IRC log for #maemo on 20150419

00:19.16*** join/#maemo saponga (~saponga@unaffiliated/saponga)
00:21.29*** join/#maemo sparetire (~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire)
00:27.44*** join/#maemo Gadgetoid (~Gadgetoid@customers.shef1.resi.ask4.co.uk)
00:43.49*** join/#maemo flo_lap (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
01:16.25*** join/#maemo Humpelstilzchen (erik@x55b02f29.dyn.telefonica.de)
01:19.34*** join/#maemo protem (~protem@unaffiliated/protem)
01:52.40*** join/#maemo Kabouik (~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net)
01:59.46*** join/#maemo RedW (~redw@89-73-179-171.dynamic.chello.pl)
02:31.05*** join/#maemo maybeHere (~cl@p5B160730.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
03:00.36*** join/#maemo neal__ (~neal@p5DDF864C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
03:02.09*** join/#maemo lxp1 (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp)
03:16.13*** join/#maemo FlameReaper-PC (~honoo-pc@175.139.20.78)
03:21.11*** join/#maemo Gh0sty (~ghosty@fosdem/staff/gh0sty)
04:11.58*** join/#maemo sixwheeledbeast^ (~zem@lagrange.cloud-7.de)
04:25.17*** join/#maemo Unbreakable (~uuhimhere@1.9.99.247)
04:37.09*** join/#maemo sparetire (~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire)
04:51.47*** join/#maemo Venusaur (~wdwrwf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez)
05:28.55*** join/#maemo emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma)
05:39.43*** join/#maemo herdem09 (~herdem09@176.219.134.199)
06:53.40*** join/#maemo vuvekkk (~vuvekkk@178.180.124.156.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl)
06:57.58*** join/#maemo LauRoman|Alt (~LauRoman@5-14-44-249.residential.rdsnet.ro)
07:06.08*** join/#maemo _rd (~rd@p4FD1F0F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
07:44.28*** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@apn-46-169-80-21.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
08:13.14*** join/#maemo kolp (~quassel@x4d0af8d7.dyn.telefonica.de)
08:22.30*** join/#maemo maybeHere (~cl@p5B160730.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:19.09*** join/#maemo lxp (~lxp@unaffiliated/lxp)
09:31.48*** join/#maemo futpib (~futpib@176.96.236.56)
09:31.54*** join/#maemo xorly (~xorly@ip-86-49-15-121.net.upcbroadband.cz)
10:03.44*** join/#maemo Vajb (~Vajb@85-76-1-107-nat.elisa-mobile.fi)
10:18.42*** join/#maemo Vajb (~Vajb@85-76-1-107-nat.elisa-mobile.fi)
10:25.36*** join/#maemo mirda (~mirdaf@77.48.246.72)
11:19.18*** join/#maemo testingN9 (~ircchatte@apn-31-2-39-172.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
11:20.43*** join/#maemo _rd (~rd@p4FD1F0F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:40.39*** join/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
11:59.52*** join/#maemo Haudegen (~quassel@85.124.51.57)
12:13.27*** join/#maemo Mek (~quassel@kde/mkruisselbrink)
12:37.06*** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali)
14:03.49*** join/#maemo sleepee (~sleepee@67.224.190.81)
14:18.12*** join/#maemo Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali)
14:28.21*** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@apn-31-1-12-113.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
14:52.45*** join/#maemo saponga (~saponga@unaffiliated/saponga)
14:53.46*** join/#maemo RzR (~RzR@82.236.136.171)
15:01.47*** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@apn-31-1-12-113.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
15:11.07*** join/#maemo Openbot (~Panda@112.79.38.152)
15:17.09totalizatorKotCzarny: "maybe the company behind the telegram software IS a scam?" - tell me that you are joking -.-'
15:17.34KotCzarnytotalizator, just a thought from browsing all android app comments
15:18.03totalizatorsixwheeledbeast^ merlin1991: somebody removed the tags, so yay! and ty
15:18.21KotCzarnythere is definitely something going on, either by the company itself, or maybe something is bundled with it
15:18.41sixwheeledbeast^totalizator: thank a tmo mod.... ;)
15:19.28totalizatorKotCzarny: "android app comments" - pleease; now you have to be joking
15:19.39KotCzarny:)
15:20.00KotCzarnythat's what google positioned in the first few places
15:23.53Openbothail oscp
15:24.32KotCzarnyO.o
15:26.28Openbotdont worry i still cannot make sence of it :P
15:26.40KotCzarnytell me more about it :P
15:26.45Openboti ll learn eventually
15:27.05KotCzarnymaybe update it and learn provided help in-program?
15:27.31Openbotna i dont know a thing and i dont want to ask moot questions
15:27.49Openbotyay hail documentation
15:27.52KotCzarnymost obvious questions are answered there
15:28.06Openboti current
15:28.12KotCzarny(ie. interface and function explained)
15:28.31Openbotly use it as lightweight player
15:29.09Openboti ll learn more and ask later
15:29.18Openbotthanx
15:29.23KotCzarnyno worries
15:30.30Openbothe he it jus
15:30.45KotCzarnybbl
15:30.45Openbott strange for me
15:30.57Openbotas was terminal
15:31.24Openbotand now its a nightmare not having it
15:32.15Openboteven i tend to use cmd on widows
15:32.33Openbot\windows
15:39.32*** join/#maemo Kabouik_ (~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net)
15:47.49*** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@apn-31-1-12-113.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
16:22.55*** join/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
16:45.00*** join/#maemo mavhc (~mavhc@cpc12-basf8-2-0-cust10.12-3.cable.virginm.net)
16:54.57*** join/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
16:56.21*** join/#maemo florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian)
17:06.34*** join/#maemo futpib (~futpib@176.96.236.56)
17:14.57*** join/#maemo RiD (RiD@bl22-173-53.dsl.telepac.pt)
17:25.01*** join/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
17:29.11*** join/#maemo Haudegen (~quassel@85.124.51.57)
17:41.58freemangordonsupl.nokia.com sever certificate expired 3 days ago, anybody knows if Nokia still supports that service or it is MS now?
17:44.20bencohhmm
17:44.51bencohsupl.nokia.com.86400INCNAMEnokia.supl.svc.ovi.com.
17:44.59bencohwho's responsible for ovi ?
17:45.04freemangordonNFC
17:45.11freemangordonopera?
17:45.44*** join/#maemo MikaT (~mtapoja@projects.sse.fi)
17:46.55bencohdunno, whois says nokia
17:48.19freemangordonyes, but I think they handed ovi store to opera. might be wrong thoug
18:03.21*** join/#maemo khertan (~khertan@AAmiens-652-1-286-241.w109-219.abo.wanadoo.fr)
18:03.52Openbotoh thats why gps not getting lock early today
18:13.06*** join/#maemo KotCzarny (~ariel@abxs124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
18:14.22*** join/#maemo M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@ip-37-188-228-40.eurotel.cz)
18:18.39*** join/#maemo Venusaur (~wdwrwf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez)
18:27.26*** part/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
18:27.43*** join/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
18:45.31*** join/#maemo arcean (~arcean@apn-31-1-12-113.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl)
19:01.16sixwheeledbeast^I have noticed modRana being odd this week. Showing my course accuracy GPS as just off shore 200 miles away, instead of the usual ~2 miles away. This maybe the reason.
19:01.56KotCzarnymaybe it was tracking your astral projection
19:02.33antranigvi am using google.com as the server, but i want to change, any advice?
19:04.20bencohcheck if your provider hosts a supl server
19:04.30bencohSFR (france) does for instance
19:05.04antranigvahh, i don't use n900 as a phone
19:05.07antranigvtoo bad.
19:05.18antranigvbut I'll check if i do someday
19:05.44*** join/#maemo sparetire (~sparetire@unaffiliated/sparetire)
19:06.18KotCzarnybuy prepaid card that is valid for a year?
19:06.38KotCzarnyhere (in .pl) there are such offers
19:07.05KotCzarnyso ~3eur gets you one year of validatity without any additional costs
19:07.20antranigvonly internet card?
19:07.26KotCzarnynormal gsm
19:07.36KotCzarnyyou can buy internet packages if you need
19:07.42KotCzarnys/buy/add/
19:08.14KotCzarnyor you can use existing credit for data too
19:08.36KotCzarnyassuming you would use tiny bits
19:09.02antranigvcool
19:09.25KotCzarnyand receiving calls/sms is free of course
19:09.26antranigvthere are better offers in developing countries than in developed countries
19:09.43KotCzarnyhehe
19:09.57KotCzarnyits all about moneys and competition
19:10.03antranigvagree
19:10.44KotCzarnywe are in EU but still pay is behind average
19:11.04KotCzarnyso companies have to lower the prices or lose customers
19:11.45KotCzarnyi was shocked when i found that in usa you pay for incoming calls/sms
19:12.21antranigvlast time i received a cal was 1.5 years ago
19:12.22antranigvaha yes i can see that
19:12.26antranigvlol
19:12.27antranigvwhat
19:12.29antranigv?
19:12.38antranigvfor recieving?
19:12.41KotCzarnyyes
19:12.45antranigvOMG
19:12.47KotCzarnyits called 'air time'
19:12.51*** join/#maemo robink_ (~quassel@unaffilated/robink)
19:12.52KotCzarny:)
19:13.14antranigvin syria even outcalls were free in the same company
19:13.21KotCzarnyyou can select different plans, where outgoing is more pricey, but receiving was free
19:14.04KotCzarnybut you know, small print
19:14.40KotCzarnyalso, another LOL was 'unlimited' plans with fine printed caps
19:15.02KotCzarnys/was/were/
19:15.23*** join/#maemo coopey (~simon@coopey.net)
19:15.32antranigvin armenia too! well, not always but most of the times its free. and so cheaper
19:15.47KotCzarnystill, in terms of data plans, situation sucks here in .pl
19:15.48antranigvtoo! like syria i mean
19:16.10KotCzarnyi mean, one can grab 2GB/month for ~3-5eur
19:16.42KotCzarnybut it's too little to fully switch from the landlines
19:17.42kerioi think we're paying like 30€ for ipad+1gb/day
19:18.40antranigvin AM i pay 20 cents a day ang get unlimited data for 512kb
19:18.46antranigvor
19:18.55antranigvlet me count
19:19.29antranigv8euros a month for unlimited, 1MB/s speed
19:19.45antranigvbut works only on phones (:
19:21.50scottcKotCzarny: hah yes, it's not great in PL
19:22.07scottcIreland is good, I get fully "unlimited" included in 20 euro/mo
19:22.30antranigvscottc: speed?
19:23.26scottcLTE
19:23.32*** join/#maemo M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@ip-37-188-228-40.eurotel.cz)
19:23.46antranigvnice, toobad its not for N900 :P
19:23.52scottchah, yeah :D
19:23.58scottcworks well on my Jolla though
19:24.14antranigv:(
19:24.16antranigvjolla
19:24.20antranigvi want too
19:24.26antranigv#nomoney
19:24.30scottcheh
19:24.39scottcI got my N900 more recently than my Jolla
19:24.48antranigvlol
19:25.02antranigvi bought my N900 like 3 weaks ago
19:25.07antranigvnow I have 3 :P
19:25.11scottchah, mine was about 4 weeks ago
19:25.12scottc:D
19:25.18sixwheeledbeast^They have a Jolla in Ireland :O
19:25.21sixwheeledbeast^;)
19:25.23scottcahah
19:25.47scottcif it didn't have a resistive touch screen, I think the N900 might be my primary phone
19:25.58sixwheeledbeast^What made you get a N900 after your Jolla?
19:26.33scottcwell I saw them selling quite cheaply online, I was visiting a friend in Poland and it was something like ~40 euro on allegro.pl
19:26.43scottcand I wanted the hardware keyboard!
19:26.49sixwheeledbeast^:nod:
19:26.53scottcNokia N900 - 1/3 the price of a tohkbd ;)
19:27.06*** join/#maemo Haudegen (~quassel@85.124.51.57)
19:27.17sixwheeledbeast^I couldn't be without my N900, it my primary everything mobile wise.
19:28.25scottcit's a really fantastic phone
19:28.51scottcit speaks volumes that it's still entirely usable even though it came out in what, 2009?
19:29.13scottcI've gone through 3 Android phones since I got my first and that was in 2010
19:33.15sixwheeledbeast^Yep, concorde of the smartphone IMO.
19:33.30kerioit's hardly usable, really
19:33.49kerioeven the firefox 23 or whatever is quite ancient, by now
19:36.44sixwheeledbeast^how? I use it everyday.
19:37.02Sicelouses it daily too
19:37.35kerioalso no contact sync
19:37.54sixwheeledbeast^Yes, I agree some things are feeling dated but meh it WFM
19:39.48*** join/#maemo LauRoman|Alt (~LauRoman@5-14-44-249.residential.rdsnet.ro)
19:45.12bencohisnt ff23 freaking slow ?
19:45.18Siceloi'm one of those who never was interested in contact sync, so i don't miss it :) btw, it does sync with EAS ... my Outlook.com gets all of my N900 contacts
19:47.28*** join/#maemo FlameReaper-PC (~honoo-pc@175.139.20.78)
19:51.15KotCzarnytouch only devices have a toy feel
19:51.51KotCzarnyhaving keyboard and actual operating system you can tinker with is feeling like having real computer
19:52.30KotCzarnyi dont need hundreds of cores if all i could do is gaming/watching
19:52.59KotCzarnyi have puny 600mhz single core and im liking it because i have a media player that does exactly what i need
19:53.06KotCzarnyand more
19:53.07KotCzarny:)
19:54.27KotCzarnynever been a fan of contacts sync (because i have only few that i really need)
19:56.15KotCzarnyand i have a phone that can make/receive phone calls, woo-hoo
19:56.54bencoha phone that makes calls ? it cant be.
19:57.07KotCzarnyshocking, isn't it?
19:57.18bencohphones dont make calls, it's non-sense talk.
19:57.34KotCzarnythere was a time when it wasn't
20:10.08*** part/#maemo coopey (~simon@coopey.net)
20:14.24sixwheeledbeast^I must say as a phone the N900 was pants, but it must be the mosted used app on my device other than OMP.
20:15.15KotCzarnyseriously, phone makes phone calls
20:15.29KotCzarnyand it does it well
20:15.37KotCzarnyno drops, sound quality/mic are good
20:21.40sixwheeledbeast^KotCzarny: but missing a lot of features that mobiles had.
20:21.51KotCzarnyphone has to make calls
20:22.07KotCzarnyi dont care about shinies
20:22.20KotCzarnyn900 does it
20:22.26sixwheeledbeast^I said "as a phone" not "the phone app"
20:22.39KotCzarnywell, phone app is simple, but usable
20:23.09sixwheeledbeast^it's closed source and has bugs but yes usable
20:23.44KotCzarnytbh i've never spotted any bugs
20:25.09KotCzarnyi wonder why no one reverse engineered it yet
20:25.27sixwheeledbeast^try saving/dialling long phone numbers.
20:25.29freemangordonsixwheeledbeast^: hmm, what bugs has the phone app? besides that funky rotation, but it is more to h-d that to the application itself
20:25.44freemangordonaor rather the lack of RAM
20:25.46freemangordon*or
20:27.47sixwheeledbeast^freemangordon: Save a very long number and the UI fails to show contact name any more.
20:28.47*** join/#maemo Smily (~Smily@93-103-217-51.dynamic.t-2.net)
20:29.12sixwheeledbeast^I am sure there are others I found but fail to remember. Maybe b.m.o will remember
20:30.39sixwheeledbeast^Maybe we should consider removing dead Harmattan links from bmo front page...
20:35.52sixwheeledbeast^KotCzarny: bug10364 is very annoying
20:36.04sixwheeledbeast^as an example
20:38.18sixwheeledbeast^bug 10364
20:38.20povbot_04Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10364 Always displays the same number in call log for a multi-field contact
20:38.39*** join/#maemo M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@ip-89-177-124-246.net.upcbroadband.cz)
20:45.00freemangordonM4rtinK: any clue who is supposed to support supl.nokia.com? as its certificate expired on 16th
20:46.02M4rtinKfreemangordon: I guess the council needs to talk to Nokia about it ?
20:48.24freemangordonM4rtinK: so you think it is still Nokia that is responsible for it?
20:48.44*** join/#maemo geher (~hisbreht@176.194.213.113)
20:49.19M4rtinKfreemangordon: its their toplevel domain so they might at least know who is supposed to be running it
20:49.33freemangordonyeah, makes sense
20:51.25sixwheeledbeast^nokia is now Microsoft?
21:03.37keriobeen for a while
21:16.09*** part/#maemo erlehmann (~erlehmann@x55b45ade.dyn.telefonica.de)
21:19.36sixwheeledbeast^AFAIK company.nokia.com is the only site Nokia has. All others where transferred to M$. This maybe while nokia wait for .nokia TLD to be approved.
21:20.24antranigv.nokia TLD, nice
21:20.35antranigvi actually was waiting for .gnu (:
21:24.00bencoh.nokia, seriously ? :/
21:25.01sixwheeledbeast^bencoh: yep ICANN are now doing Brand TLDs
21:25.11bencohyeah, but stil ...
21:25.19sixwheeledbeast^but with some restrictions
21:25.24*** join/#maemo Venusaur (~wdwrwf@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez)
21:26.52sixwheeledbeast^n1.nokia.com is the only other site I can see working *.nokia.com
21:27.33sixwheeledbeast^I never even heard of zlauncher til now.
22:27.28*** join/#maemo Haudegen (~quassel@85.124.51.57)
22:32.43bencohzlauncher ?
23:06.28*** join/#maemo pentanol (~Unknown@unaffiliated/pentanol)
23:58.34*** join/#maemo pentanol (~Unknown@109.126.14.178)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.