCzarnywell, you can always install some voip software and use it instead of gsm
04:56.01KotCzarnyin the worst case that you cant set imei again
05:06.28KotCzarnypentanol: and most likely n900 sees the card, but isnt allowed by gsm network to register
05:06.41KotCzarnyif you can see contacts from the card then its the case
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05:28.20KotCzarnyoh, and another solution would be neo900 board
05:28.21KotCzarny:)
05:35.59pentanolKotCzarny yes, I can see contacts from sim-card.
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05:37.24KotCzarnymy bet would be someone tried to change imei, but failed, and now checksums dont work out and its not being set
05:42.27KotCzarnyhmm
05:42.28KotCzarnysomeone reported that no-connection was fixed by updating apps
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05:52.03KotCzarnyyou can also try global and regionalized firmware
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05:56.23KotCzarnyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1188556&postcount=45
06:00.07KotCzarnyanother possibility is that gsm module is loose
06:00.08KotCzarnyhttps://www.jabawok.net/?p=14
06:01.48KotCzarnyand another is trying old firmware versions
06:02.25KotCzarny1.2 or earlier
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09:28.09chem|stKotCzarny: once had working 1.3 there is no going back to <1.3 as the modem hardware got flashed
09:28.36chem|stiirc
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10:24.08zGrrmoin :)
10:24.30svetlanahi, zGrr
10:26.04zGrrsvetlana:  Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ð²ÐµÑ‚! :)
10:26.54svetlanaой, привет
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10:57.56princefakhanhello guys
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13:00.39freemangordon_warfare: there seems to be some problem with maemo.org
13:01.01warfarefreemangordon_: -v, please
13:02.15warfarefreemangordon_: "please be more verbose" - maemo.org as a platform or just the website (which icinga alarmed me about 10 Minutes ago) ;)
13:02.33freemangordon_warfare: maemo.org seems down
13:02.45freemangordon_"It's not just you!  http://maemo.org looks down from here. "
13:03.11freemangordon_warfare: I still cannot ssh into it, trying for the last 40 seconds
13:03.44warfarefreemangordon_: I'm killing the vm, lots and lots of OOM killer messages.
13:03.53freemangordon_It is either DoS attacked or..., dunno
13:04.01freemangordon_ok
13:04.06warfareOut of memory: Kill process 23878 (apache2) score 29 or sacrifice child
13:06.21warfareShould be back now.
13:06.35freemangordon_yep, it is up
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13:16.06bencohyay, thx :)
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16:06.05princefakhanfinally! I made it work. yeah!
16:06.40bencoh:-)
16:11.24princefakhanare cssu devs here too?
16:21.38Sicelowhat works?
16:23.36Siceloah, xchat :)
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16:36.55princefakhanyeah. xchat.
16:38.26princefakhan@Sicelo: I was actually signed on both XChat and that conversations plugin. and so I was stuck and finally my battery died. lol
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16:49.09sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: #maemo-ssu is where the devs hang about for CSSU decisions  
16:50.30princefakhanif I want to request a feature in cssu, should I go there.
16:51.18sixwheeledbeastwhat feature?
16:52.01princefakhanwell I would want to have full browsing experience in portrait mode in MicroB
16:52.22Elleo41
16:52.24Elleoopos
16:52.56princefakhanif I want to go to menu or desktop I have to slide out keyboard and then to the menu.
16:54.22princefakhanif we could have something like in landscape where you can enter exit fullscreen it could work
16:56.47bencohwhich menu ?
16:56.50bencohlauncher menu ?
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17:09.17sixwheeledbeastI have already reported that
17:09.27sixwheeledbeastoh ...gone
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17:09.52sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: I have already reported that issue
17:10.50sixwheeledbeastTBH MicroB is old and we need to look at putting effort into a modern lightweight browser.
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17:11.25sixwheeledbeastQML Browser was looking promising, also emdedlite until there was a roadblock I believe
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17:14.57princefakhan_sixwheeledbeast thanks for the info.
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17:15.25princefakhan_my battery died. :)
17:15.41sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan_: also I was told the part of MicroB that causes the issue is closed anyway.
17:15.57bencohyeah, the UI is closed :(
17:16.01bencoh(closed-source)
17:16.02sixwheeledbeastSo not easy to patch either.
17:16.12sixwheeledbeast~closed
17:16.13infoboti guess closed is http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900
17:16.46princefakhan_oh yeah! didn't give a thought on that
17:19.41princefakhan_qmlbrowser isn't working as expected. it is sluggish.
17:20.08princefakhan_I'm not sure if it is the browser or my phone.
17:21.37bencohnot your phone
17:21.54bencohit often feels "slower" than microb
17:22.59bencohscrolling is definitely slower (but microb cheats a bit with the "chessboard pattern")
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17:23.59bencohthe jscore engine (used in qmlbrowser) is much faster though
17:24.16bencohmeh :)
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17:27.19sixwheeledbeastWhile on topic, MicroB for me has not been opening the Bookmarks window at start up and i have NFC why.
17:28.20bencohstrange
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17:34.14sixwheeledbeastHmm yes I NFC why, no option to do that, it has only started lately. I get a single [untitled] browser page and have to open bookmarks myself.
17:35.30dos1is it possible to replace the n900 speaker in the case?
17:35.38princefakhansorry guys. I was on kiwiirc on android/chrome. it kept reloading the moment I went to another page. :)
17:36.19princefakhanNFC as in near field communication?
17:36.57dos1no f... clue :)
17:38.48princefakhancould someone tell me how frequently irc logs are refreshed
17:39.49KotCzarnycheck the last visible message then do the math
17:40.56princefakhanthat is exactly what I'm doing. ;)
17:41.57Sicelosixwheeledbeast: i would like to have that. i don't quite like having to start at bookmarks menu
17:42.38sixwheeledbeastSicelo: it's annoying. You can't even select a home page!
17:42.59sixwheeledbeast~NFC
17:42.59infobotit has been said that nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications
17:43.32scottchahah
17:43.36Sicelobut i like that because you can just type your desired page without the creation of a new window .. which is what i actually don't like.
17:43.56Siceloso if the bookmarks menu didn't have to launch a new window, sure, i'd like ti
17:43.58sixwheeledbeastlogs are pretty live ~5 minutes delay
17:44.01Sicelo*it
17:44.01sixwheeledbeastif that
17:44.20sixwheeledbeast~botsnack
17:44.20infobotsixwheeledbeast: :)
17:44.30princefakhan5 mins it is.
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17:45.09sixwheeledbeastSicelo: Well I need to know how it happened first ;)
17:45.47princefakhanwe have no near field communication too. lol!
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17:46.38Openbotprincefakhan hi
17:46.54Openbotno fukin clue
17:47.48princefakhanhi openbot. thanks. but u took way too much time answering. :p
17:47.59Openbotsixwheeledbeast
17:48.10Openbotprincefakhan? ?
17:49.08princefakhanI mean if u look up a lil bit u would know people already told me that
17:49.46Openbotsixwheeledbeast is there any engine that is lightweight and usable on maemo
17:49.54princefakhanI even made a joke. :)
17:50.06sixwheeledbeastDon't look at me
17:50.23Openbotprincefakhan lol i logged after i saw u
17:50.51princefakhanopenbot I figured
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17:51.39princefakhananyway. what does ~something means
17:51.59Openbotsixwheeledbeast. .. look at them lool at em how they are looking at me ... eyes are skiking out like honey on bees ... comes to mind :p
17:52.48Openbotthet are irc commands or bot actions princefakhan
17:53.07princefakhanhmmm
17:53.24Openbot~kill princefakhan
17:53.24infobotACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-photon gun at princefakhan
17:53.30princefakhan~botsnack
17:53.30infobotprincefakhan: thanks
17:54.33Openbotregister with freenode @ princefakhan
17:54.55princefakhanoh come on openbot and infobot. I just started irc. lool
17:55.13sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: there is an infobot, a perl script that listens to the channel and can provide information.
17:55.20Openbotme noob too
17:55.39sixwheeledbeastinfobot is a bot, Openbot is not. Don't get confused....
17:56.09Openbot~wiki flashing
17:56.13sixwheeledbeast~2*2
17:56.14infobot4
17:56.24sixwheeledbeast~weather EDDN
17:56.25Openbotmeh
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17:56.33Openbotgood
17:56.42Sicelo~weather mbabane
17:56.48sixwheeledbeastsome examples...
17:56.52Siceloshoots infobot
17:57.13sixwheeledbeast~slap Sicelo
17:57.14infobotACTION slaps Sicelo, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:57.15princefakhanah I see. well I knew openbot is human.
17:57.49Sicelo~weather fdms
17:57.55Sicelo:)
17:57.58princefakhandidn't know about infobot until he said thanks when I gave him something to eat. lol
17:58.15princefakhananyway thanks for clearing it up
17:58.33bencoh:)
17:58.34Openboti am openbot and i am not a bot
17:58.38Sicelowhatever FDMS stands for
17:58.48sixwheeledbeastthe wonders of a script, lol
17:58.56sixwheeledbeastSicelo there airport codes
17:59.26princefakhanyeah. he sounds pretty human
17:59.41princefakhan;p
17:59.50bencohkrkr
17:59.52Openbot..../help princefakhan without dots
18:01.18princefakhanoh lol! someone is helping me without any dots. it is all very confusing texts here. :p
18:02.20Openbot./msg nickserv register password youremail@.com
18:02.29Openbotprincefakhan
18:03.26Openbotusual chills and thrills i had in the past
18:03.29Openbotlol
18:04.34Openbotwith reg you can enjoy reg only channels
18:04.46princefakhanhaha. though I think commands do not work on webchat.freenode.net
18:05.16Openbotok c u later
18:05.25princefakhanThanks for the info. I have already registered.
18:05.43princefakhanOK. bye
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18:08.35princefakhanah! just ran into this problem again. thought I should ask.
18:09.06princefakhanmany times when I connect a charger to my phone it res
18:09.56princefakhan*reads it as a USB device. and asks me to select a mode.
18:10.31princefakhanand then it doesn't go away unless I restart the device.
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18:12.21princefakhanalso
18:12.23Openbothappens with me too at times i gnore it
18:12.32Openbotis it a problem
18:13.11Openbotprincefakhan are u on thumb
18:13.39princefakhanahh! I am also using Advance power monitor. I don't remember if this happened before
18:14.21Openbotaha
18:14.39princefakhanwelcome back openbot. yeah I m on thumb.
18:14.40Vajbprincefakhan: i solved this by first connecting charger to phone and after that to mains
18:14.45Openbotog charger
18:15.15Openbotvajb humm
18:15.24Openbotbbl
18:15.30princefakhanVajb please elaborate
18:16.01Vajbalso if u have usbmode installed u can re-enebale peripheral mode and it resets that usb question
18:16.38Vajbprincefakhan: answered ur charger recogniced as computer problem
18:16.43princefakhanI uninstalled usbmode thinking it could be a culprit too.
18:17.46princefakhannah! what did u mean by "connected to mains"
18:17.48Vajbalso if u have bnf installed u can check if it thinks wall charger is present or not
18:18.08Vajbmeaning pluging ur chager to wall socket
18:18.31princefakhanahh!
18:19.53Vajbi heard that problem is caused by partial connection of usb cable
18:20.21Vajbwhich is result of not plugging in cable perfectly alligned with phone
18:22.01princefakhanyeah I think my USB is faulty. I am not able to charge my phone properly these days.
18:22.07princefakhan:(
18:23.44Vajbmaybe my trick works
18:23.55Vajbor u tried that way already?
18:24.25Vajbhave u filed down those small hooks in usb cable?
18:24.34Vajbif not u should
18:24.59princefakhanwell ur trick didnt work for me. :(
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18:25.14Vajb:/
18:25.37Vajbit sounds to me that r usb socket is coming loose
18:25.42princefakhanfiled down?
18:25.44Vajbur*
18:26.06princefakhanexactly. it loose
18:26.23Vajbyes there r two small hooks in cable connector. File them down with small metal file
18:27.23Vajbprobably damage is already done, but that will prevent further damages
18:27.46Vajbi heard that someone teared whole port off with charger cable
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18:28.50princefakhanwell those are all fine. I have many connectors. it is no doubt my device's USB socket
18:30.43princefakhanummm. so I have to open up my device to do that. don't I
18:31.55sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: possibly an issue with your uUSB port.
18:32.12sixwheeledbeast~usbfix
18:32.12infobotit has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
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18:47.54princefakhanVajb well I haven't
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18:49.10princefakhanone more thing guys. the led blinks even when u r using the device, doesn't it? mine is not blinking.
18:52.26princefakhani mean using it while charging.
18:54.15princefakhanand what does short rapid yellow blink means
19:03.32ecc3gmine doesn't blink when using... though I did not enable the "enable LED when on" checkbox...
19:04.40Vajbmine either. Only when screen is locked and it's charging.
19:06.02princefakhanwell I don't see "enable LED when on" anywhere but I have checked all LED notifications in Settings.
19:06.55ecc3g"device on" that is... mine is unchecked,  this might be the "breathing light" on older nokias...
19:08.13princefakhanmine is checked. what should I expect since my USB port is effed up?
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19:09.30princefakhanI believe rapid short blinking happens sometime cuz the cable keeps connecting and disconnecting from the usb port.
19:10.36princefakhanI also recieve the "The device is using more power than actually recieving. blah blah" prompt.
19:12.35ecc3gdont know, never had it checked, I suspect if the usb is unplugged, it will blink the LED when the device is on (versus shutdown)
19:13.35ecc3git took me a long time to find microusb cables and chargers that are functional enough to actually charge...
19:14.07princefakhanthat is when the device is locked.
19:15.33princefakhanAnd the led blinks in locked case only when you have checked "device on" in "Notification lightt" in Settings.
19:16.17princefakhanI don't suppose there is any blinking if you are doing stuff while charging the device.
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21:23.04sixwheeledbeastIf "Device on" is checked you get a faint white flash from the notification light every ~2 sec
21:23.15sixwheeledbeastWhile locked but on
21:23.58sixwheeledbeastIf you don't get yellow slow pulsing while on charger something is wrong/broken.
21:24.16sixwheeledbeastYou can't disable that from settings
21:24.47sixwheeledbeastWhile the device is OFF or act-dead that is
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22:36.52Luke-Jrsigh, Maemo is going bonkers for hours now since I tried to use Recaller
22:36.53Luke-Jrwhich has been the case since I did the CSSU thing
22:37.04Luke-Jrunfortunately, I have unsaved data I need :/
22:37.17Luke-Jrany ideas on recovering?
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