| 00:00.40 | Oksana | Where does MicroB store its search engine, aka, Google? I do not mean _default_ search which can be set in about:config; I mean the pop-up "Google" when typing in location bar. Theoretically, it should be an OpenSearch XML somewhere, but where?.. |
| 00:30.33 | jonwil | The only place on a stock N900 filesystem I can find the relavent search URL is in all-maemo.js |
| 00:30.58 | jonwil | which is in usr/share/microb-engine/defaults/pref |
| 00:31.11 | jonwil | so presumably its set via a pref in that file that can be overridden by a local pref |
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| 00:33.41 | jonwil | yep, confirmed, the keyword.url pref IS the one that controls the search in the location bar and the default web screen with the bookmarks on it |
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| 01:02.19 | Oksana | Ok, confirmed. It goes against all the logic. If there is a microb-patch which creates this "Google Search"... It should be thrown away in favour of supporting OpenSearch xml thingies, like the ones from Mycroft. |
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| 03:44.13 | jonwil | We cant change it because one of the bits that use the pref (browser.launch) is closed source |
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| 06:17.36 | b1101 | I purchased one and am going to sell it unused |
| 06:19.05 | b1101 | It was my backup N900, and I don't think I could use it while not being completely paranoid about dropping/ruining it somehow, as I see no other option for a phone. I just purchased a T9 style phone and will use that until there is a real option |
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| 09:23.10 | cacaphony | Hello. I'm repeating a sound every 15 minutes with a simple script. However, when I start another application that makes sound, it stops working until I restart the program. Can anyone help with this? |
| 09:23.15 | cacaphony | Here's the bash script I'm running: http://pastebin.com/KdQFt2q3 |
| 09:25.24 | neal | I want to use my N900 as a backup internet connection (connected via USB to my router). But to establish a connection, I need to manually select "PC Suite". Is there a way to configure the N900 to automatically use pc suite mode? |
| 09:31.45 | neal | cacaphony: Do you get any output? |
| 09:32.30 | neal | cacaphony: Have you configured mplayer to use pulseaudio? |
| 09:32.49 | neal | cacaphony: If it is trying to use the raw devices and then pulseaudio grabs them, then it will be locked out. |
| 09:32.54 | wnd | I haven't really tried running mplayer and other sound producing programs on n900 but I'd check audio output plugin first, as neal is suggesting |
| 09:33.55 | wnd | you could try to use mplayer -ao pulse sound.wav |
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| 17:29.21 | Pali | hi, kernel-power v53 was released, see: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 |
| 17:29.31 | bencoh | yay |
| 17:38.05 | kerio | neat |
| 17:38.30 | reinob | wow thanks Pali |
| 17:39.00 | kerio | what does it do |
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| 18:25.54 | rZr | hi |
| 18:27.46 | stryngs | Whoa |
| 18:27.47 | stryngs | kp53 |
| 18:28.06 | stryngs | Pali: Is it stable with packet injection? |
| 18:28.34 | Pali | I think yes |
| 18:28.40 | stryngs | Very cool |
| 18:28.48 | stryngs | I will be testing that soon, I'll throw it into beta =) |
| 18:29.16 | stryngs | Pali: Is it stable without cssu? |
| 18:29.39 | Pali | kp has nothing with cssu |
| 18:30.08 | stryngs | right right, but most people here are all about cssu. I specifically avoid cssu for compatibility reasons |
| 18:30.19 | stryngs | Just wanted to make sure it wasn't relying on anything cssu after the upgrade =) |
| 18:30.31 | stryngs | url for changelog? |
| 18:30.40 | stryngs | Very happy to hear about this btw Pali, good job =) |
| 18:30.41 | Pali | see tmo thread |
| 18:30.52 | Pali | there is also changelog |
| 18:31.46 | stryngs | searches for the "tmo thread" |
| 18:32.15 | Pali | see link ^^^^^ |
| 18:32.20 | stryngs | Ah |
| 18:32.26 | Pali | ~tmo |
| 18:32.27 | infobot | i heard tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
| 18:34.56 | stryngs | pali: http://termbin.com/vhz0 |
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| 18:35.04 | stryngs | That's a listing of all my kernel related .debs |
| 18:35.08 | rZr | do you know chem|st email ? |
| 18:35.45 | Pali | stryngs: packages are in extras-devel & testing |
| 18:35.59 | Pali | just update to kp53 via application manager or apt-get |
| 18:36.06 | stryngs | I got that, what i was getting at, obviously things ending in power52 will be replaced |
| 18:36.12 | stryngs | i can't |
| 18:36.17 | stryngs | it's complicated how my n900 works |
| 18:36.20 | stryngs | A lot of rbinds |
| 18:36.29 | stryngs | so i have to figure out things "beforehand" =/ |
| 18:37.05 | Pali | hm? |
| 18:37.15 | stryngs | So I'm guessing the following will be replaced: .kernel-power-flasher_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power-headers_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb, kernel-power_1%3a2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb |
| 18:37.20 | stryngs | BUt.... |
| 18:37.37 | stryngs | What about kernel-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb, kernel-modules-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb, kernel-power-settings_0.17_armel.deb |
| 18:37.45 | stryngs | Do those 3 also get replaced? |
| 18:37.49 | Pali | -maemo packages are not used |
| 18:37.56 | Pali | do not install them |
| 18:38.43 | stryngs | oh really |
| 18:38.49 | stryngs | So having those installed is wrong hten?? |
| 18:39.02 | Pali | yes |
| 18:39.29 | stryngs | heh |
| 18:39.38 | stryngs | My system is stable, what makes it wrong out of a knowledge perspective? |
| 18:39.49 | Pali | -maemo are transitional packages |
| 18:39.57 | Pali | which should be removed (now) |
| 18:40.00 | kerio | Pali: why isn't kernel-power 53 in extras-devel? :o |
| 18:40.13 | Pali | ?? |
| 18:40.24 | Pali | maemo.org interface told that it is |
| 18:40.29 | bencoh | you mean "how comes it's already in -testing" ? |
| 18:40.59 | Pali | I clicked for promoting them to -testing |
| 18:41.09 | kerio | mh, it's not in merlin1991's extras-devel mirror |
| 18:41.12 | kerio | nvm |
| 18:41.20 | Pali | mirror is not up-to-date... |
| 18:41.22 | Pali | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/ |
| 18:41.26 | Pali | there is kp53 |
| 18:41.34 | kerio | i guess it's going to be up-to-date eventually |
| 18:41.52 | bencoh | (hm, actually it's not in -testing according to maemo.org/packages webuit) |
| 18:41.54 | bencoh | webui* |
| 18:42.34 | Pali | maybe need to wait until that some process move them to -testing |
| 18:42.40 | bencoh | maybe |
| 18:42.58 | stryngs | Pali: Package: kernel-power-settings, U say do NOT install this? |
| 18:43.08 | Pali | only -maemo |
| 18:43.12 | stryngs | I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to make im damn sure right |
| 18:43.14 | Pali | settings is needed for overlock |
| 18:43.23 | stryngs | Ah |
| 18:43.27 | Pali | *overclock |
| 18:43.28 | stryngs | is 0.17 the newest? |
| 18:43.32 | stryngs | I have 10kbps internet |
| 18:43.33 | Pali | no 0.18 |
| 18:43.38 | stryngs | so an apt-get update is "difficult" |
| 18:43.53 | Pali | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power-settings/ |
| 18:44.40 | stryngs | Ok |
| 18:44.58 | stryngs | So I will get anything power53, and purge kernel-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb and kernel-modules-maemo_2.6.28-maemo22_armel.deb |
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| 18:49.01 | stryngs | Pali, another dumb question: I try to only install what's needed, so I'm in: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/. I see the following debs for kp53: kernel-power-bootimg_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-debug_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-flasher_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-headers_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules-deb |
| 18:49.07 | stryngs | ug_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-modules_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb, kernel-power-source_2.6.28-10power53_all.deb, kernel-power_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb , linux-kernel-power-headers_2.6.28-10power53_armel.deb |
| 18:49.19 | stryngs | I'm guessing I do NOT need every single one |
| 18:49.25 | Pali | why you not install it via application manager? |
| 18:49.27 | stryngs | The main thing, is that packet injection is capable |
| 18:49.32 | stryngs | Because i cannot |
| 18:49.35 | stryngs | This is for the PwnPhone |
| 18:49.44 | stryngs | Using rbinds for /usr and such |
| 18:49.46 | stryngs | Impossible to do |
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| 18:49.57 | stryngs | new kernel requires manual tinkering and dpkg -i to install |
| 18:50.12 | Pali | for normal flashing you need: kernel-power, -modules, -flasher |
| 18:50.22 | Pali | for uboot you need also -bootimg |
| 18:50.30 | Pali | for overclock you need -settings |
| 18:51.01 | Pali | and for packet injection, see TMO thread |
| 18:51.18 | stryngs | so -debug, -modules-debug, -source, are all unneeded |
| 18:52.21 | bencoh | I guess upgrading kernel-power wont make it try to reflash kp in place of uboot (I have -bootimg) ? |
| 18:53.47 | stryngs | Thank u pali =) |
| 18:54.19 | Pali | if you have uboot in nand, you will be asked if you want to replace it with kernel or not |
| 18:54.36 | reinob | bencoh: just doing exactly that. it asks you to replace u-boot with new kp53. I closed the question (=no) |
| 18:54.54 | bencoh | oh, that's nice |
| 18:54.57 | Pali | just reject flashing of kernel into nand, you do not want to touch uboot |
| 18:55.13 | kerio | kernel features as dpkg dependencies is such a gross misuse of dpkg :c |
| 18:56.00 | reinob | yes that's it. going to reboot now. if u-boot was removed you'll know by me not coming back in the next hour or so.. :) |
| 18:56.26 | bencoh | :] |
| 18:58.05 | Sicelo | already agreed to overwrite uboot, :p |
| 18:58.13 | Sicelo | has non-working usb btw |
| 18:58.25 | Sicelo | but i think it's under control |
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| 18:59.00 | bencoh | erm :D |
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| 19:02.10 | reinob | I'm back |
| 19:02.22 | reinob | u-boot was preserved - OK |
| 19:02.45 | Sicelo | rebooting, after overwriting of uboot |
| 19:03.07 | Sicelo | dots.. |
| 19:03.09 | reinob | first reboot failed, but this happens from time to time (race condition in preinit or such, when creating some device nodes) |
| 19:03.10 | kerio | lol i forgot i had uboot-bootimg installed as well |
| 19:03.25 | reinob | battery out and back in and I'm all set with u-boot and kp53 |
| 19:03.30 | Sicelo | hildon-desktop ;) |
| 19:03.31 | Sicelo | win |
| 19:03.37 | kerio | reinob: i sometimes get trashed graphics |
| 19:03.52 | kerio | because powervr |
| 19:05.02 | reinob | kerio: that's when rebooting. I think it's some fvck up in glsl. seems to use the fvcking locale causing it to fail to compile things like "2.5" when it thinks it should be "2,5" |
| 19:05.18 | stryngs | Sicelo: I thought the dots were the desktop? There's more to the n900 than just moving dots??? |
| 19:05.22 | reinob | I mean, how brain damaged does one have to be to localize numbers, or compiler error messages! |
| 19:07.36 | reinob | both the racy preinit/rcS and the glsl crap are (for a long time) on my to-do list. I plan to retire in about 25 years. When that happens, I'll solve both issues :) |
| 19:08.54 | kerio | reinob: meh, it's such an awful collection of cruft that it's probably worth rebuilding it from scratch |
| 19:09.00 | kerio | see ~fptf |
| 19:11.07 | Sicelo | stryngs: just being at dots doesn't guarantee you will get into useable desktop. iirc some people have had issues where they get into boot loops at dots, or something similar |
| 19:11.18 | stryngs | I know =), I was poking fun Sicelo |
| 19:11.23 | stryngs | I guess i failed in my jokes |
| 19:14.43 | reinob | stryngs: FWIW I found your joke good :) |
| 19:15.14 | reinob | there's a number of maemo users whose only experience with maemo is staring at the dots until they buy another phone :) |
| 19:18.22 | Sicelo | hasn't a sense of humor, presumably :D |
| 19:18.56 | stryngs | hehe reinob =) |
| 19:19.42 | reinob | Sicelo: you replaced your kernel partition unintendedly, without having usb, and still managed to write about it as if it didn't bother you that much. that's some sense of humor :) |
| 19:21.14 | stryngs | hmm, question. For cssu, i've started disecting community-ssu-enabler_0.7-4_all.deb |
| 19:21.23 | stryngs | it seems that it just replaces repos, and does apt-get upgrade |
| 19:21.56 | reinob | careful with that. I've also "manually" installed CSSU-thumb on my spare N900 and it was a bit of a mess |
| 19:21.58 | stryngs | so if i grabbed appropriate .debs i wanted from http://repository.maemo.org/community, then i have all things cssu, yes? |
| 19:22.18 | stryngs | i'd love the upgraded packages, it's just things are "manual only" for my build |
| 19:23.33 | reinob | not really. the ssu-enabler contains AFAIR another .deb that needs to be installed |
| 19:23.51 | stryngs | yeah, its blank |
| 19:23.59 | reinob | if you really really need the information I can try to figure it out again. But you have plenty of cssu people here |
| 19:24.00 | stryngs | mp-fremantle-community-pr_0_all.deb |
| 19:24.09 | stryngs | Conflicts: mp-fremantle-generic-pr, mp-fremantle-203-pr, mp-fremantle-002-pr, mp-fremantle-003-pr |
| 19:24.11 | reinob | (but they will recommend doing the "supported" way) |
| 19:24.11 | stryngs | Replaces: mp-fremantle-generic-pr, mp-fremantle-203-pr, mp-fremantle-002-pr, mp-fremantle-003-pr |
| 19:24.14 | stryngs | that's it |
| 19:24.17 | stryngs | Of course they will |
| 19:24.22 | stryngs | I do things the hacker way =) |
| 19:24.50 | stryngs | http://termbin.com/mbdc |
| 19:24.50 | reinob | me too (mostly). but then you don't ask here. figure it out yourself like a real man.. or at least like I did :)))) |
| 19:24.58 | stryngs | Read that and youll understand why it's all manual |
| 19:25.04 | stryngs | Oh i am |
| 19:25.17 | stryngs | Just curious if there were any naught postinst/preinst scripts to be aware of |
| 19:25.23 | reinob | (that was a joke in case it was missed :) |
| 19:25.34 | reinob | stryngs: yes there are |
| 19:25.45 | stryngs | naughty naughty |
| 19:25.49 | reinob | laughs |
| 19:25.56 | stryngs | do they do anything more than replace /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 19:26.02 | stryngs | and launching ham, etc.. |
| 19:26.06 | reinob | beware of the python-optification crap |
| 19:26.07 | stryngs | I'm talking hardcore kernel stuff |
| 19:26.13 | stryngs | i hate pymaemo |
| 19:26.18 | stryngs | I'd shoot the developer if i could |
| 19:27.01 | reinob | me too. I had to remove something (sorry don't know anymore, can look it up still) because whenever the cssu installation started (apt-get upgrade) at some point my N900 would INSTANTLY reboot |
| 19:27.08 | reinob | not joking now! |
| 19:27.50 | reinob | it's some pymaemo prerm or postinst or what-fuck-ever which probably umounts /usr or something similar |
| 19:28.25 | bencoh | I wonder why he didnt just optify in dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:28.58 | reinob | wonders why nokia didn't put /usr in the mmc directly from the start |
| 19:29.02 | stryngs | ^^^^ |
| 19:30.00 | bencoh | yeah right ... but that's an old one |
| 19:30.20 | stryngs | honestly, we could reconfigure pymaemo, but i wonder what expects the rbind nonsense |
| 19:33.32 | reinob | hmm I can't find it [the problem]. /etc/init.d/pymaemo-optify only touches what's in /etc/default/pymaemo-optify, which only relates to python. |
| 19:33.54 | reinob | who volunteers to do "/etc/init.d/pymaemo-optify stop" and report back? |
| 19:34.17 | reinob | hell, I'll do it myself. I just ruined my >100 days uptime when upgrading kp, so what the heck |
| 19:34.51 | reinob | OK nothing happened. "can't unmount: resource or device busy" |
| 19:34.58 | reinob | maemo is just too robust :) |
| 19:35.07 | reinob | ^^ (joking) |
| 19:36.15 | stryngs | heh |
| 19:36.19 | stryngs | Here's the question |
| 19:36.24 | stryngs | Just rebuild the .deb itself |
| 19:36.39 | stryngs | The main thing is.... for the mounts it creates, do ANY packages that depend on it, do they rely on the new locations? |
| 19:36.44 | stryngs | if not, would be a simple fix |
| 19:36.57 | stryngs | dpkg -x <deb> . |
| 19:36.59 | stryngs | mkdir DEBIAN |
| 19:37.02 | stryngs | ar -x <deb> |
| 19:37.05 | stryngs | tar zxf control |
| 19:37.08 | stryngs | tar zxf control.tar.gz |
| 19:37.13 | stryngs | mv control post* pre* DEBIAN |
| 19:37.19 | stryngs | ......... Modify whatever .......... |
| 19:37.21 | stryngs | cd .. |
| 19:37.26 | stryngs | dpkg-deb -b <dir> . |
| 19:37.30 | stryngs | dpkg -i yer new package |
| 19:37.32 | stryngs | done deal =) |
| 19:38.12 | reinob | stryngs: you're talking about manually optifying a (python, or whatever) package |
| 19:38.34 | stryngs | sure |
| 19:38.35 | stryngs | Simple |
| 19:38.39 | reinob | the pymaemo-optification mess is something you can't uninstall. the whole system depends on this crap |
| 19:38.42 | stryngs | I build .debs matively all day =) |
| 19:39.02 | reinob | we don't need it, but without it the whole thing breaks |
| 19:39.08 | stryngs | Not true |
| 19:39.14 | stryngs | I've hacked pymaemo before |
| 19:39.17 | reinob | just made the mental association with systemd. don't know why |
| 19:39.27 | stryngs | But, with my newest pwnphone release, I reverted because i figured out how to get around the nonsense |
| 19:39.32 | stryngs | I just hate the mounts that clutter df output |
| 19:39.36 | reinob | me too |
| 19:39.41 | stryngs | So lets fix it |
| 19:39.45 | stryngs | What all Depends: on it? |
| 19:39.50 | stryngs | I'm all about hacking the n900 =) |
| 19:40.01 | reinob | but without the mounts (or symlinks) to need to put the stuff somewhere else (MMC) |
| 19:40.16 | stryngs | check the url i gave ya |
| 19:40.21 | reinob | you'd need to optify a lot of packages (pre)installed in maemo |
| 19:40.30 | stryngs | Why optify |
| 19:40.31 | stryngs | I dont |
| 19:40.35 | stryngs | i simply remap /usr |
| 19:40.41 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.42 | stryngs | etc... |
| 19:41.00 | stryngs | http://termbin.com/fk5j |
| 19:41.02 | stryngs | there ya go |
| 19:41.10 | stryngs | /home/rootfs_bind |
| 19:41.10 | reinob | just checked your link. looks ugly :) |
| 19:41.16 | stryngs | Its ugly because of pymaemo |
| 19:41.36 | stryngs | But i build with --prefix=/usr all day now |
| 19:41.36 | reinob | yup |
| 19:41.39 | stryngs | No memory issues |
| 19:41.45 | stryngs | no running out of space on 256mb / |
| 19:41.46 | stryngs | etc.. |
| 19:41.51 | stryngs | It's a wonderful way to do stuff |
| 19:42.13 | rZr | chainsawbike, hi http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated |
| 19:42.16 | reinob | not bad :) |
| 19:42.30 | rZr | reinob, congratz for beeing candidate |
| 19:42.39 | stryngs | It just makes certain things.......... "manual" |
| 19:42.47 | stryngs | i.e.. for a kernel upgrade, it requires a flash |
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| 19:42.50 | reinob | rZr: thanks |
| 19:42.52 | rZr | chem|st, ping |
| 19:43.07 | stryngs | because /opt, /usr, /sbin, /lib are mounted upon |
| 19:43.07 | rZr | reinob, may I suggest to edit your signature |
| 19:43.33 | rZr | reinob, to promote this election |
| 19:43.46 | rZr | reinob, election not yourself ;) |
| 19:43.48 | reinob | do I have one of those? |
| 19:43.59 | reinob | I mean, a signature? |
| 19:44.13 | rZr | reinob, see mine at bottom http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1451484#post1451484 |
| 19:44.22 | rZr | 3rd link |
| 19:44.28 | rZr | copy and paste |
| 19:44.45 | reinob | I think I have them filtered out |
| 19:45.05 | reinob | is this the "about me" here? (http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=51598&tab=aboutme&simple=1) |
| 19:45.28 | reinob | ah, found it :) |
| 19:45.29 | rZr | no |
| 19:45.35 | reinob | in control panel! |
| 19:45.44 | rZr | yea |
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| 19:46.54 | rZr | Morpog_PC__, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1451484#post1451484 same thread |
| 19:47.13 | rZr | qwazix, next one |
| 19:47.27 | rZr | sixwheeledbeast1, da! |
| 19:49.15 | reinob | rZr: signature - CHECK. Thanks for the heads up |
| 19:50.43 | rZr | reinob, I dont see it maybe on next post |
| 19:51.51 | stryngs | hmm |
| 19:52.37 | reinob | rZr: just posted this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1451496&postcount=4 |
| 19:52.46 | reinob | do you see the signature (I don't, but I never see them) |
| 19:53.49 | stryngs | http://termbin.com/shvf |
| 19:53.57 | stryngs | reinob: those are what requires pymaemo-optify |
| 19:54.21 | stryngs | looks easy enuf |
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| 19:55.42 | stryngs | reinob: looking at python2.5-minimal, it doesnt seem to use anything via dpkg --contents remotely related to pymaemo-optify |
| 19:55.53 | stryngs | so..... one could theorize that a fixing of pymaemo-optify could be done =) |
| 19:56.00 | reinob | that's only the direct dependencies. python2.5-minimal is needed by python2.5, which is required by lots of stuff |
| 19:56.14 | stryngs | right |
| 19:56.25 | stryngs | but... look at the /etc/init.d file |
| 19:56.35 | reinob | yup it's really nothing |
| 19:56.46 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.47 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.47 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.47 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.47 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.50 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.01 | stryngs | it just makes "mounts" |
| 19:57.05 | stryngs | so in essence, its stupid |
| 19:57.05 | reinob | maybe I'm looking at the wrong place. maybe it was not the pymaemo-optify. I know that CSSU enabler depends on HAM, whcih I had uninstalled long ago |
| 19:57.15 | reinob | maybe that's where the trouble comes from |
| 19:57.30 | stryngs | My point i'm getting at, is that if people use a /home/rootfs_bind technique, they could negate pymaemo-optify |
| 19:57.49 | stryngs | because even with pymaemo-optify, eventually u fill up / |
| 19:58.22 | reinob | yes. sorry I still refer to the "original topic" of manually installing CSSU |
| 19:58.22 | stryngs | it doesn't address the root memory concern of the 256mb nand chip |
| 19:58.22 | stryngs | no worries =) |
| 19:58.22 | stryngs | i veered off |
| 19:58.22 | reinob | me too :) |
| 19:58.28 | stryngs | anywho, i'm going to do some research |
| 19:58.48 | stryngs | i'm going to install kp53 tonight, and chop the deb for pymaemo |
| 19:58.56 | stryngs | i'll report tomorrow if my phone works right |
| 19:58.59 | stryngs | I'm pretty sure it does |
| 19:59.13 | reinob | are you on TMO? |
| 19:59.21 | rZr | reinob, yea it's there thanks |
| 19:59.39 | rZr | reinob, now you have to find someone who will do the same and so on.. |
| 19:59.41 | stryngs | /usr/lib/python2.5, /usr/share/pyshared, /usr/lib/pyshared, /usr/share/python-support, /usr/lib/python-support. Those are the affected dirs |
| 19:59.43 | reinob | I'm extremely new in IRC and I don't plan to use that much (unless I'm elected to the council). But I do read TMO every day |
| 19:59.57 | rZr | reinob, this is your candidate test ;-) |
| 20:00.05 | reinob | stryngs: I'd be happy if you posted your findings on TMO |
| 20:00.07 | stryngs | So what he was trying to do, was save space for / by doing the same thing i do |
| 20:00.10 | stryngs | I will |
| 20:00.30 | stryngs | Hell, i'll show my whole technique, I think I have the cleanest one (cept for the flash to upgrade kernel....) |
| 20:00.34 | stryngs | I love my n900 |
| 20:00.36 | stryngs | cuddles it |
| 20:00.49 | reinob | my precious.. |
| 20:01.17 | stryngs | rcS-late is the trick |
| 20:01.17 | stryngs | modify that and it's pretty much an fstab |
| 20:01.28 | rZr | reinob, ask me if you want to edit wiki too |
| 20:01.57 | reinob | rZr: OK. But not today. Hopefully tomorrow or during the weekend |
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| 20:02.16 | rZr | reinob, sure there is no hurry |
| 20:02.23 | reinob | stryngs: rcS-late and all others would be nice to hack around and clean-up |
| 20:02.28 | reinob | but now I have to leave |
| 20:02.32 | reinob | cheers |
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| 20:07.54 | merlin1991 | kerio: I'll have a look at the mirror |
| 20:07.57 | merlin1991 | but it should sync daily |
| 20:08.14 | kerio | merlin1991: well it doesn't help with packages that were added today :> |
| 20:08.22 | merlin1991 | ah |
| 20:08.22 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 20:08.28 | kerio | sync it every 30 seconds at most |
| 20:08.34 | kerio | (don't) |
| 20:09.47 | rZr | merlin1991, would you mind if I nomiate you for MC ? |
| 20:09.57 | rZr | nominate |
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| 20:10.28 | merlin1991 | last time around I ended up not having the time, I don't think it's such a good idea |
| 20:10.39 | rZr | ok |
| 20:10.43 | rZr | no problem |
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| 20:39.42 | stryngs | Can someone please confirm on their n900 that /sbin/vol_id is a symlink to: /lib/udev/vol_id |
| 20:40.02 | stryngs | and for /lib/udev/vol_id, that it does NOT exist? |
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| 20:44.08 | wizbit | i am running CSSU stable, with the power kernel, if i change myDocs to ext3, do i need to edit mmc-mount? |
| 20:44.21 | stryngs | wizbit: can u check this for me? |
| 20:44.25 | wizbit | sure |
| 20:44.34 | stryngs | i appreciate it much |
| 20:44.39 | stryngs | i show it as a dead symlink |
| 20:44.44 | wizbit | hold on |
| 20:44.51 | stryngs | and if u change MyDocs you screw up the camera, fyi |
| 20:44.58 | Morpog_PC__ | rZr, I am honoured that I got nominated, but I need to decline, as I got too less time for such a important job. I don't even have enough time to contribute to nemomobile and glacier as much as I would like to :( |
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| 20:45.03 | wizbit | ls: /sbin/vol_id: No such file or directory |
| 20:45.09 | stryngs | cheers |
| 20:45.19 | stryngs | how about /lib/udev/vol_id |
| 20:45.22 | stryngs | does that exist |
| 20:45.33 | wizbit | ls: /lib/udev/vol_id: No such file or directory |
| 20:45.34 | wizbit | Nokia-N900:~# |
| 20:45.43 | stryngs | wtf do i have the dead symlink |
| 20:45.49 | stryngs | anyone know how to find all dead symlinks? |
| 20:46.09 | wizbit | im sure there is a way using find, try google |
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| 20:51.40 | merlin1991 | stryngs: you could check which package it came from with 'dpkg-query -S /sbin/vol_id' |
| 20:51.50 | rZr | Morpog_PC__, ok I update this on wiki |
| 20:52.01 | rZr | Morpog_PC__, feel free to change |
| 20:53.05 | stryngs | merlin1991: ^^ |
| 20:53.34 | stryngs | heh, udev |
| 20:53.59 | stryngs | merlin1991: I should have thought about that |
| 20:54.06 | stryngs | Reason i asked is because I'm going to "fix" pymaemo |
| 20:54.16 | stryngs | and "un*#*#" the optification nonsense |
| 20:55.03 | stryngs | So, the question is why i have a broken symlink for an essential .deb |
| 20:55.14 | stryngs | 0.125-7+142.maemo1+0m5 |
| 20:55.17 | stryngs | anyone else have udev? |
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| 21:25.40 | wizbit | anybody know how to get ovi maps downloaded? |
| 21:26.40 | rZr | there is a thread about that on tmo |
| 21:27.43 | wizbit | tmo? |
| 21:29.43 | freemangordon | ~tmo |
| 21:29.43 | infobot | [tmo] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
| 21:30.30 | wizbit | i think they are free |
| 21:30.31 | wizbit | http://nokia-ovi-maps.en.softonic.com/symbian/download |
| 21:30.51 | rZr | wizbit, http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia |
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| 21:50.30 | wizbit | does the latest version of ovi maps work with maemo? |
| 21:53.51 | rZr | chainsawbike, are you aware of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated ? |
| 21:53.58 | rZr | chem|st, are you too ? |
| 21:55.46 | Pali | ~kernel-power |
| 21:55.49 | Pali | ~kp |
| 21:55.49 | infobot | [kp] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 |
| 21:56.03 | Pali | ~literal kp |
| 21:56.03 | infobot | "#maemo kp" is "http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823" |
| 21:56.23 | Pali | infobot, no #maemo kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 |
| 21:56.23 | infobot | okay, Pali |
| 21:56.26 | Pali | ~kp |
| 21:56.27 | infobot | hmm... kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94287 |
| 22:07.21 | wizbit | is modrana worth using for gps location? |
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| 22:29.59 | chem|st | rZr: I decline (is that enough?) |
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| 22:37.35 | rZr | chem|st, yea I note this |
| 22:37.44 | rZr | this channel is logged is it |
| 22:38.03 | rZr | and if you're a fake chem|st real one will notice it |
| 22:38.18 | chem|st | rZr: I am logged in... |
| 22:38.25 | rZr | jk |
| 22:38.27 | M4rtinK | wizbit: sure :) |
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| 23:59.01 | kerio | well this is annoying |
| 23:59.08 | kerio | i barely got xchat to connect via ssl |
| 23:59.15 | kerio | now i can't make my client cert work |