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| 09:37.35 | Vajb | is it possible to make open media player pause when i drop volume to zero? |
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| 09:53.14 | Humpelstilzchen | probably |
| 09:53.31 | Humpelstilzchen | there is a software thats pausing the player on jack unplug |
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| 10:55.20 | Vajb | it's default on openmediaplayer. no need for extra plugin anymore |
| 10:55.38 | Vajb | or configurable rather... |
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| 11:28.32 | vakkov | is maemo.merlin1991.at still working |
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| 11:34.38 | kolp | vakkov: works for me |
| 11:35.36 | Pali | http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg81419.html |
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| 12:59.40 | dreamer | heh, first time I'm running in to: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6295 |
| 12:59.41 | povbot | 04Bug 6295: Songs on double albums are played in wrong order ("disc number" field in ID3) |
| 13:00.02 | dreamer | think I'll just remove disk 2 so I can listen in sequence ;) |
| 13:00.23 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: What scenario would you need to set volume to zero? |
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| 13:02.49 | sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: yes, I have to save albums as 'In Your Honour [Disc 1]' 'In Your Honour [Disc 2]' even though the disc number is correct on the metadata |
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| 13:04.50 | sixwheeledbeast | Alternatively If you still wish to keep the album together re-number the tracks, So ... |
| 13:05.25 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: im listening to music while working and keeping my phone in pocket. When somebody wants to talk to me i just drop volume to zero. So it would be handy if player pauses when that happens |
| 13:06.13 | sixwheeledbeast | '101 - In Your Honour.mp3', '201 - Still.mp3', '102 - No Way Back.mp3' ... etc etc |
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| 13:07.15 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Is this because the phone is locked and you can use the volume rocker? |
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| 13:07.51 | Vajb | yeah i can use that quickly without removing my phone from pocket |
| 13:08.21 | Vajb | also i modified my earplugs a bit so they r not quick enough to remove either |
| 13:08.45 | Vajb | because i need them to block external noise (i work at the factory) |
| 13:09.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: well my quick solution/suggestion for that is to set camera button as a pause/resume key. |
| 13:09.46 | Vajb | actually a great idea! Can i set that from player settings or i need some plugin? |
| 13:10.36 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Or if you use the Nokia supplied headset and CSSU Testing the button will pause MAFW via OMP. |
| 13:10.38 | zGrr | Will it work with Panucci? |
| 13:11.04 | sixwheeledbeast | zGrr: if you can control that via D-Bus yes |
| 13:11.32 | Vajb | i use cssu testing but have buttonless headset |
| 13:11.33 | Pali | cssu enable using headset button even if voice call is not active |
| 13:11.55 | Pali | if your application support buttons via hal, then it will receive headset button press event |
| 13:12.40 | sixwheeledbeast | Pail: only on CSSU Testing |
| 13:12.46 | Pali | ok |
| 13:12.47 | Vajb | so how i set camera button to act as play/pause? |
| 13:13.04 | Pali | I think you need to grab that button from X |
| 13:13.24 | Pali | it working for volume keys |
| 13:13.39 | Pali | but I have no idea if camera button is real X key |
| 13:14.12 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Well you have two options, get original N900 headset (only cheap) or setup the camera button. |
| 13:15.01 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: i wanna set my camera button. How i do that? |
| 13:15.35 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I can't go into detail now I have to leave but if you find my wiki page there is a script to disable camera key locking and then use shortcutd to run your dbus command on cam_focus. |
| 13:15.40 | sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks |
| 13:15.41 | infobot | it has been said that beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts |
| 13:15.59 | sixwheeledbeast | goes afk |
| 13:16.27 | Vajb | ok i'll see if i can figure it out. Thx. |
| 13:20.02 | sec | Jessie is frozen |
| 13:20.10 | sec | \o/ |
| 13:20.34 | Pali | with systemd :-( :-( :-( |
| 13:21.06 | Pali | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 |
| 13:23.01 | kerio | does it ship with debian's systemd? |
| 13:24.17 | kerio | Pali: lmao, the default dns is google's |
| 13:24.24 | bencoh | srsly ? |
| 13:24.41 | bencoh | I didnt even think there was a default dns |
| 13:24.56 | jaska | guess ill have to uninstall systemd when jessie comes and reinstall sysvinit :D |
| 13:25.07 | Pali | dnsmasq now supports dnssec |
| 13:25.11 | bencoh | jaska: it might break a few things |
| 13:25.29 | Pali | so you can enable it instead that systemd fucking shit |
| 13:25.37 | bencoh | you might need systemd-shim or something like that |
| 13:25.50 | kerio | i don't think you're even supposed to use systemd-resolved |
| 13:26.00 | kerio | it's like for internal use |
| 13:26.03 | Pali | I have better solution: do not install systemd and use wheezy |
| 13:26.10 | Pali | or better to not upgrade |
| 13:26.14 | zGrr | I think, I'll migrate my desktop PC back to FreeBSD altogether. |
| 13:26.14 | kerio | and for the system, before it's fully booted |
| 13:26.24 | kerio | yeah i'm looking for an alternative |
| 13:26.25 | kerio | but meh |
| 13:26.29 | jaska | dunno what im going to do at work, i have tons of wheezys |
| 13:26.34 | kerio | my home server runs sid |
| 13:26.44 | Pali | bsd has one problem: no hw support in kernel (for desktop/mobile/laptops...) |
| 13:26.51 | Pali | what about linux kernel + bsd userspace? |
| 13:26.53 | Pali | it is possible? |
| 13:27.20 | Pali | is there any distribution with these options? |
| 13:27.21 | kerio | just install gentoo idk |
| 13:27.43 | Pali | I would like to have something like debian or ubuntu lts where are not upgraded all packages |
| 13:27.48 | Pali | just backported security fixes |
| 13:27.59 | bencoh | there is squeeze-lts |
| 13:28.02 | bencoh | but it's ... old |
| 13:28.08 | Pali | wheezy is ok |
| 13:28.10 | zGrr | Pali: it's not that bad with desktop components. |
| 13:28.30 | Pali | zGrr: but I'm afraid of laptop |
| 13:28.41 | bencoh | we might get wheezy-lts before wheezy EOL |
| 13:28.44 | Pali | where I want also some powersave settings and better battery usage |
| 13:28.47 | bencoh | but still meh |
| 13:28.48 | kerio | Pali: buy a macbook! :D |
| 13:28.53 | kerio | launchd is nice! |
| 13:28.53 | bencoh | haha |
| 13:29.04 | Pali | bencoh: I think that wheeze-lts is oj |
| 13:29.15 | bencoh | launchd is actually "better" than systemd ... but it's xml all the way :p |
| 13:29.15 | Pali | macbook is another piece of shit with their non working SW |
| 13:29.21 | kerio | bencoh: *plist |
| 13:29.28 | bencoh | kerio: yeah, even worse |
| 13:29.31 | sec | ~apple |
| 13:29.31 | infobot | somebody said apple was a fruit or a company that makes iPods, iPads, iPhones, and Macs, or the thing that Satan used to tempt Eve |
| 13:29.42 | kerio | there's also a binary format for plists! :D |
| 13:29.44 | zGrr | Pali: I am afraid of virtualization. It had always been lagging behind Linux. |
| 13:30.01 | bencoh | kerio: I dont even want to talk about that dirty thing :] |
| 13:30.22 | kerio | idk, i'm kinda growing used to the microkernel architecture |
| 13:30.32 | kerio | like, the pager is just another daemon |
| 13:30.37 | bencoh | hmm, yeah |
| 13:30.43 | Pali | apple and microkernel?? hahahahaha |
| 13:30.54 | sec | Why did Apple need Tim Cook when Jobs was thinner and lighter already .. |
| 13:31.00 | kerio | so you can just stop it if you're going to never run out of ram |
| 13:31.28 | kerio | Pali: darwin is a microkernel |
| 13:31.33 | bencoh | osx is too greedy for that |
| 13:31.36 | kerio | by definition |
| 13:31.42 | bencoh | some kernel drivers are leaky |
| 13:31.43 | Pali | look how are some parts glued into that micorkernel |
| 13:32.03 | Pali | so hahahaha, no microkernel |
| 13:32.03 | sec | Darwin can afford to be a microkernel because of the limited hardware it is supposed to support |
| 13:32.05 | bencoh | Pali: dont you like iokit magic ? :p |
| 13:32.31 | Pali | anyway, back... do you know some distribution which using linux kernel and bsd userspace? |
| 13:32.40 | bencoh | I personally dont |
| 13:32.42 | Pali | I think this could be really good alternative |
| 13:32.53 | Pali | no systemd and other lennarts shits |
| 13:32.58 | bencoh | and I'd rather go for freebsd (for instance) |
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| 13:33.03 | Pali | with kernel for good hw support |
| 13:33.24 | bencoh | anyway we'll soon have kdbus in linux |
| 13:33.43 | bencoh | so its doomed already :p |
| 13:33.56 | jaska | can always say N to the menuconfig for it :) |
| 13:33.56 | Pali | this is only imagination of greg and lennart |
| 13:34.22 | kerio | bencoh: eeh |
| 13:34.26 | kerio | i don't think so |
| 13:34.38 | bencoh | I hope you're right |
| 13:34.38 | Pali | greg is not big boss |
| 13:34.46 | kerio | i don't think linus will fall for it |
| 13:34.54 | kerio | and he's still the dude with commit access |
| 13:34.58 | bencoh | :) |
| 13:35.09 | Pali | and maybe something with name kdbus could be in kernel... but only if it will be usable |
| 13:35.27 | Pali | if they create some useful IPC, then it can be really in kernel |
| 13:35.32 | Pali | and name does not matter |
| 13:35.44 | Pali | but do you remember? |
| 13:35.52 | Pali | AF_BUS was already rejected |
| 13:36.04 | Pali | and other previous versions too... |
| 13:36.07 | jaska | theyre trying to sneak outside the network stack now :) |
| 13:36.17 | Pali | so some piece of shit will not hit mainline kernel |
| 13:38.13 | Pali | and why not to fork debian or maintain systemd less version of debian? |
| 13:39.53 | Pali | guy who broke 1/3 of all computers should not continue to do this disaster... |
| 13:40.08 | kolp | likes the idea of Qubes OS |
| 13:40.23 | sec | Pali really hates systemd :P |
| 13:40.35 | sec | Or Lennart or w/e |
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| 13:41.12 | bencoh | meanwhile, I'm fighting with sysvinit because this is truly a shitty piece of code .... |
| 13:41.15 | bencoh | INIT: /etc/inittab[43]: process field too long |
| 13:41.29 | bencoh | line was something like 160chars |
| 13:41.30 | Pali | openrc? |
| 13:43.18 | bencoh | harcoded limit at 127, with magicnums in code |
| 13:43.39 | bencoh | (and hardcoded if (strlen(bleh) > 127) ) |
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| 13:48.39 | Luke-Jr | sec: who *doesn't* hate systemd? :P |
| 13:49.52 | sec | I don't hate it. I don't love it either :/ |
| 13:50.07 | sec | I really don't care at this point |
| 13:53.48 | zGrr | I am still hoping that systemd quality might be biggest obstacle preventing widespread implementation |
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| 14:02.26 | dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: that's for the directory-name? |
| 14:02.37 | dreamer | or you have to put that in the id3? |
| 14:07.40 | dreamer | hmm, I have a couple applications that won't upgrade. recently did a reinstall from a backup .. might be because I used some other repositories and those haven't been set? |
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| 14:09.25 | dreamer | some qt-libraries that are conflicting |
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| 14:54.23 | sec | I think the GPS chip on mine is fried or something |
| 14:54.26 | sec | ._. |
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| 15:27.25 | Sicelo | sec: that would be unfortunate. what leads you to that conclusion? |
| 15:28.15 | jaska | ~calibration |
| 15:28.19 | jaska | hmmh |
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| 15:30.05 | jaska | hmh, there is a script to do it.. but what was it |
| 15:31.35 | sec | Sicelo: not getting a GPS lock forever |
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| 15:46.14 | Sicelo | tried location-test gui? |
| 15:46.31 | sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: directory or file names, were my examples. yes |
| 15:47.15 | Sicelo | lock can take long usually, esp. if you aren't using a supl server. note that supl.google hasn't worked for a long time on N900 (or did the situation change?) |
| 15:48.21 | sixwheeledbeast | sec: If you leave device outside for a good hour on a clear day and get no fix there is something broken. |
| 15:48.56 | sixwheeledbeast | supl.nokia.com is now the only working server for our devices I believe. You need the fix from CSSU tho. |
| 15:49.14 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Did you work it out? |
| 15:50.13 | sixwheeledbeast | hopes ubuntu will come to there senses and just carry on using upstart. |
| 15:50.23 | sixwheeledbeast | ~slay systemd |
| 15:50.23 | infobot | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head. |
| 15:51.15 | sec | sixwheeledbeast: I'll try again when it's clear outside. Thanks |
| 15:53.15 | Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: yes. I used ur scripts to use camera button while locked and then installed shortcutd |
| 15:53.39 | sixwheeledbeast | sec: You can get a fix without A-GPS, it takes time to get the almanac data and if the signal is blocked it can take forever. |
| 15:53.54 | Vajb | also disabled camera coming up when pressing the button and now it seems to work |
| 15:54.21 | Vajb | will see next week how usable it is but so far it seems superb. Thanks a lot |
| 15:54.31 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I used camera _focus and don't press too hard. |
| 15:55.09 | sixwheeledbeast | also you can have long press for skip track and short press for play/resume |
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| 15:56.28 | Vajb | yeah i saw that from menu |
| 15:56.34 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: You shouldn't need to block the camera as the camera key button will still be locked. Only cam_focus is unlock with the script. |
| 15:56.54 | sixwheeledbeast | s/unlock/unlocked |
| 15:57.18 | Vajb | oh i thought i should block it coz it was coming up when i tried without locked screen |
| 15:57.57 | Vajb | and it's kinda hard to estimate pressure strenght since im pressing it through pocket so there is fabric inbetween |
| 15:58.23 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: If the screen is locked you can press the camera key and nothing will happen as the key is locked. |
| 15:59.01 | dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: well, in my case the albums are in different subdirs. disc1/ and disc2/ but in the mediaplayer they are all jumbled up |
| 15:59.03 | sixwheeledbeast | It takes practice to get cam_focus press perfect, but after a while it's second nature |
| 15:59.32 | Vajb | yeah will start trying it next week |
| 15:59.59 | Vajb | is there easy way to make same setting for panucci or nqapp? |
| 16:00.07 | Vajb | they r audiobook players |
| 16:00.11 | sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: that makes no sense, if they are in different dirs I can't see how they are getting mixed up. |
| 16:00.38 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: You will have to edit the D-Bus command |
| 16:01.48 | dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: well, subdirs. so maybe it takes the top-level and puts them in there? they have a 'Disc: 1/2' in the id3 |
| 16:02.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: So instead of selecting the preset "mediaplayer play/pause", you can use custom and type the command for it. |
| 16:02.20 | Vajb | drop me a line for solution to panucci when u have time since i have no idea how to make stuff work without tutorials :) |
| 16:02.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ~phonecontrol |
| 16:02.38 | infobot | somebody said phonecontrol was http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control |
| 16:03.09 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I don't use panucci but see above for how dbus calls work |
| 16:03.20 | Vajb | yeah im looking |
| 16:04.26 | Vajb | but as i understand i will have to change setting according to program i use? Or i can keep both settings under same setting and they get enabled only when that program is active? |
| 16:04.47 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Other |
| 16:04.59 | Vajb | meaning that camera key will play pause which ever player is active |
| 16:05.04 | sixwheeledbeast | You will hae to edit the setting unfortunately. |
| 16:05.31 | sixwheeledbeast | Unless you can make a clever script to do everything and call that instead. |
| 16:05.41 | Vajb | well it's not big hussle after i master the commands |
| 16:06.09 | Vajb | i can always save setting as text file and just copypaste it there as needed |
| 16:06.34 | sixwheeledbeast | that is another option I suppose. |
| 16:08.23 | Vajb | just to make things clear. I found a section which says panucci pause. So i just paste that as a custom command and it should work yes? |
| 16:12.57 | raccoon_ | dreamer: what id3 tag is that? and is the value exactly like you pasted: 'Disc: 1/2'? i think the "disc" tag is supposed to have integer values not strings... |
| 16:13.01 | Vajb | hah success |
| 16:13.16 | raccoon_ | if the two albums have the same 'album' tag but unparseable 'disc' tags they will surely get mixed up. |
| 16:13.45 | Vajb | custom command for panucci is now under short press and for mediaplayer under longpress |
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| 16:17.33 | Vajb | maybe to just add cd1 and cd2 to album names. |
| 16:21.39 | Vajb | hmm actually needed to change the order since panucci is bouncing up when it's dbus command is triggered and media player does not |
| 16:22.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I was afk, yes. |
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| 16:25.41 | Vajb | heh cant wait to get back to work and test this setup lol |
| 16:26.35 | sixwheeledbeast | I imagine a script could be made and called as a custom command, so (if, panucci is running, do panucci_pause, else call mafw_pause) Would need to play about and work it out. Be a good script to learn on. |
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| 16:31.19 | Vajb | hmm true |
| 16:31.55 | Vajb | i'll see how it goes and maybe one day i try some scripting |
| 16:32.18 | sixwheeledbeast | oh well have fun at work ;) |
| 16:32.35 | Vajb | haha thanks |
| 16:32.53 | Vajb | tho i have to struggle through weekend first |
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| 16:35.53 | sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: My plan is to make a plug in adapter for my headphones. so a male 4-pin connector to a switch and then a female 3-pin connector for my standard headphones. Then the switch will be my pause/play and the cam_focus can be skip track (or vice-versa). |
| 16:36.05 | sixwheeledbeast | I may get round to it one day.... |
| 16:37.03 | Vajb | cool idea |
| 16:37.37 | sixwheeledbeast | For now the WH-205 headset works fine and is cheap so not worth the time. |
| 16:38.13 | Vajb | i customixed my maxell sport headset with in ear plugs |
| 16:38.42 | Vajb | u know that ear thingy which protects ur hearing |
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| 16:39.32 | Vajb | so i just punched hole through it and put some heat moldable plastic over headset speakers and voila |
| 16:40.01 | Vajb | much lower external noise plus better bass |
| 16:41.06 | Vajb | planning to use koss plugs next time for even better sound quality |
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| 20:06.46 | Vajb | how many of j use yappari? |
| 20:07.34 | Vajb | and how many faces the problem that from time to time n900 starts asking if it should connect to somewhere or disconnect? |
| 20:07.41 | Vajb | j=u* |
| 20:08.09 | Vajb | im asking because mine does |
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| 20:09.29 | Vajb | im mostly connected but from time to time my phone starts popping up network connection dialog even though network is still connected |
| 20:09.49 | Vajb | it seems to me that it just starts asking for the joy of asking... |
| 20:10.17 | Sicelo | Vajb: i use Yappari daily |
| 20:10.33 | Vajb | im not sure if it's related to yappari, but i didn't got it before yappari so im feeling kinda suspicious |
| 20:11.01 | Vajb | have u faced anything what i just descriped? |
| 20:11.27 | Sicelo | that shouldn't be yappari. it does not ask fo connection. will only connect when there is already an active connection |
| 20:11.32 | Sicelo | it never opens it |
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| 20:15.55 | Vajb | hmm |
| 20:16.00 | Vajb | then what it is? |
| 20:16.24 | Vajb | i have yappari facebook chat and irssi which use gprs |
| 20:17.08 | Vajb | and from time to time my phone starts asking whether or not is hould disconnect from here and reconnect there |
| 20:17.48 | Vajb | and that started after i used yappari like few weeks |
| 20:18.36 | Vajb | problem disappears if i just agree to disconnect and reconnect. (to same network or connection type that is) |
| 20:19.02 | sec | ~irssi |
| 20:19.02 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, irssi is a modular IRC client for UNIX. See http://irssi.org/, or the door to the 1337 |
| 20:19.10 | Vajb | it's not big of a problem, but strange behaviour |
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| 20:19.19 | sec | Anyone have a deb for a recent irssi? |
| 20:19.40 | Vajb | i installed that build from forums |
| 20:19.52 | Vajb | .17 or something |
| 20:20.01 | Humpelstilzchen | the point of irssi is to ssh into an always on server where irssi resides in a screen ;) |
| 20:20.04 | Vajb | supports perl scripts |
| 20:20.26 | sec | Erm, Humpelstilzchen, my N900 is a portable always on server |
| 20:20.58 | Humpelstilzchen | how do you mange that? |
| 20:21.06 | sec | Temporarily atleast |
| 20:21.07 | Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: my n900 is always on gprs so im on irc always without any special gadgets ;) |
| 20:21.16 | sec | ^ |
| 20:21.24 | Sicelo | possibly facebook Vajb? it is the one thing i don't have in your list |
| 20:21.28 | sec | I have free data, might as well use it |
| 20:21.35 | Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: and it doesn't change its IP adress when you move? |
| 20:22.05 | Humpelstilzchen | tunnel free country? |
| 20:22.44 | Sicelo | sec: recent irssi -- http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1443068#post1443068 |
| 20:23.16 | Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: well no to know exactly what u mean i try to be funny and say "well i live in finland, not much tunnels in my area" eh? |
| 20:23.25 | sec | Thanks Sicelo! |
| 20:23.40 | sec | I checked that out a while back, but the link wasn't working then |
| 20:23.54 | Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: probably one of the few countrys with nearly 100% coverage.. |
| 20:24.08 | Vajb | Sicelo: hmm maybe, but mostly it starts askig for connection when something happens in yappari |
| 20:24.31 | Sicelo | sec: hmm, really? probably your side. that's my dropbox account btw, and i haven't moved the file at all |
| 20:24.50 | sec | Cheers, thanks |
| 20:25.17 | Sicelo | strange then Vajb. you might want to check /home/user/.config/scorpius/yappari.log to see if you find anything |
| 20:25.21 | Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: agreed. Pretty good coverage alround where i move |
| 20:25.43 | sec | Erm I have pretty much 100% coverage too |
| 20:25.50 | Sicelo | you can even past that log on the Yappari thread. Scorpius is still active in fixing bugs |
| 20:27.05 | Sicelo | *post |
| 20:27.38 | Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: but won't a always on irssi dry up the battery very fast? |
| 20:27.39 | Vajb | Sicelo: pff log longer than my life so far. Will take some time to crawl it through |
| 20:28.39 | Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: as a matter of fact it does, but as i live in finland we have sockets laying all over the place ;) |
| 20:28.46 | Humpelstilzchen | wtf |
| 20:29.04 | Humpelstilzchen | where can I sign in |
| 20:29.25 | Vajb | dunno |
| 20:29.33 | Vajb | at finnish embassy? |
| 20:29.55 | Sicelo | delete the log :) |
| 20:30.09 | Sicelo | a new one will be opened |
| 20:30.29 | Vajb | can u give me an example of what to look? |
| 20:30.46 | Vajb | i could use leafpad search... |
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| 20:32.49 | Vajb | ok i feel like i've had it with this log. Can i just delete it from hamsterfiler? |
| 20:32.57 | Sicelo | yes |
| 20:33.19 | Sicelo | delete exististng log. next time you get unexpected connection dialog, just go into the log to see .. |
| 20:33.51 | Vajb | ok |
| 20:35.09 | sec | Thanks Sicelo :) |
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| 20:35.23 | Sicelo | but Scorpius will help better, but of course, log becomes necessary |
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| 20:36.08 | Vajb | i guess :) |
| 20:39.07 | sec | What's the package for the CA Certs? |
| 20:40.29 | sec | I have maemosec-certman-common-ca installed, but no certificates in /etc/ssl/certs |
| 20:41.01 | sec | Oh nvm, they're lying around in /etc/certs |
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| 21:01.58 | HtheB | guys, is there any way we can get .pnd files to run for the N900? |
| 21:02.06 | HtheB | (open pandora files) |
| 21:02.24 | HtheB | since it uses similair hardware and debian based os. |
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| 21:20.31 | anYc | does anyone know why the emmc image "central europe" is >200mb larger than the vanilla emmc image? |
| 21:20.39 | anYc | http://galif.eu/nokia/N900/ |
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| 21:21.27 | anYc | I'm unsure which I should choose as I live in central europe :) |
| 21:22.54 | anYc | oh, it's >400mb larger |
| 21:23.13 | Vajb | yep so it seems |
| 21:23.34 | Vajb | maybe u have 400mb worth of special characters lol |
| 21:26.22 | anYc | maybe all the surveillance tools are preinstalled so our governments don't have to hack the devices |
| 21:26.47 | anYc | well, I guess I try vanilla first |
| 21:26.47 | Vajb | yes |
| 21:27.01 | Vajb | "nsa inside" |
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| 21:50.14 | kerio | anYc: emmc image is useless anyway |
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| 22:07.51 | Vajb | kerio: how come? |
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