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| 00:11.01 | MonkeyofDoom | is there any way to prevent maemo from switching to speakers when headphones get unplugged? |
| 00:12.43 | Humpelst1lzchen | MonkeyofDoom: there is an app which does pause immediately |
| 00:14.34 | MonkeyofDoom | I have a slightly flaky headphone jack and I'd prefer if it just ignored jack-sense entirely |
| 00:15.16 | MonkeyofDoom | what's the app called? |
| 00:16.07 | totalizator | http://maemo.org/packages/view/headphoned/ |
| 00:31.46 | lopx | hi yeah and I use wifi lol |
| 00:31.49 | lopx | sorry I afkd |
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| 00:35.58 | stryngs | No worries lopx |
| 00:36.04 | stryngs | So whats your intentions with the n900?? |
| 00:36.30 | lopx | toy around |
| 00:36.33 | lopx | ;p |
| 00:37.07 | lopx | I'm having hard time flashing it though |
| 00:37.23 | lopx | windows nor linux is recognizing the usb |
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| 00:45.51 | stryngs | ouch |
| 00:45.53 | stryngs | That sucks |
| 00:46.14 | lopx | yeah having problems with my chronos watch too rofl |
| 00:46.28 | lopx | hence afk :p |
| 00:50.04 | totalizator | ) |
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| 06:16.24 | KotCzarny | huh, different switches, different compile failures |
| 06:16.25 | KotCzarny | fun |
| 06:17.40 | Vajb | MonkeyofDoom: open media player can pause also when head phones get unplugged. So no need for extra program if u use that. |
| 06:18.05 | KotCzarny | or just use and extender and some glue |
| 06:18.08 | KotCzarny | *an |
| 06:20.22 | Vajb | well someone like swiss knife and someone toolboxes :) |
| 06:20.50 | KotCzarny | most problems have more than one resolve |
| 06:20.52 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:21.03 | KotCzarny | unless it's m$ windows |
| 06:21.12 | KotCzarny | then it's just works or not |
| 06:21.24 | Vajb | yes thats why i like linux |
| 06:22.25 | Vajb | and mosly if something fails linux tells me why. Ms just gives bunch of numbers |
| 06:22.58 | KotCzarny | not entirely true, but yes, linux console and logs are easier to access |
| 07:07.05 | KotCzarny | sometimes i treat compiling stuff as a game |
| 07:07.12 | KotCzarny | adventure game |
| 07:07.27 | KotCzarny | trying every possible weird combination till something works |
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| 08:00.52 | sixwheeledbeast | MonkeyofDoom: OMP can be set to pause on headset removal. |
| 08:01.06 | sixwheeledbeast | oh Vajb already said that, sorry. |
| 08:01.25 | sixwheeledbeast | yawns |
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| 09:00.17 | KotCzarny | vajb: http://i.imgur.com/FonRU8X.jpg?1 |
| 09:00.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:02.01 | Vajb | KotCzarny: exactly my point :) |
| 09:02.33 | KotCzarny | i like the 'was that information helpful?' part |
| 09:02.49 | Vajb | yeah |
| 09:03.10 | Vajb | it's like they act like they care and change nothing |
| 09:04.03 | Vajb | dunno if outlook could be ran through dosprompt and see if it gave any error |
| 09:04.24 | KotCzarny | eventlog, most likely |
| 09:04.33 | sixwheeledbeast | meh, windoze. |
| 09:04.41 | KotCzarny | but information there is still consfusing |
| 09:04.47 | KotCzarny | usually some binary bytes |
| 09:05.08 | KotCzarny | sixwheeledbeast: meh, still trying to compile gcc 4.9.2 |
| 09:05.22 | KotCzarny | but looks like this time it could be successful |
| 09:05.41 | KotCzarny | compiling for 2h now |
| 09:05.50 | KotCzarny | earlier it was bailing out in ~1h |
| 09:20.53 | KotCzarny | drat. |
| 09:21.42 | sixwheeledbeast | BAIL |
| 09:21.47 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 09:22.11 | KotCzarny | 142 minutes, configure: error: unsupported system, cannot find sizeof (omp_lock_t) |
| 09:23.51 | bencoh | KotCzarny: on device ? |
| 09:23.55 | KotCzarny | sb |
| 09:24.05 | KotCzarny | compiling gcc on device would be.. |
| 09:24.06 | KotCzarny | slow |
| 09:24.34 | bencoh | yeah ... but I think some here tried :p |
| 09:24.53 | bencoh | are you building a crossgcc or "native" gcc ? |
| 09:25.00 | KotCzarny | "native" |
| 09:25.03 | KotCzarny | in armel target |
| 09:25.19 | bencoh | uh, using it will be slow :) |
| 09:25.21 | KotCzarny | so i can later tar.gz and move to device |
| 09:26.34 | bencoh | oh |
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| 10:09.43 | kolp | hm, my n900 seems to be silentyl dropping incoming sms sometimes from some people. has anyone seen this? |
| 10:10.01 | kolp | it's not the garbled event database thing |
| 10:10.04 | KotCzarny | did you install some call blocker? |
| 10:10.08 | kolp | no |
| 10:10.38 | KotCzarny | maybe your cell provider sucks? |
| 10:10.56 | kolp | that is a possibility as well, but I doubt it |
| 10:11.33 | KotCzarny | does it drop random or just from specific device? |
| 10:12.11 | kolp | the remote devices are at least apple and samsung, I think |
| 10:12.47 | kolp | and it's just from 3 people (as far as I know...) |
| 10:13.13 | kolp | and some txts get through |
| 10:14.30 | KotCzarny | sms have message validity time |
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| 10:15.39 | KotCzarny | but i guess you aren't disconnecting for 1-7 days |
| 10:15.49 | kolp | correct :) |
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| 10:27.53 | Sicelo | flash sms perhaps? |
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| 10:31.04 | KotCzarny | hmm, is sound output from n800 limited in any way? |
| 10:31.17 | KotCzarny | i have to turn the volume up on my stereo |
| 10:36.17 | kolp | Sicelo: no, normal sms |
| 10:37.19 | kerio | something something impedence |
| 10:37.37 | KotCzarny | kerio: hum? |
| 10:40.59 | Sicelo | output impendance of N800 not matched to input impendance of your stereo ... that how i understand him :) |
| 10:41.34 | KotCzarny | but most other devices with headphone socket qork just fine |
| 10:41.40 | KotCzarny | *work |
| 10:46.55 | Sicelo | unrelated question: in c, when you #include a header file, how do you know all the possible functions includes, and their syntax? |
| 10:47.07 | KotCzarny | you dont |
| 10:47.21 | KotCzarny | it's only to help compiler to check the syntax |
| 10:47.30 | KotCzarny | and prepare params etc |
| 10:47.42 | kerio | Sicelo: by reading the documentation |
| 10:47.43 | KotCzarny | linker glues all the objects with compiled functions |
| 10:48.01 | Sicelo | what documentation kerio :) that's what i want |
| 10:48.09 | kerio | i dunno, what do you want to use? |
| 10:48.09 | KotCzarny | what headers then |
| 10:48.33 | KotCzarny | try man sprintf etc |
| 10:49.16 | Sicelo | ah, thanks KotCzarny. looks ike that's what i needed :) |
| 10:49.56 | KotCzarny | also google works too |
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| 10:54.45 | Vajb | kolp: i've noticed that sometimes normal sms got treated as mms by n900. I guess that is because of some smileys. |
| 10:54.53 | sixwheeledbeast | kolp: That maybe a symptom of corrupt db file. |
| 10:55.15 | KotCzarny | how one corrupts sms db? |
| 10:55.25 | sixwheeledbeast | I have also had the odd issue above |
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| 10:59.42 | sixwheeledbeast | /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db |
| 11:00.35 | sixwheeledbeast | to clarify I have had Vajb's issue above, normally nessages from iOS IIRC. |
| 11:01.33 | bencoh | KotCzarny: prototypes arent here "just to help" ;) |
| 11:01.49 | KotCzarny | bencoh: i know, just simplified |
| 11:01.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:02.04 | sixwheeledbeast | I believe it's sqlite if want to try to open it and rescue parts of it. |
| 11:02.06 | bencoh | just a "lil" bit ;) |
| 11:02.12 | KotCzarny | a bit ;) |
| 11:02.37 | kolp | Vajb: I haven't had this yet |
| 11:04.38 | kolp | sixwheeledbeast: possibly. though it's weird that it's limited to these 3 people's sms. I've now inserted a new sim (same number) but will replace the events db next if the new sim doesn't change anything |
| 11:05.38 | KotCzarny | kolp, might be that it's just display problem |
| 11:06.01 | KotCzarny | and sim won't help as sms' are stored in phone db |
| 11:07.46 | kolp | what do you mean, display problem? the messages are not in the events db and I receive no notification through the phone anyway. so it's either the provider, the sim or the modem (or the related software) |
| 11:08.06 | KotCzarny | open it with some sqlite explorer |
| 11:08.12 | sixwheeledbeast | well you can rule it out by backing up db to some else MyDocs or uSD, then rm and touch the db file. Get the 3 people to send messages. If not the issue restore db, reboot. |
| 11:08.12 | KotCzarny | check for oddities |
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| 11:45.49 | KotCzarny | checking for the value of EOF... configure: error: computing EOF failed |
| 11:45.53 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 11:47.49 | KotCzarny | why the heck it tries to use system binutils |
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| 11:53.39 | bencoh | because 1. you didnt tell it where to find binutils 2. you're not building a cross but a native compiler ? (just guessing) |
| 11:53.45 | KotCzarny | i did |
| 11:53.54 | KotCzarny | explicitely and by PATH |
| 11:54.24 | KotCzarny | but my guess it's scratchbox uses some cheating when one calls tools |
| 11:54.44 | bencoh | hm, that too |
| 11:56.40 | Sicelo | +1 .. i know that problem does exist for perl-dependent applications in SB |
| 11:56.57 | KotCzarny | not respecting PATH sucks |
| 11:57.23 | KotCzarny | and they do it on glibc level, because running in bash4 doesn't change anything |
| 11:58.27 | bencoh | LD_PRELOAD ? |
| 11:58.50 | KotCzarny | echo $LD_PRELOAD |
| 11:58.54 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.57 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 11:59.06 | KotCzarny | nice tip |
| 11:59.09 | KotCzarny | gotta try without |
| 11:59.22 | bencoh | I think hell's gonna break loose :) |
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| 11:59.28 | KotCzarny | we will see |
| 11:59.54 | bencoh | I'd rather build a cross-canadian |
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| 12:00.09 | KotCzarny | i want native gcc on n900 |
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| 12:00.51 | bencoh | a cross-canadian build would build on x86 (sb) a cross gcc running on arm for arm targets |
| 12:01.03 | bencoh | and ... actually you dont need sb for that :) |
| 12:01.30 | KotCzarny | why nobody compiled gcc-4.9.2 for fremantle then? |
| 12:01.35 | bencoh | I think that's your best option |
| 12:02.05 | KotCzarny | actually unsetting LD_PRELOAD looks like it's going on |
| 12:02.22 | KotCzarny | or just goes slower |
| 12:02.32 | bencoh | slower I think |
| 12:02.32 | KotCzarny | and didnt reach the error point yet |
| 12:02.53 | bencoh | it probably uses arm binaries instead of sb "native" tools |
| 12:03.02 | KotCzarny | and that's good imo |
| 12:03.05 | bencoh | (which means running in qemu) |
| 12:03.17 | KotCzarny | exactly what i wanted it to do |
| 12:04.28 | bencoh | what do you need 4.9.2 for ? |
| 12:04.37 | KotCzarny | nah, same error, i might restart whole compilation sinca start |
| 12:04.57 | KotCzarny | bencoh: arm optimizations |
| 12:05.33 | bencoh | are those significantly better than in 4.7 ? |
| 12:05.39 | KotCzarny | is 4.7 stable? |
| 12:05.46 | bencoh | there is a 4.7 toolchain around, used for thumb |
| 12:05.46 | KotCzarny | also, where to grab it |
| 12:05.52 | KotCzarny | nah, no thumb here |
| 12:06.07 | KotCzarny | stock fremantle |
| 12:06.09 | bencoh | http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_(gcc4.7.2-linaro) |
| 12:06.16 | bencoh | should work without thumb as well |
| 12:06.35 | bencoh | but you'd still need stdc++ from 4.7.2 |
| 12:06.52 | KotCzarny | no worries, it's small enough |
| 12:07.00 | bencoh | (same goes for 4.9 anyway ... C++ ""ABI"", STL, bleh) |
| 12:07.36 | bencoh | oh, that's a cross, not a native compiler for on-device compilation |
| 12:20.51 | KotCzarny | k, time to change strategy |
| 12:20.57 | KotCzarny | no bootstrap now |
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| 13:57.26 | KotCzarny | checking for gets declaration... configure: error: Could not determine word size. |
| 13:57.29 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 14:01.30 | KotCzarny | maybe i shall try 4.8 or 4.7 first |
| 14:03.27 | bencoh | building on x86_64 ? |
| 14:03.32 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 14:03.44 | KotCzarny | good ol' 32bit |
| 14:03.57 | KotCzarny | pity i don't have few more n900's |
| 14:04.14 | KotCzarny | i would've just compile on device with -j8 |
| 14:04.18 | bencoh | what for ? distcc ? :D |
| 14:04.18 | KotCzarny | and distcc |
| 14:04.21 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 14:04.39 | bencoh | I'd just crossbuild ... :p |
| 14:04.56 | KotCzarny | remember 'i want newer gcc on device' argument? |
| 14:06.02 | bencoh | yeah, and my cross-canadian idea should still work ;) |
| 14:06.35 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 16:45.16 | lopx | hi |
| 16:48.08 | Sicelo | hi lopx |
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| 18:57.04 | Sicelo | i have this application which keeps a log on linux. i want to be able to 'react' to a particular event as soon as it happens. what would you suggest here :) |
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| 19:02.13 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 19:02.32 | KotCzarny | glue on the bottom of my laptop smears itself from the whole day of compiling |
| 19:02.57 | KotCzarny | (from the wifi mac label) |
| 19:04.54 | Sicelo | guess this is the 'poor man's way' |
| 19:04.56 | Sicelo | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4331309/shellscript-to-monitor-a-log-file-if-keyword-triggers-then-execute-a-command |
| 19:09.55 | KotCzarny | did i miss something? |
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| 19:18.32 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 19:18.37 | KotCzarny | gcc 4.7.4 compiled |
| 19:18.38 | KotCzarny | yaaay |
| 19:22.58 | Elleo | .32 |
| 19:23.01 | Elleo | oops |
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