| 01:07.59 | bencoh | freemangordon: I was playing with gstreamer/dspvdec (I'm using your "hd" gstdsp.so binary) and all of a sudden (been trying/playing different stuff for a few hours) I had a dsp MMU fault |
| 01:08.27 | bencoh | and eventually I wasnt able to play any video with dspvdec |
| 01:09.57 | bencoh | (I can play videos again after rebooting) |
| 01:10.04 | bencoh | any idea where the MMU fault came from ? |
| 01:42.49 | bencoh | that's basically all I could get from dmesg |
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| 09:08.11 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 13:10.10 | lantizia | Hey, the Maemo community works/worked with Nokia right - probably a specific division/department of Nokia... did that part of Nokia end up with MS or is it still Nokia? In other words should Maemo feel in the future it *needs* to raise a query to the original authors - does that mean contacting an MS-owned company now? |
| 13:10.50 | lantizia | I know MS bought the smartphone division - but I'm not sure if that included MeeGo / Maemo work - I'm guessing it included Symbian, although god knows why MS would want it |
| 13:12.46 | kerio | lantizia: we did need to raise a query to the original authors |
| 13:12.50 | kerio | when nokia wasn't even bought by MS yet |
| 13:12.55 | kerio | we got jack shit |
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| 13:17.37 | freemangordon | bencoh: I guess you don;t OC, correct? |
| 13:17.45 | bencoh | I dont |
| 13:17.54 | freemangordon | bencoh: do you have SmartReflex enabled? |
| 13:18.00 | bencoh | I do iirc |
| 13:18.10 | freemangordon | that could be the reason |
| 13:18.34 | freemangordon | you can workaround that(if SR is the reason) |
| 13:18.41 | freemangordon | BTW what kernel is that? |
| 13:18.44 | bencoh | kp52 |
| 13:18.48 | freemangordon | install KP53 |
| 13:18.51 | freemangordon | :) |
| 13:18.56 | freemangordon | ~kernel-power |
| 13:19.03 | freemangordon | ~ping |
| 13:19.03 | infobot | ~pong |
| 13:19.17 | freemangordon | hmm, WTF? |
| 13:19.18 | kerio | it's in extras-whatever |
| 13:19.19 | freemangordon | ~kp |
| 13:19.20 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 |
| 13:20.07 | bencoh | actually the stream is intentionally too "complex" for the n900 (h264 720x576, high profile afaik), but what's strange is I can play it if I dump it to a file (using filesrc ! ffdemux_mpegts ! dspvdec) |
| 13:20.21 | freemangordon | bencoh: "* Update patch overclock_smartreflex_900.diff to improve the stability on some rare devices" |
| 13:20.28 | bencoh | but I cant play it when streamed over http (souphttpsrc ! ffdemux_mpegts ! dspvdec) |
| 13:20.37 | freemangordon | do you have MMU fault everytime you try to play that? |
| 13:21.13 | freemangordon | as another possibility is you're hitting a bug in codec nodes |
| 13:21.16 | bencoh | (when I say I can "play" it with filesrc, I mean it will load it, play a few frames, and drop most of it because dsp is too slow ;) |
| 13:21.20 | bencoh | hmm maybe |
| 13:21.41 | freemangordon | bencoh: temporarily disable SR and try again |
| 13:21.43 | bencoh | yeah I got an mmu fault everytime I tried with http |
| 13:22.05 | lantizia | kerio, ok - a simpler question... the proprietary parts of maemo which we don't have - are they now assets of MS? |
| 13:22.07 | bencoh | hmmkay I'll have a try at it - but first, time to eat :) |
| 13:22.12 | freemangordon | to check whether it is SR or something els |
| 13:22.13 | bencoh | freemangordon: thx :) |
| 13:22.14 | freemangordon | e |
| 13:22.16 | freemangordon | NP |
| 13:22.39 | bencoh | btw, for those interested, I'm playing HLS on n900 ;) |
| 13:22.49 | freemangordon | ~hls |
| 13:22.55 | bencoh | http live streaming |
| 13:22.58 | bencoh | the apple thingy |
| 13:23.10 | freemangordon | hmm, isn;t that supported by default? |
| 13:23.21 | freemangordon | by media player? |
| 13:23.23 | lantizia | i thought he meant Half-Life: Source :P |
| 13:23.26 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 13:23.27 | lantizia | was about the be very impressed |
| 13:23.51 | freemangordon | which reminds me - someday I should try compiling freespace2 for n900 |
| 13:24.38 | bencoh | freemangordon: nope, not that I know of :) |
| 13:24.44 | bencoh | more on the topic after lunch |
| 13:24.47 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 13:36.51 | kerio | lantizia: abandonware, clearly :> |
| 13:37.14 | kerio | they're (c) Nokia |
| 13:37.18 | kerio | and nokia was bought by MS |
| 13:37.24 | kerio | so microsoft owns them |
| 13:37.37 | kerio | but the agreement with the maemo community is still valid i think |
| 13:37.44 | lantizia | well the source will exist somewhere... now presumably stored on a storage medium owned by MS |
| 13:37.53 | kerio | where you have the right to redistribute (c)Nokia stuff to n900 owners |
| 13:38.56 | kerio | oh, the source |
| 13:39.02 | kerio | i doubt they even know where it is |
| 13:39.04 | lantizia | are there any distributions (other than android, I'm on about GNU/Linux distributions) that exist for N900 which don't use any of the proprietary parts maemo sometimes uses? |
| 13:39.52 | lantizia | kerio, well nokia wasn't bought by MS - their smartphone division was |
| 13:40.03 | lantizia | nokia still exists today making android tablets apparently |
| 13:40.08 | kerio | amazing |
| 13:40.12 | kerio | i'm sure they'll have great success |
| 13:43.59 | lantizia | i suppose it all must be under MS (symbian, s40, s60, maemo, their version of meego, their Nokia android X range) as you'd have thought if MS was being picky they'd have left out anything android or linux to buy |
| 13:44.10 | lantizia | so essentially Nokia only has one device, the N1 |
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| 13:44.45 | lantizia | i wonder if they went with a tablet because their agreement with MS prevents them from making mobile devices for a while |
| 13:44.59 | lantizia | which I guess a tablet is - but not cellular I guess |
| 13:51.00 | lantizia | on closer look that tablet doesn't seem bad either - certainly not any old half baked effort |
| 13:57.47 | sixwheeledbeast | I agree I doubt any one knows where the source is. |
| 14:04.48 | lantizia | sixwheeledbeast, but you'd agree it'd now be MS that has forgotten (i.e. it's their source to loose) |
| 14:05.45 | sixwheeledbeast | depends on the contracts I would think |
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| 14:06.31 | lantizia | sixwheeledbeast, well you'd think if they'd bought the entirely of their mobile division it'd include it - if they wanted to exclude parts they could have excluded Nokia X (the android stuff) and let Nokia continue with it |
| 14:06.44 | lantizia | that is... unless the agreement prevents Nokia from making phones for a while |
| 14:07.49 | sixwheeledbeast | :shrug: the thing is who knows and how would that make a difference of getting it released. |
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| 15:29.48 | kerio | well i can reliably crash os x yosemite with backupmenu's "usb console" mode |
| 15:39.29 | jon_y | kernel crash? |
| 15:40.05 | kerio | jon_y: eyup |
| 15:40.29 | jon_y | wow, I thought osx was supposed to be perfect :) |
| 15:40.41 | kerio | com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCECMData |
| 15:43.01 | bencoh | ohwell, looks like they dont like usb drivers ... 10.7.x randomly freezes with prolific (usbserial) drivers :) |
| 15:45.30 | kerio | the FTDI driver from FTDI legiterally just panics if you cut power to the remote end before unplugging the cable |
| 15:45.55 | kerio | which is awful if you're tinkering with a sheevaplug |
| 15:50.48 | bencoh | kerio: bleh |
| 15:51.01 | bencoh | I think there is a 3rd-party opensource driver |
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| 15:51.20 | kerio | bencoh: in theory, os x has a driver |
| 15:51.35 | bencoh | hm that was for pl2303 (prolific), nevermind |
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| 23:25.06 | bencoh | HLS playback embryo : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1454216 |
| 23:26.25 | bencoh | (took ages to write, but at least we have something for the records :) |
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| 23:38.03 | freemangordon | bencoh: (didn't read the backscroll) anything new about DSP MMU fault? |
| 23:45.33 | bencoh | not yet, that's next on my (gstreamer-related) todolist :) |
| 23:46.40 | freemangordon | ok :) |
| 23:47.18 | bencoh | (I wanted to write this post before forgetting everything :) |
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