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| 07:23.17 | Vajb | calbration number one with mugen battery failed with a new way. All went smoothly and device didn't reboot untill voltage dropped below 3248, but problem was vdq1 suddenly turning to vdq0. That happen around 3500mv. Any solutions or ideas? |
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| 09:11.10 | KotCzarny | vajb: charge/discharge it normally a few times? |
| 09:11.18 | KotCzarny | without calibrating etc |
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| 10:06.36 | Vajb | yeah, but it doesn't calibrate new mah value if vdq is set to 0 |
| 10:08.14 | Vajb | will see what happens on this cycle. I brought it down to 3700mv and will use it lightly till it turns of |
| 10:08.51 | Vajb | if it doesn't calibrate now i guess i'll have to try that old "recharge only one hour" trick |
| 10:09.45 | Vajb | im guessing that vdq was set to 0 because charge chip didn't believe that it can still be discharging... |
| 10:11.28 | Vajb | last measure capacity is 1547 and still if mugen keeps what it claims (being 2400mah) it's still less than 1000mah difference so chip shouldn't get confused |
| 10:12.10 | Vajb | but for me it seems it did or then im not understanding something (yet again) |
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| 15:25.37 | Vajb | ok it happen again. Voltage is 3750mv and vdq is set to 0 without any sane reason |
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| 15:57.48 | Sicelo | was it 1 before? |
| 15:59.48 | Vajb | yep |
| 15:59.59 | Vajb | like the first try also |
| 16:00.08 | Vajb | this was my scond try |
| 16:00.14 | Vajb | second* |
| 16:00.14 | Sicelo | but yes, iirc VDQ has its own cycle .. so KotCzarny's suggestion holds :) |
| 16:00.26 | Sicelo | just keep at it. |
| 16:00.43 | Vajb | i will :) |
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| 16:01.33 | Vajb | "dear doctor maemo. My device is suffering premature turn off of the vdq flag" |
| 16:01.41 | Vajb | XD |
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| 16:04.38 | Sicelo | see for example Docscrutinizer/ShadowJK comments on my question in http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-10-26.log.html#t2011-10-26T22:35:36 |
| 16:05.03 | Sicelo | so N900 can even calibrate 'mid-air' lol |
| 16:07.57 | Sicelo | another case of VDQ becoming 0 unexpectedly: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-05-12.log.html#t2012-05-12T05:06:47~ |
| 16:09.25 | Sicelo | but most likely your issue is this one .. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-01-24.log.html#t2013-01-24T19:49:08 "if it's too big a jump upwards, vdq goes to 0 and it wont learn" quoting ShadowJK again |
| 16:09.30 | Sicelo | :) |
| 16:11.12 | Vajb | yeah thats what i thought at a first place. Hence speculating about recharging only 1 hour |
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| 17:00.28 | KotCzarny | i think battery circuit doesnt like too big changes in capacity, so it has to be done few times before it gets to real value |
| 17:01.05 | KotCzarny | just ignore it and use device for a month |
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| 17:09.25 | ceene | Sicelo: i believe you're having problems with yappari |
| 17:10.01 | ceene | i'm out of town but will be releasing new version next weekend |
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| 17:31.20 | Sicelo | ok ceene :) |
| 17:31.24 | Sicelo | thanks |
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| 21:28.12 | kopple | hello everyone, I can use fMMS regularly for both receiving and sending. Still, I can't receive newer smartphones' SMSes if they feature some emoticons |
| 21:29.09 | kopple | if that matters, during one of my attempts I asked to send me a picture with emoticons inside an MMS and I got a picture with an "smil.xml". It was an Android smartphone |
| 21:30.04 | kopple | so I'm wondering if newer smartphones comply with an emoticons standard set with an .xml tagging system or something like that |
| 21:30.26 | kopple | what do you think about it? |
| 21:31.40 | scottc | I'm in no way knowledgeable about this (I use my N900 for games, Jolla as a phone) but googling around, I got this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9492041/android-what-to-do-with-application-smil-mime-type |
| 21:32.11 | scottc | not sure if that helps as I'm sure you can google things as well as I can, but just in case you hadn't found it |
| 21:35.38 | kopple | well I'm actually looking for information about these newer emoticons sets but I can't seem to find anything useful about it |
| 21:35.54 | kopple | I think devices became too close-sourced to even care about these things |
| 21:35.58 | scottc | could it be emoji that you're thinking of? |
| 21:37.26 | kopple | I'm researching |
| 21:37.56 | kopple | it's possible yes, but I'm not sure |
| 21:38.24 | kopple | when I get e-mails from Iphones sometimes they include this kind of symbols that are actual font characters in my mail client |
| 21:39.04 | scottc | that part sounds like emoji |
| 21:39.08 | bencoh | there is a thread about that on tmo, an article on thp's website, and a github project |
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| 21:39.23 | bencoh | (now to find the links ... :) |
| 21:39.35 | kopple | so may be, yes. I'm sure I never get SMSes coming from Windows Mobile phones if they include this sort of characters. I'm trying to realize if Win Mobile features them as plain emoticons while composing a message. |
| 21:39.42 | bencoh | there you go: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94027 |
| 21:39.58 | kopple | that's great bencoh |
| 21:40.12 | kopple | thanks a lot, I'm reading already |
| 21:40.38 | bencoh | :) |
| 21:41.17 | kopple | what's Harmoji exactly? A maemo program? |
| 21:42.18 | kopple | maybe this fix is more important than we realize for all maemo users.. I'd suggest that it is hightlighted somehow, or linked to in homepage ;) |
| 21:42.37 | beford | harmoji is harmattan only, no? |
| 21:43.19 | kopple | I'm waiting for hildon to load.. will never know :D |
| 21:43.40 | beford | Harmoji is the Harmattan implementation of Emoji. Harmoji enables the viewing of Emoji characters throughout the system, as well as inputting them. |
| 21:44.52 | kopple | ok... not good for maemo |
| 21:45.14 | kopple | my hildon isn't up yet .. gosh |
| 21:45.39 | beford | hildon desktop? or hildon browser? |
| 21:46.12 | kopple | oh excuse me.. I meant the app. manager |
| 21:46.33 | beford | oh, right |
| 21:51.05 | kopple | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?s=b1bf5cbec6b4c593a28d92a2325b1c60&t=93427&page=2 |
| 21:51.16 | kopple | someone seems to have a fix for maemo too |
| 21:56.04 | kopple | do you think this is safe anyway? I don't know.. |
| 21:56.53 | beford | as long as you backup the file |
| 21:57.10 | beford | I'd say it's safe |
| 21:57.21 | kopple | mmm.. ok. I need a real backup solution first |
| 21:57.34 | kopple | may I ask if you know a good backup software for maemo? |
| 21:58.08 | beford | there are instruction on that post to backup the file that needs patching |
| 21:58.21 | kopple | sms, contacts book, /home/user directory is easily copied via USB |
| 21:58.40 | beford | !backupmenu |
| 21:58.46 | beford | ~backupmenu |
| 21:58.46 | infobot | i guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 22:00.01 | kopple | I looked into backupmenu but it looks scary, I still fear I won't be able to flash again because of the U key that is needed for backupmenu if I recall right |
| 22:00.31 | kopple | so I would install it after backing up the things I wrote before, than save a whole copy of my OS with backupmenu tight after |
| 22:00.34 | kopple | right* after |
| 22:00.58 | kopple | then enable emojis, work awaits :D |
| 22:01.06 | beford | yea, well I wouldn't use backup menu just to patch that file |
| 22:01.12 | beford | I don't think it's that necesarry |
| 22:01.26 | kopple | sounds ok |
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| 22:01.52 | kopple | are SMSes and phonebook located somewhere within the /home/user/ directory? |
| 22:02.15 | kopple | so that if I compress it all they're included? |
| 22:04.27 | kopple | well, the built-in backup will save my SMS and phonebook indeed, I will just lose the MMSes |
| 22:05.07 | kopple | mmm.. not the phonebook :\ |
| 22:05.08 | lobito | I'd like to know, too. Where are SMSs stored? |
| 22:05.15 | beford | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.32 | beford | sqlite db |
| 22:07.34 | kopple | .rtcom-messaging-ui/draft.db may contain email drafts? |
| 22:09.04 | kopple | it would be nice to explore that db ;) anyway. I have one called el-v1.db |
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| 22:13.08 | Oksana | Yes, that holds SMS messages and phone call history? |
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| 22:14.12 | kopple | great |
| 22:14.23 | bencoh | kopple: what's wrong with your U key ? |
| 22:14.44 | kopple | Oksana, do you happen to know where the phonebook database is stored instead? |
| 22:15.06 | Oksana | Contacts? |
| 22:15.29 | kopple | bencoh when flashing last time I had to press U to enable the USB data transmission at boot-time |
| 22:15.34 | kopple | Oksana, yes |
| 22:15.42 | Oksana | I remember that there is a specific folder with images-of-contacts, crop-sized to proper dimensions... |
| 22:16.14 | Oksana | With each image being a separate file |
| 22:16.23 | Oksana | dives into X Terminal... |
| 22:16.28 | kopple | :) |
| 22:17.49 | Oksana | cd /home/user/.osso-abook/ |
| 22:18.02 | kopple | great |
| 22:18.35 | kopple | there's no better thing than manual backup :) |
| 22:26.30 | kopple | for the record, I found a copy of /home/user/.osso-abook/ called .osso-abook-backup also inside the official Backup Application output when including communications logs and calendar entries |
| 22:27.14 | kopple | it's not clear that it contains your contact list as well, but it does |
| 22:40.31 | Oksana | By the way, when you put human's birthday into abook, is it possible to specify: 1. Timezone; 2. birthtime? Yes, odd question... |
| 22:41.59 | Oksana | And even odder one: is it possible to add death-day for a human into abook? Like, a human you knew, died. You do not wish to erase him, but you do not wish to keep calling a dead-man, either... |
| 22:44.55 | bencoh | :] |
| 23:03.57 | kopple | sounds like .. mocking. Isn't it? |
| 23:22.09 | Oksana | No, it isn't. Mocking, it isn't. Also, I would like to have country-of-residence of a contact displayed prominently, and used somehow. For example, there should be a mechanism for checking that phone-numbers are "valid" (correspond to country) so that if you do try to call them from abroad (for whatever reason), the phone would have already pre-pended the correct telephone code? |
| 23:23.16 | kopple | :) |
| 23:23.57 | Oksana | Also, last-first name fields assume that Contact is always Human. What about Company as contact - what has to be entered as First-Last names? |
| 23:24.57 | Oksana | A map with locations of all contacts would be handy. Especially if it could include live location from those of contacts who allow you to see their location... |
| 23:25.47 | Oksana | But that's already out of scope of Address Book. It's more like a mapplet, tightly integrated with ABook and Clock... |
| 23:27.19 | Oksana | wonders if there are any recent time-zone changes which need to be integrated into Maemo 5 time-zone-table, and if they were integrated properly already... |
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