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| 01:08.06 | sledges | is n900's PMIC TWL4030/TPS65950 ? and has it been successfully using the mainstream drivers/power/twl4030_charger.c ? |
| 01:08.22 | sledges | asking as I heard OpenPandora folk having some weird quirks with charging batteries there |
| 01:08.47 | sledges | so trying to watch out for any good Nokia patches out there |
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| 02:30.21 | totalizator | I should be fine http://lpaste.net/4640198807361945600 |
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| 11:42.11 | chem|st | totalizator: RAM usage up to having the desktop unresponsive like you are running on a 100MHz P1 |
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| 11:43.28 | chem|st | nokia made me aware of this very early and I never ever even thought about using anything python on the N900 ever again |
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| 12:54.25 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: yes, many python widget leak too. This causes h-d and h-h too become slow. |
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| 14:35.35 | jon_y | so why is python so leaky? |
| 14:35.58 | jon_y | bad design in the interpreter? or just maemo? |
| 14:36.07 | jon_y | or pygtk |
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| 14:46.10 | kerio | "leaky"? |
| 14:46.28 | kerio | i doubt there's memory leak bugs in cpython |
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| 15:00.20 | bencoh | maybe not in python, but most probably in a python widget :p |
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| 16:30.43 | sixwheeledbeast | jon_y, kerio, bencoh: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86804 |
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| 16:41.08 | totalizator | chem|st: ohwell, I have copleted Starcraft on 486DX4/100MHz with 16MB RAM :3 |
| 16:43.01 | totalizator | sixwheeledbeast: no more python widgets for me then |
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| 16:43.59 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: yep, I only use the calendar widget. I have uninstalled every other widget I can |
| 16:44.45 | sixwheeledbeast | not even QBW which I used a lot 2 or more years ago. |
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| 16:45.26 | totalizator | qbw? |
| 16:48.11 | totalizator | speaking of h-d - is there some easy way to paginate the launcher? like here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63460 |
| 16:49.48 | totalizator | original bahavior is one of the biggest design flaws of n900 for me |
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| 16:55.20 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: queen beecon widget (a very useful widget application) |
| 16:55.41 | stryngs | anyone have pip installed on their n00? |
| 16:55.44 | stryngs | n900 rather |
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| 16:58.27 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: unless it was added to CSSU h-d no. Would be good to get it in there with a gconf or transitions.ini file option. |
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| 17:13.07 | Vajb | just out of curiosity. is there a list of all python widgets to check if i have them installed? based on ham it seems that i just have dropn900 which is python |
| 17:15.34 | totalizator | sixwheeledbeast: hah, I have naver even tried to instal qbw being afraid it gonna kill my n900 |
| 17:16.20 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: nope, not afaik. Maybe a search on a dependency will work. Ideally I wanted to check ever widget to see if there was a bug, however, it's not that simple as it may only happen with combinations of widgetz |
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| 17:17.19 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: it's a very good, flexible app with good documentation. I just can't justify the memory usage. |
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| 17:22.51 | Vajb | well everything that came up on ham by python search was related to dropn900 and since it doesn't work i might just remove it |
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| 17:24.22 | Vajb | i don't have continuing issues with slowness but from time to time i notice some slowliness, but then at the next moment it's working fine without reboot or killing any process... |
| 17:25.09 | Vajb | and well. Comparing to e90 this is rocket :) |
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| 17:25.57 | totalizator | Vajb: you can do dpkg --get-selections | grep widget and then apt-cache depends <pkg> |
| 17:29.15 | Vajb | only widget that i use at the moment is that calendar widget |
| 17:29.51 | Vajb | but can widget cause problems even if it's not activated on desktop? |
| 17:30.19 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I believe python widget can yes |
| 17:32.25 | sixwheeledbeast | I can only assume the device is busy doing something else, top and powertop/zzztop will help with that. |
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| 17:39.57 | Vajb | it seems that i don't have any python widgets installed |
| 17:40.30 | Vajb | what does zzztop? |
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| 17:57.49 | sixwheeledbeast | ~zzztop |
| 17:57.49 | infobot | zzztop is probably - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop |
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| 18:11.30 | Vajb | i c |
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| 19:01.08 | wizbit | my n900 backcover does not have a magnet, so that means the sd card is not recognized |
| 19:01.21 | wizbit | is there a software way to fool the n900 that the backcover is always on? |
| 19:08.45 | wizbit | my god, i just realised the n900 has a stylus built in |
| 19:08.48 | wizbit | where have i been |
| 19:10.02 | bencoh | oO |
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| 19:10.15 | bencoh | you mean you hadnt seen it ? |
| 19:10.42 | wizbit | i didnt realise it was built into the phone, and can be pulled out |
| 19:13.24 | kerio | when did you buy your n900 |
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| 19:22.40 | Sicelo | wow! |
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| 19:29.39 | wizbit | on ebay, got it cheap because it cant recognize extra sd card, but when i held a magnet up against the back cover, the sd card came alive |
| 19:29.59 | wizbit | so all i need now is another back cover what has the little magnets |
| 19:30.09 | wizbit | or some little magnets what i can glue on |
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| 19:36.11 | ashneo76 | Anybody know where to get flasher-3.5 from? |
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| 19:40.45 | reinob | http://web.archive.org/web/20131117084237/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ |
| 19:41.10 | reinob | :) |
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| 19:49.10 | ashneo76 | Thank you so much. |
| 19:49.36 | reinob | make sure you download everything you might ever need and make a backup of it in three separate places |
| 19:49.47 | reinob | (HDD, DVD and cloud..) |
| 19:50.23 | ashneo76 | Yes. I plan to do that now. And possibly setup my n900 to point my backups. |
| 19:51.43 | ashneo76 | so Skeiron is down |
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| 19:54.59 | ashneo76 | Oh nvm. I misread that |
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| 19:57.18 | t4nk442 | Hello. I am from Russia. Recently, I have no access to wiki.maemo.org and repository.maemo.org. I can connect to repository.maemo.org through Tor or VPN in Netherlands. I have no access to wiki.maemo.org via Tor and VPN from home (Transtelecom network provider), but can connect from my work without VPN and Tor (Intercomtel provider). Сan anybody help me? |
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| 19:59.17 | t4nk442 | And I want to create a mirror of the repository. Is there any instructions? |
| 20:00.15 | reinob | t4nk442: re. first point: probably a victim of an overzealous filter. maybe techstaff can help you with that |
| 20:01.08 | reinob | t4nk442: re. second point: https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror |
| 20:01.21 | reinob | (no pun intended, hopefully you can read the wiki using your vpn) |
| 20:01.35 | reinob | ask again if you need help with that |
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| 20:12.04 | t4nk442 | Thank you. Will the repository automatically be used by other people? Or only if they manually add my address to repositories list. I ask because CentOS chooses the best mirror automatically.. |
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| 20:13.53 | reinob | AFAIK with apt-mirror you just create your (private) mirror. As long as you don't make your address public nobody will touch it |
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| 20:29.25 | t4nk442 | If I want to make a public repository, should i register it somewhere? |
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| 20:50.37 | reinob | not for maemo. you'd just need to "advertise" it (on talk.maemo.org) |
| 20:53.47 | stryngs | ~pip |
| 20:53.48 | infobot | methinks pip is the sexiest nerd... only a little out of Jen-ni's age range =oP |
| 20:53.53 | stryngs | ~easy_install |
| 20:53.58 | stryngs | ~easy-install |
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| 21:07.35 | t4nk442 | reinob: Thank you for responses. |
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| 21:46.09 | wizbit | what is your favourite theme for n900? |
| 21:47.40 | bencoh | maemeemo with fractal (flam3) backgrounds here |
| 21:48.50 | wizbit | wow how cool |
| 21:48.59 | wizbit | can that be downloaded from a repo? |
| 21:51.17 | bencoh | maemeemo ? sure |
| 21:51.51 | wizbit | installing :D |
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| 22:00.00 | wizbit | bencoh: do you use a icon pack? |
| 22:00.56 | bencoh | hmm yeah, harmattan or harmattan white (or black ?) |
| 22:01.00 | bencoh | one of these iirc |
| 22:05.11 | wizbit | bencoh: did you install harmattan icons seperately |
| 22:05.46 | bencoh | not sure |
| 22:06.13 | bencoh | maemeemo depends on harmattan-icons-pack |
| 22:06.45 | wizbit | ohh thats in Extras-devel |
| 22:06.50 | wizbit | thats why i dont have it |
| 22:06.59 | bencoh | who/what ? |
| 22:07.04 | wizbit | http://maemo.org/packages/view/harmattan-icons-pack/ |
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| 22:07.29 | bencoh | hmm ... isnt maemeemo in extras ? |
| 22:07.38 | bencoh | how would a package from extras depend on one from -devel ? |
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| 22:08.25 | bencoh | erm wait, the version from extras might actually be depending on harmattan-icons-pack-for-white-themes |
| 22:08.48 | wizbit | the only icons what look different on mine is what i launch app manager |
| 22:09.18 | bencoh | you'll need to restart hildon-desktop/hildon-home/systemui/hildon-status-menu |
| 22:09.23 | bencoh | (and maybe a few others) |
| 22:09.28 | bencoh | (or reboot your phone) |
| 22:09.40 | wizbit | i did reboot it but it didnt change |
| 22:12.20 | bencoh | what does dpkg -l |grep icon say ? |
| 22:13.14 | wizbit | maemo-icons-002 |
| 22:13.21 | wizbit | rtcom-skype-emoticons-theme |
| 22:13.25 | wizbit | thats it |
| 22:13.36 | bencoh | then you might have to install it |
| 22:13.52 | wizbit | dpkg -l | grep maemee |
| 22:14.00 | wizbit | maemeemo-theme |
| 22:14.15 | wizbit | the funny thing is all my app manager icons have changed |
| 22:14.17 | wizbit | they look nice |
| 22:14.20 | bencoh | iirc the maemeemo thread says you should use theme customizer |
| 22:14.46 | bencoh | I dont remember what I did :] |
| 22:15.30 | bencoh | n900:~$ grep -rn harmattan /etc/hildon/theme/ |
| 22:15.30 | bencoh | /etc/hildon/theme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:9:gtk-icon-theme-name = "harmattan-icons-pack" |
| 22:15.30 | bencoh | /etc/hildon/theme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache:58:harmattan-icons-pack |
| 22:15.30 | bencoh | /etc/hildon/theme/index.theme:9:IconTheme=harmattan-icons-pack |
| 22:15.53 | bencoh | I dont think I edited that manually |
| 22:16.06 | wizbit | my one says the same ! |
| 22:17.01 | wizbit | http://maemo.org/packages/view/harmattan-icons-pack/ |
| 22:17.08 | bencoh | try installing it |
| 22:17.08 | wizbit | it says there they are in Extra-devel |
| 22:17.17 | wizbit | so will enable catalogue and install them |
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| 22:24.19 | wizbit | wow the icons look amazing |
| 22:25.05 | wizbit | all i need now is a big clock fixed into the wallpaper |
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| 22:28.09 | wizbit | bencoh: do you use a different lock screen theme? |
| 22:28.15 | sixwheeledbeast | t4nk442: tor exit nodes are blocked on wiki.m.o and IIRC bugs.m.o, we have had a 99% reduction in spam due to this. |
| 22:28.19 | bencoh | yeah |
| 22:28.47 | bencoh | well I have a different background at least |
| 22:29.08 | bencoh | and I blanked the "slide to unlock" label |
| 22:29.24 | wizbit | there is a package called harmattan-lockscreen |
| 22:30.04 | bencoh | that's qtlockscreen-based |
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| 22:30.32 | bencoh | (which means qt, which in turns means a whole lot of memory) |
| 22:32.17 | bencoh | I wonder why we dont have fbgrab/fbdump ... how do people take reasonable screenshots from the commandline ? |
| 22:32.33 | bencoh | (not the imagemagick/convert borked rootwindow) |
| 22:33.23 | sixwheeledbeast | t4nk442: you will have to whitelist *.maemo.org or use a non tor browser unfortunately. Ideally this could do with having a captcha instead of the Apache ip blacklist. However, for security reasons this is what we have for now. |
| 22:34.46 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: superglue any strong magnet to the backcover. a piece of earphone magnet is good apparently. |
| 22:35.29 | wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: if i put the magnet inside, would that mean i can hotswap the sd card |
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| 22:36.55 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: probably not a good idea to pull a mounted card from the socket. |
| 22:37.33 | wizbit | aye ok |
| 22:37.45 | sixwheeledbeast | but some people do relocate the magnet so the back cover can be removed without unmounting the card. |
| 22:39.02 | sixwheeledbeast | also I use the orange "Digital Nature" theme with a carbon fibre background image. |
| 22:39.03 | wizbit | this phone looks prettier than ios 7 |
| 22:39.39 | wizbit | ace will take a look |
| 22:40.17 | sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: re screenshots I believe ~beasttweaks will help |
| 22:40.25 | sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks |
| 22:40.25 | infobot | hmm... beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts |
| 22:40.38 | wizbit | i wouldnt mind a wallpaper what says maemo on it |
| 22:40.43 | wizbit | or CSSU |
| 22:41.24 | bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: thx :) |
| 22:41.45 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: note the Digital-Nature is a stock theme so no extra rubbish has to be installed, I just made a carbon fibre wallpaper |
| 22:42.11 | sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: np |
| 22:42.42 | bencoh | hm looks like I never installed gst-launch, odd |
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| 22:51.24 | bencoh | wizbit: http://muarf.org/~bencoh/pics/maemeemo-flam3-home.png http://muarf.org/~bencoh/pics/maemeemo-flam3-lock.png |
| 22:53.25 | bencoh | I wonder why the lockscreen background gets wrapped (last left line is wrapped at the right) |
| 22:53.44 | bencoh | (s/line/column since the picture is rotated) |
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| 22:55.17 | wizbit | looks ace :D |
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| 23:08.36 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109890970/Screenshot-20141208-225949.png |
| 23:16.57 | sixwheeledbeast | oh I forgot Ubuntu fonts, not keen on Nokia Sans |
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