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| 08:00.28 | Sicelo | how much would you be willing to buy an N900 with broken USB & no battery, but otherwise good condition? |
| 08:00.52 | Sicelo | i have opportunity to buy such N900, and would aprreciate some pointers |
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| 08:11.07 | Maxdamantus | if you do buy it, one of the first things you should do is install u-boot, if it's not already there. |
| 08:11.42 | Maxdamantus | So you can load kernels and arguments from an SD card. |
| 08:13.42 | Maxdamantus | ' u-boot is modified to use Dvorak, so he'd replace it anyway. |
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| 08:30.56 | muppeth | Sicelo: since you can buy working n900 in good condition for a bit over 50euro, i guess 30-40e would be a price i would consider |
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| 08:34.08 | kerio | Sicelo: buy it to fix the usb i guess |
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| 08:41.56 | Sicelo | of course, :) |
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| 08:46.04 | Sicelo | the guy wants 20 euro, so i suppose we're good |
| 08:47.02 | Sicelo | because we're some distance apart, he agreed for me to take it before paying, and pay once i'm satisfied |
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| 12:57.44 | Maxdamantus | $ find /mnt/sd/music/ -name \*.mp3 | while read x; do ffmpeg -i "$x" -acodec flac -f flac -y /dev/null </dev/null; done |
| 12:57.54 | Maxdamantus | Useful command. |
| 12:58.55 | Maxdamantus | wonders how quickly he can run the battery down. |
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| 13:03.56 | bencoh | but .... why ? |
| 13:04.24 | inz | because it can be done! |
| 13:04.58 | bencoh | sure but why convert a mp3 to flac ? |
| 13:05.28 | inz | no point whatsoever |
| 13:05.35 | bencoh | :) |
| 13:05.48 | Maxdamantus | Don't worry. I'm writing it to /dev/null. |
| 13:05.58 | bencoh | =] |
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| 13:38.14 | Maxdamantus | So with the bq27k thing, is it expected that people only use one battery? |
| 13:39.15 | Maxdamantus | Do other mobile devices tend to have a similar mechanism for measuring battery capacity? |
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| 13:39.55 | Maxdamantus | I suspect with laptops something like that chip will be inside the removable "battery" component. |
| 13:40.19 | jake42 | others have the counter in the battery, e.g. in the openmoko ones |
| 13:40.21 | jake42 | yes |
| 13:40.49 | Maxdamantus | So do those batteries have more than three contacts? |
| 13:41.05 | jake42 | no |
| 13:48.16 | Maxdamantus | Mm, some TI report says having the chip in the host is practical if you use batteries with the same capacity. |
| 13:49.35 | Vajb | some guy is selling dead n900. Says that light lits when charger is connected, but otherwise it's dead. Is it worth buying? |
| 13:50.26 | bencoh | could be a disconnected screen (?) |
| 13:50.42 | Vajb | hmm |
| 13:50.49 | Maxdamantus | Probably not. |
| 13:50.51 | Vajb | i thought like badly damaged os |
| 13:50.59 | bencoh | hm, light would go white at boot, nevermind |
| 13:51.04 | Maxdamantus | ^ |
| 13:51.05 | Vajb | and bring it up by reflash.... |
| 13:51.07 | Maxdamantus | also, vibration. |
| 13:51.14 | Maxdamantus | unless that's malfunctioning. |
| 13:52.10 | Vajb | i guess it just lits that yellow light which u have pulsing when loading |
| 13:52.28 | Maxdamantus | The pulsating is done by the LED controller. |
| 13:52.28 | Vajb | didn't say anything about vibration |
| 13:52.35 | bencoh | quite a lot of sellers this days |
| 13:52.44 | Maxdamantus | What he's describing is probably the charger itself. |
| 13:52.55 | Maxdamantus | where it's just a solid orange. |
| 13:52.59 | bencoh | Vajb: at least the usb port is not broken :D |
| 13:53.02 | Maxdamantus | or "yellow" |
| 13:53.03 | Vajb | thinks that one can never have too much spare devices |
| 13:53.37 | Vajb | hah yeah! |
| 13:53.54 | Vajb | Maxdamantus: yes i think that's the case |
| 13:54.09 | Vajb | was thinking of possiblity of cold flash |
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| 13:55.57 | Maxdamantus | What does it mean when the battery voltage goes up? |
| 13:56.25 | bencoh | depends from how much to how much I'd say :) |
| 13:56.30 | Maxdamantus | maybe it's just difficult to determine. |
| 13:56.52 | Maxdamantus | 3628 mV to 3646 mV |
| 13:57.17 | Maxdamantus | in ten minutes. |
| 13:58.44 | bencoh | charging ? |
| 13:59.07 | Vajb | can't it be just less load on cpu? |
| 13:59.18 | Maxdamantus | not charging. |
| 13:59.46 | bencoh | could be ... or an artefact |
| 13:59.46 | totalizator | bencoh: I have successfully patched feh for wmhints |
| 13:59.53 | bencoh | totalizator: yay, congratz :) |
| 14:00.07 | bencoh | sorry I didnt dwelve into it :) |
| 14:00.36 | totalizator | sure, still it's thanks to you - I had no clue what caused it :3 |
| 14:00.46 | Vajb | i asked the seller if that phone vibrates and offered one euro if it doesn't :D |
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| 16:30.28 | Maxdamantus | So where does bme-replacement get the maximum mAh from? |
| 16:30.52 | Maxdamantus | # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full |
| 16:30.53 | Maxdamantus | 1486191 |
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| 16:31.05 | Maxdamantus | but the status menu says 1288 |
| 16:32.04 | Maxdamantus | presumably that charge_full is wrong somehow. |
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| 16:56.25 | Vajb | Maxdamantus: i read somewhere that it got it from some resistor on third battery connector |
| 16:57.08 | Vajb | there was some gconf command to make it use value from bq27200 |
| 16:58.23 | Vajb | try searching for "bme replacement not showing correct battery capacity" or something similiar |
| 16:58.58 | Vajb | tho i didn't try it. I just live with the wrong value... |
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| 18:03.27 | Vajb | great. Newest update seems to have broken my yappari. |
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| 18:24.49 | Vajb | ok just read through yappari post in tmo.... |
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| 20:16.52 | wizbit | is yappari now dead? |
| 20:25.21 | wizbit | i think its just a 24 ban for alternative whatsapp clients? |
| 20:30.50 | Sicelo | or rather cut out support for old protocol. time will tell really |
| 20:31.30 | Sicelo | anyway, so that N900 i was expecting has arrived, and really looks good. USB tracks are all good, so repair should be easy |
| 20:31.39 | Sicelo | :) |
| 20:33.31 | Sicelo | everything else works |
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| 20:59.33 | Sicelo | Maxdamantus: that node doesn't exist on my N900 (cssu thumb) |
| 21:00.04 | Sicelo | my vanilla N900 is off, would check.. |
| 21:06.37 | Maxdamantus | Sicelo: you need to load the module for it. |
| 21:06.45 | Sicelo | ah |
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| 21:35.51 | Maxdamantus | Hm. Dunno. I think the bq27k chip is confused, and something normally fixes the numbers before it gets to the battery status thing, but not when it has to get the numbers from the kernel module. |
| 21:36.30 | Maxdamantus | I noticed one of Estel's posts mentioned some sort of calibration of the chip, could be that. |
| 21:38.32 | Maxdamantus | the bq27200.sh script and the kernel module both indicate the last full discharge was 1486 mAh (1486191 µAh, from the kernel module) |
| 21:38.58 | Maxdamantus | but it's a standard BL-5J, which is meant to be 1320. |
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| 22:35.47 | antranigv | anyone knows where I can buy a new N900? :) |
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