| 00:00.36 | bencoh | yeah I know, s/alpine/mutt/ and that's basically what I do (with ssh from the phone) |
| 00:00.56 | totalizator | I have to try building ncmpcpp but ncmpd is more than enough for me |
| 00:01.21 | bencoh | I'm just not sure that's the best way to take full advantage of the n900 |
| 00:01.45 | bencoh | (oh and you mean ncmpc* I guess) |
| 00:02.03 | totalizator | btw I have just uploaded to extras-devel re-alpine 2.03 with password saving feature compiled in |
| 00:02.24 | totalizator | darn, ncmpc, yes |
| 00:02.29 | bencoh | did you ask previous maintainer ? |
| 00:02.32 | steffen | totalizator: It is exactly the way you have it! Im using faster application manager but I get an error... what else can it be? (I can acces the the url from the browser on the phone...) |
| 00:03.04 | totalizator | bencoh: previous maintainer of? |
| 00:03.08 | bencoh | steffen: naming the error might help |
| 00:03.15 | bencoh | totalizator: re-alpine |
| 00:03.25 | bencoh | (or did you just create re-alpine because we had alpine ?) |
| 00:04.15 | steffen | failed to update some or all of the catalogs. check your network connection and/or repository configuration... |
| 00:05.03 | totalizator | there is no re-alpine in the repo and the alpine has no pass save + I don't know about ssl setting |
| 00:05.28 | nox- | ~fap |
| 00:05.28 | infobot | methinks fap is good |
| 00:05.35 | nox- | ehm |
| 00:05.42 | bencoh | infobot: woot ? |
| 00:05.43 | infobot | \o/ |
| 00:05.46 | nox- | someone said fap is broken |
| 00:06.11 | nox- | ~fapman |
| 00:06.12 | infobot | from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam |
| 00:06.14 | totalizator | btw, there is no problem with uploading newer version of a package to extras-deve, even if you are not a maintainer |
| 00:06.18 | nox- | ah there we go |
| 00:06.27 | bencoh | totalizator: then maybe asking current maintainer of alpine and sending over a better alpine version might be a good idea |
| 00:06.34 | bencoh | totalizator: no, there is no problem at all :) |
| 00:06.57 | bencoh | it's just that he might have ideas/something interesting to say |
| 00:07.33 | bencoh | (and it's courtesy too :) |
| 00:08.26 | totalizator | well, it's kinda adventure for me - these are my very first uploads and debs generally |
| 00:08.56 | totalizator | i have learned a lot during the few past days |
| 00:09.01 | bencoh | :-) |
| 00:09.58 | totalizator | and asking current maintainer "hey build me a new version, nao!" could be a bit rude too :3 |
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| 00:12.40 | totalizator | you would not believe what silly hacks I used to build my debs before I discovered autobuilder and the proper way |
| 00:13.35 | steffen | I might have found it! it wants to access .../extras-devel/dists/fermantle/binary/armel/Packages and that does really not exist |
| 00:14.08 | totalizator | fermantle? |
| 00:14.12 | steffen | no... it does exist |
| 00:15.44 | bencoh | totalizator: then you saw the light :) |
| 00:15.44 | steffen | hahaha so it was a spelling mistake... now its working.. Ohh man I look like a fool |
| 00:15.57 | steffen | :) |
| 00:16.11 | bencoh | erm I guess steffen saw the light as well :] |
| 00:16.41 | steffen | what are the must have applications and the must have settings when I start off? I did all this to get speedpatch. What else do you recommend? |
| 00:16.53 | steffen | bencoh: :)) I did! |
| 00:17.19 | totalizator | you are free now! just fly |
| 00:18.07 | steffen | hahaha okay. But you have been flying for a while and maybe know some good places where I can fly to as well to get started ;) |
| 00:22.48 | totalizator | qml-browser, mod rana for maps? |
| 00:24.32 | steffen | is the qml-browser faster then the default? |
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| 00:27.31 | totalizator | imho unfortunately it's not but it renders pages quite correctly where stock browser fails |
| 00:27.56 | totalizator | btw how can I disable flash plugin in qml-browser, anyone? |
| 00:28.39 | totalizator | maybe it's time to say farewell. onece. forever. |
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| 00:31.17 | steffen | daaamn this thing is slow... |
| 00:31.42 | totalizator | u mean n900? ;3 |
| 00:32.36 | steffen | yes |
| 00:37.19 | M4rtinK | try using a Neo FreeRunner :P |
| 00:37.28 | M4rtinK | **that's slow** :) |
| 00:37.29 | totalizator | 256MB ram ftw |
| 00:38.03 | M4rtinK | 400 MHz armv6 (?) & 128 MB RAM :) |
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| 00:41.16 | totalizator | ohwell, I always wanted Neo FreeRunner |
| 00:41.40 | M4rtinK | well it had some nice features |
| 00:41.55 | M4rtinK | but there were quite a few downsides as well |
| 00:41.57 | chem|st | steffen: columbus navigation toolkit if you are into NMEA stuff |
| 00:42.19 | M4rtinK | ...but it could output NMEA just fine :) |
| 00:42.46 | M4rtinK | I'm actually still using two logs I've recorded with the FreeRunner in a bus for modRana testing :) |
| 00:43.41 | M4rtinK | still I think that the FreeRunner started quite a lot of the current open mobile initiatives |
| 00:44.48 | M4rtinK | even our local open (not only) mobile technology started years ago by a FreeRunner group order :) |
| 00:45.05 | M4rtinK | *mobile technology group |
| 00:55.16 | bencoh | qml-browser is still in dev stage afaik |
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| 03:42.29 | jonwil | frails: ping |
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| 04:28.09 | jonwil | frals: ping |
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| 07:53.18 | Maxdamantus | wonders if anyone's successfully done some sort of range-extending GSM antenna modification. |
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| 07:55.02 | Maxdamantus | also, how does network detection actually work? is it completely passive, so cells are continually broadcasting the network(s) they support, then phones just see if their network is in one of those messages? |
| 07:55.20 | Maxdamantus | (so the phone doesn't actually need to send anything to the cell) |
| 07:55.47 | frals | jonwil: sup? |
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| 08:03.44 | Maxdamantus | actually, maybe only UMTS works that way. |
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| 08:19.24 | Sicelo | Maxdamantus: i think gsm doesn't have the phone send anything. however the phone is always receiving from the towers, comparing the quality of the signal, and 'associating' with the tower with best quality signal |
| 08:21.15 | Maxdamantus | I noticed in an area with bad coverage it could show 3G with all bars (whatever that means) after walking around a bit, but it never showed any 2G signal. |
| 08:21.39 | Maxdamantus | and even with that apparent full 3G signal, it wasn't able to send an SMS. |
| 08:21.41 | jonwil | frals: Do you know anything about the N900 cellular modem? |
| 08:22.06 | frals | jonwil: not really, no, sorry |
| 08:22.37 | Maxdamantus | not right away, that is. |
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| 08:23.09 | Maxdamantus | A couple of times I tried requesting something through SMS that has an automatic response |
| 08:23.28 | Maxdamantus | and it would just work randomly while in my pocket. |
| 08:25.59 | jonwil | I know there were documents for the ISI stuff on www.wirelessmodemapi.com but that site is gone :( |
| 08:30.45 | Maxdamantus | Ah, interesting. I think I've found out where the cell is now. |
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| 08:31.42 | Maxdamantus | but won't be there for a few more weeks .. easy to walk towards though. |
| 08:39.06 | jonwil | I tend to keep my phone on 2G most of the time because its meant to be better for the battery life |
| 08:39.32 | jonwil | I only switch to 3G if I need to get more signal or if I am using mobile data and need more speed than 2G can provide |
| 08:40.48 | Maxdamantus | Oh wait, it's not where I thought it was. |
| 08:42.51 | Maxdamantus | The closest cell is apparently about 10 km away. |
| 08:47.47 | bencoh | same here (2G/3G) |
| 08:47.56 | Maxdamantus | and here |
| 08:55.46 | Vajb | im using only 3G |
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| 11:45.34 | BonoNL_ | totalizator: look into TOHKBD the combined price with a Jolla will make it interesting for u. |
| 11:45.55 | BonoNL_ | a great keyboard phone again. |
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| 22:37.55 | sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: your device maybe getting slower from installing extras-devel apps and widgetz |
| 22:39.22 | sixwheeledbeast | adblock, recaller and many other seemingly working apps can make the device slow to a crawl. |
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| 22:44.30 | totalizator | my only widget in use is a calendar and I have uninstalled adblock long time ago, I thinks that my N900 is slow because of where I live |
| 22:45.36 | totalizator | the 21st century |
| 22:45.41 | totalizator | think* |
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| 23:20.20 | chem|st | totalizator: the python desktop (widgets) stuff is eating your device even without the widget active, if it is installed it is started |
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