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| 17:26.03 | Luke-Jr | is there a way to get an updated browser on Maemo? :/ |
| 17:26.21 | Luke-Jr | Uber Mobile does not like the current one |
| 17:27.43 | totalizator | ~qml-browser |
| 17:28.39 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: wait, we dont need an app to use uber anymore ? |
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| 17:29.41 | Luke-Jr | bencoh: m.uber.com works by manual approval |
| 17:30.32 | kerio | Luke-Jr: fennec 17 is pretty recent |
| 17:30.53 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: manual approval, as in "user approved from the app" ? |
| 17:31.08 | Luke-Jr | bencoh: as in you need to send a support request asking them to enable it |
| 17:31.17 | bencoh | oh |
| 17:32.12 | bencoh | well, that's still better than not being able to use it at all ... thx for the tip :) |
| 17:33.00 | bencoh | m.uber.com doesnt seem to load in qmlbrowser |
| 17:33.08 | Luke-Jr | :/ |
| 17:34.38 | Luke-Jr | can't figure out how to get extras-devel to work |
| 17:34.51 | Luke-Jr | /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list has: deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free |
| 17:34.57 | Luke-Jr | but aptitude update doesn't mention it |
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| 17:35.08 | bencoh | that's extras, not extras-devel |
| 17:35.39 | bencoh | create a new .list next to it with -devel ... but set apt-pinning before updating/upgrading |
| 17:35.47 | Luke-Jr | I guess if QMLBrowser doesn't work I don't need it anyway |
| 17:38.02 | bencoh | https://developer.uber.com/ |
| 17:38.11 | bencoh | looks like we might be able to do something :) |
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| 17:42.47 | Luke-Jr | OS: 2.6.28.10-power50/armv7l - CPU: 0 x ( MHz) - Processes: 154 - Uptime: 12:43:14 up 16 days, 14:36, load average: 0.68, 0.45, 0.28 - Memory Usage: 299MB/229MB (130%) |
| 17:42.48 | Luke-Jr | hum |
| 17:45.03 | Luke-Jr | is there a SUPL server that works with N900 these days? |
| 17:45.27 | bencoh | google's supl, or your mobile service provider |
| 17:46.01 | Luke-Jr | any way to confirm when I have one that works? |
| 17:47.45 | bencoh | if your time to first fix is lower than 12mn it prolly means it works |
| 17:47.58 | bencoh | (first cold fix) |
| 17:49.34 | Luke-Jr | supl.google.com:3425 ? |
| 17:50.19 | bencoh | default port (none specified here) |
| 17:51.26 | Sicelo | supl.google stopped working on N900 ages ago |
| 17:51.37 | Sicelo | use supl.nokia.com ... |
| 17:51.57 | Sicelo | you will need the certificate fix as well, which will already be installed if you're on CSSU |
| 17:52.06 | bencoh | Sicelo: hm, it works here (?!) |
| 17:53.11 | Sicelo | wow. you sure? it could simply be that you have working SIM card on the N900, which makes a biiig difference in getting unassisted GPS lock on N900 |
| 17:53.37 | Luke-Jr | is there a safe/clean way to update to CSSU? |
| 17:53.45 | bencoh | Sicelo: working card what ? |
| 17:54.13 | Sicelo | yes bencoh. Docscrutinizer has a name for that .. RRLP or some such. |
| 17:54.14 | bencoh | Sicelo: and I double-checked recently by disabling it afterwards |
| 17:54.27 | Sicelo | interesting. |
| 17:55.09 | bencoh | (actually it was a discussion with Doc on #neo900 ;) |
| 17:55.24 | Luke-Jr | I'm not seeing any attempts to talk to supl.google.com at all |
| 17:55.31 | Luke-Jr | oh, there it goes |
| 17:55.36 | Luke-Jr | but no response to SYN :p |
| 17:56.00 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: I dunno about the safe part, but there is a working step-by-step in wiki |
| 17:56.27 | Sicelo | it's very safe. just updated my 2nd N900 to CSSU-T yesterday |
| 17:58.53 | Luke-Jr | is it safe even if I have a boot menu with Gentoo? <.< |
| 17:59.12 | Sicelo | sure. it doesn't touch that :) |
| 17:59.47 | Sicelo | btw, you should make an image of your gentoo and share |
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| 18:00.26 | Luke-Jr | Sicelo: http://wiki.maemo.org/Gentoo/N900 has existed for quite some time |
| 18:02.27 | Sicelo | thanks. never seen it before. i just knew about your gps.c |
| 18:03.21 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: "Note the other end will probably get silence, and you won't hear them either. I'm working on an ALSA plugin to fix this" is that still true ? :) |
| 18:04.16 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 18:04.30 | Luke-Jr | hm, I changed SUPL to supl.nokia.com and it is still trying google |
| 18:04.36 | bencoh | meaning it does work, or you're not working on it anymore ? :) |
| 18:04.44 | Luke-Jr | bencoh: not the latter at least |
| 18:04.52 | bencoh | okay |
| 18:12.10 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: http://rix.si/blog/2015/01/01/2014-how-did-i-do/ |
| 18:12.19 | bencoh | "That's really all I use a phone for besides ordering an Uber, which I can user m.uber.com for." |
| 18:12.26 | bencoh | I guess you should ask him :) |
| 18:13.18 | Luke-Jr | Fennec seems to work, though not with GPS yet(?) |
| 18:13.48 | bencoh | dunno, the maemo location extension might use a custom api |
| 18:14.25 | Luke-Jr | nah, I just can't get a GPS fix :p |
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| 18:25.12 | Luke-Jr | CSSU instructions did not work |
| 18:25.22 | Luke-Jr | "5. Hildon Application Manager (HAM) will launch and begin processing (be patient as nothing seems to happen for some minutes). There are a series of installations for which it will prompt you with messages and warnings. Click "Accept" and "Done" for each to install." |
| 18:25.43 | Luke-Jr | I only got the initial prompt to add the repo, then a longish wait, and nothing |
| 18:25.52 | Luke-Jr | there is no Community SSU icon in the app menu |
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| 18:35.43 | Vajb | i kinda feel that u didn't wait long enough |
| 18:36.02 | Vajb | it is literally several minutes |
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| 18:38.45 | Luke-Jr | at the default HAM screen? |
| 18:39.26 | Luke-Jr | ie, no indication of anything going on |
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| 19:06.34 | freemangordon | Luke-Jr: yeah, stock HAM is veeeery slow |
| 19:06.54 | freemangordon | you need about 7-10 minutes, depending on the repos you have enabled |
| 19:07.09 | freemangordon | also, Nokia supl sever works |
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| 19:07.16 | freemangordon | (with CSSU that is) |
| 19:09.21 | freemangordon | Pali: still no reply from FatPhil :( |
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| 19:11.51 | Luke-Jr | how do I know when/if I get CSSU on there successfully? |
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| 19:15.11 | freemangordon | you should have "About CSSU" in settings :) |
| 19:15.39 | freemangordon | do you have mp-fremantle-pr uninstalled by chance? |
| 19:15.45 | freemangordon | Luke-Jr: ^^^ |
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| 19:16.33 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 19:16.37 | Luke-Jr | just /var/lib/dpkg/info/mp-fremantle-community-pr. |
| 19:17.13 | freemangordon | what "dpkg -l | grep mp-fremantle" says? |
| 19:17.49 | Luke-Jr | ii mp-fremantle-community-pr 21.2011.38-1Smaemo7 Community SSU package, includes latest fixes from Gitorious an |
| 19:18.27 | freemangordon | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo7_.2803.09.2014.29 |
| 19:18.32 | freemangordon | seems you have it |
| 19:18.37 | Luke-Jr | great |
| 19:18.49 | Luke-Jr | any idea what power kernel has the Thumb2 workaround? |
| 19:18.58 | freemangordon | !cssu-thumb |
| 19:19.04 | freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb |
| 19:19.04 | infobot | from memory, cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
| 19:19.27 | freemangordon | "...If you have kernel-power v51r1 or above..." |
| 19:19.42 | Luke-Jr | oh well, seems stable is only 50 |
| 19:19.53 | freemangordon | hmm, no, KP53 is in extras |
| 19:20.00 | freemangordon | and it is stable |
| 19:20.32 | freemangordon | at least I am not aware of issues |
| 19:21.21 | freemangordon | Luke-Jr: does Nokia supl server work now? |
| 19:21.27 | freemangordon | (it should) |
| 19:21.37 | Luke-Jr | I have no way to reliably determine that afaik |
| 19:22.09 | freemangordon | oh, you have, look in the syslog |
| 19:22.49 | freemangordon | put location widget on your desktop |
| 19:23.07 | Luke-Jr | there's a syslog? :p |
| 19:23.11 | freemangordon | then check the messages in the syslog |
| 19:23.25 | freemangordon | if you have it installed :P |
| 19:23.25 | kerio | sure, in busybox-power :> |
| 19:23.35 | freemangordon | kerio: what? |
| 19:23.51 | kerio | you heard me |
| 19:23.57 | freemangordon | I don't have bb-power, yet I have syslogd (and klogd) installed |
| 19:24.09 | kerio | sure, there's also *the* syslog available as a package |
| 19:24.19 | freemangordon | and (how weird) I have /var/log/syslog ;) |
| 19:24.20 | kerio | but busybox-power is probably more popular |
| 19:24.24 | Luke-Jr | do any of these have a RAM-only syslog? :p |
| 19:25.06 | freemangordon | Luke-Jr: ok, scratch that syslog thingie - if you can gat a lock in 10-15 seconds, then *most probably* the supl server works |
| 19:25.13 | freemangordon | *get |
| 19:25.17 | Luke-Jr | I doubt I can |
| 19:25.35 | freemangordon | took 5 seconds here, indoors |
| 19:28.18 | Luke-Jr | bah, CSSU broke my Gentoo chroot |
| 19:28.31 | Luke-Jr | nm, reboot fixed it |
| 19:28.36 | Sicelo | :) |
| 19:29.06 | Luke-Jr | nothing in syslog, but it did get a fix in ~60 sec |
| 19:29.22 | freemangordon | hmm, that's slow |
| 19:29.27 | freemangordon | should be way faster |
| 19:29.32 | Luke-Jr | heh, it's fast for me |
| 19:29.38 | Luke-Jr | usually I get to my destination before I get a fix |
| 19:29.49 | freemangordon | :) |
| 19:29.58 | freemangordon | nothing in syslog? |
| 19:30.07 | Luke-Jr | not about GPS |
| 19:30.12 | Luke-Jr | lots of glib warning bs |
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| 19:30.31 | Luke-Jr | Feb 2 14:30:46 sanji user.debug location-daemon[2082]: GLIB DEBUG default - GPS STATE: search |
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| 19:30.54 | freemangordon | yep, location-daemon it is |
| 19:31.04 | Luke-Jr | weird |
| 19:31.07 | Luke-Jr | maybe it didn't get a fix |
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| 19:31.13 | freemangordon | "GLIB DEBUG default - location-sb: fix status changed: 1->2" |
| 19:31.26 | Luke-Jr | its icon went solid, but AGTL says no fix |
| 19:31.38 | freemangordon | if the icon is solid, then you have a fix |
| 19:33.51 | freemangordon | Luke-Jr: BTW, if you want geolocation working as well, you need to either install CSSU-t/thumb or manually install nokiamaps-navigation-provider 0.200-2+0m5 |
| 19:34.47 | freemangordon | hmm, I meant geotagging (in camera, etc) |
| 19:34.48 | Luke-Jr | eh, it's always worked for me, so I must have the latter |
| 19:34.52 | Luke-Jr | oh |
| 19:38.09 | Luke-Jr | OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.28.10-power53/armv7l - CPU: 0 x ( MHz) - Processes: 154 - Uptime: 14:38:32 up 16 min, 0 users, load average: 2.14, 2.64, 1.73 - Memory Usage: 366MB/229MB (159%) |
| 19:38.16 | Luke-Jr | wonders how risky Thumb2/testing would be |
| 19:38.51 | freemangordon | well, I guess i am not the one to answer :) |
| 19:40.01 | freemangordon | but it should be safe and stable for everyday use. |
| 20:06.15 | Luke-Jr | Get:41 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free modest-l10n-frca 6.11+0cssu4 [11.1kB] |
| 20:06.21 | Luke-Jr | can I tell Maemo I don't need non-English? <.< |
| 20:21.27 | Luke-Jr | OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.28.10-power53/armv7l - CPU: 0 x ( MHz) - Processes: 132 - Uptime: 15:21:40 up 1 min, 0 users, load average: 4.04, 1.82, 0.67 - Memory Usage: 110MB/229MB (47%) |
| 20:21.30 | Luke-Jr | much better |
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| 20:39.19 | Sicelo | what command produces that output Luke-Jr? |
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| 20:58.49 | bencoh | hmm, is it just me, or fennec is freaking slow ? |
| 21:04.18 | nox- | last i knew fennec was "eating ram like candy" |
| 21:04.41 | nox- | so maybe you're swapping |
| 21:05.31 | bencoh | yeah, I am (heavily) |
| 21:05.41 | bencoh | and it does eat it |
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| 22:34.45 | Luke-Jr | Sicelo: shell script I wrote |
| 22:34.54 | Luke-Jr | http://codepad.org/rY0qaC2I |
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| 22:39.03 | Luke-Jr | $ fennec |
| 22:39.05 | Luke-Jr | XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /opt/fennec-17.0a1/libxpcom.so: |
| 22:39.06 | Luke-Jr | libQtFeedback.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:40.12 | kerio | you need cssu-thumb installed |
| 22:40.27 | Luke-Jr | it is |
| 22:46.58 | bencoh | ? |
| 22:54.56 | Luke-Jr | cssu-thumb is installed |
| 22:58.16 | Luke-Jr | installing libqtm-12-feedback fixed it, guess it's missing a dependency on it |
| 23:04.24 | Luke-Jr | Fennec seems too slow to be usable |
| 23:13.29 | bencoh | yeah |
| 23:14.01 | bencoh | Luke-Jr: does m.uber work properly for you with it ? |
| 23:16.35 | Luke-Jr | bencoh: until I get to the point where I need to position the location because GPS accuracy sucks |
| 23:17.26 | Luke-Jr | not to mention my battery dying within 15 minutes with GPS enabled, apparently :| |
| 23:33.59 | bencoh | woot ? |
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