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| 02:08.57 | jonwil | god I am beginning to HATE PulseAudio |
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| 02:18.14 | Oksana | :) Could not they have done plug-ins aka modules, so that it would be easy to analyse parts of it? |
| 02:20.24 | jonwil | They did do separate plugins for PulseAudio in Meego and Harmattan |
| 02:20.29 | jonwil | which helps us |
| 02:21.55 | jonwil | but I still need to understand the sink and source stuff |
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| 04:16.48 | jonwil | Maybe someone in #pulseaudio can help |
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| 13:24.35 | Hebi | anyone using mplayer (cli) for playing movie? |
| 13:25.01 | Hebi | what is optimal setting for prevent video lags? |
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| 15:03.57 | Sicelo | Hebi: i sometimes do .. i have never really changed other settings, besides specifying `-ao pulse` |
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| 15:06.55 | Hebi | with pulse audio is good |
| 15:06.59 | Hebi | no lag |
| 15:07.10 | Hebi | but the video is lagged hard |
| 15:07.18 | Hebi | and out of sync |
| 15:07.40 | Hebi | s/pulse/pulse, |
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| 17:30.49 | seemiyah | ah here it is :) i thought this channel was gone1 |
| 17:31.02 | sixwheeledbeast | nope |
| 17:31.14 | sixwheeledbeast | 206 people now |
| 17:31.45 | sixwheeledbeast | seemiyah: do you have a question? |
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| 17:32.20 | sixwheeledbeast | seemiyah: do you have a question? |
| 17:33.26 | seemiyah | sorry six. not realy. it is more that i just uploaded a video of my latest project and will now ask for some n810 or n900 users to test it out. you want to see the video? its 1:50 minutes and i still have a tear in my eye by seeing my n800 doing so great! |
| 17:34.08 | seemiyah | damn i thought this was a private message. sorry all! |
| 17:34.35 | sixwheeledbeast | it's fine it's on topic, do share. |
| 17:34.50 | seemiyah | ok, thanks. here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_ZLIVsOZk |
| 17:35.47 | seemiyah | I I am searching for people with a n900 to test out the demo link of SEEMIYAH to see if the fullscreen widgets work on the device. |
| 17:38.42 | sixwheeledbeast | seemiyah: so do you have to join to get the widgets? |
| 17:41.24 | sixwheeledbeast | If it works on N8xx then I would think N900 MicroB will be fine. I suppose it's all HTML5? |
| 17:43.02 | seemiyah | yes. when i did it back in 2007 with adobe flash that su***ed a lot. and we had the discussion those days about the propietary situation of Flash. So i now did everything with javascript and html. |
| 17:44.36 | seemiyah | yes you have to join but you can join with ANY email. Even invent one. That is because i want you to be able to create several playlists. If you for example want some special widgets on your n900 you create a playlist for the profile xyz@test.com and if you want to have a second playlist for your televison you create it with a second e-mail. This way you can have independent playlists per device. |
| 17:45.19 | seemiyah | if you want to have one playlist for all your devices you simply start the same playlist on every device. |
| 17:45.32 | seemiyah | thanks for that question - i will add it to the FAQ :) |
| 17:52.47 | seemiyah | can anyone test it out on his/her n810 or n900 ? |
| 17:56.07 | Jef91 | anyone know if this twitter widget still works somewhere? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94047 |
| 17:59.24 | seemiyah | Jef91: i wanted to created a twitter widget for my seemiyah project and realized that since the last twitter API update it realy sucks creating bridges for twitter. So it might be that the twitter widget you talk about still useses the old API connections. |
| 17:59.45 | Jef91 | yea likely |
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| 18:00.05 | Jef91 | I'll have to write one at somepoint myself |
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| 18:14.02 | sixwheeledbeast | most twitter apps for maemo are broken due to new api |
| 18:19.10 | Sicelo | tweetian works.. but has one big bug: mysterious crash |
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| 18:22.43 | bencoh | what does gdb say ? |
| 18:36.52 | Sicelo | i don't have it anymore.. no twitter either. |
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| 19:09.55 | Sicelo | does anyone sometimes have this issue: when there is poor gprs/3g connectivity for a long time, N900 eventually will not connect at all via GPRS, even when it is available. toggling offline mode doesn't help. it will connect via 3G however. |
| 19:10.09 | Sicelo | so far, seems only restarting 'fixes' this |
| 19:12.16 | NIN101 | yeah I have wired issues like these since recently. |
| 19:12.24 | NIN101 | s/wired/weird |
| 19:14.04 | Sicelo | sucks |
| 19:18.19 | Sicelo | NIN101: just now Doc suggested AT+CFUN=0 |
| 19:18.27 | Sicelo | worked.. i'm impressed |
| 19:22.22 | nox- | doc? he's still there? |
| 19:23.24 | nox- | there also is a 2g/3g switcher thingy forgot the name... |
| 19:23.37 | Sicelo | on IRC he will always be .. just not #maemo |
| 19:23.57 | Sicelo | and nox- ..this one is not solvable by switching between 3g/2g.. |
| 19:24.04 | nox- | oh |
| 19:24.20 | Sicelo | not even bringing phonet0 up/down or killing icd2 helps |
| 19:24.31 | nox- | Sicelo, is doc still working on neo900? |
| 19:24.44 | Sicelo | yes |
| 19:24.46 | nox- | oh |
| 19:25.21 | Sicelo | lol. he will not stop at any time, afaict. |
| 19:25.45 | nox- | heh |
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| 19:35.01 | NIN101 | Sicelo: thanks for the info |
| 19:37.55 | seemiyah | hi you three, does anyone of you own the n900 and could spend 5 minutes in checking if my full screen widgets work on the device? |
| 19:38.03 | seemiyah | it's a simple website you'd have to call. |
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| 20:14.09 | Vajb | sysklogd is surprising program. Since i installed it m mediaplayer has been playing nicely... |
| 20:14.27 | Vajb | -m* |
| 20:16.03 | sixwheeledbeast | i seem to have that issue when trying to find intermittent issues |
| 20:18.14 | Sicelo | strace too, haha.. you start running it, problems stop :( |
| 20:18.27 | Vajb | maybe maemo is a bit shy after all |
| 20:18.43 | Vajb | doesn't want to reveal all secrets at once |
| 20:19.50 | Vajb | btw is installing .deb just like walk in a park or more like hike to top of everest? |
| 20:20.42 | Sicelo | on maemo? same as on desktop |
| 20:21.13 | sec | dpkg -i whatever.deb |
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| 20:21.42 | Sicelo | yes.. you can even run it via HAM by just clicking it in file manager |
| 20:25.28 | sixwheeledbeast | even microb will open ham for you if on the web, IIRC |
| 20:27.02 | sec | You could even dpkg -x whatever.deb and cp everything in place manually |
| 20:34.34 | Vajb | ok thx for the info. Guess im trying that new irssi from the forums |
| 20:37.02 | sec | Take the red pill Vajb. You have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes. |
| 20:39.23 | Vajb | i rather think that this rabbit hole goes way up above other phones :p |
| 20:40.20 | totalizator | Vajb: new Irssi? from forums? haha, thanks for the info |
| 20:40.38 | sec | Got a new old phone Vajb? |
| 20:41.33 | Vajb | yeah second hand. Actually two atm |
| 20:42.10 | Vajb | other one isn't playing that nice, but since installing sysklogd not a single reboot has happen |
| 20:42.21 | Vajb | tho it just idles without sim... |
| 20:42.59 | sec | Ah, you'll have fun. Brilliant little thing. Pity Elop happened. |
| 20:43.01 | sec | ~elop |
| 20:43.01 | infobot | [elop] definetely a microsoft spy and one of the most successful corporate trolls |
| 20:43.50 | Vajb | yeah. I've had this over a year now actually, but wanted to lay low and hide |
| 20:44.06 | Vajb | before joining #maemo that is haha |
| 20:44.30 | Vajb | elop was one thing and bad decissions another |
| 20:51.51 | Vajb | actually it opened to ham even from opera after it was downloaded |
| 20:52.14 | Vajb | tho now it's whining about dependencies. Need to install perl first |
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| 20:55.20 | Sicelo900v6 | vajb: if it gives you problems, let me know |
| 20:55.54 | Vajb | hmm strange tried to install perl and fam crashed |
| 20:56.01 | Vajb | never happened before |
| 20:56.06 | Vajb | trying again... |
| 20:56.27 | Sicelo900v6 | ~fam |
| 20:56.27 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam |
| 20:57.15 | sec | ~speedyHAM |
| 20:57.16 | infobot | i guess speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb, or in cssu-thumb, or 30 times faster than HAM |
| 20:57.48 | sec | Thumb oh thumb, why are you always so alluring yet so elusive |
| 20:57.58 | Vajb | i see. So this is what i should be using? |
| 20:58.09 | sec | You'll need thumb for it |
| 20:58.10 | sec | ~cssu |
| 20:58.11 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) |
| 20:58.18 | sec | ~thumb |
| 20:58.19 | infobot | well, cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
| 20:58.26 | Vajb | ah i have thumb in my other device |
| 20:58.26 | Sicelo900v6 | sec: it is not 'necessary' to use thumb |
| 20:58.46 | sec | Ah it isn't? |
| 20:58.47 | Sicelo900v6 | but Vajb, just use regular HAM, or even apt-get |
| 20:59.03 | Sicelo900v6 | sec: no. install the deb |
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| 20:59.30 | sec | Oh I had no idea all this while |
| 20:59.32 | sec | Heh |
| 21:00.14 | Vajb | strange now fam can't find libperl at all |
| 21:00.33 | Vajb | trying apt coz ham doesn't show lib's |
| 21:01.05 | sec | Do you have the right repos enabled? |
| 21:02.05 | Vajb | i didn't change anything |
| 21:02.29 | Vajb | first it saw it and crashed when installing. After restaring it, it was gone |
| 21:02.41 | Vajb | updated catalogs but no effect |
| 21:03.03 | Vajb | restarting* |
| 21:03.16 | sixwheeledbeast | Hang on speedyham doesnt need thumb |
| 21:03.24 | sixwheeledbeast | oh you said that |
| 21:04.06 | Vajb | hmm apt shows that it is installed.... |
| 21:04.07 | Sicelo900v6 | Vajb: libperl is in sdk repo, and downloads. nokia.com (don't konw if that still works) |
| 21:04.33 | Vajb | i found it in regular repo :o |
| 21:04.53 | Sicelo900v6 | that means downloads.maemo.nokia.com still works :) |
| 21:05.04 | sixwheeledbeast | infobot no speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb |
| 21:05.04 | infobot | okay, sixwheeledbeast |
| 21:07.20 | Vajb | does speedyham completely replace old ham? Or it just works at side of it? |
| 21:07.43 | Vajb | mean if i install will i have 3 package managers then... |
| 21:07.44 | Sicelo900v6 | replaces |
| 21:07.53 | Vajb | ok |
| 21:08.02 | Sicelo900v6 | sixwheeledbeast: they optimized it, right? |
| 21:08.57 | Vajb | and it should work from that link even tho it points to thumb repo? |
| 21:09.08 | Vajb | i have just regular cssu stable here |
| 21:09.16 | Sicelo900v6 | it's not pointing to thumb repo :) |
| 21:09.27 | sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo900v6: Vajb: fixes to the stock application manager |
| 21:09.31 | sixwheeledbeast | yes |
| 21:09.44 | sixwheeledbeast | ~fmg |
| 21:09.44 | infobot | methinks fmg is the greatest |
| 21:09.59 | Sicelo900v6 | ~pali |
| 21:09.59 | infobot | pali is probably http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
| 21:11.46 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't recommend the use of anything other than HAM or speedyHAM |
| 21:11.51 | sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam |
| 21:11.52 | infobot | rumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
| 21:12.06 | M4rtinK | so how did you make it faster ? :) |
| 21:12.06 | kerio | ~kerio |
| 21:12.06 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty, or <DocScrutinizer51> u r right, or poettering killa |
| 21:12.15 | M4rtinK | or why was ham so slow ? :) |
| 21:13.05 | sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: fmg found poorly written code IIRC. |
| 21:13.19 | sixwheeledbeast | ~slay systemd |
| 21:13.19 | infobot | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head. |
| 21:16.11 | sixwheeledbeast | he believes it can be made faster too... :) |
| 21:16.21 | Vajb | says that it's not compatible |
| 21:16.38 | Vajb | ham says that speedyham is not compatible |
| 21:17.22 | Sicelo900v6 | install manually |
| 21:17.52 | Sicelo900v6 | obviously HAM will be 'jealous' |
| 21:20.44 | Vajb | hmm true |
| 21:22.19 | bencoh | haha |
| 21:22.48 | bencoh | hmm, are you cherry-picking speedyham ? |
| 21:24.07 | Vajb | dependency problems |
| 21:24.09 | sixwheeledbeast | it would appear so yes. |
| 21:29.57 | bencoh | btw, I'm looking for a memleak in osso-systemui-tklock ... any idea where it could hide ? |
| 21:30.04 | bencoh | (I hope it's not hiding in systemui itself) |
| 21:30.13 | Sicelo900v6 | depencies for installing speedyHAM? or libperl? what are they? |
| 21:34.09 | Vajb | two actually |
| 21:36.27 | Vajb | libglib2-0.0 |
| 21:36.44 | Vajb | libglib2.0-0* |
| 21:37.11 | Vajb | libpixman-1-0 |
| 21:37.25 | Vajb | too old versions |
| 21:37.39 | Vajb | guess i have to enable some more repos |
| 21:37.59 | Sicelo900v6 | those are wanted by speedyHAM? |
| 21:38.24 | Vajb | yes |
| 21:38.34 | Sicelo900v6 | you said the device is on CSSU? |
| 21:38.51 | Vajb | yep cssu stable |
| 21:38.57 | Sicelo900v6 | ok. |
| 21:39.38 | Sicelo900v6 | install irssi with apt then :p |
| 21:40.09 | Vajb | i already installed new irssi :) |
| 21:40.22 | Vajb | just didn't restart it yet |
| 21:41.07 | Sicelo900v6 | ok ;) |
| 21:41.28 | Vajb | irssi installed just fine after apt install libperl5.8 |
| 21:43.39 | Sicelo900v6 | must move his N900 to thumb now |
| 21:45.39 | Vajb | btw is it possible to get same battery info visible on menu as seen on thumb? |
| 21:45.54 | Vajb | it shows percent and mah left |
| 21:47.13 | Sicelo900v6 | yes. i have that.. don't remember if it came with cssu-testing or what.. |
| 21:48.33 | Sicelo900v6 | but anyway, g'nite everyone |
| 21:50.41 | Vajb | i see. Nite Sicelo900v6 |
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