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| 00:13.26 | RiD | four? Three I guess ;) |
| 00:13.30 | RiD | Red, Green and Blue |
| 00:13.58 | RiD | You can even change the LED patterns with a cool program. I used it to change the messages/IM/calls, different colors to each one, etc |
| 00:26.05 | Maxdamantus | But https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Software_BME says the bq24150a hardware uses a "hardwired steady yellow indicator LED" |
| 00:27.41 | Oksana | Maybe, they hard-wired connection from bq24150a to one-out-of-three yellow LED? So that the LED would work, even if the boot fails completely? |
| 00:28.16 | Oksana | Ah, you mean that the LEDs would then be Red, Green, and Yellow, not Blue? |
| 00:28.17 | Maxdamantus | it would be the red and green LEDs. |
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| 00:32.37 | bencoh | hmm ... is the "normal" case maemo is booted to charge, afaik |
| 00:33.10 | bencoh | (at least kernel is ... and prolly some userland as well ... I know next to nothing about the preinit stuff) |
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| 01:52.38 | Maxdamantus | bencoh: normal as in when the BME is allowing it to charge. |
| 01:53.43 | Maxdamantus | the article and the behaviour I see seem to indicate that it charges in a different mode with just the kernel module, no userland stuff. |
| 01:54.49 | Maxdamantus | (where, according to the article, the orange/yellow LED is hardwired to the charger hardware) |
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| 01:58.28 | Maxdamantus | it is definitely controlled using the lp5523 thing normally (pulsating, only happens when screen is off) |
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| 02:03.14 | Maxdamantus | I suspect that hardwiring thing has to do with the momentary, dim glow when plugging a power source in. |
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| 02:05.42 | Maxdamantus | Mk, http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/n900/n900-2014112500 seems to indicate that it's just using the same LEDs. |
| 02:06.00 | Maxdamantus | but does show that it has its own direct link to them. |
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| 02:13.48 | newbieAlert | Sicelo : gdata python can be installed as only dependency it has is python2.5 and python fuse requires fuse2.6 |
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| 06:20.36 | kerio | Maxdamantus: steady amber (red + green) is connected directly |
| 06:20.43 | kerio | but it's only for "emergency charging" |
| 06:20.50 | kerio | in all the other occasions, the kernel's running |
| 06:21.04 | kerio | and the leds are driven by lp5523 |
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| 06:21.44 | Maxdamantus | kerio: as the article says, if you stop bme the driver for the charger will still operate. |
| 06:22.04 | kerio | no, the chip will work |
| 06:22.06 | Maxdamantus | in which case the amber shows, without going through the LED driver. |
| 06:22.09 | kerio | but it won't ever fully charge the battery |
| 06:22.10 | kerio | yes |
| 06:22.17 | kerio | that's "emergency charging" |
| 06:22.25 | kerio | when bq24150 isn't given commands for a while |
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| 14:57.07 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 16:13.03 | drathir | bencoh: maybe remember which one problem was with flashing problem? |
| 16:13.24 | bencoh | ? |
| 16:14.05 | drathir | bencoh: some time before, im loosed buffer... |
| 16:14.37 | bencoh | are you talking about CapsulisCharlie ? |
| 16:14.48 | drathir | bencoh: correct |
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| 16:50.46 | CapsulisCharlie | why , when i use ./flasher-3.5 , i saw "flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009)" ? |
| 16:51.10 | CapsulisCharlie | it's maybe for this i can't flash my n900 :( |
| 16:51.35 | CapsulisCharlie | it's normaly ? or not ? |
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| 17:04.02 | kerio | it's normal |
| 17:04.07 | kerio | nokia's versioning is... weird |
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| 17:12.38 | bencoh | weird isnt strong enough |
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| 17:16.43 | totalizator | uhm, where I can download Maemo Diablo VBox image? gone? |
| 17:28.45 | drathir | CapsulisCharlie: You blacklisted modules? |
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| 17:41.37 | sec | Ovi Maps doesn't work? Maps aren't downloading for me :/ |
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| 17:43.52 | sec | ~ovi maps |
| 17:44.02 | sec | ~maps |
| 17:44.02 | infobot | maps are at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html |
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| 18:12.29 | Sicelo | sec: yes, N900 cannot download them by itself. if you really must use them (like i do), use Ovi Suite (Windows) |
| 18:15.01 | Sicelo | otherwise there are many fine map applications. iirc modrana is currently considered the best. |
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| 18:21.44 | bencoh | (marble is quite good too) |
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| 18:25.36 | sec | I'll try both, thanks Sicelo bencoh |
| 18:28.05 | sec | Sicelo: this right? http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/mobile/support/product/n900/softwareupdate/ |
| 18:29.16 | Sicelo | the Nokia Suite link, yes |
| 18:29.51 | sec | Thanks |
| 18:30.27 | Sicelo | btw, Nokia Maps doesn't have voice guidance, although i assume you're aware of this. that said, on tmo there's a cool hack that adds this functionality |
| 18:31.28 | sec | Yes, I don't want voice guidance. |
| 18:31.53 | sec | I just want to try all of them and pick the best |
| 18:32.22 | sec | Whatever has the best most updated maps is my pick |
| 18:34.27 | bencoh | I think all the opensource map apps have an openstreetmap backend by default, so ... |
| 18:36.09 | sec | Ah alright, I was reading cloudgps has support for google maps |
| 18:36.16 | sec | Idk how long back that was |
| 18:41.49 | bencoh | most of them could prolly make use of gmap as well |
| 18:45.47 | raccoon_ | http://n-o-d-e.net/post/107977286006/how-to-create-a-handheld-linux-terminal |
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| 18:52.56 | totalizator | pricey gizmo |
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| 19:05.42 | totalizator | yay! 15 minutes and I have Maemo Diablo SDK up and running; archive.org ftw |
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| 19:28.31 | sec | ~flac |
| 19:28.31 | infobot | flac is probably the Free Lossless Audio Codec, gives 30-50% compression on PCM audio. See http://flac.sourceforge.net/ for details on the format, or apt-get install flac xmms-flac to try it out (if you have xmms, of course). |
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| 19:30.51 | RzR | chem|st, hi thx for approval , do each member have a number or you rely on maemo/garage id ? :) |
| 19:31.17 | RzR | CapsulisCharlie, charlie dont surf |
| 19:44.42 | chem|st | RzR: each has a number but as long as it is not needed for anything... I was also thinking about making use of the garage db as juice suggested as there is everything needed already but I am scared to ask for anything that requires a real hands-on, at least yet |
| 19:46.42 | chem|st | raccoon_: dedicated ctrl+alt+del button^^ |
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| 21:49.12 | Maxdamantus | Hm. Weird. After shutting down a 3.18 kernel I built (mainline) last night, the N900 doesn't seem to want to turn on normally. |
| 21:49.22 | Maxdamantus | as if the battery were flat. |
| 21:49.33 | Maxdamantus | so have to plug it in for a while or something. |
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| 21:51.55 | Maxdamantus | didn't have it with a 3.13 kernel I built with a similar configuration, though with a different version of binutils/gcc. |
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