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| 02:32.19 | gogogogo | hello everybody |
| 02:32.50 | gogogogo | in my X-terminal I keep getting an unmet dependencies error whenever I try to install something |
| 02:33.26 | gogogogo | I tried "apt-get -f install" as prompted but it didn't work |
| 02:33.49 | gogogogo | I also tried out "apt-get autoremove" |
| 02:34.50 | gogogogo | I understand that my FlashPlayer is to blame |
| 02:34.58 | gogogogo | but I can't get rid of it in any way |
| 02:35.34 | gogogogo | Both hildon and x-terminal get stuck because of the dependencies |
| 02:35.46 | gogogogo | what do you think I should do? |
| 02:37.08 | gogogogo | hildon says my home-tutorial-applet needs FlashPlayer installed so I can't uninstall it |
| 02:38.14 | gogogogo | X-Terminal says "The following packages have unmet dependencies: mp-fremantle-generic-pr: Depends: adobe-flashplayer (= 3.0.0.87+0m5) but 11.4.94 is installed |
| 02:38.19 | gogogogo | " |
| 02:40.33 | gogogogo | it must be something stupid but I'm not very good at this kind of things unfortunately |
| 02:43.50 | gogogogo | well.. I'm leaving due to timezone. Please if anybody knows how to help just write something. I'll read tomorrow morning |
| 02:43.55 | gogogogo | bye |
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| 03:13.34 | Oksana | Try 'apt-get --reinstall install adobe-flashplayer' |
| 03:13.49 | Oksana | And tell the error(s), if any. |
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| 12:09.09 | gogogogo | hello, I'm the guy with the unmet dependencies error who wrote you last night. I read Oksana's suggestions and tried "apt-get --reinstall adobe-flashplayer" |
| 12:09.23 | gogogogo | unfortunately I got "Invalid operataion adobe-flashplayer" |
| 12:11.04 | capsule | try to install it with opk or search with software application center |
| 12:11.51 | gogogogo | I'm actually trying to install "gstreamer-tools" but adobe-flashplayer dependencies issues always get in my way |
| 12:12.23 | gogogogo | I can't uninstall flashplayer trought hildon |
| 12:12.52 | gogogogo | mm.. what do you think I should try? |
| 12:13.17 | gogogogo | I think I can do without flashplayer, I don't care about YouTube or else.. |
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| 12:13.43 | capsule | uninstall adobe flashplayer , and re-install him from apt-get / opk / Application center |
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| 12:16.09 | capsule | with terminal , you can check adobe flashplayer version |
| 12:16.16 | capsule | write : $dpkg --get-selections |
| 12:16.38 | capsule | for make list , find it , uninstall him wit : |
| 12:18.22 | capsule | gogogogo , go to : http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/06/install-remove-deb-package/ |
| 12:19.03 | gogogogo | ok I'm trying |
| 12:20.30 | gogogogo | $dpkg --get-selections -> not found |
| 12:20.43 | capsule | hmm |
| 12:20.55 | capsule | put name off flash player adobe |
| 12:20.58 | capsule | after -- |
| 12:21.07 | gogogogo | ok |
| 12:21.09 | capsule | like dpkg --Adobe |
| 12:21.13 | capsule | but i am not sure |
| 12:21.30 | gogogogo | again, not found |
| 12:21.37 | capsule | i am on windows -______- at this moment , i can't try with u :/ |
| 12:21.54 | capsule | u need to replace --get-selections |
| 12:21.56 | gogogogo | don't worry, you're being useful anyway |
| 12:22.00 | capsule | by paquet name |
| 12:22.04 | capsule | package name |
| 12:22.36 | gogogogo | thegeekstuff.com teaches how to uninstall via terminal |
| 12:22.42 | capsule | yes |
| 12:22.43 | gogogogo | I will try |
| 12:23.16 | gogogogo | oh ... |
| 12:23.19 | capsule | first steps , just for chek if u have adobe flash player on ur computeur ;) and what version |
| 12:23.22 | gogogogo | it gives a long error |
| 12:24.12 | gogogogo | I'm writing from Windows, and I have the latest version for sure |
| 12:24.24 | capsule | -____- |
| 12:24.38 | gogogogo | anyway the error is "dependency problems prevent removal of adobe-flashplayer" |
| 12:24.44 | capsule | u are on maemo chan ? |
| 12:24.50 | gogogogo | yes |
| 12:24.58 | gogogogo | my n900 is what I'm talking about |
| 12:25.00 | capsule | maemo is linux o.s |
| 12:25.02 | capsule | :D |
| 12:25.14 | capsule | i have buy one , since 1 month |
| 12:25.17 | capsule | i love it !! |
| 12:25.18 | gogogogo | I am confused but NOT that much yet XD |
| 12:25.19 | capsule | =) |
| 12:25.28 | gogogogo | I'm sure you do, it's the best phone ever |
| 12:25.34 | capsule | yeahhhh |
| 12:25.35 | capsule | :p |
| 12:25.53 | capsule | but now we need to make perfomance to linux world |
| 12:25.54 | gogogogo | I just stupidily installed flash player D: |
| 12:25.59 | capsule | and when u from windows is hard :p |
| 12:26.09 | capsule | look about apt-get |
| 12:26.13 | capsule | and dpkg |
| 12:26.25 | gogogogo | I did, it's just I can't get rid of this problam |
| 12:26.30 | gogogogo | problem* |
| 12:26.34 | capsule | ior |
| 12:26.36 | capsule | or |
| 12:26.38 | gogogogo | with unmet dependencies |
| 12:27.06 | capsule | go in application center |
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| 12:27.12 | capsule | without terminal |
| 12:27.16 | gogogogo | yes |
| 12:27.18 | capsule | graphical mode |
| 12:27.26 | capsule | and check installed application |
| 12:27.39 | capsule | if u see adobeflash :/ |
| 12:27.49 | gogogogo | it will take really long, I do find it installed |
| 12:28.11 | gogogogo | and can't uninstall via gui either |
| 12:28.49 | capsule | hmmm |
| 12:29.00 | capsule | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.16 | capsule | and try again |
| 12:30.00 | gogogogo | I did |
| 12:30.07 | gogogogo | all the same :\ |
| 12:30.27 | capsule | are u french ? |
| 12:30.38 | gogogogo | nope but I can read French |
| 12:30.46 | capsule | okok :) |
| 12:31.13 | capsule | parceque je te comprend sans probleme , et je m'étonne moi meme ... |
| 12:31.35 | capsule | u can read french with translate ? :p |
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| 12:32.43 | gogogogo | I can read it without translating it first, don't worry |
| 12:32.58 | capsule | je ne m'inquiete pas ;) |
| 12:33.16 | gogogogo | bien |
| 12:35.11 | gogogogo | je ne sais pais quoi je doirai faire |
| 12:38.37 | gogogogo | je ne voudrai pas reinitialiser mon telephone |
| 12:41.37 | gogogogo | je seuis entrant de dejeuner, a bien tot |
| 12:42.36 | capsule | salut |
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| 13:19.32 | gogogogo | je vien de dejeuner |
| 13:20.54 | gogogogo | I will shift back to English, I just can't speak French anymore ;) |
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| 13:30.09 | capsule | :) |
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| 13:59.14 | capsule | do you know if i can use n900 as microphone on my computeur ?? |
| 14:05.20 | kerio | idk if pulseaudio can do network audio transfers |
| 14:05.26 | kerio | iirc it had some problems |
| 14:05.48 | Humpelstilzchen | stream the mic with gstreamer/udp |
| 14:06.54 | Humpelstilzchen | capsule: you could do something like gst-launch pulsesrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! nokiaaacenc ! udpsink host=192.168.1.2 port=5000 |
| 14:09.10 | gogogogo | that would be awesome |
| 14:09.28 | gogogogo | lucky you, I can't install gstreamer :) |
| 14:09.48 | gogogogo | adobe is in the way goddamn it |
| 14:10.10 | Humpelstilzchen | you can't install gst? |
| 14:10.15 | freemangordon_ | hmm? |
| 14:10.22 | gogogogo | nope |
| 14:10.23 | freemangordon_ | it is already there |
| 14:10.29 | freemangordon_ | (on n900) |
| 14:10.47 | gogogogo | I read on the SmartCam tutorial that you should get it from terminal.. |
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| 14:11.14 | freemangordon_ | get what? |
| 14:11.17 | gogogogo | well, even better if it's already there, but still I have to unblock my apt-get |
| 14:11.22 | gogogogo | gstreamer-tools |
| 14:11.37 | freemangordon_ | and... why is your apt-get blocked? |
| 14:11.48 | gogogogo | unmet dependencies with adobe-flashplayer |
| 14:11.55 | gogogogo | that I can't fix in any way |
| 14:12.47 | Humpelstilzchen | should be fixable |
| 14:12.48 | gogogogo | neither through hildon nor x-terminal |
| 14:12.56 | Humpelstilzchen | whats the output? |
| 14:13.17 | gogogogo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: mp-fremantle-generic-pr: Depends: adobe-flashplayer (= 3.0.0.87+0m5) but 11.4.94 is installed |
| 14:13.39 | gogogogo | hildon says that also home-tutorial-applet or something depends on flashplayer |
| 14:13.52 | freemangordon_ | where did you get that flashplayer from? |
| 14:14.08 | gogogogo | it was a long time ago, I can't really remember |
| 14:14.17 | Humpelstilzchen | apt-cache policy adobe-flashplayer |
| 14:14.24 | freemangordon_ | well, you can try to "apt-get install adobe-flashplayer=3.0.0.87+0m5" |
| 14:14.30 | gogogogo | I'll try it right away |
| 14:14.36 | gogogogo | both things |
| 14:14.40 | gogogogo | thanks |
| 14:16.46 | gogogogo | the output from apt-cache is quite long |
| 14:17.10 | gogogogo | version table lists 2 different versions |
| 14:17.34 | Humpelstilzchen | the output from apt-cache is to answer the question where your flash is coming from |
| 14:17.49 | gogogogo | oh sorry |
| 14:17.53 | gogogogo | I have a link |
| 14:18.06 | gogogogo | https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages |
| 14:18.18 | gogogogo | that's the link in the output |
| 14:18.42 | Humpelstilzchen | thats the one you should have installed |
| 14:19.06 | gogogogo | then I'll try the second advice |
| 14:19.10 | Humpelstilzchen | (and not the one that is) |
| 14:20.35 | gogogogo | tried apt-get install adobe-flashplayer=3.... |
| 14:20.41 | gogogogo | it aborts in the end |
| 14:21.26 | Humpelstilzchen | can you pastebin? |
| 14:21.32 | freemangordon_ | what's the error? |
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| 14:21.41 | gogogogo | it's a pretty long one |
| 14:21.50 | Humpelstilzchen | use a pastebin |
| 14:21.55 | gogogogo | if you can wait a few minutes I'll copy and paste it on a note |
| 14:21.58 | gogogogo | I'm from my pc |
| 14:22.02 | gogogogo | and will use pastebin |
| 14:22.31 | gogogogo | can I copy text from x-terminal? |
| 14:22.45 | Humpelstilzchen | sure |
| 14:23.22 | gogogogo | I can select it but ctrl+c doesn't do anything |
| 14:23.36 | Humpelstilzchen | gogogogo: go to menu->copy |
| 14:23.44 | gogogogo | ok there was a button in menu - copy |
| 14:23.48 | gogogogo | yeah got it thank you |
| 14:26.10 | gogogogo | here it is http://pastebin.com/bUM4dDWs |
| 14:26.49 | Humpelstilzchen | uhm |
| 14:26.56 | Humpelstilzchen | there is just an abort? |
| 14:27.13 | gogogogo | yes |
| 14:27.17 | gogogogo | when I press Y |
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| 14:29.38 | freemangordon_ | broken apt cache? |
| 14:30.05 | gogogogo | is there a way to find out? |
| 14:30.20 | Humpelstilzchen | gogogogo: did you just try <enter> without Y? |
| 14:30.27 | gogogogo | yes |
| 14:30.32 | freemangordon_ | :D |
| 14:30.51 | Humpelstilzchen | why the hell does it abort? |
| 14:31.02 | freemangordon_ | gogogogo: also, do you have free space on rootfs |
| 14:31.04 | freemangordon_ | ? |
| 14:31.05 | gogogogo | it gives "WARNING: the followin packages cannot be authenticated! adobe-flashplayer" |
| 14:31.16 | Humpelstilzchen | thats no error |
| 14:31.16 | freemangordon_ | no, that's fime |
| 14:31.27 | freemangordon_ | what about free space on root? |
| 14:31.29 | gogogogo | yes I guess so, but let me check Conky |
| 14:31.39 | freemangordon_ | df -h |
| 14:32.06 | gogogogo | rootfs 161M/228M (63M) |
| 14:33.45 | gogogogo | is that enough? |
| 14:34.51 | freemangordon_ | should be |
| 14:34.53 | Humpelstilzchen | I have less and my apt works |
| 14:35.11 | freemangordon_ | gogogogo: what about /opt ? |
| 14:35.20 | gogogogo | I don't know that :S |
| 14:35.38 | gogogogo | opt in df -h has 1.1GB available |
| 14:35.39 | freemangordon_ | toldya, pastebin the output from "df -h" |
| 14:35.46 | gogogogo | but I don't know that is |
| 14:36.40 | freemangordon_ | gogogogo: try "apt-get clean" |
| 14:36.53 | gogogogo | do you still need the pastebin? |
| 14:37.04 | freemangordon_ | and "apt-get install ..." after that |
| 14:37.08 | freemangordon_ | yes |
| 14:37.15 | gogogogo | ok, hold on a minute |
| 14:37.26 | freemangordon_ | also, I need the output of "mount" |
| 14:38.51 | freemangordon_ | is going afk, will continue when I am back home |
| 14:39.39 | gogogogo | http://pastebin.com/qZZgKdpP |
| 14:39.50 | gogogogo | I'm going to apt-get clean now |
| 14:39.54 | capsule | hi freemangordon_ :) |
| 14:40.31 | gogogogo | "apt-get clean" displays nothing |
| 14:40.40 | Humpelstilzchen | thats fine clean has no output |
| 14:40.45 | capsule | gogogogo you can follow freemangordon_ steps ;) he know :) |
| 14:40.55 | gogogogo | thanks capsule |
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| 14:43.22 | gogogogo | would you suggest that I flash my phone? |
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| 14:59.13 | capsule | try to find how fix that |
| 14:59.33 | capsule | or you risk to flash all time u meet problem :) |
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| 15:12.08 | freemangordon | gogogogo: try again with apt-get install |
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| 15:38.19 | gogogogo | apt-get install adobe-flashplayer |
| 15:38.27 | gogogogo | do you mean this? |
| 15:38.36 | Vajb | sorry to interrupt, but i asked earlier what would it take to make qquiz to support scandic characters (äö)? |
| 15:38.52 | gogogogo | this is a free chan :) |
| 15:39.05 | gogogogo | run over me anytime XD |
| 15:42.07 | Vajb | thx i will :p |
| 15:42.35 | Vajb | tho im at work now so won't be too intrusive. |
| 15:45.49 | gogogogo | thank you kindly mate |
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| 15:48.02 | seemiyah | unbelievable! I did not got in here for about 6 years. I am glad to see that it still exists! Hi to everyone :) |
| 15:50.02 | ecc3g | yep, still people using these devices... |
| 15:51.38 | seemiyah | i realised a project for my n800 in 2007 and just finished its "rebirth" these weeks. Two days ago i had my n800 in my hands and when i popped up the camera i realised how breakthrough the design of the device was. had tears in my eyes ;) |
| 15:52.40 | seemiyah | i will do a teaser-video these days and present the n800 as from my pov it rocked a lot that time. |
| 15:53.27 | seemiyah | ecc3g: can you tell me if the n810 or n900 is capable of playing jquery animations? |
| 15:53.41 | seemiyah | sorry, forget the "animations" thing. Is the browser capable of javascript? |
| 15:54.34 | seemiyah | ecc3g: one of my projects at that time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEuHHQGV3Q |
| 15:57.20 | zGrr | good old days |
| 16:01.20 | seemiyah | yeah. i yet remember the discussions we had in here when QT appeared on stage. The more i do love to see so many still in this channel. |
| 16:02.23 | freemangordon | gogogogo: yes, with the correct version |
| 16:06.30 | gogogogo | I will try in a few minutes, thanks freemangordon |
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| 18:33.21 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 18:35.53 | Nokiabot | Dang my net seems to be alive its past 12 ! |
| 18:38.43 | Nokiabot | ~Ping |
| 18:38.44 | infobot | ~pong |
| 18:38.52 | Nokiabot | Eek |
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| 18:45.02 | Nokiabot | ~Ping |
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| 18:45.14 | Nokiabot | Oops |
| 18:54.49 | Nokiabot | ~Ping |
| 18:54.49 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 19:13.37 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 19:19.56 | Sicelo | lol |
| 19:20.12 | Sicelo | i am, and i think i'll add you on ignore too |
| 19:28.17 | Nokiabot | Sileco:p why btw doc is on fire i donn know why he reacted to the facto so much :( |
| 19:30.48 | Sicelo | it's noise |
| 19:31.02 | Sicelo | you have network problem? why don't you look for a bouncer then? |
| 19:32.06 | Nokiabot | Sicelo:whats a bouncer |
| 19:32.46 | Sicelo | a program that allows you to be online on IRC 24/7. google znc for example |
| 19:33.16 | Nokiabot | Sileco:well true btw i didnt think like that previously |
| 19:34.38 | Nokiabot | Sicelo:thanx will se how to use it :) |
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| 20:40.47 | gogogogo | sorry for taking so long, I'm trying now and I get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 20:41.01 | gogogogo | I'm not using the hildon application manager |
| 20:41.45 | gogogogo | I'm trying* to "apt-get install gstreamer-tools" first to detect the exact version of adobe-flashplayer to downgrade to |
| 20:42.32 | gogogogo | after the error I would try to install it but I can't use any apt-get.. |
| 20:44.06 | gogogogo | in top list hildon is mentioned twice :hildon-status-menu and hildon-desktop |
| 20:44.18 | gogogogo | then I read /usr/lib/apt/methods/http |
| 20:46.08 | gogogogo | I happen to have just rebooted my phone and all I did afterwards is playing a game and sending a few sms. I didn't use any installation-related program |
| 20:48.19 | Sicelo | are you root? |
| 20:50.00 | gogogogo | yes |
| 20:50.08 | gogogogo | I checked with "id" |
| 20:52.33 | Sicelo | by the way, why are you even using apt? (i'm not saying it's 'wrong' as such [i use it], but you have to have good reason to .. hildon application manager is the recommended way to install sofware) |
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| 20:53.57 | Sicelo | and i'm not sure i understand "20:41 < gogogogo> I'm trying* to "apt-get install gstreamer-tools" first to detect the exact version of adobe-flashplayer to downgrade to" |
| 20:54.30 | gogogogo | it's a long story :D |
| 20:54.44 | gogogogo | hildon gets stuck due to flashplayer dependencies |
| 20:55.05 | gogogogo | and gstreamer-tools (which I'm trying to install) is not available within hildon list |
| 20:55.36 | gogogogo | I read that I had to use apt-get in SmartCam installation tutorial |
| 20:56.40 | Sicelo | in your case, i'd simply get the default flash player first. there is only one version |
| 20:56.53 | gogogogo | I can't get rid of it either |
| 20:56.57 | gogogogo | it's completely stuck |
| 20:57.21 | gogogogo | I'm using Flash11 when I'm prompted by the terminal to use Flash3 |
| 20:57.32 | Sicelo | what's stuck? paste your error in a pastebin somewhere |
| 20:57.40 | gogogogo | so I should downgrade but it doesn't get to the end |
| 20:57.58 | gogogogo | wait, I wrote that before today, I'll look in logs |
| 20:58.50 | gogogogo | http://pastebin.com/bUM4dDWs |
| 20:59.21 | gogogogo | I get "Abort" after typing "Y" |
| 20:59.38 | gogogogo | I have no clue what's going on, but I'm much of a newbie too.. |
| 21:00.07 | Sicelo | how did you install the newer flashplayer? |
| 21:02.14 | gogogogo | I can't remember because it was a long time ago but I guess I just downloaded it through hildon |
| 21:02.25 | gogogogo | no wait |
| 21:02.36 | gogogogo | now I remember installing it from a .deb |
| 21:02.43 | Sicelo | on mine it's installed differently.. |
| 21:03.04 | gogogogo | I downloaded a .deb from somewhere in the wiki or the forum |
| 21:03.28 | Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/127815/ |
| 21:03.47 | Nokiabot | Apt-get purge libflashplayer.so |
| 21:04.14 | gogogogo | Nokiabot, is that a real message? |
| 21:04.33 | Nokiabot | Apt-get purge flashplayer |
| 21:04.38 | gogogogo | Sicelo, what should I understand from your paste? |
| 21:05.21 | Nokiabot | Gogogogo you can try the one after it |
| 21:06.17 | Nokiabot | Sicelo:tell him to purge it then install again |
| 21:06.38 | gogogogo | Nokiabot I can read you, I'm trying |
| 21:06.54 | Nokiabot | I fixed mine that way when mine got wonky |
| 21:07.02 | gogogogo | I tried both your strings but those packages weren't detected |
| 21:07.18 | gogogogo | so I tried "apt-get purge adobe-flashplayer" |
| 21:07.34 | gogogogo | and it still stays I have unmet dependencies and get stuck |
| 21:07.39 | gogogogo | gets* |
| 21:08.00 | Nokiabot | Gogogogo:thats why i was asking sileco to give you exact package names |
| 21:08.00 | Sicelo | what are the dependencies.. you din't give us that.. |
| 21:08.08 | gogogogo | thanks |
| 21:08.35 | gogogogo | 1) mp-fremantle-generic-pr 2) tutorial-home-applet |
| 21:09.19 | gogogogo | "Depends: adobe-flashplayer (>= 3.0.0.87+0m5) but it is not going to be installed" |
| 21:09.21 | Sicelo | it wants to install those? or to remove them? or says it doesn't find them? maybe a paste will help :) |
| 21:09.38 | gogogogo | I will paste, wait a minute |
| 21:10.10 | Nokiabot | Gogogogo:if you can flash it as it would be even better to have a fresh device after all these years |
| 21:10.45 | gogogogo | I flashed it only last year.. |
| 21:11.11 | Sicelo | :p |
| 21:11.34 | gogogogo | well, I know that is a nice thing to do anyway.. I was trying all I could to avoid that first |
| 21:11.46 | Sicelo | flashed his N900 only once. July 2011 when I bought it. still working fine as a daily (and only) device |
| 21:12.24 | gogogogo | http://pastebin.com/kFKRDhRb |
| 21:12.40 | gogogogo | Sicelo, that's my plan as well |
| 21:13.07 | gogogogo | I'm just not sure I will still find a flash-image easily |
| 21:13.14 | gogogogo | or I'm maybe wrong |
| 21:13.19 | Sicelo | they are available.. see /topic |
| 21:13.48 | Sicelo | what is the current version of maemo you have? |
| 21:14.05 | gogogogo | sorry to ask, how can I figure out? |
| 21:14.28 | M4rtinK | well, I haven't reflashed my N900 since I bought it in 2010 :) |
| 21:14.59 | gogogogo | reflashing is nice.. it all feels more responsive afterwards |
| 21:15.15 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.38 | Sicelo | gogogogo: control panel > about device (and about cssu if you have that) |
| 21:15.41 | gogogogo | even though I know what a noob I am and if I ever happened to brick my phone I would resent it. It's not an iPhone or an Android, I like it! :D |
| 21:15.52 | gogogogo | ok, I don't have cssu |
| 21:16.21 | gogogogo | Meamo 5 21.2011.38-1 |
| 21:17.23 | gogogogo | is that good ? :-) |
| 21:17.44 | gogogogo | my n900's selfesteem is at stake now. Be kind. |
| 21:18.04 | Sicelo | yes. you're on 'latest' stock system. |
| 21:18.18 | gogogogo | "latest"? |
| 21:18.44 | Sicelo | lol, yes. last |
| 21:19.00 | gogogogo | ahahah I got it now, sorry |
| 21:19.15 | gogogogo | I'm no mothertongue annd no genius either XD |
| 21:23.05 | Sicelo | i'm not too sure what you should do now.. but the real problem is not in the purge attempt, but rather, why apt-get aborts. i would trying forcing, but i'm not saying it will work fine for you :/ |
| 21:23.06 | Oksana | gogogogo: You tried 'apt-get --reinstall adobe-flashplayer' instead of ' 'apt-get --reinstall install adobe-flashplayer', that's why it complained that it does not know an operation adobe-flashplayer |
| 21:24.11 | gogogogo | what should I do instead? I didn't understand |
| 21:24.56 | Oksana | What will apt-get say now if you try 'apt-get install adobe-flashplayer'? |
| 21:25.15 | gogogogo | let me check |
| 21:26.18 | gogogogo | again, unmet dependencies :\ |
| 21:27.02 | Oksana | And if you try 'apt-get --reinstall install adobe-flashplayer' ? |
| 21:27.40 | gogogogo | invalid operation adobe-flashplayer |
| 21:28.47 | freemangordon | it is the other way around |
| 21:28.58 | freemangordon | apt-get install --reinstall $whatever |
| 21:29.48 | freemangordon | gogogogo: try "apt-get install --reinstall adobe-flash-player=3.0.0.87+0m5" |
| 21:30.11 | freemangordon | gogogogo: did you disable nokia and ovi repos by chance? |
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| 21:31.20 | gogogogo | 1) couldn't find adobe-flash-player package |
| 21:31.35 | gogogogo | 2) I'm going to try again with "adobe-flashplayer" |
| 21:31.45 | freemangordon | oh,ok, I mistyped it |
| 21:31.47 | gogogogo | 3) I'm going to check repositories status in hildon |
| 21:32.11 | gogogogo | 2) -> Abort. |
| 21:32.28 | freemangordon | what is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list |
| 21:32.41 | freemangordon | also, what does apt-get update does? |
| 21:33.03 | Oksana | Sorry about order of 'install --reinstall', I should not have believed this source without checking it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-reinstall-a-package-using-apt-get-command/ |
| 21:33.26 | freemangordon | hehe |
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| 21:34.29 | gogogogo | it takes me a while to make a pastebin.. |
| 21:34.40 | gogogogo | cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list gives me 5 lines |
| 21:34.46 | gogogogo | deb + url |
| 21:35.47 | freemangordon | sure, what are those lines? |
| 21:36.12 | gogogogo | 3 of them start with "https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/" then add "freemantle/ssu/apps", "freemantle/ssu/mr0", "freemantle1.2/ovi/" |
| 21:37.14 | gogogogo | then the 2 last start with "repository.maemo.org" and add "/extras/ fremantle-1.3 free non-free" |
| 21:37.30 | freemangordon | ok, please run apt-get update and pastebin the result |
| 21:37.31 | gogogogo | and the last "/extras-devel fremantle-1.3 free non-free" |
| 21:37.35 | gogogogo | ok |
| 21:38.24 | gogogogo | it's downloading a lot of things |
| 21:39.29 | gogogogo | it's downloading a 10MB file at 15kb/s... |
| 21:39.37 | gogogogo | it will take a while, sorry :( |
| 21:40.01 | freemangordon | well, maybe you should disable extras-devel |
| 21:40.04 | freemangordon | :) |
| 21:40.14 | freemangordon | not now ofc, it is a bit late |
| 21:40.32 | gogogogo | ehehe |
| 21:40.42 | gogogogo | the scarlet letter N |
| 21:40.56 | freemangordon | why so slow? |
| 21:41.05 | freemangordon | are you on 2G? |
| 21:41.09 | gogogogo | italian connections |
| 21:41.18 | gogogogo | no, wi-fi :) |
| 21:41.24 | gogogogo | you can cry |
| 21:41.32 | freemangordon | omg |
| 21:41.37 | gogogogo | ahahahah |
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| 21:42.42 | gogogogo | well.. sometimes I get to 50-60 KB/s |
| 21:43.00 | freemangordon | nice :) |
| 21:43.13 | gogogogo | you aren't serious, are you? XD |
| 21:44.20 | gogogogo | mobile connections can be faster in town |
| 21:45.19 | gogogogo | 50% :))))) |
| 21:45.30 | gogogogo | 5mins left |
| 21:47.27 | gogogogo | connection boost time. I'm getting 60KB/s now |
| 21:47.47 | gogogogo | ok. Done. |
| 21:50.16 | gogogogo | and there it is http://pastebin.com/1wiDiSrr |
| 21:51.18 | freemangordon | according to speedtest.net (which is heavily CPU-bound) my N900 downloads with 6Mbps and uploads with 10Mbps |
| 21:51.43 | freemangordon | gogogogo: are you root? |
| 21:51.47 | gogogogo | yes |
| 21:52.03 | freemangordon | do you have hildon-application-manager opened? |
| 21:52.11 | gogogogo | no |
| 21:52.24 | freemangordon | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 21:52.35 | gogogogo | I know! |
| 21:52.37 | gogogogo | :\ |
| 21:53.00 | freemangordon | is there any process listed after "ps | grep apt"? |
| 21:53.21 | gogogogo | is that a command? |
| 21:53.25 | freemangordon | yes |
| 21:54.11 | gogogogo | I have 2 processes |
| 21:54.17 | freemangordon | apt-worker? |
| 21:54.23 | gogogogo | yes |
| 21:54.43 | gogogogo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.46 | freemangordon | well, you should wait until they finish |
| 21:55.06 | gogogogo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.07 | freemangordon | and run "apt-get update" again |
| 21:55.19 | gogogogo | I'm not installing anything at all right now |
| 21:55.24 | gogogogo | I'm going to wait forever |
| 21:55.46 | freemangordon | well, I *think* we can safely kill those |
| 21:56.03 | freemangordon | Pali: is it safe to kill apt-worker on non-cssu device? |
| 21:56.17 | gogogogo | 2493 root 2088 s grep apt |
| 21:56.20 | gogogogo | ? |
| 21:56.24 | freemangordon | good |
| 21:56.26 | gogogogo | I already killed it, I hope so |
| 21:56.37 | freemangordon | now do "apt-get update" |
| 21:56.50 | Pali | freemangordon: if you kill both HAM & apt-worked it could be safe |
| 21:57.09 | gogogogo | let me disable extra-devels first |
| 21:57.14 | freemangordon | HAM does not work (you we believe gogogogo), only the background update |
| 21:57.21 | freemangordon | gogogogo: nooo |
| 21:57.27 | Pali | what can happen is only inconsistant state, like killing apt-get |
| 21:57.28 | freemangordon | apt-worker will start again |
| 21:57.56 | freemangordon | Pali: ok |
| 21:58.12 | gogogogo | I'm going to apt-get update again |
| 21:58.22 | gogogogo | I disabled extra-devel |
| 21:58.26 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW do you follow pulseaudio-nokia development? |
| 21:58.32 | freemangordon | gogogogo: ok |
| 21:58.44 | freemangordon | make sure there are no apt-worker processes |
| 21:59.10 | gogogogo | ps | grep apt? |
| 21:59.12 | Pali | not too much |
| 21:59.19 | freemangordon | gogogogo: yes |
| 21:59.41 | gogogogo | ps | grep apt -----> 2624 root 2088 s grep apt |
| 21:59.43 | gogogogo | is that ok? |
| 22:00.02 | freemangordon | yes |
| 22:00.28 | gogogogo | apt-get update was launched |
| 22:01.11 | gogogogo | "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" |
| 22:01.27 | gogogogo | nice from apt-get itself |
| 22:01.37 | gogogogo | nice from apt-get update* itself |
| 22:02.01 | freemangordon | could you pastebin the output? |
| 22:02.10 | gogogogo | ok, just hold on a minute |
| 22:03.55 | gogogogo | http://pastebin.com/WAChm22h |
| 22:05.03 | freemangordon | gogogogo: ok, now try to install flashplayer |
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| 22:05.13 | freemangordon | (whatever the package name is) |
| 22:05.22 | gogogogo | from apt-get install adobe-flashplayer? |
| 22:05.43 | freemangordon | "apt-get install --reinstall adobe-flashplayer=3.0.0.87+0m5" |
| 22:05.52 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:06.21 | freemangordon | type 'Y' and press enter when asked |
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| 22:07.25 | gogogogo | After this operation, 1491kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? |
| 22:07.35 | freemangordon | y |
| 22:07.38 | freemangordon | and enter |
| 22:07.39 | gogogogo | I'm going to type "Y" |
| 22:07.59 | gogogogo | ... and |
| 22:08.03 | gogogogo | ABORT |
| 22:08.07 | freemangordon | omg |
| 22:08.41 | freemangordon | anything in dmesg log? |
| 22:08.54 | freemangordon | anything suspicious that is |
| 22:09.44 | freemangordon | gogogogo: well I see 2 options from here 1) reflash 2) run strace against apt-get to see what exactly aborts |
| 22:09.47 | gogogogo | god himself was popping a pimple of his and swore to himself. |
| 22:10.06 | gogogogo | "strace against apt-get" ? |
| 22:10.25 | freemangordon | yep, "strace apt-get install --reinstall adobe-flash-player=3.0.0.87+0m5" |
| 22:10.30 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:10.36 | freemangordon | but you need to install strace first |
| 22:10.38 | freemangordon | :) |
| 22:10.44 | gogogogo | ahahahah |
| 22:10.47 | freemangordon | gogogogo: or... |
| 22:10.48 | gogogogo | you're kidding me |
| 22:11.01 | freemangordon | you can wget and dpkg -i the package |
| 22:11.44 | gogogogo | sorry, I need you to spell it out for me :\ |
| 22:12.14 | freemangordon | ~wget |
| 22:12.14 | infobot | methinks wget is an excellent file retrieval utility (HTTP and FTP) with many options, or the command `apt-get install wget wget-ssl`, or virtual bacon |
| 22:12.36 | gogogogo | I can't install wget either |
| 22:12.37 | freemangordon | you can download the needed fil with wget |
| 22:12.45 | freemangordon | yes, you can |
| 22:12.57 | freemangordon | download it on your ps and scp it to the device |
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| 22:13.03 | freemangordon | s/ps/pc |
| 22:13.24 | gogogogo | I don't know what that means :( I'm sorry |
| 22:13.28 | freemangordon | or connect the device in mass-storage mode |
| 22:13.33 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:13.54 | gogogogo | what then? |
| 22:14.02 | gogogogo | Am I going to download a .deb file somewhere? |
| 22:16.15 | freemangordon | gogogogo: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/w/wget/ |
| 22:16.31 | freemangordon | download armel .deb on your pc and copy it to n900 |
| 22:16.56 | gogogogo | done |
| 22:17.18 | freemangordon | ok, now disconnect the usb cable |
| 22:17.23 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:17.31 | freemangordon | cd to the directory you copied that .deb |
| 22:17.55 | freemangordon | and type "dpkg -i wget_1.10.2-2osso3_armel.deb" |
| 22:18.27 | gogogogo | done |
| 22:18.40 | gogogogo | no error as far as I know |
| 22:19.26 | freemangordon | ok, now you have wget |
| 22:19.27 | gogogogo | wget strace? |
| 22:19.50 | freemangordon | no |
| 22:19.57 | freemangordon | "wget http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/s/strace/strace_4.5.18-1.1%2b0m5_armel.deb" |
| 22:20.21 | gogogogo | ok. It will take some time and some eyesight loss |
| 22:20.23 | gogogogo | hold on |
| 22:20.58 | freemangordon | can't you just copy/paste? |
| 22:21.11 | freemangordon | or open that link with microb? |
| 22:21.16 | gogogogo | I'm half the way |
| 22:22.41 | gogogogo | done |
| 22:23.16 | gogogogo | it was about the time to learn a thing or two about n900 symbols. |
| 22:23.29 | freemangordon | ok, now run "strace apt-get install --reinstall adobe-flash-player=3.0.0.87+0m5" |
| 22:23.34 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:23.38 | freemangordon | it will spit lots of things |
| 22:23.49 | freemangordon | I need the last 20-30 lines |
| 22:25.08 | gogogogo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.37 | gogogogo | dpkg -i strace_4.5...? |
| 22:25.46 | freemangordon | oh, but ofc |
| 22:25.58 | gogogogo | I don't know what wget does.. |
| 22:26.07 | freemangordon | download a file :) |
| 22:26.11 | freemangordon | *downloads |
| 22:26.23 | gogogogo | and does not install it |
| 22:26.27 | freemangordon | no |
| 22:26.31 | gogogogo | ok installed, now strace + *** |
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| 22:26.34 | freemangordon | yep |
| 22:27.04 | gogogogo | it's... rampaging. |
| 22:27.13 | freemangordon | :) |
| 22:27.17 | gogogogo | and seems stuck now but I'm not sure |
| 22:27.31 | freemangordon | maybe it waits for you to type 'Y' |
| 22:27.33 | gogogogo | if I don't get /home/usr/ # it means it's not done yet |
| 22:27.37 | gogogogo | ? |
| 22:27.42 | gogogogo | oh ok |
| 22:27.59 | gogogogo | I did and it aborted again |
| 22:28.23 | gogogogo | now I will copy a bunch of lines and make a pastebin out of it |
| 22:28.34 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 22:28.59 | gogogogo | what is "strace" btw? |
| 22:29.11 | freemangordon | traces system calls |
| 22:29.27 | gogogogo | system "actions"? |
| 22:29.45 | freemangordon | system functions |
| 22:30.21 | gogogogo | what's the difference? |
| 22:31.53 | freemangordon | define actin :) |
| 22:31.56 | freemangordon | *action |
| 22:34.37 | freemangordon | WTF?!? http://pastebin.com/AhMKUeWA |
| 22:34.54 | freemangordon | seems like apt-get doesn't recognize 'Y' |
| 22:35.19 | freemangordon | that's weird |
| 22:35.33 | nox- | cant you just hit return? |
| 22:35.47 | freemangordon | same happens iiuc |
| 22:35.55 | nox- | hm |
| 22:37.19 | xes | "-y" |
| 22:37.47 | freemangordon | does apt-get accept -y? |
| 22:38.02 | freemangordon | seems like |
| 22:38.22 | nox- | can be dangerous tho |
| 22:38.54 | freemangordon | but the point is - why it doesn't like it? |
| 22:39.08 | freemangordon | from strace it is clear that it thinks 'Y' was not typed |
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| 22:39.10 | nox- | yeah thats quite strange |
| 22:40.34 | nox- | hm or was that proposing dangerous things like removing lots of packages...? |
| 22:40.43 | freemangordon | no |
| 22:40.46 | nox- | hm |
| 22:40.56 | gogogogo | I'm there |
| 22:41.06 | freemangordon | "After this operation, 1491kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?" |
| 22:41.11 | gogogogo | I should have installed adobe-flashplayer |
| 22:41.15 | freemangordon | which is wuite normal for flashplayer |
| 22:41.24 | freemangordon | gogogogo: you have it installed now |
| 22:41.48 | freemangordon | and dependencies should be in place |
| 22:42.09 | freemangordon | you may try to install something by using HAM |
| 22:42.12 | freemangordon | ~ham |
| 22:42.12 | infobot | well, ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham |
| 22:42.47 | gogogogo | what do you think was wrong with my device anyway? |
| 22:42.55 | freemangordon | nox-: so it doesn't want "Yes, do as I say" :D |
| 22:43.00 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 22:43.07 | gogogogo | I'm going to try and search for "gstreamer-tools" |
| 22:43.12 | freemangordon | and I think it is still not fixed |
| 22:43.26 | freemangordon | try to "apt-get install gstreamer-tools" |
| 22:43.28 | gogogogo | flashing would be smart, wouldn't it? |
| 22:43.30 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:43.36 | freemangordon | oh, wait |
| 22:43.41 | gogogogo | ok |
| 22:43.48 | freemangordon | it is not gstreamer-tools iirc |
| 22:44.32 | freemangordon | gogogogo: "apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools" |
| 22:45.21 | gogogogo | really? that tutorial must be updated |
| 22:46.07 | freemangordon | well, mybe without 0.10 wil work too |
| 22:46.14 | freemangordon | *maybe |
| 22:46.22 | freemangordon | needs some sleep :) |
| 22:46.24 | gogogogo | couldn't find package |
| 22:46.33 | gogogogo | extra-devels must be up? |
| 22:46.59 | freemangordon | no |
| 22:47.31 | freemangordon | you sure you typed it correctly? |
| 22:48.06 | gogogogo | yes |
| 22:48.13 | gogogogo | I'm double-checking though |
| 22:48.25 | freemangordon | apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools |
| 22:48.25 | freemangordon | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:48.25 | freemangordon | Building dependency tree |
| 22:48.25 | freemangordon | Reading state information... Done |
| 22:48.25 | freemangordon | gstreamer0.10-tools is already the newest version. |
| 22:48.28 | arcean | it's everywhere :P http://maemo.org/packages/view/gstreamer0.10-tools/ |
| 22:48.30 | freemangordon | on my device |
| 22:48.38 | freemangordon | arcean: yeah :D |
| 22:49.06 | gogogogo | it works now, I must have mistyped |
| 22:49.27 | gogogogo | errors were encountered while processing: catorise |
| 22:49.30 | freemangordon | what?!? SDK version is newer that repo version? O.o |
| 22:49.51 | freemangordon | or rather the version in extras repo |
| 22:49.53 | gogogogo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 22:50.13 | gogogogo | was catorise to blame for all this sh*t? |
| 22:50.19 | freemangordon | try with "apt-get -f install" |
| 22:50.23 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 22:50.43 | gogogogo | it's working.. |
| 22:51.02 | gogogogo | catorise again |
| 22:51.04 | freemangordon | tell if it asks you something |
| 22:51.21 | gogogogo | no, it doesn't |
| 22:51.26 | gogogogo | same ending lines as before |
| 22:51.40 | gogogogo | before=apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools |
| 22:51.51 | freemangordon | well, you can apt-get remove --purge catorise |
| 22:52.01 | freemangordon | and install it again later |
| 22:52.02 | gogogogo | ok, gladly |
| 22:52.13 | gogogogo | it never worked for me btw |
| 22:52.56 | gogogogo | ahahaha, please kill me |
| 22:53.06 | gogogogo | [Y/n] ? ---> ABORT |
| 22:53.20 | freemangordon | dpkg -r catorise :) |
| 22:53.30 | gogogogo | I like people who don't give up |
| 22:53.32 | gogogogo | will try |
| 22:54.18 | gogogogo | I think it worked, screen went dark twice though during the operation |
| 22:54.30 | freemangordon | maybe it restarted hildon-desktop |
| 22:55.13 | freemangordon | ok, what you can do (if apt-get still refuses to install gstreamer-tools) is to: |
| 22:55.27 | gogogogo | if I understood right anytime I'm prompted to answer Y/n I will get the "Abort." error, right? |
| 22:55.33 | freemangordon | seems like |
| 22:55.47 | freemangordon | no idea why that error |
| 22:55.52 | gogogogo | I think it worked |
| 22:56.05 | freemangordon | does it? |
| 22:56.29 | freemangordon | btw, what exactly worked? |
| 22:56.44 | gogogogo | apt-get install gstreamer0.10-tools |
| 22:56.58 | freemangordon | did it ask you Y/n? |
| 22:57.30 | gogogogo | no, it suggested that I did apt-get autoremove for some unneccessary files but that asked Y/n |
| 22:57.36 | gogogogo | and I again killed a fetus |
| 22:57.48 | freemangordon | can't parse |
| 22:58.14 | gogogogo | do you believe that if I'm going to reflash my phone with the same exact image I'm going to get the same problem? |
| 22:58.42 | freemangordon | no |
| 22:59.03 | freemangordon | but you'd rather try to fix it first |
| 22:59.06 | gogogogo | this error came later, right? |
| 22:59.28 | gogogogo | oh I'm never managing to, if you have no idea how am I supposed to do? |
| 22:59.52 | freemangordon | gogogogo: I have no ide because I have no data :) |
| 22:59.56 | freemangordon | *idea |
| 23:00.14 | gogogogo | I can hand you all you ask |
| 23:00.57 | freemangordon | gogogogo: ok, back to gst, do: |
| 23:01.01 | freemangordon | wget http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk_free_armel/gstreamer0.10-tools/0.10.25-0maemo4+0m5/ |
| 23:01.05 | freemangordon | oh, wait |
| 23:01.21 | freemangordon | wget http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/g/gstreamer0.10/gstreamer0.10-tools_0.10.25-0maemo4+0m5_armel.deb |
| 23:01.27 | freemangordon | that one |
| 23:01.34 | freemangordon | and then dpkg -i it |
| 23:02.23 | freemangordon | gogogogo: re further fixing - it is a bit late here and I need to have some sleep |
| 23:02.38 | freemangordon | will continue tomorrow |
| 23:03.08 | freemangordon | in the meanwhile you may want to install syslog |
| 23:03.15 | freemangordon | and check it after reboot for errors |
| 23:04.22 | gogogogo | I already have gstreamer0.10-tools, do I need to wget it again? |
| 23:04.34 | gogogogo | and okay, of course, you've been way more kind than you had to :) |
| 23:04.58 | freemangordon | gogogogo: oh, no, seems I misunderstood you |
| 23:05.13 | freemangordon | I thogh that it failed to install gstreamer tools |
| 23:05.19 | gogogogo | it made it :) |
| 23:05.25 | freemangordon | great |
| 23:05.38 | freemangordon | so, start using HAM, not apt-get |
| 23:05.57 | freemangordon | if HAM does not fail then you don;t need to reflash |
| 23:06.12 | gogogogo | ok |
| 23:06.25 | gogogogo | I will install syslog then? |
| 23:08.50 | freemangordon | you can't do it from HAM, you should either apt-get it ot wget/dpkg -i it :) |
| 23:09.11 | gogogogo | so I won't, or I need it for debugging? |
| 23:10.08 | freemangordon | well, if things work in HAM, there's no need for debugging |
| 23:10.26 | gogogogo | we just don't know the abortion issue |
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