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| 01:20.56 | Oksana | How difficult would it be for maemo to use something else instead of pulseaudio? alsa or something? |
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| 11:52.40 | sixwheeledbeast1 | Oksana: I would have thought this would have been considered before trying to RE. |
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| 17:39.21 | sec | I tried compiling on the device. I don't even have ./configure working after installing build-essential ._. |
| 17:41.02 | bencoh | I know you dont like scratchbox (I dont really like it either) but maybe you should considere using it |
| 17:41.17 | bencoh | -e |
| 17:41.25 | sec | Hm, doing that now |
| 17:41.49 | bencoh | plus you'd get nice&neat debian packages ;) |
| 17:42.38 | sec | Is there a VM I can download? |
| 17:44.18 | bencoh | I think so |
| 17:44.31 | bencoh | ~sb |
| 17:44.31 | infobot | rumour has it, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 17:44.48 | sec | Ty! |
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| 18:14.45 | ecc3g | ~scratchbox |
| 18:14.45 | infobot | scratchbox is, like, a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 18:14.54 | ecc3g | ah. |
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| 18:26.26 | stryngs | no need for scratchbox |
| 18:26.29 | stryngs | just an fyi |
| 18:26.38 | stryngs | sec: u can easily build locally |
| 18:27.05 | sec | stryngs, how so? |
| 18:27.12 | sec | Tell me your secrets |
| 18:27.13 | stryngs | ./configure && make? |
| 18:27.23 | sec | ./configure doesn't exist apparently |
| 18:27.29 | stryngs | what are u trying to compile? |
| 18:27.31 | stryngs | what src |
| 18:27.33 | sec | irssi |
| 18:28.01 | stryngs | ah |
| 18:28.04 | stryngs | i always fail with that |
| 18:28.07 | sec | :/ |
| 18:28.10 | stryngs | i tried to get perl support on it |
| 18:28.17 | sec | I was trying without perl support |
| 18:28.25 | stryngs | should work fine then, should |
| 18:28.26 | sec | IF ./configure would work |
| 18:28.30 | stryngs | what error are u getting? |
| 18:28.40 | bencoh | dont we have irssi in extras already ? |
| 18:28.41 | sec | ./configure: no such file or directory |
| 18:28.57 | sec | bencoh: I was trying to see if compiling natively works or not |
| 18:29.04 | sec | I failed at step 1 |
| 18:29.08 | bencoh | sec: oh btw, I have a half-baked weechat |
| 18:29.16 | sec | D: give it to me |
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| 18:29.31 | bencoh | packaging failed because of some stuff missing for doc generation |
| 18:29.33 | sec | :< |
| 18:29.49 | sec | stryngs: I am pulling sources from git, so |
| 18:30.04 | sec | There's a configure.ac file also in there, it *should* work |
| 18:30.10 | stryngs | well ./ is indicitave of a script |
| 18:30.13 | bencoh | sec: I could still send you the whole directory if you want |
| 18:30.18 | bencoh | sources, binaries, and all |
| 18:30.20 | stryngs | so ./configure calls the file configure =) |
| 18:30.36 | stryngs | so if u have no file or directory, then perhaps u have to automake it |
| 18:30.37 | sec | That'd be awesome bencoh |
| 18:30.53 | bencoh | btw I patched mupdf a bit and updated to 1.6 |
| 18:31.11 | sec | Honestly, I just want any kind of dev environment up so I can compile as I wish |
| 18:31.18 | bencoh | I havent uploaded to extra-devel because I'm afraid recent libmupdf-dev would break compat with floatboat |
| 18:31.24 | stryngs | sec: Im grabbing irssi |
| 18:31.29 | stryngs | I will tell u your error in a moment |
| 18:31.30 | sec | Thanks <3 |
| 18:31.39 | stryngs | It's probably not ./confiugre |
| 18:31.44 | stryngs | just a heads up |
| 18:31.55 | sec | Should be :/ worked last I tried on debian |
| 18:32.07 | sec | ~sdk |
| 18:32.07 | infobot | somebody said sdk was http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" |
| 18:32.22 | bencoh | mupdf is now able to get focus (keyboard/fullscreen events), use zoom(sound) keys |
| 18:32.32 | bencoh | and recent versions have mouse/touchscreen "scroll" support |
| 18:32.52 | bencoh | meaning you can zoom using volume keys and move around/change page with touchscreen |
| 18:33.04 | sec | D: |
| 18:33.27 | bencoh | I should get in touch with current maintainer but feel free to ask for a .deb meanwhile |
| 18:34.05 | bencoh | (it seems way more usable than stock pdfreader to me) |
| 18:34.14 | stryngs | Nokia-N900:~/irssi-0.8.17# ./configure |
| 18:34.14 | stryngs | checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/ginstall -c |
| 18:34.14 | stryngs | checking whether build environment is sane... yes |
| 18:34.14 | stryngs | checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /usr/bin/gmkdir -p |
| 18:34.16 | stryngs | checking for gawk... gawk |
| 18:34.19 | stryngs | works fine sec |
| 18:34.20 | sec | -.- |
| 18:34.26 | sec | What am I missing then |
| 18:34.32 | stryngs | the file? |
| 18:34.34 | sec | build-essential should do it right? |
| 18:34.39 | stryngs | cnfigure is a file |
| 18:34.42 | stryngs | not a command |
| 18:34.44 | sec | configure.ac? |
| 18:34.45 | bencoh | sec: did you fetch from git ? |
| 18:34.49 | sec | Yes bencoh |
| 18:34.50 | stryngs | no |
| 18:34.51 | stryngs | configure |
| 18:34.57 | bencoh | sec: get a release tarball |
| 18:35.02 | stryngs | nod |
| 18:35.03 | bencoh | or go through autotools hell |
| 18:35.10 | bencoh | but I wouldnt try that on native :) |
| 18:35.19 | bencoh | (not on old maemo at least) |
| 18:35.27 | sec | Er, stryngs is the file called configure.ac or configure? |
| 18:35.34 | stryngs | Building with Perl support ....... : NO! - Error linking with perl libraries: -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/perl/5.8/CORE -lperl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl |
| 18:35.40 | stryngs | configure |
| 18:35.45 | bencoh | sec: autoconf generates configure from configure.ac |
| 18:35.47 | stryngs | I hate perl on the n900 |
| 18:35.49 | sec | ._. |
| 18:35.51 | stryngs | nods at bencoh |
| 18:35.54 | bencoh | just fetch a tarball release |
| 18:35.56 | sec | Oh no wonder |
| 18:37.19 | sec | These are the only repos you need usually right - |
| 18:37.26 | sec | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-free & |
| 18:37.27 | sec | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free non-free |
| 18:37.33 | sec | + their deb-src |
| 18:43.11 | sec | Err, tarball worked ._. |
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| 18:43.21 | sec | Ok, something's wrong with their latest git then |
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| 18:47.05 | bencoh | sec: it's not wrong, you're just missing some autotools knowledge to use it |
| 18:47.06 | bencoh | :) |
| 18:47.28 | sec | Nope, configure.ac in tarball too |
| 18:48.58 | bencoh | configure.ac is not used in a tarball release |
| 18:49.13 | sec | It is :< |
| 18:49.16 | sec | I just downloaded it |
| 18:49.41 | bencoh | it is present |
| 18:49.46 | bencoh | but not used |
| 18:49.48 | sec | Oh |
| 18:50.01 | sec | Um, I am missing glib |
| 18:50.31 | Sicelo | stryngs: irssi on forums isn't good enough for you? |
| 18:51.05 | sec | Sicelo: blame me, I am using yours, but I would like to get a build environment up, and irssi seems to a be a decent middle ground |
| 18:51.06 | Sicelo | already has perl ( and i'm sure *you* were one of the first to know) |
| 18:51.12 | Sicelo | ah :) |
| 18:51.13 | Sicelo | ok |
| 18:51.14 | sec | :P |
| 18:51.41 | sec | ~glib |
| 18:51.41 | infobot | The GLib library of C routines. URL: http://www.gtk.org/ |
| 18:51.48 | sec | Bad infobot |
| 18:51.54 | Sicelo | sec: maybe you can then upload to repos (which i was lazy to do) |
| 18:52.10 | sec | I need to get it working first ;) |
| 18:52.16 | bencoh | sec: you should see wiki about sb |
| 18:52.39 | bencoh | there is a nice page on how to set it up |
| 18:53.02 | sec | Yes I will come to that as well! |
| 18:53.33 | sec | Depending on how many days compiling takes on this xD |
| 18:54.41 | stryngs | I was Sicelo =) |
| 18:54.45 | stryngs | I just like to compile stuff myself |
| 18:55.22 | stryngs | And you should definately upload to the repos Sicelo |
| 18:55.29 | stryngs | You did the work =) |
| 18:55.38 | sec | stryngs++ |
| 18:57.01 | sec | Building with Perl support ....... : NO! :( |
| 18:57.09 | sec | But progress! |
| 19:00.35 | sec | checking for working Perl support... ok |
| 19:00.39 | sec | \o/ |
| 19:01.33 | sec | hands everyone a beer |
| 19:01.57 | stryngs | wtf |
| 19:01.59 | stryngs | WHAT did u do sec? |
| 19:02.03 | sec | Magic |
| 19:02.07 | stryngs | plz tell? |
| 19:02.11 | stryngs | Considering u did it natively |
| 19:02.25 | sec | apt-get install libperl-dev |
| 19:02.26 | sec | :P |
| 19:03.42 | stryngs | E: Couldn't find package libperl-dev |
| 19:03.50 | stryngs | what repo from? |
| 19:04.03 | sec | http://repository.maemo.org/ |
| 19:04.04 | sec | SDK |
| 19:04.17 | stryngs | hmm |
| 19:04.21 | sec | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-free deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free non-free deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free |
| 19:04.23 | stryngs | and it doesnt bitch about /scratchbox |
| 19:04.24 | stryngs | interesting |
| 19:04.28 | stryngs | thanks dude |
| 19:04.36 | stryngs | gunna dpkg -x it and check it out |
| 19:04.47 | sec | Wouldn't get here if you didn't help earlier xD |
| 19:04.55 | sec | I had assumed it was broken somewhere :P |
| 19:05.11 | stryngs | i try to avoid SDK stuff if possible |
| 19:05.13 | sec | I'll get autotools working too so I can get git versions compiled |
| 19:05.14 | stryngs | because of sb dependencies for those debs |
| 19:05.17 | stryngs | =) |
| 19:05.54 | bencoh | not sure this is completely "safe" for a daily phone system |
| 19:06.08 | sec | It's not a daily phone :P |
| 19:06.18 | bencoh | I expect your deps to break at some point but I dunno |
| 19:06.26 | bencoh | haha |
| 19:06.27 | stryngs | hmm, its not there sec |
| 19:06.29 | stryngs | wtf |
| 19:06.36 | sec | Erm, I just installed it ._. |
| 19:06.44 | stryngs | yeah but im not apt-get |
| 19:06.47 | sec | Get:1 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free libperl-dev 5.8.3-3osso13+0m5 [567kB] |
| 19:06.49 | stryngs | im going to the repo via url =) |
| 19:07.12 | stryngs | libpaper/ 18-May-2010 11:55 - |
| 19:07.15 | stryngs | libpcap/ 18-May-2010 11:55 - |
| 19:07.18 | stryngs | libpciaccess/ 18-May-2010 11:55 - |
| 19:07.21 | stryngs | libpng3/ 18-May-2010 11:55 - |
| 19:07.24 | stryngs | libpthread-stubs/ 18-May-2010 11:55 - |
| 19:07.25 | sec | Lol |
| 19:07.27 | stryngs | libptypes/ ... |
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| 19:09.29 | stryngs | AHAH |
| 19:09.34 | salamisami | Hi |
| 19:09.35 | stryngs | its not in right location! |
| 19:09.36 | stryngs | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/p/perl/ |
| 19:09.38 | stryngs | woo |
| 19:09.59 | salamisami | My n900 cameria isn't working |
| 19:10.09 | salamisami | Is there a way to see if it is a problem with hardware or software? |
| 19:10.33 | salamisami | I guess I could flash it but it's such a drag |
| 19:10.56 | stryngs | what are symptoms salamisami ? |
| 19:11.33 | salamisami | I launch the camera app and open the lens cover but it still thinks its on |
| 19:11.46 | stryngs | close camera app, open lens cover |
| 19:11.48 | stryngs | what happens |
| 19:11.58 | salamisami | "open the lens cover", the camera application says |
| 19:12.08 | salamisami | nothing happens |
| 19:12.14 | stryngs | sensor broke |
| 19:12.23 | stryngs | open the back |
| 19:12.32 | stryngs | should be a little mechanical sensor |
| 19:12.42 | stryngs | at least i think thats how it works |
| 19:12.47 | salamisami | You mean disassemble my n900? |
| 19:12.48 | sec | Try lshal |
| 19:12.55 | stryngs | no, take the back piece off |
| 19:12.58 | sec | and see if it detects the cover opening |
| 19:12.58 | stryngs | look at it |
| 19:13.10 | stryngs | dont be afraid to take it apart |
| 19:13.15 | stryngs | ive gutted mine for fun before =) |
| 19:13.18 | stryngs | sec, yer da man =) |
| 19:13.52 | stryngs | NICE sec |
| 19:13.56 | stryngs | no /sb |
| 19:13.58 | stryngs | looks sane |
| 19:14.06 | stryngs | no postinst or preinst nonsense |
| 19:14.10 | stryngs | normal compiled deb |
| 19:14.13 | stryngs | cheers |
| 19:14.25 | sec | :P |
| 19:14.31 | sec | salamisami: lshal -m |
| 19:14.41 | sec | and open and close lense cover to see if it's detected |
| 19:15.45 | stryngs | U could bang on it a bit =) |
| 19:16.46 | salamisami | Ok I will try it soon |
| 19:16.50 | salamisami | Device is updating atm |
| 19:16.55 | salamisami | Thank you for your time |
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| 19:20.42 | Sicelo | sec: you building on device? |
| 19:20.50 | sec | Yes |
| 19:21.07 | sec | http://i.imgur.com/4SUUxvO.png |
| 19:21.44 | salamisami | Nope nothing happens |
| 19:22.01 | salamisami | lshal is monitoring while i open the lens cover and no feedback |
| 19:22.12 | sec | It's not detecting your lense cover being opened then |
| 19:22.35 | salamisami | That would seem to be the case |
| 19:22.42 | sec | Looks like this |
| 19:22.43 | sec | 00:52:26.748: platform_cam_shutter property button.state.value = true |
| 19:22.43 | sec | 00:52:26.796: platform_cam_shutter condition ButtonPressed = cover |
| 19:22.52 | salamisami | yep, not seeing that |
| 19:23.01 | salamisami | So I guess the sensor is broken then |
| 19:23.09 | salamisami | Is it possible to bypass the sensor somehow? |
| 19:23.19 | sec | I'd guess so too, try putting a magnet against the back |
| 19:23.31 | sec | Maybe it's the magnet problems |
| 19:23.37 | stryngs | ^ |
| 19:23.38 | stryngs | Hence |
| 19:23.41 | stryngs | OPEN the back =) |
| 19:23.42 | sec | lshal -m and magnet that shit |
| 19:23.43 | stryngs | and look at it |
| 19:23.56 | Sicelo | i think magnet is for just the back cover. cam shutter should be a light sensor |
| 19:24.09 | sec | Sicelo: mine reacts to a magnet |
| 19:24.23 | Sicelo | hmm, ok |
| 19:24.27 | sec | I found out when I lost mine and needed to get the SD card working |
| 19:24.55 | Sicelo | yes, of course sd card depends on magnet on the cover .. |
| 19:25.16 | sec | Yep, and lshal started spewing messages about the shutter too |
| 19:25.21 | Sicelo | i see |
| 19:26.01 | salamisami | magnet's giving readings |
| 19:26.16 | salamisami | yep its the exact lines you posted |
| 19:26.20 | sec | ;) |
| 19:26.27 | sec | You're missing a magnet my friend |
| 19:26.35 | salamisami | uhhuh |
| 19:26.36 | stryngs | prolly fell off |
| 19:26.39 | stryngs | inside the case |
| 19:26.42 | stryngs | looks like an s |
| 19:26.46 | salamisami | Is there a way to fix it without paying for things? |
| 19:26.46 | stryngs | open it carefully |
| 19:26.48 | stryngs | glue |
| 19:27.03 | stryngs | open it carefully and look for it, its about 1/4 inch long and resembles an s |
| 19:27.08 | sec | You just need to glue a tiny magnet under the support thingy at the back |
| 19:27.14 | Sicelo | salamisami: no. lol. you pay at least in investment of time ;) |
| 19:28.16 | salamisami | stryng, the cam's been broken for a long while now, its not behind the cover anymore if it ever was |
| 19:28.42 | salamisami | or well, the camera hasnt been broken but disabled |
| 19:28.56 | sec | Well atleast you know what's wrong now :P |
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| 19:29.06 | sec | My magnet fell off the damn day I got my device -.- |
| 19:29.25 | sec | Sadly, I didn't know it made half the shit in the back work so I managed to lose it easily |
| 19:30.54 | sec | bencoh: I bought me a Jolla but this is still my go to companion device (yes grab your pitchforks) |
| 19:31.42 | salamisami | I just bought a 64 gb N9 |
| 19:32.11 | salamisami | unfortunately its got small scratches and wear |
| 19:32.33 | sec | My N900 is nearly mint :D |
| 19:32.40 | sec | I took good care of it |
| 19:32.45 | salamisami | so now i'm in an auction for one in almost pristine condition but defective :P |
| 19:32.46 | sec | Except the damn magnet |
| 19:33.00 | salamisami | then I'll just swap the mobos and ta-dah |
| 19:33.14 | sec | I want one of those bigger covers for mine so I can put two batteries together |
| 19:34.02 | salamisami | Woulda gotten a Jolla but the hardware and workmanship just doesn't compare |
| 19:34.09 | salamisami | also its xboxhuge |
| 19:34.20 | sec | I kinda like it actually |
| 19:35.43 | salamisami | Yeah but N9's got great audio and a neat camera, plus its perfect size for me |
| 19:35.59 | sec | Well yes, the Jolla is a little too big for me too |
| 19:36.22 | sec | Would be perfect if it were ~1.5 cms smaller both sides |
| 19:36.30 | salamisami | i admire the tohkbd crews efforts but just imagine it with that |
| 19:36.36 | sec | But I <3 the OS |
| 19:37.19 | salamisami | Would be neat if you could install a working sailfish on an android device with a hardware kb |
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| 19:45.23 | sec | Well for what I paid for mine (~175 Euros), it's perfect! |
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| 19:47.05 | salamisami | lYou bought it second hand, yes? |
| 19:47.31 | sec | Nope, brand new unpacked, from someone who never bothered to open it xD |
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| 19:48.26 | salamisami | I'll be sure to install Ubiboot and try the Sailfish image on N9 though |
| 19:49.04 | sec | brb |
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| 20:00.16 | salamisami | How active is the Sailfish OS community by the way? |
| 20:00.22 | salamisami | Maemo was pretty active back in the day |
| 20:00.36 | salamisami | Judging from the sparsity of apps its not quite on the same level |
| 20:00.49 | salamisami | Hopefully with improvements to the system the communtiy will grow |
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| 20:02.55 | sec | Pretty active |
| 20:03.01 | sec | #sailfishos |
| 20:03.07 | sec | #jollamobile |
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| 20:11.27 | sec | bencoh: I compiled weechat :) |
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| 20:14.29 | salamisami | I wonder if the TOHKBD will make devs on Jolla more active |
| 20:15.13 | sec | Well they're outselling everything they crowd fund, they must be doing something right :P |
| 20:15.26 | sec | Their tablet is funded 300% now |
| 20:16.34 | salamisami | Well that's true, but you have to consider that their initial goal was not extremely high |
| 20:16.43 | M4rtinK | salamisami: well I see people wanting real Linux keyboard smartphones all the time |
| 20:16.48 | M4rtinK | so hopefully yes |
| 20:16.50 | salamisami | Anyway I was referring to community devs, not the Jolla company guys |
| 20:17.15 | sec | Yes there are plenty salamisami |
| 20:17.20 | M4rtinK | BTW, a lot of people still use the N900 as their main device as that is still pretty much only such thing in existence |
| 20:17.37 | sec | M4rtinK++ |
| 20:17.53 | sec | And probably the only one that will be for a long long time |
| 20:17.56 | M4rtinK | BTW, it is not only coding and CLI |
| 20:18.10 | M4rtinK | think about SMS,IM,Emails |
| 20:18.37 | M4rtinK | even gaming - you don't want to use a console emulator with touchscreen :) |
| 20:18.49 | stryngs | i use my n900 for ninja stuff =) |
| 20:18.58 | stryngs | it's a devious device if wanted =) |
| 20:21.34 | bencoh | sec: kewl :) |
| 20:21.52 | sec | [100%] Built target weechat |
| 20:22.01 | sec | :D/-\ :D<-/ |
| 20:22.06 | stryngs | Building with Perl support ....... : static (in irssi binary) |
| 20:22.07 | stryngs | Perl library directory ........... : (site default - /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.3) |
| 20:22.10 | stryngs | hugs sec |
| 20:22.15 | stryngs | v nice! =) |
| 20:22.29 | bencoh | grabs his pitchfork ---[== |
| 20:22.33 | sec | :P |
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| 20:23.32 | sec | WeeChat 1.0.1 [compiled on Nov 21 2014 20:12:24] |
| 20:23.34 | sec | :D |
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| 20:24.45 | bencoh | meh, agressive linux disk caching .... my maemo/sb vm is all swapped out |
| 20:24.45 | sec | is on a spree |
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| 20:27.20 | sec | giggles |
| 20:27.49 | sec | CTCP version me :3 |
| 20:27.55 | bencoh | 21:27 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from sec: WeeChat 1.0.1 (Nov 21 2014) |
| 20:28.01 | bencoh | (done already ;p) |
| 20:28.04 | sec | xD |
| 20:28.26 | bencoh | did you get proper gnutls support ? |
| 20:28.30 | sec | Yep |
| 20:28.33 | bencoh | hmm |
| 20:28.36 | sec | Hold on, I'll jump on SSL |
| 20:32.16 | bencoh | looks like it didnt go well :> |
| 20:32.39 | Sicelo | haha |
| 20:32.55 | bencoh | (I had trouble building weechat with maemo gnutls, so ... :]) |
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| 20:34.06 | Sicelo | i see. that sucks then. what is the problem? |
| 20:36.08 | bencoh | I dont remember precisely .... rebuilding :) |
| 20:38.24 | bencoh | ooh, right, libtool stuff regarding a broken .la file |
| 20:38.26 | bencoh | in gnutls |
| 20:38.35 | bencoh | which leads to /scratchbox/tools/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libgpg-error.la: No such file or directory |
| 20:38.38 | bencoh | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libgpg-error.la' is not a valid libtool archive |
| 20:38.47 | stryngs | what the hell is a garbage collector for irssi? |
| 20:38.58 | bencoh | because some crazy guy hardcoded .la files in libgnutls.la |
| 20:39.00 | bencoh | dependency_libs=' -L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libtasn1.la -L/scratchbox/devkits/apt-https/lib /usr/lib/libgpg-error.la -lz /usr/lib/libgcrypt.la -lgpg-error' |
| 20:39.20 | bencoh | which means I cant build against gnutls without mangling or repackaging it |
| 20:40.03 | bencoh | or repackaging libgpg-error.la with libtool files, but I think we want to avoid those in maemo |
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| 20:47.23 | sec | Oh god that was horrid |
| 20:47.37 | sec | Why does weechat have such an innane way of validating certs |
| 20:47.40 | bencoh | haha |
| 20:47.56 | bencoh | so did you build against openssl or gnutls ? |
| 20:48.05 | bencoh | (ldd weechat maybe ?) |
| 20:48.06 | stryngs | hmm |
| 20:48.08 | sec | openssl |
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| 20:48.12 | stryngs | sec did u enable garbage-collection for irssi? |
| 20:48.16 | bencoh | that's what I thought |
| 20:48.26 | sec | No gnutls libraries in maemo :P |
| 20:48.32 | sec | stryngs: nope |
| 20:48.38 | stryngs | any idea what it does? |
| 20:48.44 | bencoh | sec: actually we have gnutls but .la in libgnutls-dev is kinda broken |
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| 20:48.57 | stryngs | heh, fails to build |
| 20:48.59 | bencoh | which makes it pretty much unusable for automated builds |
| 20:50.13 | sec | hm |
| 20:52.55 | sec | These libraries are sooo old half of the scripts are not working |
| 20:53.02 | sec | So much for using weechat |
| 20:53.34 | bencoh | haha |
| 20:53.36 | stryngs | sec, what does it require? |
| 20:53.55 | sec | stryngs: doesn't require anything, just full of bugs gah |
| 20:54.20 | sec | Python 2.5 and Perl from WW2 |
| 20:54.26 | stryngs | haha |
| 20:54.28 | bencoh | hmm, I dont see any openssl codepath in weechat, dunno how yours can work without gnutls |
| 20:54.43 | sec | :D |
| 20:54.46 | bencoh | sec: grep -i gnutls config.h ? |
| 20:55.40 | sec | config.h from? |
| 20:55.49 | bencoh | weechat source/build tree |
| 20:55.52 | bencoh | (what else ? :p) |
| 20:55.57 | sec | Sec |
| 20:57.11 | sec | bencoh: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e1EjaPVr |
| 20:57.34 | bencoh | that's gnutls ... and it's not config.h |
| 20:57.44 | sec | No config.h in source tree |
| 20:57.52 | bencoh | woot ? |
| 20:57.54 | sec | I did it on the entire tree |
| 20:57.58 | bencoh | next to config.log |
| 20:58.13 | bencoh | did you build in-tree or in a separate build/ ? |
| 20:58.32 | sec | separate |
| 20:58.46 | bencoh | oh, then please check in build/ :) |
| 20:58.52 | sec | Ah, it's there xD |
| 20:59.22 | sec | topkek |
| 20:59.26 | sec | N900:build/ > grep -i gnutls config.h |
| 20:59.28 | sec | N900:build/ > |
| 20:59.31 | sec | lel |
| 20:59.36 | bencoh | ahem, okay |
| 20:59.42 | bencoh | I have no idea how this can work |
| 20:59.46 | sec | xD |
| 20:59.49 | sec | Magic |
| 20:59.55 | bencoh | yeah, definitely |
| 21:00.24 | bencoh | seriously now, wtf |
| 21:00.37 | bencoh | it doesnt use libgsoup |
| 21:00.43 | bencoh | or some other network wrapper |
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| 21:01.57 | bencoh | sec: do you have anything in config.log ? |
| 21:02.57 | bencoh | hmm, and ... ldd weechat |
| 21:04.14 | stryngs | Oh say can you see... By the dawns early light............ |
| 21:05.01 | sec | config.log is empty |
| 21:05.42 | sec | bencoh: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fiQCFjYR |
| 21:05.57 | bencoh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.58 | bencoh | hmm |
| 21:05.59 | sec | I swear.. idk how this happened |
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| 21:07.24 | stryngs | sec: try this: echo hello | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 21:07.25 | stryngs | =) |
| 21:07.29 | stryngs | pastebin sucks |
| 21:08.24 | bencoh | :) |
| 21:08.24 | sec | zsh: command not found: nc |
| 21:08.27 | sec | Oh god |
| 21:08.31 | bencoh | haha |
| 21:08.31 | sec | facepalms |
| 21:08.55 | sec | At this rate I might just install debian |
| 21:09.07 | bencoh | there is nc extras |
| 21:09.18 | bencoh | or maybe it's just busybox, not sure |
| 21:09.40 | stryngs | netcat_1.10-32osso2_armel.deb |
| 21:09.41 | sec | nvm, I have ncat from nmap :P |
| 21:09.54 | sec | I confuse myself sometimes |
| 21:10.29 | stryngs | zsh? |
| 21:10.30 | stryngs | whoa |
| 21:10.37 | stryngs | I think you've been infected |
| 21:10.43 | sec | Lol |
| 21:10.47 | stryngs | should say bash: command not found: nc |
| 21:11.06 | sec | I am just used to zsh on all my systems |
| 21:11.29 | stryngs | interesting, i've only used sh and bash =) |
| 21:11.42 | stryngs | proud to have the most recent version of bash on my n900 too =) full ypatched! |
| 21:11.51 | sec | zsh has cool autocompletion out of the box |
| 21:12.05 | stryngs | ii bash 4.3-patch-30 The GNU Bourne Again SHell branch 4.x, tuned for maemo |
| 21:12.27 | sec | :P |
| 21:13.02 | stryngs | irssi still building, |
| 21:13.05 | stryngs | faster slave! |
| 21:13.08 | stryngs | cracks the whip |
| 21:13.25 | sec | xD |
| 21:13.29 | sec | It takes some time |
| 21:13.55 | sec | Surprisingly weechat was faste |
| 21:18.07 | stryngs | 1150mHz! |
| 21:21.10 | stryngs | hmm, shared or static perl library for irssi |
| 21:21.11 | stryngs | thoghts? |
| 21:21.57 | sec | static should be fine |
| 21:22.29 | stryngs | itll make a bigger binary though |
| 21:23.19 | stryngs | well, since i rolled with static, ill make that first, then compare against shared =) |
| 21:23.23 | stryngs | why not |
| 21:23.23 | bencoh | if you want to package it, dynamic |
| 21:23.41 | stryngs | so u would go with shared then bencoh? |
| 21:23.56 | bencoh | yup |
| 21:24.17 | bencoh | especially considering that we dont have much memory |
| 21:24.40 | bencoh | you dont want to load perl lib twice if two programs use it |
| 21:25.34 | stryngs | makes sense |
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| 21:28.24 | stryngs | hmm: |
| 21:28.25 | stryngs | Building with Perl support ....... : static (in irssi binary) |
| 21:28.27 | stryngs | Perl library directory ........... : /usr/lib/perl/5.8 - NOTE: This was automatically set to the same directory you gave with --prefix. If you want the perl libraries to install to their 'correct' |
| 21:28.30 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.32 | stryngs | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.34 | stryngs | --enable-shared=perl? |
| 21:29.13 | stryngs | same response |
| 21:29.25 | stryngs | i wonder how to tell it to build with perl support of shared |
| 21:31.36 | sec | https://github.com/irssi/irssi/blob/master/INSTALL |
| 21:31.42 | sec | --with-perl=[yes|no|module] |
| 21:31.53 | stryngs | #define HAVE_STATIC_PERL 1 |
| 21:32.01 | stryngs | how do u make it shared perl sec? |
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