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| 04:28.43 | drathir | hi hi... |
| 04:35.03 | Oksana | hello hello... |
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| 04:52.16 | Oksana | libc6-dev has version-problems with dependencies on libc6. CSSU-Testing, latest update. |
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| 08:43.01 | rm_work | Vajb: yes, have considered, but use this for work on this same network and have a mandate to do it this way :P |
| 08:43.19 | rm_work | sorry for the inconvenience, you're welcome to /ignore if it bothers you (not sarcasm) |
| 08:44.47 | rm_work | you can also turn off nick-change notifications in your client, I believe |
| 08:45.21 | rm_work | on other networks, I do not use nick-away |
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| 09:36.53 | kerio | you're right, i can /ignore you quite easily |
| 09:44.27 | Pali | rm_work: this autoaway nick change is not allowed and you can be kicked from channel |
| 09:45.05 | rm_work | kerio: i was being serious, i don't want to annoy anyone but this is kind of a requirement for me <_< |
| 09:45.18 | rm_work | I have been in this channel for about 7 years now without complaints until today though t-t |
| 09:45.59 | rm_work | i won't take offense if people /ignore me |
| 09:46.30 | Pali | I remember that operator kicked some people when they have enabled some autoaway message/nick |
| 09:46.51 | rm_work | i guess if it happens, it happens :( |
| 09:47.24 | rm_work | don't think there is a way to fix it other than having two different networks set up on my bouncer maybe, one for JUST this channel... |
| 09:48.28 | rm_work | dunno, feels like it is not a big deal for people to handle it on their own if they don't like to see nick-changes T_T |
| 09:48.52 | rm_work | there is /ignore and it is easy to turn off nick-change announcements altogether in most clients |
| 09:49.30 | Sicelo | without knowing all the ins-and-outs here .. how about you connect when you're available? can use logs to find out what was said in your absence ... not sure |
| 09:49.40 | rm_work | I use a bouncer |
| 09:49.42 | rm_work | ZNC |
| 09:50.10 | rm_work | it is immensely troublesome to have it join/part from a specific channel all the time, and it is exactly the same number of messages for people here :P |
| 09:50.31 | rm_work | I just don't see it as a huge issue, nor do I remember this channel having such regulations |
| 09:50.55 | rm_work | i've been working on Maemo since ITOS2007 / 770 days, would be a shame to leave but i honestly just lurk anymore anyway |
| 09:52.30 | rm_work | I am totally with you that nick-away is dumb, but honestly such regulations seem a bit like an admin having a power trip... if I get banned from the channel for that, I guess this isn't somewhere i'd want to be anyway T_T |
| 09:53.09 | rm_work | i'll leave it up to fate :) |
| 09:53.24 | Sicelo | :) |
| 09:54.17 | rm_work | but it is fun to see that people are still working on and using Maemo stuff |
| 09:54.36 | rm_work | I still wear my Maemo lanyard every day at work with my badge on it |
| 09:54.50 | kerio | and that should give you the right to act like a douchebag on irc? |
| 09:55.02 | rm_work | kerio: I really don't know who is acting like that here :/ |
| 09:55.29 | Sicelo | wants that lanyard |
| 09:56.00 | rm_work | I am not name calling, and I have explained that I can't do what you are asking me to do, but have also explained two EASY ways to have it not affect you (/ignore or turning off nick-change announcements in your client) |
| 09:56.03 | rm_work | think what you want :( |
| 09:56.25 | rm_work | and I am not being sarcastic when I have said that I am sorry that it bothers you |
| 09:57.12 | rm_work | Sicelo: where are you located? I think I still have an extra or two somewhere |
| 09:57.36 | Sicelo | South Africa, unfortunately |
| 09:57.47 | rm_work | hmm, yeah, that might be hard |
| 09:57.55 | rm_work | though mail goes most everywhere these days :P |
| 09:58.53 | Sicelo | of course, haha |
| 10:05.50 | Sicelo | i know this is not news, but i'm finding gnuplot to be extra cool, especially having it on my N900 as well |
| 10:06.25 | rm_work | yeah, I just started playing with it a bit for data visualization for my benchmarking tools :P |
| 10:06.29 | bencoh | gnuplot on n900 ? what do you use it for ? |
| 10:06.53 | rm_work | heck of a lot easier to use than RRD graphs, that's for sure T_T |
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| 10:26.56 | Vajb | surprised to see my humble question brought up so much convedrsation :) |
| 10:27.14 | Vajb | -d* |
| 10:27.16 | rm_work | heh |
| 10:27.23 | rm_work | yeah, apparently some people feel strongly |
| 10:28.08 | Vajb | i wasn't annoyed or anything, but was just wondering if it's necessary |
| 10:28.16 | rm_work | unfortunately not everyone agrees on the correct method, so i'm stuck doing this :( |
| 10:28.40 | Vajb | and since this is quite silent channel my screen was filled by ur nick changes |
| 10:28.52 | rm_work | yeah, people i work with get confused (and frustrated) because they don't understand all the ins-and-outs of IRC <_< |
| 10:28.56 | rm_work | thus, nick-away |
| 10:29.30 | Vajb | heh everything always comes around work |
| 10:29.40 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: it is just on topic at the moment. Someone has been kicked recently for similar annoying messages. |
| 10:30.24 | rm_work | yeah, i mean, hopefully it's not too annoying... part/join is the same number of messages, which would have to be my other option, and that way I'd lose logs |
| 10:30.43 | rm_work | not to mention I'm not even sure how i'd get a single channel to part/join instead of nick-change on away <_< |
| 10:30.52 | rm_work | might have to write my own ZNC plugin |
| 10:30.58 | Vajb | maybe we just need some random zitchat to mask it :p |
| 10:31.02 | sixwheeledbeast | Admittedly more annoying every 5 minute messages but I feel that has bought it to light |
| 10:31.45 | rm_work | normally my nick-changes will be ~4 times per day -- when I come in to work, two for lunchtime, and one when I leave |
| 10:31.57 | Vajb | and btw i've ignored parts, joins and quits already |
| 10:31.59 | rm_work | it's probably more often now that i'm on xmas vacation though and brought my work machine home :P |
| 10:32.22 | rm_work | yeah, it is just as easy to ignore nick-change, at least on my client |
| 10:33.04 | Vajb | i guess |
| 10:33.07 | rm_work | i generally thing of it more as a preference thing, was surprised to see someone take it as far as a bannable offense for a channel |
| 10:33.11 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: that's fine my client does that dynamically too, but I don't think that's the point. |
| 10:33.15 | qt_junkie | yeah, this used to be a quite silent channel :P |
| 10:33.15 | rm_work | s/thing/think/ |
| 10:33.25 | Vajb | but having those ignored has down side |
| 10:33.45 | rm_work | well, I think we've spent more lines discussing it than my client generates in a week :P |
| 10:33.48 | Vajb | i don't have any idea of who comes or goes |
| 10:34.15 | Vajb | tho it doesn't matter that often, but sometimes it does |
| 10:35.14 | rm_work | anyway, i've said my bit, i'd rather not leave but i can't change the way my client works because of work requirements, so I'll have to see if anyone continues to care, since i enjoy being in this channel :) |
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| 10:35.48 | Vajb | rm_work: and to be honest i thought that u don't know about /away and wanted to point out a solution :) |
| 10:35.55 | rm_work | I generally like everyone here, though I think I got off on the wrong foot with some people today who didn't know me from before |
| 10:35.56 | sixwheeledbeast | correct me if I am wrong but doesn't ZNC mean you can have multiple clients without nick changes? |
| 10:36.08 | rm_work | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, it's when my computer goes to sleep it changes me to away |
| 10:36.22 | rm_work | has nothing to do with what machine I connect from |
| 10:36.31 | rm_work | or rather, if all clients disconnect |
| 10:36.46 | rm_work | I *believe* i am using /away in addition |
| 10:36.53 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: nobody wanted to see you leave. I think it was a question. |
| 10:36.56 | rm_work | though I'd have to check the config |
| 10:37.09 | rm_work | sixwheeledbeast: I was threated with being banned at least once <_< |
| 10:37.14 | rm_work | and called a d-bag :( |
| 10:37.45 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: I didn't see it as a threat at all. |
| 10:37.50 | rm_work | I really don't mean to inconvenience anyone |
| 10:37.59 | sixwheeledbeast | just that it had happened |
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| 10:38.28 | rm_work | possibly misinterpreted then |
| 10:38.41 | rm_work | though I am not sure how I could misinterpret the name-calling : |
| 10:38.42 | rm_work | :/ |
| 10:38.53 | rm_work | people are entitled to their opinions though :) |
| 10:39.04 | rm_work | who are the channel ops these days? |
| 10:39.21 | rm_work | not a whole lot of people I recognize are around anymore |
| 10:39.22 | Vajb | u can call me sergeant ;) |
| 10:39.37 | sixwheeledbeast | exactly, as I said it was on topic due to the recent kicking |
| 10:40.27 | sixwheeledbeast | re ops I have NFC |
| 10:41.07 | rm_work | heh, well cool |
| 10:41.45 | rm_work | I mean, I really hope it isn't that annoying -- was pretty surprised to hear someone was kicked for it at all -- unless they were doing it like every 2 minutes and not actually responding to pings? |
| 10:42.45 | rm_work | I have had this nick-away set up for at least a year and this is the first time anyone has even commented on it in any of the ... 20 or so channels i'm in right now |
| 10:43.29 | Vajb | well im been here just few weeks... |
| 10:43.38 | Vajb | i've* |
| 10:44.22 | sixwheeledbeast | I thought so, I remember someone mentioned it has been removed from the latest znc |
| 10:44.24 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.znc.in/Awaynick |
| 10:44.56 | rm_work | heh, i would have had to manually add it back T_T |
| 10:47.26 | rm_work | also, I think this is the single longest non-work-related conversation i've had on a single topic in a long time :P |
| 10:48.04 | Vajb | cool |
| 10:48.33 | Vajb | loosen that neck tie. Open up top button |
| 10:48.46 | rm_work | hah |
| 10:49.22 | rm_work | fortunately it has been a couple of years since I had to wear a tie to work... and my co-workers even use IRC, no less! (instead of blocking IRC ports via corporate firewall) |
| 10:49.55 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: your welcome :) |
| 10:50.26 | rm_work | so, you guys use n800? n900? |
| 10:50.31 | rm_work | n810? :P |
| 10:50.40 | Vajb | connecting from it ;) |
| 10:50.53 | Vajb | n900 that is |
| 10:50.56 | sixwheeledbeast | n900 |
| 10:50.59 | rm_work | cool |
| 10:51.11 | rm_work | i don't know if any of the stuff I wrote for n900 is still around :( |
| 10:51.21 | rm_work | my bigger contributions were n800-ish |
| 10:51.24 | rm_work | and n950 |
| 10:52.20 | Vajb | would guess they r |
| 10:52.38 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: what n900 stuff, I would imagine they are |
| 10:52.41 | Sicelo | you mean the malware you wrote for N900? it was found, and `rm -rf` |
| 10:52.45 | Sicelo | :D |
| 10:52.53 | rm_work | Sicelo: DAMN! you're on to me! |
| 10:53.00 | Sicelo | :p |
| 10:53.26 | Vajb | =) |
| 10:53.45 | rm_work | eh, all I really worked on for n900 was packaging related stuff |
| 10:53.53 | rm_work | which I think got tossed when CSSU came in |
| 10:54.05 | rm_work | and Packrat, which i doubt works anymore :( |
| 10:54.32 | rm_work | oh wow it totally still works O_o |
| 10:55.17 | rm_work | wonder if anyone still uses it... http://ageofikon.com/prh/ |
| 10:56.05 | rm_work | ah looks like it lost most of its repos |
| 10:56.39 | sixwheeledbeast | yes it seems so |
| 10:56.56 | rm_work | bet i could fix it up again, but i'm sure there's a better package indexer around by now |
| 10:56.59 | rm_work | at least, I hope so :P |
| 10:59.17 | Vajb | has no idea |
| 10:59.39 | rm_work | how do you guys search for packages these days? |
| 10:59.52 | rm_work | and how many private repos still exist? do the nokia repos still exist even?! |
| 11:00.34 | Vajb | i just use ham |
| 11:00.43 | bencoh | I use apt-cache search |
| 11:00.44 | rm_work | heh, i guess that works |
| 11:00.48 | bencoh | or maemo.org/packages |
| 11:01.03 | Vajb | or google if i need more details and info |
| 11:01.31 | bencoh | and ... yeah, the nokia repo are still working, at least for fremantle stuff |
| 11:01.41 | rm_work | yeah, there used to be a ton of tiny private repos that standard tools didn't index (and apt wouldn't know about unless you added them) |
| 11:01.45 | rm_work | so it was useful to have an indexer |
| 11:01.56 | Vajb | but not getting too frequent updates.... |
| 11:02.07 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: ~pkg |
| 11:02.09 | rm_work | people could post their repo on a wiki page and packrat would pick them up and index them |
| 11:02.10 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
| 11:02.10 | infobot | well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 11:02.23 | rm_work | yeah, it doesn't look like this indexes private repos? |
| 11:02.50 | bencoh | I still dunno how large extras are |
| 11:03.07 | sixwheeledbeast | nope, upload to extras instead of private repos |
| 11:03.19 | Vajb | is extras the rabbit hole? |
| 11:03.20 | rm_work | yeah, guess that opened up a bit more |
| 11:03.31 | rm_work | used to be more locked down, there were only a few with access to do so |
| 11:04.04 | sixwheeledbeast | you have to apply but devs push everything to extras-devel |
| 11:04.24 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: mBarcode is still about ;) |
| 11:04.30 | rm_work | heh |
| 11:04.32 | rm_work | yeah |
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| 11:04.55 | rm_work | I never ported advanced-backlight past diablo since the fremantle statusbar changed so much |
| 11:05.04 | rm_work | i had a development version that worked but no one cared |
| 11:05.16 | rm_work | lol, I even remember quim walking up and asking me "why do we need this, it works fine" :P |
| 11:05.44 | sixwheeledbeast | :) |
| 11:06.28 | rm_work | i did a ton of optimization testing with mplayer around video / a2dp too |
| 11:06.38 | rm_work | but I think they eventually fixed that stuff upstream |
| 11:06.39 | Vajb | so if u quit using maemo what is ur choise of device now rm_work? |
| 11:07.11 | rm_work | rooted android devices, as close to AOSP as possible <_< |
| 11:07.20 | rm_work | I wish using the n950 was still a viable choice |
| 11:07.42 | Vajb | i see |
| 11:07.46 | rm_work | my n900 battery started flaking out |
| 11:07.51 | rm_work | or possibly the mainboard |
| 11:07.56 | rm_work | it reboots a lot :( |
| 11:08.17 | sixwheeledbeast | quit maemo :0 |
| 11:08.40 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't touch android with a long stick |
| 11:08.43 | rm_work | n950 is great but has essentially no support since nokia dumped the whole department after Elop |
| 11:08.52 | Vajb | just what happens with my other device |
| 11:09.27 | Vajb | did n950 work as phone too? |
| 11:09.28 | rm_work | and since not many of them actually exist T_T |
| 11:09.31 | rm_work | yeah |
| 11:10.05 | Vajb | oh i read somewhere that it lacked phone modem :o |
| 11:10.22 | Vajb | or something |
| 11:10.29 | rm_work | nah, it worked fine |
| 11:12.15 | rm_work | unfortunately the phones are not viable anymore due to lack of 4G and no way to handle secure email as required by most corp exchange policies :( |
| 11:12.23 | Vajb | hmm i've absorbed false information then... |
| 11:12.52 | rm_work | I still use the n900 in my car for music though (FM transmitter, woo!), just have to put up with reboots randomly |
| 11:13.02 | rm_work | mostly it works as long as it's plugged in |
| 11:13.16 | Vajb | maybe fresh battery |
| 11:13.25 | rm_work | possibly |
| 11:13.34 | sixwheeledbeast | neo900 should have 4G, get a new battery polarcell's are good. |
| 11:13.38 | sixwheeledbeast | ~polarcell |
| 11:13.38 | infobot | well, polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement |
| 11:13.53 | rm_work | hmm |
| 11:13.59 | rm_work | looks like work has continued :P |
| 11:14.11 | sixwheeledbeast | obviously you may need a link for your region |
| 11:14.12 | rm_work | I remember getting a crazy custom-made battery shipped from somewhere in germany |
| 11:14.13 | Vajb | i have polarcell, but could use mugen |
| 11:14.16 | rm_work | for the n800 |
| 11:14.28 | rm_work | it was... kinda funky :P but this looks legit |
| 11:15.25 | rm_work | I followed neo900 for a while, didn't know they were still making progress... that's docscrutinizer's thing, isn't it? |
| 11:15.32 | Vajb | i read that someone made dual polarcell battery with mugen backcover |
| 11:15.33 | rm_work | or am i mis-remembering |
| 11:16.03 | Vajb | i think so too |
| 11:16.19 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: that is correct |
| 11:16.38 | rm_work | doesn't look like it's available yet :( |
| 11:16.45 | rm_work | when it is, I will definitely be interested |
| 11:17.45 | rm_work | ha "plus sturdy USB" |
| 11:17.45 | sixwheeledbeast | ~9 |
| 11:17.45 | infobot | well, neo900 is at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142, or at http://neo900.org/ |
| 11:17.53 | rm_work | that totally happened to my first n900 T_T |
| 11:18.02 | rm_work | pop, no more microusb port T_T |
| 11:18.33 | sixwheeledbeast | has amazingly not had huge uUSB issues. |
| 11:18.44 | Vajb | neither |
| 11:18.55 | Vajb | but i never danced with my phne |
| 11:19.18 | rm_work | I swear it was just from normal use (charging) |
| 11:19.24 | Vajb | +i mostly charge it while i sleep |
| 11:19.42 | rm_work | though I had one of the first production run, I heard they made them sturdier in later batches |
| 11:20.13 | Vajb | i thought that was just users who did that |
| 11:20.15 | rm_work | and it has not happened to my current one *crosses fingers* |
| 11:20.24 | rm_work | nah, it was an actual design issue |
| 11:20.49 | rm_work | the solder that held it on and the pins they used were not up to the amount of force used regularly just to plug in and remove the usb for charging nightly |
| 11:20.57 | rm_work | they beefed it up later |
| 11:21.27 | Vajb | i c |
| 11:21.48 | Vajb | tho i filed those lock pins from plug also |
| 11:21.57 | Vajb | but never opened my device |
| 11:22.15 | rm_work | yeah, the lock pins on the oem nokia cable were pretty intense :P |
| 11:22.20 | Vajb | tho been planning to open that rebooting one |
| 11:22.41 | Vajb | quite long indeed |
| 11:22.52 | rm_work | i had to open mine once to fix the display ribbon that came loose from being in a car crash and it flying out of my hands and hitting the dash O_o |
| 11:22.53 | sixwheeledbeast | It was a poor idea being surface mounted |
| 11:22.57 | Vajb | maybe inspired be wolverine =o |
| 11:23.05 | Vajb | be=by* |
| 11:23.16 | rm_work | (I was not driving, by the way) |
| 11:23.28 | Vajb | good save :) |
| 11:23.32 | rm_work | hopefully that was clear by the n900 being in my hands at the time :P |
| 11:23.39 | rm_work | but maybe not so clear these days <_< |
| 11:24.19 | Vajb | i agree |
| 11:24.56 | Vajb | seems to me that most truck drivers have phone on their ear |
| 11:25.09 | Vajb | or at least it seems so when they drive pass |
| 11:25.42 | rm_work | in many states (I am in the US) they are passing "distracted driving" laws now |
| 11:25.43 | sixwheeledbeast | we have truck camera vans over here to catch that. |
| 11:26.02 | rm_work | so it is illegal and a primary offense to be texting/talking while driving (though hands-free bluetooth or whatever is ok) |
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| 11:26.34 | Vajb | we have law already, but it's kinda hard to keep up |
| 11:27.28 | sixwheeledbeast | penalty points and fine |
| 11:29.22 | Vajb | i think here it's just fine |
| 11:29.27 | Vajb | never had one tho |
| 11:29.49 | Vajb | from that matter that is... |
| 11:29.55 | rm_work | heh |
| 11:30.30 | rm_work | yeah, my car has bluetooth built in, so I just use that, and "ok google" on android lets me dictate text messages... <_< |
| 11:30.39 | rm_work | making me feel bad for using android again <_< |
| 11:31.04 | Vajb | btw for me it's strange that in us they have lots of android phones with kbd and in europe none |
| 11:31.13 | rm_work | would probably be possible to write an app to do the same on maemo, though probably still using the google voice recognition API... |
| 11:31.29 | rm_work | Vajb: well, there are a few, but not many |
| 11:32.01 | Vajb | haven't seen any in fland, tho not been that actively looking |
| 11:32.06 | rm_work | mostly hardware keyboards (which I used to swear by, and almost rioted when the N9 didn't have one) have gone away in favor of Swype / voice recognition |
| 11:32.26 | rm_work | even N9 came with Swype and it actually worked ok |
| 11:32.37 | rm_work | still doesn't help when you need to do terminal work though T_T |
| 11:33.04 | Vajb | would sound a bit strange for by standers |
| 11:33.06 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: someone started a project like that. Not sure of it's status lately |
| 11:33.39 | rm_work | hmm |
| 11:34.07 | rm_work | i use the google voice API for my home automation work, and it tends to work nicely |
| 11:34.37 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah found it http://maemo.org/packages/view/saera/ |
| 11:34.59 | sixwheeledbeast | and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84753 |
| 11:35.08 | Vajb | is there an app for carrying wood in and lighting a stove? |
| 11:35.30 | rm_work | lol |
| 11:35.54 | rm_work | ah he went with sphinx |
| 11:36.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: woodchuck? :) |
| 11:37.11 | rm_work | i checked out sphinx but it was a PitA compared to just shipping the audio to google (though much less bandwidth :P) |
| 11:37.14 | bencoh | I wonder how Swype would perform as a term input after some training period :) |
| 11:37.15 | Vajb | ah missed that coz were looking for beaver |
| 11:37.27 | rm_work | also tended to be way less accurate in my tests :( |
| 11:37.39 | sixwheeledbeast | rm_work: yes development disappeared when python was getting heavy and a switch to C++ was to be done IIRC |
| 11:38.05 | sixwheeledbeast | also yes, bits had to be hard coded for accuracy |
| 11:38.41 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: does this thing actually work ? |
| 11:38.57 | Humpelstilzchen | pocketsphinx is pretty easy to use |
| 11:39.25 | sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: when I tested it yes, but it was still very "devel" |
| 11:39.49 | sixwheeledbeast | funniest bit was the chuck norris questions :) |
| 11:40.05 | bencoh | can it call contacts now ? |
| 11:42.25 | sixwheeledbeast | not that I remember. |
| 11:47.03 | Vajb | i always found it a bit odd to use voice commands |
| 11:47.41 | rm_work | I have pretty much only wanted to use voice commands for everything, since the first Iron Man movie :P |
| 11:47.50 | rm_work | Jarvis was too cool :) |
| 11:48.12 | Vajb | haha |
| 11:49.25 | bencoh | :] |
| 11:51.51 | sixwheeledbeast | mh, I have many buttons that will do |
| 11:55.57 | Vajb | i had forgotten that even michael knight spoke to kitt |
| 11:56.19 | Vajb | maybe, just maybe i should give a go for voice... |
| 11:56.40 | sixwheeledbeast | Kit could have a conversation back tho... |
| 11:56.56 | Vajb | true |
| 11:58.00 | Vajb | but there is a chance for it to be nagging b... |
| 11:58.10 | sixwheeledbeast | remembers making knight rider lights for his school electronics project many years ago... |
| 11:58.23 | Vajb | if it just obeys... |
| 11:58.26 | Vajb | lol |
| 11:58.47 | rm_work | "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave..." |
| 12:07.12 | bencoh | :)) |
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| 12:15.19 | Luke-Jr | Merry Xmas, Dave⦠|
| 12:20.13 | rm_work | whelp, bedtime. guess you get to see my nick change again momentarily <_< |
| 12:22.13 | bencoh | :] |
| 12:22.24 | rm_work | and yes, merry christmas to those who celebrate it :) |
| 12:30.21 | Vajb | omg he did it :p |
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| 12:49.42 | sixwheeledbeast | still not sure I understand the whole nick change/ZNC issue anyway. |
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| 12:56.39 | trumee | Where can i get a decent replacement battery in the US? |
| 12:58.41 | Vajb | ebay i guess |
| 12:58.42 | trumee | Cant find anything in stock of the ones listed at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 |
| 12:59.16 | Vajb | try ebay -> n900 polarcell |
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| 13:06.59 | trumee | Vajb: only one listed is shipped from germany! |
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| 13:18.11 | sixwheeledbeast | trumee: is that a problem? |
| 13:18.49 | bencoh | to the US, it could be :) |
| 13:19.57 | trumee | Shipping would be slow. I was hoping to get from a local source. |
| 13:23.28 | sixwheeledbeast | trumee: they where pretty quick shipping to the UK 3-4 days IIRC. I suppose it is the wrong time for shipping things about. |
| 13:27.04 | sixwheeledbeast | trumee: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261362294127 ? |
| 13:27.38 | bencoh | hmm, reminds me I should buy a few of those ... in january maybe |
| 13:28.34 | bencoh | (end of december prolly isnt the best time for efficient online shopping / delivery :) |
| 13:31.00 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: exactly |
| 13:32.06 | trumee | sixwheeledbeast: is that battery reliable? |
| 13:32.13 | sixwheeledbeast | Maybe some US folk could pool a shipment of polarcells. |
| 13:32.39 | sixwheeledbeast | trumee: no idea, it's advertised as "OEM" |
| 13:33.25 | sixwheeledbeast | What's it like shipping lithium batteries about over there at the moment? |
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| 13:40.08 | sixwheeledbeast | grr |
| 13:47.34 | Vajb | what about mugen batteries? |
| 13:47.40 | Vajb | trumee |
| 13:47.51 | Vajb | they r in us |
| 13:49.04 | trumee | Too expensive for me :( |
| 13:50.31 | Vajb | yes they r expensive |
| 13:50.41 | Vajb | :/ |
| 13:53.51 | bencoh | hmm, do you guys notice video tearing with cutetube ? |
| 13:55.20 | Vajb | sometimes i have some shattering, but i think that is because of video packing stuff |
| 13:56.03 | bencoh | shattering ? macroblocks ? |
| 13:56.27 | Vajb | more like lots of vertical lines |
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| 13:56.43 | Vajb | hmm no horizontal |
| 13:56.52 | Vajb | from left to right |
| 13:56.56 | bencoh | then we might be referring to the same thing |
| 13:57.08 | Vajb | like video is made on thin stripes |
| 13:57.21 | bencoh | slight horizontal lines appearing when in fast motion ? |
| 13:57.51 | Vajb | any movement on certain videos |
| 13:58.10 | Vajb | but some videos r fine |
| 13:58.43 | Vajb | but it doesn't matter since mostly i just listen music through itt |
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| 16:05.41 | Drevkevac | just got an n810 for xmas. Already found the extras and extras-testing repos. any other must have things? |
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| 18:02.37 | Drevkevac | hey, I'm trying to follow these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Compiling_on_the_N810 |
| 18:02.53 | Drevkevac | everything works fine until step 8, when my n810 complains that gcc does not exist |
| 18:03.12 | Drevkevac | after running "find / | grep gcc", I have determined that the gcc binary is not present on the system |
| 18:03.15 | Drevkevac | any ideas? |
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| 18:18.54 | Humpelstilzchen | 888 |
| 18:18.59 | Humpelstilzchen | sry |
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| 18:51.03 | fmunozs | dpkg -i doesnt complain during instalation Drevkevac ? |
| 18:51.52 | Drevkevac | fmunozs, it was not |
| 18:52.15 | Drevkevac | fmunozs, for the record, my end objective is to get tmux running... I cant find a working binary anywhere |
| 18:52.28 | Drevkevac | fmunozs, so I decided compiling from source would be nice |
| 18:52.37 | Drevkevac | fmunozs, would also be nice to have newer python and whatnot |
| 18:56.43 | fmunozs | Drevkevac, you probably will need more than just gcc to compile python, but getting gcc to work is a start, I remember there used to be a VM with the maemo SDK preinstalled, maybe that's an easier way? |
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| 19:11.07 | thomasjfox | the N900 SDK also contains the toolchain for the N810 |
| 19:14.09 | Drevkevac | the wiki did mention something about a cross compiler... maybe i could statically link those things |
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| 20:40.24 | hyppocrate | Merry christmas |
| 20:40.44 | hyppocrate | who can give me link for flashing my nokia n900 ? |
| 20:40.50 | hyppocrate | with last maemo version |
| 20:41.25 | hyppocrate | !flash |
| 20:42.09 | bencoh | ~flasher |
| 20:42.09 | infobot | it has been said that flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 20:42.15 | bencoh | ~emmc |
| 20:42.15 | infobot | somebody said emmc was is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 |
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| 20:42.48 | bencoh | something's missing but I cant remember the alias ... check the wiki :) |
| 20:42.54 | bencoh | ~nand |
| 20:42.55 | infobot | i heard nand is the basicly a binary operator that negatates the effects an and operation (see and); also nand gate builds all other gates |
| 20:42.59 | bencoh | hm, nope |
| 20:43.07 | bencoh | ~fiasco |
| 20:43.07 | infobot | L4-compatible real-time microkernel capable of running Linux in usermode. URL: http://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/fiasco/ |
| 20:43.10 | bencoh | meh |
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| 20:46.21 | hyppocrate | thank(s bencoh |
| 20:46.28 | hyppocrate | and merry christmas |
| 20:46.33 | bencoh | :) |
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| 21:47.39 | ReqGame | n900 money for x-mas :) |
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| 23:42.23 | hyppocrate | re |
| 23:42.30 | hyppocrate | merry christmas again |
| 23:43.05 | hyppocrate | do you know wich EMMC i need to use for flashing my nokia n900 ? |
| 23:43.37 | hyppocrate | i have only RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 23:43.46 | hyppocrate | and i remember i use 2 roms |
| 23:43.51 | hyppocrate | when i flash it |
| 23:44.03 | hyppocrate | 1 fireware and 1 EMMC |
| 23:44.05 | hyppocrate | ôà |
| 23:44.18 | nox- | ~emmc |
| 23:44.18 | infobot | emmc is probably is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 |
| 23:44.22 | nox- | ~emmc2 |
| 23:44.22 | infobot | somebody said emmc2 was http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22FGDOJCSI/--LID--FiRe1275064390175/163EC1AE_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.IBERIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22VHGOMWUG/--LID--FiRe1274862877184/E3AD4912_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SEAP_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin, or see emmc3 |
| 23:44.24 | nox- | ~emmc3 |
| 23:44.25 | infobot | rumour has it, emmc3 is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/4/--FID--A0A22UYGVCFDF/--LID--FiRe1272381325983/E14B4F3B_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.SCANDINAVIA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 23:44.33 | hyppocrate | why 3 ? |
| 23:44.36 | nox- | ~flashing |
| 23:44.36 | infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir/*, cd into it, do ./flash-it-all.sh |
| 23:44.38 | hyppocrate | different version ? |
| 23:45.01 | nox- | or locale |
| 23:45.06 | hyppocrate | thx you |
| 23:45.10 | hyppocrate | i will use central europe |
| 23:45.12 | nox- | np |
| 23:45.29 | hyppocrate | merry christmas |
| 23:45.47 | hyppocrate | ~fireware |
| 23:46.06 | nox- | ~vanilla |
| 23:46.06 | infobot | vanilla is, like, just plain old up & down & up & down & up & down & up & down & ooooh!, or the finest of the flavors |
| 23:46.11 | nox- | hm |
| 23:46.13 | hyppocrate | !!! |
| 23:46.16 | hyppocrate | ho yep |
| 23:46.19 | hyppocrate | it's that :) |
| 23:46.23 | hyppocrate | i remember |
| 23:46.25 | hyppocrate | ^^ |
| 23:46.28 | hyppocrate | vanilla |
| 23:46.35 | hyppocrate | and emmc |
| 23:46.41 | nox- | yeah |
| 23:46.58 | hyppocrate | opps |
| 23:46.58 | hyppocrate | oops |
| 23:47.11 | hyppocrate | i didn"t read before right , just see ~vanilla |
| 23:47.12 | hyppocrate | -___- |
| 23:47.12 | nox- | ~combined |
| 23:47.13 | infobot | i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 23:47.26 | hyppocrate | i look that |
| 23:47.29 | hyppocrate | but not understand :/ |
| 23:47.38 | hyppocrate | about fiasco |
| 23:48.17 | hyppocrate | i will go flash it |
| 23:48.19 | hyppocrate | thx |
| 23:48.24 | nox- | np |