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| 06:58.23 | Humpelstilzchen | systemd rocks http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html |
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| 10:11.39 | MrPingu | Had something weird yesterday |
| 10:12.18 | MrPingu | while I unplugged the charger it kept blinking and said charging in status-menu |
| 10:13.07 | MrPingu | Then after 2h of using, I power it off. But then it wouldn't boot up until I removed the battery... |
| 10:13.30 | MrPingu | Never had such thing on my daily N900 |
| 10:13.53 | MrPingu | before |
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| 11:34.38 | Oksana | I am angry like a snake... Read-only memory for MyDocs, then, as I do umount; fsck -af; the fsck says something about "truncating file to" because of "cluster chain length". And what does it mean, and how can I be sure that it will not obliterate important files? Off-topic: and that's on top of toothache... |
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| 11:36.29 | Oksana | And how long does it take to do an fsck -af of the MyDocs filesystem? Right now, it's not truncating anymore, but I cannot see any end, either. |
| 11:42.35 | joga | I've had to do that a few times... it shouldn't take very long, probably <15min iirc |
| 11:43.55 | Oksana | Thanks! Mine seems to take a long time, though. Or, I am impatient. Did your bluetooth switch on just because you did umount of the partition? |
| 11:45.09 | joga | uh.. no I don't recall such |
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| 11:45.49 | Oksana | Ah, that's MicroB's quirk. It cannot download file to MyDocs, therefore, it switches to Bluetooth, therefore, Bluetooth switches on :-) |
| 11:46.28 | Oksana | It's so pleasant when software's actions actually make sense :-) |
| 11:48.23 | kerio | joga: don't fsck from the n900 itself |
| 11:48.32 | kerio | unless you have the updated dosfstools |
| 11:48.48 | joga | dunno what I had but it's been working anyway |
| 11:48.48 | Oksana | Why not? |
| 11:49.14 | Oksana | And where are the updated dosfstools? |
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| 11:50.27 | Oksana | Does CSSU have updated dosfstools? And what's the bug with non-updated dosfstools? |
| 11:53.11 | Oksana | kerio... I do hope that I will jump through the hoops without encountering any problems, but I am still curious about their possible appearance. |
| 11:53.36 | kerio | Oksana: hell, i'd even skip the fsck from the n900 side entirely |
| 11:53.43 | kerio | and run it from a computer |
| 11:54.54 | hurrian | aw man, fsck on the N900 |
| 11:55.00 | Oksana | Hmm... Theoretically, I could do it through WiFi... WiFi works... But how, exactly, do I tell a Windows-or-Linux computer to check that partition on remote device? |
| 11:55.02 | hurrian | you're gonna have a bad time |
| 11:55.12 | Oksana | Why a bad time? |
| 11:55.25 | Oksana | Slow? |
| 11:55.48 | hurrian | yeah - terrible performance from the CPU, RAM and storage adds up |
| 11:56.11 | hurrian | it's way better to export the disk using backupmenu loaded from u-boot and fsck under gparted etc. |
| 11:56.23 | Oksana | How slow? I do not have microUSB port, so unless you know a way to check filesystem of a partition through WiFi... |
| 11:57.12 | Oksana | Bluetooth and cellular and FM are even less suited for the purpose than WiFi, I think. |
| 11:57.44 | hurrian | oh, I'm sorry |
| 11:58.08 | hurrian | in that case, use a fast microSD card as swap space, unmount MyDocs, fsck and hope for the best |
| 11:58.44 | bencoh | or boot from rescueOS (not sure it has dosfstools though) |
| 12:00.48 | Oksana | How long would it take, though? An hour? Four hours? I can take it. Shut down all radio, to save energy, and wait. |
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| 12:05.19 | Oksana | Closed all windows besides the XTerm with fsck -af, and waiting. |
| 12:06.14 | Oksana | Can fsck -af be interrupted in the middle of its run? And will the next run of fsck -af be faster-shorter for it? |
| 12:06.46 | Oksana | Just asking because battery is not infinite. |
| 12:07.05 | bencoh | hmm, why the -f ? |
| 12:07.17 | bencoh | are you sure it's what you want ? |
| 12:07.32 | bencoh | (hint: it's not "force" in fsck.msdos) |
| 12:14.56 | Oksana | bencoh: Just following the example in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50556 |
| 12:15.32 | bencoh | still not sure that's what you want, check the manpage |
| 12:15.47 | bencoh | (I have never tried it either, so ... I dunno) |
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| 12:27.13 | Oksana | So, what are your bets, what will reach its end first: fsck -af, or battery? The battery was fully charged, but, there was some WiFi and some Bluetooth switched on for some time. After first half-hour of fsck, all went into offline, the only window open is XTerm running the fsck. |
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| 12:40.34 | Oksana | Is it safe for the filesystem to do Ctrl+C to the fsck -af ? |
| 12:42.46 | bencoh | do you know if it's writing or just reading ? |
| 12:43.02 | bencoh | (iostat, strace, anything) |
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| 13:13.06 | crculver | Is there a way on Fremantle to run a service in /etc/event.d as user and not root? |
| 13:13.20 | crculver | I know that functionality was added to Upstart at some point, but it's not clear if the version of Upstart on the N900 allows that. |
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| 16:28.26 | spoofy | Hello guys ;) |
| 16:28.55 | spoofy | First of all I would like to ask - from where I can download scratchbox image? |
| 16:29.36 | Sicelo | see links on /topic |
| 16:33.45 | spoofy | Sicelo: I'm talking about scratchbox for maemo ;) Can't find mirror for virtual machine image... |
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| 17:08.45 | crculver | The links in the /topic lead to wiki.maemo.org, which is a maze of broken links and out-of-date advice. |
| 17:09.38 | pigeons | well that's sort of the state of maemo |
| 17:12.07 | crculver | I just want to find out what SDK I should install from where, so that if most package maintainers have abandoned Maemo, I can at least package my own upgrades. |
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| 17:34.36 | RiD | Hey, a curious (and probably somewhat dumb) question.. |
| 17:34.53 | RiD | when you type alsamixer -c0 in x-terminal and set the headphone volume to 100, it still appears "dB -5.40" |
| 17:35.18 | RiD | Does this means we can still squeeze out 5.40dB from it, and if so, how? |
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| 18:21.28 | spoofy | crculver: same here |
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| 20:14.26 | sixwheeledbeast | ~sdk |
| 20:14.27 | infobot | methinks sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" |
| 20:14.59 | sixwheeledbeast | ~sb |
| 20:14.59 | infobot | [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
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