| 00:24.32 | bencoh | it's pricy considering the "oldish" design .... but not really insane |
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| 00:51.56 | Oksana | When FPTF gets everything working on Neo900... It will be far saner than new-ish design (likely without a keyboard, and with a capacitive touch-screen instead of resistive one) where all new-ish hardware will have closed, limited software. |
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| 07:13.27 | KotCzarny | ok, who accepts projects to garage? |
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| 07:55.02 | sixwheeledbeast | You need to register to upload to garage. |
| 08:11.20 | KotCzarny | swb: i already have one project in garage |
| 08:11.35 | KotCzarny | but apparently every new project need manual approval |
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| 09:38.54 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 09:39.07 | KotCzarny | +1 for active garage admins |
| 09:39.18 | KotCzarny | also, i just missed great app name possibility... |
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| 10:31.38 | merlin1991 | KotCzarny: it was me :D |
| 10:32.48 | merlin1991 | btw did you get an email notification when I approved the project? I don't even know if it does that ... |
| 10:33.42 | KotCzarny | merlin: yeah |
| 10:33.56 | KotCzarny | also, it said that it was you |
| 10:34.03 | merlin1991 | interesting |
| 10:34.32 | KotCzarny | well, not in the email, but on project page |
| 10:34.40 | KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/project/admin/history.php?group_id=2392 |
| 10:34.41 | KotCzarny | here |
| 10:35.14 | bencoh | "This project's administrator will have to grant you permission to view this page" :-) |
| 10:35.22 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 10:35.36 | bencoh | secret stuff is secret ;> |
| 10:35.42 | KotCzarny | but summary should be visible by anyone? |
| 10:35.43 | KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/oscp/ |
| 10:35.55 | bencoh | yeah it is |
| 10:37.08 | KotCzarny | now i have to remember how do i package things for release |
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| 10:37.39 | bencoh | there is a wiki page for that :) |
| 10:37.56 | KotCzarny | nah, i have built packages for osc few years ago |
| 10:38.04 | KotCzarny | i'll reuse the trees |
| 10:38.45 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: why is short description mangled? it strips html yet, it ignores newlines too |
| 10:39.15 | merlin1991 | no idea I can look into it on the weekend |
| 10:39.16 | KotCzarny | easy fix would be adding pre-formatted style for that part |
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| 10:39.26 | KotCzarny | shall i make a bug or just nag you? |
| 10:39.35 | merlin1991 | just nag me .D |
| 10:39.43 | KotCzarny | i shall |
| 10:39.44 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 10:40.15 | KotCzarny | not that many people read garage descriptions ;) |
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| 10:48.00 | supergaban | ping |
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| 11:02.49 | KotCzarny | is libgdbm3 installed by default on fremantle? |
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| 11:22.38 | Melissa_ | Hello |
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| 11:35.37 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 11:35.46 | KotCzarny | isn't one goodbye enough? |
| 11:35.51 | KotCzarny | or did you buy another n900? |
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| 11:51.42 | Melissa_ | KotCzarny I'm missing my n900 already :p |
| 11:51.57 | Melissa_ | It turned out that a lot of the issues I had with it were softwarematically |
| 11:52.04 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:52.22 | Melissa_ | After the flash, the vibration mechanism suddenly worked again, battery life was a lot longer |
| 11:52.27 | KotCzarny | i would laugh if the vibra started to work after reflash |
| 11:52.31 | Melissa_ | It was fast enough to browse the web normally again |
| 11:52.37 | Melissa_ | It did! |
| 11:52.41 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 11:52.53 | KotCzarny | so, you sold fully functioning device? |
| 11:53.06 | KotCzarny | luckily you can buy another for half price |
| 11:53.17 | Melissa_ | When I ran the vibration command first, I'd get an error message and I inferred from the information on the forums that it meant the mechanism broke |
| 11:53.29 | Melissa_ | But apparently it didin't |
| 11:54.00 | Melissa_ | didn't* |
| 11:54.08 | Melissa_ | My only issue with it is still the keyboard, but it's bearable |
| 11:55.07 | KotCzarny | yeah, kb is so-so in nits |
| 11:57.00 | bencoh | Melissa_: haha |
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| 12:21.38 | KotCzarny | fakeroot: preload library `libfakeroot-sysv.so' not found, aborting. |
| 12:21.40 | KotCzarny | the heck? |
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| 12:44.22 | KotCzarny | o.o |
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| 12:51.50 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: you don't need manual approval for extras(-devel) packages. There is a voting system to promote packages to extras via extras-testing. |
| 12:52.18 | KotCzarny | sixwheeledbeast: so i don't need to start with garage? |
| 12:52.53 | sixwheeledbeast | If you have uploaded a package already you have a valid garage account |
| 12:53.24 | KotCzarny | yes, but to create a project in garage you have to get approval for that particular project |
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| 13:12.40 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: Do you mean a garage project page? |
| 13:12.45 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 13:13.29 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah, I have never bothered with that. It's a part of garage that hardly gets used now. |
| 13:13.36 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 13:13.55 | KotCzarny | maybe is misunderstood your question |
| 13:14.12 | sixwheeledbeast | I would still think you can setup a page without any hassle |
| 13:14.20 | sixwheeledbeast | possibly |
| 13:14.23 | KotCzarny | no, not the page, whole project |
| 13:14.45 | sixwheeledbeast | define project |
| 13:15.28 | KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/oscp/ |
| 13:15.31 | KotCzarny | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osc/ |
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| 13:15.40 | KotCzarny | those are two projects bound to my login on garage |
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| 13:16.58 | sixwheeledbeast | Right well I have packages in extras but don't have project pages for them, as I say some people don't bother with the project page at all. |
| 13:17.33 | KotCzarny | i was sure that to upgrade project to extras-devel one has to have project in garage first |
| 13:17.42 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: no |
| 13:18.15 | sixwheeledbeast | You need a bugtracker link which many point to TMO now. |
| 13:20.58 | sixwheeledbeast | Your method was the correct way 5+ years ago and still is. People do other thinks now, links to github or TMO. Mainly due to Garage downtime at migration from Nokia. |
| 13:20.59 | KotCzarny | anyway, deb is ready, now i have to remember how to upload it and put in extras-devel |
| 13:21.59 | sixwheeledbeast | you can upload using extras-assistant or scp, scp you will need to setup keys in garage if you haven't allready |
| 13:23.51 | sixwheeledbeast | there's a wiki page with all the details on WMO. |
| 13:24.11 | sixwheeledbeast | "Uploading to extras" I beleive the page is called |
| 13:24.31 | KotCzarny | checking the package for any breakage first |
| 13:24.45 | KotCzarny | btw. is there a way to add icon to desktop on install? |
| 13:25.04 | KotCzarny | or some system prompter that would do it? |
| 13:26.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Not that I know off, you could maybe script in a postinst file but I would find adding an icon automatically annoying myself. |
| 13:28.03 | KotCzarny | i know, that's why i ask about proper way |
| 13:28.12 | KotCzarny | on n800 there was a prompt to add to menu |
| 13:31.04 | sixwheeledbeast | never used an N800, on N900 it is added to the applications list menu. If you want it on the desktop you can add a desktop shortcut yourself. |
| 13:34.59 | KotCzarny | ok |
| 13:35.06 | KotCzarny | upped to extras-devel non-free |
| 13:35.11 | KotCzarny | will i get any notification? |
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| 13:39.26 | KotCzarny | Server Error |
| 13:39.29 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.45 | bencoh | I think it takes "some time" |
| 13:45.52 | bencoh | but I'm not sure/dont remember :) |
| 13:46.04 | KotCzarny | any feedback from the tools wouldn't be bad |
| 13:46.26 | KotCzarny | upped the .deb with scp |
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| 14:00.50 | KotCzarny | ok, anyone able to look at uploader queue possible errors? |
| 14:04.06 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 14:25.07 | KotCzarny | i think autobuilder runs every 10 minutes |
| 14:25.25 | KotCzarny | and i upped deb more than 30 minutes ago |
| 14:25.37 | KotCzarny | shall i wait more before trying anything else? |
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| 14:37.15 | drathir | KotCzarny: i guess it depends on packages in queue... |
| 14:37.36 | KotCzarny | drathir: can i check it somehow? |
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| 14:39.38 | drathir | KotCzarny: honestly not sure if queue is publically shared... |
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| 14:41.30 | KotCzarny | builder seems idling |
| 14:41.40 | KotCzarny | last package built yesterday |
| 14:42.02 | KotCzarny | and i bet even less traffic in non-free |
| 14:42.30 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: ping |
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| 15:19.45 | erlehmann | anyone has an idea how i can get a rell compose key? |
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| 15:20.34 | Sicelo | a what? |
| 15:21.39 | erlehmann | Sicelo a real compose key |
| 15:21.46 | erlehmann | Sicelo it seems multi_key opens a dialogue |
| 15:21.51 | erlehmann | for charakters |
| 15:21.57 | erlehmann | but i want real compose behaviour |
| 15:22.53 | erlehmann | Sicelo i found out when i remapped multi_key |
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| 15:34.25 | KotCzarny | erlehmann: maybe it's stolen in maemo |
| 15:34.37 | erlehmann | KotCzarny explain! |
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| 15:34.54 | KotCzarny | you've said it opens menu |
| 15:35.49 | erlehmann | yes |
| 15:36.28 | erlehmann | how can i unsteal it |
| 15:36.31 | erlehmann | steal it back |
| 15:36.33 | erlehmann | i want composings |
| 15:37.18 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40806 |
| 15:38.16 | erlehmann | > The "Compose" key is defined in the rx-51 kbd configuration as "Fn + Ctrl". But that presently triggers the supplementary virtual keyboard... |
| 15:38.17 | erlehmann | that is it |
| 15:38.30 | KotCzarny | apparently typing fn-left then e gets e' |
| 15:39.29 | bencoh | erlehmann: I use dead chars instead of composing |
| 15:39.35 | APic | Herr Lehmann! ⥠|
| 15:39.43 | erlehmann | bencoh i have made unifont |
| 15:39.46 | bencoh | but if you really want a compose key, remap <LCTL> |
| 15:39.50 | erlehmann | i mean |
| 15:39.54 | erlehmann | i made unifont glyphs |
| 15:40.00 | erlehmann | and use unifont on n900 |
| 15:40.06 | erlehmann | so i can send elephants and shit |
| 15:40.11 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:40.57 | bencoh | erlehmann: {shift,fn}+LCTL is currently mapped to Multi_key |
| 15:41.06 | erlehmann | bencoh yeah |
| 15:41.07 | erlehmann | i know |
| 15:41.13 | bencoh | just change that part :) |
| 15:41.14 | erlehmann | bencoh but that triggers the overlay |
| 15:41.23 | erlehmann | i mapped other keys to multi_key |
| 15:41.27 | erlehmann | and it triggered the overlay then |
| 15:41.30 | erlehmann | no composing possible |
| 15:41.51 | bencoh | it should be the other way around |
| 15:41.54 | erlehmann | ððððððððððððððððððð |
| 15:41.56 | bencoh | change the LCTL mapping |
| 15:42.00 | erlehmann | explain |
| 15:42.11 | erlehmann | please |
| 15:42.23 | erlehmann | what exactly should i map if i want a compose key? |
| 15:43.32 | bencoh | LCTL shouldnt map to Multi_key, so just map it to something else ... Menu, for instance |
| 15:43.48 | bencoh | then define a compose key (to the mapped key you just defined) |
| 15:43.54 | bencoh | (eg Menu in my example) |
| 15:45.03 | erlehmann | bencoh i do not explain. i thought multi_key is the compose thing. |
| 15:45.10 | erlehmann | so i mapped shift+fn+a to multi_key |
| 15:45.16 | erlehmann | and it still triggered the overlay |
| 15:45.26 | bencoh | multi_key is not a compose key |
| 15:45.46 | erlehmann | oh okay |
| 15:45.50 | erlehmann | i am of stupid it seems |
| 15:46.06 | bencoh | well, maybe setxkbmap -option compose:Multi_Key would define it as a compose key |
| 15:46.07 | erlehmann | i thought xmodmap, multi_!ey ⦠|
| 15:46.12 | erlehmann | i see |
| 15:46.53 | erlehmann | nope |
| 15:46.54 | erlehmann | it does not |
| 15:47.10 | APic | bencoh: What the Heck is Multi_key then, if not Compose? |
| 15:47.48 | bencoh | APic: it becomes a Compose key if you ask Xorg to use it as one :) |
| 15:48.54 | bencoh | (it might be default on standard desktop conf, but either it's not on maemo, or hildon grabs it |
| 15:49.06 | APic | Ok |
| 15:49.09 | APic | Good |
| 15:49.12 | APic | Thank You. |
| 15:49.57 | bencoh | hmm, actually, looks like it is, I can compose stuff with it in xterm :) |
| 15:50.19 | erlehmann | bencoh oh indeed? |
| 15:50.29 | erlehmann | i cannot |
| 15:50.33 | erlehmann | what is different with you |
| 15:50.54 | bencoh | real xterm, not osso-xterm ;) |
| 15:51.04 | erlehmann | i seeee |
| 15:51.05 | KotCzarny | yeah, apps that dont use hildon |
| 15:51.06 | bencoh | it's not a gtk application |
| 15:51.12 | erlehmann | so where do i get real xterm |
| 15:51.13 | bencoh | (gtk/hildon/qt/whatever) |
| 15:51.51 | KotCzarny | i remember my virtual keyboard triggered showing maemo on-screen-keyboard when i hit 'enter' |
| 15:51.57 | erlehmann | i see |
| 15:52.00 | erlehmann | how do disable hildon |
| 15:52.05 | KotCzarny | you dont |
| 15:52.12 | KotCzarny | or you install debian |
| 15:52.17 | erlehmann | i have |
| 15:52.23 | bencoh | erlehmann: that's why I told you to remap LCTL to something else :) |
| 15:52.36 | erlehmann | bencoh but then i have no LCTL |
| 15:52.40 | erlehmann | so hildon grabs LCTL |
| 15:52.43 | erlehmann | right? |
| 15:52.47 | erlehmann | fn+ctrl triggers overlay |
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| 15:53.35 | bencoh | I think hildon grabs Multi_key, but I'm not sure |
| 15:54.08 | bencoh | Multi_Key being fn+ctrl, as defined in rx-51 |
| 15:54.24 | KotCzarny | erlehmann: if you only need compose to enter language specific chars, i suggest mapping those chars to unused spaces |
| 15:54.33 | erlehmann | i install xterm now |
| 15:54.39 | merlin1991 | KotCzarny: pong, but freemangordon is better acquainted with the builder than me |
| 15:55.18 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: i tried to up the .deb to non-free in extras-devel, is .changes mandatory ? |
| 15:55.34 | merlin1991 | iirc .changes triggers the import |
| 15:55.38 | KotCzarny | ahm |
| 15:55.53 | KotCzarny | and then, if i reup .deb with the same name, will it be replaced? |
| 15:55.57 | KotCzarny | or just ignored? |
| 15:56.22 | merlin1991 | I think if you don't bump the version the builder goes mad |
| 15:56.56 | KotCzarny | i hate it. version string is in so many places |
| 15:57.05 | merlin1991 | huh? |
| 15:57.13 | KotCzarny | in debian/ dir |
| 15:57.21 | merlin1991 | it's only once in debian/changelog |
| 15:57.30 | merlin1991 | the rest should be done by dpkg-buildpackage for you |
| 15:57.36 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 15:57.40 | KotCzarny | nice to know |
| 15:57.50 | KotCzarny | right now i'm waiting for the initial import |
| 15:58.03 | KotCzarny | 3 more minutes |
| 15:58.35 | KotCzarny | pity i have no feedback from the uploader script in repository |
| 16:00.49 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 16:01.16 | KotCzarny | unless clock on repository.maemo.org is wrong, package didn't show up |
| 16:01.21 | KotCzarny | :/ |
| 16:02.35 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: can you help me somehow? do you have access to the logs or something? |
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| 16:13.03 | bencoh | erlehmann: compose doesnt really work properly in my setup anyway (this could be because I'm using latches, but I'm not sure) |
| 16:13.27 | erlehmann | ._. |
| 16:13.28 | bencoh | I cant compose characters entered with shift for instance |
| 16:13.28 | erlehmann | latches? |
| 16:13.39 | bencoh | ISO_Level2_Latch / ISO_Level3_Latch |
| 16:13.41 | bencoh | xkb latches |
| 16:15.09 | bencoh | allows me to mimic the way shift/fn work in hildon (you dont need to keep fn/shift pressed to get alternate char) |
| 16:15.47 | merlin1991 | KotCzarny: I'll have a look |
| 16:18.53 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: much obliged |
| 16:19.15 | merlin1991 | by the way where exactly did you upload to and what was the package name? |
| 16:20.09 | KotCzarny | oscp_0.9.7_armel.deb |
| 16:20.16 | KotCzarny | to extras-devel non-free |
| 16:20.41 | merlin1991 | no I mean the exact upload path to drop.maemo |
| 16:21.15 | KotCzarny | scp oscp_0.9.7.dsc oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes oscp_0.9.7_armel.deb kotczarny@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/e |
| 16:21.15 | KotCzarny | xtras-devel/incoming-nonfree/fremantle/ |
| 16:22.20 | merlin1991 | okay at least the file is not there anymore |
| 16:23.02 | KotCzarny | so, any errors or it will show in ~40 minutes? |
| 16:23.35 | merlin1991 | but it's not in staging, so I'll go dig up the logs ... |
| 16:23.42 | KotCzarny | thx |
| 16:23.53 | merlin1991 | one potential problem is |
| 16:24.03 | merlin1991 | you had .changes first on your command line |
| 16:24.15 | merlin1991 | it has to go up last |
| 16:24.31 | merlin1991 | but iirc the import runs every 5 mins or so, hence you mus have been quite unlucky |
| 16:24.32 | KotCzarny | is .dsc required as well? |
| 16:24.45 | merlin1991 | if it is refrenced in the .changes file yes |
| 16:25.11 | KotCzarny | k, upped |
| 16:25.51 | merlin1991 | heh this is going to fail |
| 16:26.02 | merlin1991 | 14f382a19a7b0b2f23e5c0a08cdbff85 2272502 user/multimedia extra oscp_0.9.7.tar.gz is part of your .changes |
| 16:26.11 | KotCzarny | hrm |
| 16:26.16 | merlin1991 | you need to build with dpkg-buildpackage -b so it does not do a source build |
| 16:26.18 | merlin1991 | but binary only |
| 16:26.24 | KotCzarny | ahm |
| 16:28.06 | KotCzarny | reupped |
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| 16:29.55 | KotCzarny | merlin1991: really good idea would be to send error logs to the developer on failed imports |
| 16:30.05 | KotCzarny | otherwise it's just stabbing in the dark |
| 16:30.15 | merlin1991 | heh tell me about it |
| 16:30.28 | KotCzarny | so, anything changed now? |
| 16:31.03 | merlin1991 | yeah I don't see the files in the dir, even though the import didn't run yet |
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| 16:32.49 | merlin1991 | ah wait it did run |
| 16:34.06 | merlin1991 | Checking .changes file... |
| 16:34.07 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.07 | merlin1991 | oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes file OK |
| 16:34.07 | merlin1991 | Rejecting oscp_0.9.7_armel.changes |
| 16:34.11 | merlin1991 | something wrong about your .changes |
| 16:34.15 | merlin1991 | I don't have any further info |
| 16:34.59 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 16:36.18 | KotCzarny | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tWEJ3ep8 |
| 16:36.26 | KotCzarny | this is the contents |
| 16:39.14 | merlin1991 | hm no idea what exactly the import dislikes about it |
| 16:39.37 | KotCzarny | i'll try to trim it somehwat |
| 16:39.38 | merlin1991 | you could try setting up a local reprepro package archive, reprepro usually gives quite descriptive error messages |
| 16:40.22 | KotCzarny | reupped trimmed file, can you check if it went through? |
| 16:41.32 | merlin1991 | went through |
| 16:41.35 | merlin1991 | what did you trim? |
| 16:41.37 | KotCzarny | woo-hoo! |
| 16:41.54 | merlin1991 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/non-free/o/oscp/ |
| 16:41.58 | KotCzarny | in debian/control there is XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name: |
| 16:42.11 | KotCzarny | which was described as 'that shows to the users on install prompt' |
| 16:42.22 | KotCzarny | thought it's multiline decription |
| 16:42.25 | KotCzarny | apparently it's now |
| 16:42.27 | KotCzarny | *not |
| 16:43.12 | merlin1991 | XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name is just the name in ham |
| 16:45.45 | merlin1991 | ie openmediaplayer has "Maemo-Display-Name: Open Media Player" |
| 16:46.00 | merlin1991 | it's what you see in the programm manager application list |
| 16:46.12 | merlin1991 | the actual description is taken from description (which is multiline) |
| 16:46.25 | KotCzarny | ok, thanks a lot |
| 16:46.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:47.46 | KotCzarny | next step, betatesting and promoting to extras! |
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| 16:51.00 | merlin1991 | yeah next step use autobuilder and get aways from the non-free ;) |
| 16:51.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:51.21 | bencoh | +1 |
| 16:51.23 | KotCzarny | merlin, that would be harder |
| 16:51.30 | merlin1991 | how come? |
| 16:51.31 | KotCzarny | as i patch few libs to do what i need |
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| 16:51.46 | KotCzarny | so i would need to upload them too and make them buildable |
| 16:52.00 | merlin1991 | where's the problem with that? :D |
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| 16:52.13 | KotCzarny | hem, i hate redundancy :) |
| 16:52.25 | merlin1991 | btw how do you deploy the modified libs now then? |
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| 16:52.29 | KotCzarny | that's why i figured out how to drop all the deps |
| 16:52.45 | KotCzarny | libxmp.a |
| 16:52.46 | KotCzarny | etc |
| 16:53.19 | KotCzarny | so even if i use ~10 additional media libs, i only actually need system deps |
| 16:53.39 | merlin1991 | so statically linked, then just do it like vlc and have everything in your source tree ;) |
| 16:54.18 | KotCzarny | still, i invite you to test oscp |
| 16:54.31 | KotCzarny | you could be positively surprised |
| 16:55.14 | KotCzarny | it can act as standalone player for n900, or you can install oscp-core on htpc or n800 near your hifi setup and use n900 as a remote |
| 17:01.13 | Sicelo | oscp is non-free? |
| 17:01.23 | KotCzarny | non-free in the sense no source |
| 17:01.29 | KotCzarny | otherwise free |
| 17:01.39 | Sicelo | hmm |
| 17:01.52 | KotCzarny | the source is on sourceforge |
| 17:02.31 | KotCzarny | i just shrugged at the idea of having to do as merlin said |
| 17:02.46 | KotCzarny | would have to setup/upload megs everytime |
| 17:02.58 | KotCzarny | tens of megs |
| 17:06.36 | KotCzarny | and if you have any feedback, please drop it there: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 |
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| 17:08.55 | KotCzarny | right now my n800 is sitting on top of the stereo and playing flacs from dir mounted via sshfs from the computer i have at another place, and is controlled from the other side of the room from a laptop and/or n900 |
| 17:10.41 | KotCzarny | i wonder if there is pygtk for iphone |
| 17:16.27 | zGrr | which player do you use? |
| 17:16.52 | KotCzarny | oscp |
| 17:17.13 | KotCzarny | and if you ask which libs i embedded see the talk.maemo.org page i pasted |
| 17:17.41 | zGrr | so it is console player. I mean no gui |
| 17:17.59 | KotCzarny | not entirely true |
| 17:18.02 | KotCzarny | there is gui |
| 17:18.03 | zGrr | i see |
| 17:18.13 | KotCzarny | but core is ncurses or daemonized |
| 17:18.32 | KotCzarny | gui is written in pygtk now |
| 17:18.40 | KotCzarny | but you can even use telnet to control core |
| 17:18.41 | zGrr | I have to give it a try |
| 17:19.02 | KotCzarny | for keys see mentioned tmo page |
| 17:19.09 | zGrr | didn't touch my n810 for some time |
| 17:19.35 | KotCzarny | for n8x0 i havent' build .deb yet, but you can grab binary from sourceforge |
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| 17:19.54 | zGrr | great |
| 17:20.40 | KotCzarny | and pygtk gui works on all platforms (n8x0/n900/pc) |
| 17:20.55 | bencoh | KotCzarny: why did you need to patch your deps ? |
| 17:21.18 | KotCzarny | bencoh: quick example, sid2-libs is c++ only, i had to add c-bindings |
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| 17:24.51 | KotCzarny | btw. do fremantle apps work on n9/jolla etc? |
| 17:26.35 | bencoh | hm ... not really |
| 17:28.01 | KotCzarny | eh, all you can grumble about m$ windows, win95 apps mostly work even on latest incarnations |
| 17:29.52 | bencoh | hmm, looks like HtheB had something working at some point |
| 17:29.58 | bencoh | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX6axn-Id_E |
| 17:30.25 | KotCzarny | qemu maybe |
| 17:32.04 | bencoh | I doubt that |
| 17:32.29 | KotCzarny | chroot Maemo 5 PR1.3 |
| 17:32.33 | bencoh | probably |
| 17:32.34 | KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84987 |
| 17:33.21 | KotCzarny | Due to the chroot using the Harmattan dbus, and the fact that Maemo relies heavily on dbus to work I think it's futile to try to make hildon-desktop work from within the chroot |
| 17:33.22 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 17:34.02 | KotCzarny | right. they made it too complcated so the next os iteration couldn't run |
| 17:35.00 | bencoh | it's not the same project ... not even the same team |
| 17:35.20 | KotCzarny | that's why it sucks product-line wise |
| 17:35.47 | KotCzarny | similar thing happening on android |
| 17:35.56 | KotCzarny | 2.3.5? too bad chump |
| 17:36.06 | KotCzarny | </rant> |
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| 17:40.28 | sixwheeledbeast | KotCzarny: the build cauldron is here https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/ BTW. This is where I get my autobuilder debug info from. Doesn't seem to have non-free packages there tho. |
| 17:41.07 | KotCzarny | swb: but it's only for builder (ie. free) |
| 17:41.17 | KotCzarny | non-free don't go through builder |
| 17:41.45 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: oh; now that's cool :) |
| 17:41.47 | sixwheeledbeast | yes. I spotted your uploading to non-free so binary only. |
| 17:42.09 | KotCzarny | those mails should go to the project owners tho |
| 17:42.20 | KotCzarny | at least via cc |
| 17:42.49 | sixwheeledbeast | A long time ago I believe they did, pre-Maemo migration that I spoke about earlier. |
| 17:48.18 | KotCzarny | i wonder if i can drag-scroll lists in pygtk |
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| 21:38.05 | zed2k | hi |
| 21:38.43 | zed2k | is Ovekaaven, the developer of the syncevolution port, here on IRC by any chance? |
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| 21:52.41 | zed2k | nevermind. thanks |
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