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| 08:36.41 | capsule | hello |
| 08:37.03 | Sicelo | hi |
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| 08:50.45 | Sicelo | freemangordon: any idea where i can get sources for libglib2.0-0=2.24.1-1maemo1+0cssu0? |
| 08:50.57 | Sicelo | or anyone else who might know |
| 08:51.37 | NIN101 | maybe here? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/glib/activities |
| 08:52.52 | Sicelo | i'm trying to troubleshoot fuelpad. when trying to generate reports on my device with this version, i get segfault. it would appear tthat fuelpad was compiled against 2.23. |
| 08:52.58 | Sicelo | let me look NIN101 |
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| 09:11.59 | Sicelo | got it :) |
| 09:12.02 | Sicelo | http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/source/g/glib2.0/ |
| 09:14.26 | peetah | Anyone having a solution for the Modest TLS connection issue (POODLE related issue) (cf 11 hours ago for details)? |
| 09:16.58 | peetah | I notice that the same happens with the TTRSS reader used with MeeCoLay: could they both share the same library to initiate secure connections ? |
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| 09:21.53 | NIN101 | peetah: well, I suppose maemo's openssl supports TLS |
| 09:22.08 | Wizzup | It's a rather old openssl though |
| 09:22.09 | NIN101 | peetah: therefore, taking a look at modest's source could be helpful |
| 09:22.24 | NIN101 | maybe it simply doesn't even try TLS |
| 09:26.37 | peetah | NIN101: is it available on gitorious ? |
| 09:27.59 | NIN101 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest.git |
| 09:28.47 | peetah | yep I just found it thanks |
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| 11:00.43 | Sicelo | hmm, now i have a non-crashing fuelpad binary, but it crashes if i run it in gdb |
| 11:01.44 | Sicelo | ok. doesn't |
| 11:23.57 | Sicelo | anyone can shed some light: why would a program crash if not build with CFLAGS=-g in configure stage? |
| 11:24.25 | Sicelo | *built |
| 11:24.26 | freemangordon | compiler bug? |
| 11:25.16 | bencoh | stack overflow/memory corruption which is only visible in some specific situation |
| 11:25.35 | bencoh | (just guessing) |
| 11:26.04 | Sicelo | weird. at least i've got a running binary now. |
| 11:26.13 | freemangordon | Sicelo: does it crash if built with -g, but symbols are stripped? |
| 11:26.48 | Sicelo | let me check.. how do you strip symbols? |
| 11:27.02 | freemangordon | strip -g :P |
| 11:27.08 | Sicelo | doesn't know these things, lol.. just poking around |
| 11:28.59 | Sicelo | at what stage shall i add that? i did ./configure CFLAGS=-g |
| 11:29.20 | Sicelo | this is in SB, bytw |
| 11:29.25 | Sicelo | *btw |
| 11:30.03 | bencoh | strip -g your-binary |
| 11:30.15 | freemangordon | naah, run strip -g on the binary, e.g.: |
| 11:30.31 | freemangordon | strip -g $CRASHING_BINARY |
| 11:32.15 | Sicelo | ah, thanks. let's see |
| 11:33.29 | freemangordon | Sicelo: if it is crashing, then you can make another build run and strip the symbols in a file. then, when you run the crashing binary in gdb and it crashes, you can load those symbols and see when it crashes |
| 11:34.13 | Sicelo | doesn't crash after stripping :-/ |
| 11:34.38 | bencoh | would have been weird |
| 11:34.40 | freemangordon | Sicelo: what are the default CFLAGS? |
| 11:36.15 | Sicelo | seems like none. i don't know if i'm just being dumb, hehe |
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| 11:38.30 | Sicelo | where do i check that? |
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| 11:41.07 | freemangordon | when you run make, you see gcc command line? |
| 11:41.28 | bencoh | you can grep CFLAGS config.log |
| 11:41.48 | freemangordon | that one too |
| 11:44.18 | Sicelo | CFLAGS='-g -O2' |
| 11:44.29 | Sicelo | that's from grepping config.log |
| 11:45.00 | Sicelo | for this i did not specify CFLAGS myself |
| 11:45.10 | bencoh | uhwait |
| 11:45.20 | bencoh | so it's already built with -g ? |
| 11:45.50 | Sicelo | yep, seems so. adds more to the crazyness of this |
| 11:46.02 | bencoh | what does make say ? |
| 11:46.07 | Sicelo | apt-get source fuelpad ... that's what i'm playing with |
| 11:46.08 | bencoh | do you actually see the -g ? |
| 11:46.46 | freemangordon | it is because of the -O2 thingie ;) |
| 11:46.52 | freemangordon | (the crash) |
| 11:48.10 | bencoh | (reminds me of a bug that triggered with -O1/-O2 but not -O3, on arm but not on x86*) |
| 11:48.17 | Sicelo | what's the O2 about? |
| 11:48.23 | bencoh | optim level |
| 11:49.27 | Sicelo | how does specifying CFLAGS=-g 'fix' the O2 issue? |
| 11:49.33 | freemangordon | bencoh: reminds me of Qt 4.7.4 in CSSU :) |
| 11:49.48 | freemangordon | Sicelo: no optimization at all |
| 11:50.08 | Sicelo | i see. interesting |
| 11:51.11 | bencoh | does it crash with CFLAGS="-O0" ? |
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| 11:51.52 | bencoh | (it should) |
| 11:52.02 | freemangordon | it should not IMO |
| 11:52.16 | freemangordon | as CFLAGS = -g implies -O0 |
| 11:53.47 | bencoh | hmm right it didnt crash with -g, mybad |
| 11:53.51 | bencoh | :) |
| 11:54.20 | bencoh | (short-term memory, where are you ? ^^) |
| 11:55.11 | Sicelo | today i've learned a couple of things. great use of time :) |
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| 12:17.14 | bencoh | hmm, the sb thumb toolchain looks a bit like a pain :/ |
| 12:17.43 | bencoh | especially the binary linaro compiler part |
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| 13:43.26 | bencoh | freemangordon: I know I asked a few months ago, but ... to move from cssu-stable to cssu-thumb, should one open the thumb .install, or change sources.list and apt-get update && upgrade, or some other way ? |
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| 13:44.36 | freemangordon | bencoh: opening thumb .install file should be enough |
| 13:46.43 | bencoh | thx |
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| 14:18.46 | bencoh | hm ... is backupmenu supposed to play nice with u-boot ? |
| 14:18.55 | Sicelo | yes |
| 14:20.07 | bencoh | why does it try to install bootmenu ? |
| 14:20.41 | Sicelo | hmm, i don't remember it having that dependency |
| 14:21.03 | bencoh | Depends: bootmenu, tar-gnu, i2c-tools, mtd-utils, libacl1 |
| 14:21.13 | Sicelo | i can see |
| 14:21.15 | bencoh | both version 1.2.0-2 and 1.2.0-1 |
| 14:21.40 | Sicelo | wait.. yes, i have bootmenu |
| 14:22.10 | Pali | because bootmenu show on screen menu where you can choose which userspace to start (maemo, backupmenu, ...) |
| 14:22.41 | bencoh | hmm |
| 14:22.54 | bencoh | it gets loaded from uboot ? |
| 14:22.59 | Pali | no |
| 14:23.00 | bencoh | and before linux kernel ? |
| 14:23.07 | Pali | backupmenu has nothing with uboot |
| 14:23.10 | Sicelo | bencoh: it is multiboot which has never been recommended ;) |
| 14:23.10 | Pali | it is shell script |
| 14:23.32 | bencoh | sounds ... obscure :) |
| 14:23.58 | Pali | backupmenu is started as init daemon :) |
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| 14:30.37 | freemangordon | bencoh: make sure to install the one from extras-devel |
| 14:30.54 | freemangordon | the one in extras doesn;t play nicely on cssu |
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| 14:46.46 | kerio | backupmenu uses bootmenu |
| 14:46.57 | kerio | which is a really weird kludge installed in /sbin/preinit |
| 14:47.22 | kerio | because we can't expect normal users to install uboot without screwing it up |
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| 15:04.31 | Nokiabot | Hi kerio |
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