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| 03:03.26 | newbieAlert | how to compile library in scratchbox ?? how do i nknow the entries for debian/control ???? |
| 03:09.16 | totalizator | newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO |
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| 03:31.03 | newbieAlert | totalizator: thanks :) but it does not have anything about how to write debian/control for libraries. |
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| 04:20.46 | drathir | !crosscompile |
| 04:21.26 | drathir | !flasher |
| 04:21.26 | Oksana | newbieAlert: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html |
| 04:22.56 | drathir | `ping |
| 04:26.48 | Oksana | ~flasher |
| 04:26.49 | infobot | i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 04:27.00 | Oksana | ~crosscompile |
| 04:27.27 | Oksana | ~cross-compile |
| 04:27.29 | Oksana | ~compile |
| 04:27.29 | infobot | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package |
| 04:27.46 | Oksana | ~ping |
| 04:27.47 | infobot | ~pong |
| 04:37.28 | drathir | Oksana: thanks forgot which one symbol used almost alll chans have diff ones;/ |
| 04:38.17 | Oksana | Yes. /msg seems to work without the symbol, though. But, can /msg be used to ask bot to tell you what symbol does it use? |
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| 05:24.58 | T_X | anyone knowing why I might not be able to boot the 3.18-rc6 kernel from here? git://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900.git |
| 05:25.22 | T_X | I'm using and selecting it via u-boot and the kernel seems to boot initially |
| 05:26.20 | T_X | but the n900 hangs and reboots after a line "random: sshd urandom read with [...]", then gets random, colourful gibberish on the screen and then gets black |
| 05:26.28 | T_X | then reboots a few seconds later |
| 05:28.45 | Oksana | Not a clue. http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/kernel-build-reports/2014-July/004586.html |
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| 09:02.58 | bencoh | T_X: are you trying to boot maemo with this kernel ? |
| 09:15.49 | Maxdamantus | is about to try that kernel. |
| 09:16.14 | Maxdamantus | btw, the SD card works with the cover off, in case anyone's unaware. |
| 09:16.29 | Maxdamantus | (just need to stop the kernel from blocking access) |
| 09:17.41 | Maxdamantus | Hmm .. what's the actual point of blocking it? |
| 09:19.17 | Maxdamantus | I don't think the block actually does anything special with the hardware. |
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| 09:19.46 | Maxdamantus | so I don't think it would avoid cycling the SD card's power. |
| 09:20.05 | bencoh | Maxdamantus: prevent writes while it is being physically removed |
| 09:20.06 | Maxdamantus | I'd hope if that were an issue there'd be a cooldown or something somewhere. |
| 09:20.33 | bencoh | but it being in kernel is a bit silly (without a sysfs option) |
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| 09:20.59 | Maxdamantus | Hm. Assuming the writeback cache is small. |
| 09:21.46 | Maxdamantus | so it actually does continue to write from the cache after you remove the cover? |
| 09:21.55 | Maxdamantus | or do you mean within the SD card itself? |
| 09:22.18 | Maxdamantus | suspects that shouldn't be a problem with the SD card itself. |
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| 11:43.49 | Maxdamantus | Hm. How do you turn the backlight on if it's not on at boot (without maemo)? |
| 11:44.31 | inz | I'd guess there's a proc or sysfs entry for that |
| 11:44.59 | inz | Try find /proc /sys -name '*backlight*' |
| 11:45.40 | Maxdamantus | Mm, it doesn't seem to turn on the way you toggle it when it's working. |
| 11:45.55 | Maxdamantus | Do other people get that btw? |
| 11:46.16 | Maxdamantus | it doesn't seem to turn on when using flasher to book a kernel. |
| 11:46.24 | Maxdamantus | boot* |
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| 12:46.07 | T_X | bencoh: yep, trying to boot that kernel |
| 12:46.20 | T_X | trying to boot maemo with CSSU, right |
| 12:46.39 | T_X | Oksana: right, these are the last few lines I'm seeeing on the screen |
| 12:49.20 | T_X | going to add a few more modules as built-in into the zImage. I have /lib/modules/3.18-rc-6 on /opt because the root partition doesn't have enough space |
| 12:53.37 | bencoh | I guess you could lsmod on maemo on copy those in your root |
| 12:53.42 | bencoh | s/on/and/ |
| 12:53.52 | bencoh | infobot: bleh |
| 12:53.52 | infobot | bleh means insert appropriate value here. see blah |
| 13:01.47 | T_X | bencoh: you mean only making the modules kernel-built-in which are actually loaded after a normal maemo boot? |
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| 13:02.26 | bencoh | copying them, actually |
| 13:02.35 | newbieAlert | Hi.. how do i get "make" command on n900?? build-essential is not present. :/ |
| 13:02.45 | bencoh | but you could also build those in as well |
| 13:03.19 | T_X | bencoh: copying the modules from the old 2.6.28 kernel won't work. I have a modules directory with the linux-n900 repo |
| 13:03.24 | T_X | but unfortunately it's too big |
| 13:03.27 | T_X | ~160MB |
| 13:03.49 | T_X | while /lib/modules, the ubifs only has ~70MB available |
| 13:04.01 | bencoh | T_X: copying modules from the new kernel, but only those loaded by maemo |
| 13:04.10 | T_X | ah, okay! |
| 13:04.27 | T_X | could work, going to check |
| 13:04.33 | T_X | thx! |
| 13:05.55 | newbieAlert | Or is it possible to enable SDK repo on n900 and get "make" from there ?? |
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| 14:03.29 | totalizator | newbieAlert: why would you do that? |
| 14:05.09 | totalizator | download Lubuntu 14.04 iso and install it in Virtualbox: ~10 min, install M5 SDK ~10 min |
| 14:21.27 | totalizator | what do you want to build? |
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| 14:32.47 | user_ | does xplanet requires additional data? |
| 14:33.17 | fbnccst | since it said couldnt find moon etc |
| 14:35.19 | bencoh | newbieAlert: ask sec once he's around |
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| 14:43.00 | chem|st | newbieAlert: make should be in extras |
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| 15:24.14 | T_X | hm, making a lot of the modules built-in didn't help either |
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| 17:57.17 | newbieAlert | chem|st: make is not in extras (build-essential ) |
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| 17:58.00 | newbieAlert | bencoh: i have started a thread om TMO. no replies so far. |
| 17:58.31 | newbieAlert | totalizator: tmo thread for packaging has all the details.. |
| 18:00.28 | newbieAlert | totalizator: bencoh:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94466 |
| 18:13.17 | newbieAlert | sec : hi |
| 18:13.33 | newbieAlert | sec : helpp with packaging libraries ??? |
| 18:16.21 | bencoh | newbieAlert: I thought you wanted to build on the n900 |
| 18:22.00 | chem|st | newbieAlert: http://maemo.org/packages/view/make-3.81/ |
| 18:22.54 | chem|st | and you could also install that from the sdk-repo that is 3.80 |
| 18:24.35 | chem|st | newbieAlert: build-essential actually depends on make |
| 18:25.18 | newbieAlert | bencoh: i want to build it for n900. its working in scratchbox but i am not able to pack it in deb to transfer it to n900.. |
| 18:25.53 | newbieAlert | chem|st: thanks.. optified ?? |
| 18:26.04 | chem|st | no idea |
| 18:26.18 | newbieAlert | chem|st: trying... :) |
| 18:26.46 | bencoh | newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging |
| 18:27.31 | chem|st | newbieAlert: if you are looking for packages, they are all listed on maemo.org/packages |
| 18:27.34 | bencoh | depending on what you are trying to package you might need more or less work |
| 18:28.16 | newbieAlert | bencoh: i went through that.. i have issues with packaging libraries.. specifically writing debian/control. i am not able to figure out how to write the name of packages like : libX.a and a few other things symlinked to same library. |
| 18:28.19 | bencoh | (if it's already packaged for debian you'd only need to adapt the debian/rules) |
| 18:28.23 | chem|st | bencoh: if you are not used to .deb... I found in quiet hard to package stuff |
| 18:28.36 | bencoh | newbieAlert: oh, ok |
| 18:29.10 | newbieAlert | bencoh: single binary thing is easy , multibinary hing, i just figured out .. but libraries, still out of my scope.. |
| 18:29.11 | bencoh | debian has .install files to tell dpkg-buildpackage which files goes in which specific package |
| 18:30.04 | bencoh | you should apt-get source some-package to see how it's done |
| 18:30.30 | bencoh | (as an example) |
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| 18:32.35 | newbieAlert | bencoh: yeah.. thanks.. but thats not the issue.. issue is how will i know the output of the source package after compilation .. line i want to coompile X.tar.gz, then how ill i know what will i produce , like it may libX.a or libX.so or maybe 5 different libXYZ.. |
| 18:32.55 | newbieAlert | chem|st: naah, make install wont work on n900... requires autottols .. |
| 18:33.00 | newbieAlert | *autotools |
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| 18:34.57 | chem|st | newbieAlert: you wont be done by just installing "make"! |
| 18:34.57 | bencoh | newbieAlert: what do you mean by "how will I know" ? |
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| 18:35.46 | bencoh | you wont know unless you try, or read the build system (or a mix of the two) :) |
| 18:35.51 | newbieAlert | bencoh: i mean lets say , i need to compile GTK.. then "where" can i find, how many packages & what packages will it produce ?? |
| 18:36.28 | newbieAlert | bencoh: thats what i amtrying :) :) |
| 18:36.33 | bencoh | I'd DESTDIR=/foo/bar make install && tree -C /foo/bar first :) |
| 18:36.48 | newbieAlert | chem|st: nope. it didnot work.. requires automake, depends on autotools-dev. |
| 18:37.09 | bencoh | debian has some "default" packages that are described in dpkg/debutils and/or debian packaging docs |
| 18:37.29 | bencoh | (-dev, -dbg, maybe -shlibs, and a few others) |
| 18:37.54 | newbieAlert | bencoh: thats what i did :) then in libraries, the symlink thing. :/ produces two packages and two symlinks to same package with sdifferent name .. like 1. libX.so.0 & symlink libX.so.1 |
| 18:38.21 | newbieAlert | bencoh: thanks...going through sources now.. |
| 18:38.57 | bencoh | oh and, read man dpkg-deb (to check .deb afterwards) |
| 18:40.49 | newbieAlert | bencoh: okay :) :) thanks for help.. i think i will just write steps for multiple-binary in tmo... :) btw, will it work if i simply copy paste the libs folder to /sur in n900. (libs : produced by make install ) ?? |
| 18:45.44 | sec | someone called? |
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| 19:17.56 | newbieAlert | sec: yeah.. i did.. i was suggested to ask you my problems regarding packaging. |
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