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06:20.14todd1so, I've got this used N900. of course, it's got a broken charger port. though, it connects if twisted in the right way. does that mean that just reinforcement is required, or will I have to re-solder it?
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07:07.21Luke-Jrtodd1: what's the difference? reinforcement is best with solder anyway <.<
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07:11.56todd1Luke-Jr: I mean: is it best to remove it from the socket (is that very hard?) to ensure proper connection, or do you think I can just "make it stick" with additional solder?
07:12.18Luke-Jrtodd1: I wouldn't advise removing it, but I'm no hardware expert
07:18.12todd1do you know where the contact is? it's hard to see from the pictures (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920)
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07:20.37todd1my contact is loose at the port side
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10:35.22zGrrmoin :)
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15:44.57SiceloN900 having problems with my work Wi-Fi is now becoming a big problem. wpa_supplicant works, but the battery wouldn't last any reasonable time with it
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16:00.49Capsulehello
16:01.14Capsulei am back about Nokia N900 flashing ...
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16:02.31Capsuleafter check all english tuto (i found French' one :p ) , youtube video and download last EMMC '.bin
16:03.18Capsulei will try with lot of emotion
16:03.21Capsuleand nothing ...
16:03.38freemangordonCapsule: "nothing"?
16:03.48Capsuleyes
16:03.56freemangordonelaborate please
16:03.56Capsulei install flasher
16:04.17freemangordonwhat is the output from the flasher?
16:04.32Capsule2 sec , i write all in same line :p
16:04.39freemangordonpastebin it
16:04.58freemangordonotherwise mods may become angry at you
16:05.43CapsulexD
16:09.59Capsulenothing when i push "u" on phone , i start $flasher -F RX52####PR.bin -f from terminal ( i was download it from http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/ , flasher_3.12.1_amd64.deb for x64 bit) , after it told me " Suitable USB device not found, waiting... " , i put usb cable on phone (without start it) and i press "u" => nokia on screen of phone , but nothing on terminal ...
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16:10.40jimbowhi
16:11.29freemangordonCapsule: you need flasher 3.5 ;)
16:11.36freemangordon3.12 is for n9/50
16:11.43Capsuleho
16:11.48Capsulebut
16:11.58jimbowIs it possible to turn on app names on n900 homescreen?
16:12.24freemangordon~cssu
16:12.24infobot[cssu] http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
16:13.28Capsulefreemangordon , thx , i will try to find it , before i try  but only x32 bit , and it didn't work :(
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16:14.19freemangordonCapsule: I am on ubuntu 14.04 64bit and it works ;)
16:14.28Capsulehmmm
16:14.40Capsuleapt-get install flasher-3.5 ?
16:15.07freemangordonno, dpkg -i $FLASHER_DEB
16:15.23freemangordonthat one (i guess) http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/flasher_3.12.1_i386.deb
16:15.29freemangordonoops
16:15.34freemangordonnot that one
16:15.37CapsulexD
16:15.43freemangordonthat one http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb
16:15.50Capsulebetter :) thx
16:15.57freemangordonwhat is your distro?
16:16.04Capsulesame to u
16:16.07Capsuleubuntu
16:16.09Capsulelast one
16:16.28freemangordonif you click on the .deb software center should install it as well
16:17.34freemangordonbut it is better to use dpkg
16:17.59freemangordonthough you'll have to satisfy dependencies by hand (with dpkg)
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16:19.08Capsulei can't use dpkg
16:19.31freemangordonwhy?
16:19.32Capsuleit download on software center
16:19.57freemangordonCapsule: first uninstall version 3.12
16:20.10Capsule<PROTECTED>
16:20.31Capsulewow
16:20.48Capsuleat the nice moment :D it talk me about installation :D
16:23.20Capsulei didn't find it :(
16:24.14freemangordonCapsule: open a terminal
16:24.31freemangordonwrite "dpkg -l | grep flasher" without quotes
16:24.44freemangordonyou'll get the package name
16:25.38freemangordonthen write "sudo dpkg -- purge $THE_NAME_FROM_THE_ABOVE_COMMAND"
16:26.05freemangordongo to the directory you've downloaded flasher 3.5 .deb
16:26.08Capsule:D
16:26.24freemangordonwrite "sudo dpkg -i $THE_NAME_OF_THE_DEB"
16:26.56freemangordonsatisfy the missing dependencies by using apt-get
16:27.08Capsule:)
16:27.15freemangordonI guess the easiest way will be to simply install wine :)
16:27.26freemangordonit will bring a whole lot of 386 libs
16:27.26Capsulei have it
16:27.39freemangordonthen you shouldn't have missing dependencies
16:27.44Capsulebut lot of problem for game , so i stop to use it ^^
16:28.08freemangordonwell, IDA works with wine, that is enough for me :)
16:29.39Capsule:)
16:30.03Capsuleabout $THE_NAME  , it's $flasher ??
16:30.23freemangordonwhat?
16:30.43freemangordonfor which command?
16:30.49freemangordon"dpkg -i"?
16:30.56Capsule-- purge
16:31.20freemangordonread once again what I wrote, please
16:31.46freemangordonor better pastebin the result of "dpkg -l | grep flasher"
16:31.54Capsuleokok i go check translation :p
16:32.03freemangordonno, don't, do ^^^
16:32.21freemangordonI'll give you the exact command
16:35.14Capsulehttp://pastebin.com/3uR0m7Ga
16:36.34freemangordonCapsule: there is no space between -- and purge
16:36.48Capsule-____-
16:36.53Capsule;)
16:36.58freemangordonalso, the command should be "sudo dpkg --purge flasher"
16:37.26Capsulewithout "$" befor flasher ?
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16:37.31Capsulebefore
16:37.40freemangordonyou tell me
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16:38.15freemangordon$ means a variable
16:38.20freemangordonin short
16:38.37freemangordonin shell scripts that is
16:39.07freemangordon"$THE_NAME_FROM_THE_ABOVE_COMMAND" == "flasher" in your case
16:39.29Capsuledpkg: error : database dpkg status database is locked by another process
16:39.45freemangordonman, come on, close that software center :(
16:39.58Capsulei start with this
16:39.59CapsulexD
16:40.56freemangordonyour next command is "sudo dpkg -i maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb"
16:41.12freemangordonmake sure you're in the same directory you've downloaded it
16:41.35Capsulebut after close , same think
16:41.36Capsuleok ok :) , i looking on $top but nothing :/
16:41.44Capsulei will try to reboot i think
16:41.56CapsuleLOOL
16:42.03freemangordondon't
16:42.08freemangordonthis is not windows
16:42.17Capsuleinstall of Flasher3.5 in standby XD
16:42.20Capsulesry
16:42.58Capsulebetter :)
16:43.08Capsuleperfect :D
16:43.12Capsulei love it
16:44.22freemangordondid it install?
16:44.42Capsule:D i install it
16:44.57todd1Capsule: sometime you've got time: http://linuxcommand.org/ :)
16:45.17freemangordonyeah, might help
16:47.17Capsulethx todd1
16:47.17Capsule... grey and purple , gnu for configuration but what i do ? lol
16:48.05Capsulecan i  "ctrl-c" ?
16:48.41Capsulelol
16:49.04Capsulepardon about this , i am too emotional :D
16:49.36CapsuleOOOOOKKKK
16:49.48Capsulenow i can try again :D
16:52.10Capsulei hope not hell for my phone :) (3 month for receveid it from singapore , first one didn't start .. ) like children before christmas day , when they wait their present :)
16:52.56freemangordonthere is no way to brick n900
16:53.35freemangordonthe worst you can do is to ruin the CAL partition, but you can't do that with flasher
16:53.42freemangordon(iirc)
16:55.17Capsule:)
16:55.39Capsuleonly software :)
16:57.10APic=)
16:59.07Capsulebut about batterie lol
16:59.21Capsulethey fly to fast
16:59.27Capsulebattery
16:59.54Capsulewho are you freemangordon  ?
17:00.02Capsulepassionate and amateur of maemo ?
17:00.13Capsuleor you work for it ?
17:00.51Capsulework for compagny ?
17:02.07Capsuleor just nice minder in gottam city :p
17:02.25freemangordonCapsule: well, who am I... Lets say I really like my N900 :)
17:02.44Capsulehéhé
17:02.54freemangordonyou can check my signature on TMO
17:03.04CapsuleTMO ?
17:03.09freemangordontalk.maemo.org
17:03.11Capsulelike whois ?
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17:05.47Capsule:)
17:07.50todd1I see there is N900 features implemented in Linux 3.16. is it customary to use the new kernels at the N900, or is a compiler(er)'s toy?
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17:08.46Capsule:D
17:09.13Capsulehttp://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=35969 , "enchanté" ! :)
17:09.21freemangordontodd1: 3.16 (and newer) have almost everything n900 working
17:09.38freemangordonthough maemo needs a couple of tweaks to be able to boot it
17:09.42Capsulewhy i beleive you from US lol
17:09.55Capsulewhy i beleived you from US lol
17:10.01freemangordonno idea
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17:10.12Capsule:p
17:10.23Capsuleabout "central-europe"
17:10.30Capsulefrom emmc version
17:10.38freemangordontodd1: check on elinux, there is git tree you can clone and have even SGX working
17:11.18freemangordontodd1: http://elinux.org/N900
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17:11.44todd1also, the modem stuff, is it able to operate the modem on it's own, or is it still just interfacing the binary Rapuyama?
17:11.46freemangordonthe last I booted (didn;t try newer) was 3.17-rcSOMETHING
17:12.03freemangordonit is still just interfacing
17:12.39todd1ah. but you surely compile this yourself? is all the info at eLinux?
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17:13.03freemangordonwhich info? what works and what not? sure
17:13.13freemangordonjust open that link ^^^
17:14.35freemangordonBTW in 3.18 there should be massive improvement related to power management, at least on what I saw on linux-omap ML
17:16.23todd1ah. nice. so the drivers are being ported from Nokia's custom 2.6.28 to mainline? because they've surely released the code?
17:17.04todd1and, what can the Nokia driver do? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcwNzY
17:17.58freemangordontodd1: the same what it does in 2.6.28 kernel
17:18.22freemangordonI was able to get GPS fix with it (with AGPS working). Under maemo that is
17:19.18freemangordonBTW all the code in Nokia 2.6.28 kernel is FOSS
17:21.04todd1I've been too lazy to look into what Linux-libre is flencing, but I've taken that the GPLv2 Linux can actually be shipped with binaries, as that project testifies
17:22.10todd1is there a wiki on what of maemo needs modding?
17:22.17freemangordonsure
17:22.23freemangordon~fptf
17:22.23infoboti heard fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308
17:23.18freemangordontodd1: you're a coder?
17:23.47todd1from time to time :)
17:23.51freemangordonhehe
17:24.12freemangordonanyway, I have to leave. night guys
17:24.18todd1is the workforce behind these recent mainline N900 features targeting N900 or Neo900?
17:24.28freemangordonI'd say both
17:24.49todd1freemangordon: thanks man :)
17:25.26todd1g'night
17:25.37todd1Capsule: you bougth your phone at eBay?
17:25.52todd1one of these "brand new"
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17:31.46Capsuleyes todd1
17:32.01Capsuleabout ebay
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17:33.09Capsuleafter "brand new" i not remember , but i don't think , before it's very cheap , and other china seller sell this same price than 2009 lol
17:33.26Capsulenot "before" but because
17:33.27Capsulelol
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17:34.51stryngsI love it when SysAdmins be like "Our site is very secure!",
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17:35.17todd1yeah, I don't think there are many new N900s in existance
17:35.43Capsule:)
17:36.16todd1the "new" N900s at eBay are refurbs, I've heard. the IRC logs indicate that as well
17:36.47Capsulei didn't think , the nokia box is blue ôÖ not black :) and it is not used , with plastic on screen ^^
17:36.48todd1stryngs: from an external network? to their servers?
17:37.15Capsulewhat is refurbs ?
17:37.25stryngsJust in general todd1
17:38.06todd1refurbished. it means someone's fixed up something broken (and most likely used)
17:38.21todd1stryngs: :)
17:38.24Capsuleyes
17:38.32Capsulenumber on phone -____-
17:38.39Capsuleand ot of music
17:38.43todd1haha
17:38.48Capsule^^
17:38.58Capsulebut like new ...
17:39.10Capsuleperfect touch and screen
17:39.12todd1Capsule: I was considering one. it's working okay so far?
17:39.32Capsule:)
17:39.46Capsulemy phone work , but i will try to flash him
17:40.00Capsulebecause lot of application don't run ...
17:40.05Capsuleabout libqt4
17:40.12todd1but ... all the good music? :(
17:40.17todd1also, I presume you've read stuff, but anyways: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup
17:40.20Capsule:D
17:40.32Capsulecommercial music
17:40.47Capsulebut lot of eminem song ;)
17:41.31todd1bah, you go, flash it
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17:46.59Capsuletodd1 , first phone i receveid by post didn"t work , i send back it . 3 month for captur it :D
17:48.08todd1:/ yeah. I kindof think it's great that someone refurbishes N900s, but it's a bit risky as well
17:49.20Capsulein box , with nokia num and plastic around , like new one .. just when you look inside sofware you can know it refurb
17:49.50Capsuleas new one
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18:05.43todd1anyone familiar with the USB charger?
18:06.13todd1*port. mine is nearly broken, it's a used phone.
18:07.12todd1I've seen the threads, but I'd love to ask a couple of questions to someone with experience :)
18:07.16nox-~usbfix
18:07.16infoboti guess usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt
18:07.49nox-oh well i didnt try is myself, my port still works
18:07.55nox-s/is/it/
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18:12.00todd1mine is not working in normal position, but connects if I bend it so that the back of the port is pushed towards the PBC. so, the port connects at the back of the port?
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18:24.51nox-this shows the pins:  http://www.dx.com/p/diy-micro-usb-5-pin-female-smt-socket-connector-silver-20-piece-pack-134132
18:26.47todd1hard to replace with one of those? or is something like this necessary:? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=870017&postcount=27
18:28.52Capsuledo you know if 'full batterie" for phone before flashing , it's for sofware information  , or just for avoid a bad situation during install of EMMC ?!
18:29.58nox-Capsule, its the flashing itself afaik that needs enough battery charge
18:30.49nox-todd1, i dont know more that was is posted on that thread myself...
18:31.57todd1thanks anyways. pins help
18:33.26nox-np
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18:37.40Capsuleokey thx nox-  !
18:39.20nox-Capsule, the n900 is kinda unusual(?) in that it needs the cpu's help to charge the battery so it needs to boot first
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18:41.20kerionox-: it actually happens for a fuckton of phones and embedded devices
18:41.28kerioespecially those that only have a musb port for charging
18:41.37Sicelonox-: not really.. most other phones need the phone to be on to a certain 'level
18:42.38sixwheeledbeast~actdead
18:42.39Siceloremember Nokia N-Gage .. if its C drive was full, it is bricked. that was becuase then it couldn't boot, and you couldnt charge it either
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18:52.58nox-ouch
18:53.41nox-kerio, hm yeah maybe its common for phones, still doesnt make it sound very wise
18:53.52kerioprobably not
18:53.55Capsuleit didn't want to be flashed !
18:53.55keriobut alas
18:54.01timelesskerio: ping
18:54.02kerioit's not a big problem if the battery is actually removable
18:54.07keriotimeless: pong!
18:54.08timelessdo you know what the default shell is on Sailfish?
18:54.10nox-thats true i guess
18:54.11Capsulewhen i press "u" , nothing
18:54.14timelessis it busybox? :)
18:54.14kerioi don't
18:54.18keriowtf is sailfish
18:54.19timelessknow anyone who would?
18:54.28timelesshttps://sailfishos.org/
18:54.43nox-busybox uses bash code too?
18:55.09keriooh the jolla shit
18:55.22todd1afair (read), no, busybox doesn't
18:55.29timelesskerio: yeah, jolla
18:55.33nox-ah ok
18:55.39timelessnox-: no, busybox isn't bash
18:55.45nox-ok, good
18:55.52timelessit has its own sh (which you could turn off and replace w/ bash if you were so inclined)
18:55.58timelessapparently Tizen did that :o
18:56.08nox-was thinking of the recent bash holes...
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18:57.01Capsulefreemangordon, :( nothing when i press ''u' key .. only 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.'
18:57.30kerioCapsule: did you remove the battery
18:57.35kerioalso did you blacklist cdc_phonet
18:57.40kerioalso why am i not using question marks
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18:58.05Capsule???!
18:58.14Capsulei will go to translate what u tell
18:58.16Capsule1 sec
19:00.06Capsuleokey
19:00.16Capsulenot , my battery is full
19:00.19todd1though, if it isn't implemented similarly: either bb dev discovered the holes and was a douche and did not notify bash devs, or he has done something similar and dangerous, or he (it's one dude, no?) has by accident just not enabled them. which is more probable?
19:00.24Capsulein the phone
19:00.33timelessnox-: you aren't alone
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19:00.43timelesshttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CIyUoZEi
19:00.52timelessnox-: ^ that's my draft message about phone platforms
19:02.41kerioCapsule: once you've started flasher on your pc
19:02.45keriodisconnect n900
19:02.47kerioremove battery
19:02.49keriohold u
19:02.53kerioplug in n900
19:02.55kerioput in battery
19:05.22Capsuleare u sure kerio ...
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19:10.43nox-timeless, nice :)
19:10.54timelessadds WebOS (bourne, not bash)
19:15.01timelessnox-: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/09/shellshock-bug-spells-trouble-for-web-security/comment-page-1/#comment-295545
19:15.29inztimeless, jolla has bash as /bin/sh
19:15.36timelessinz: awesome
19:15.47Capsulenothing kerio ..
19:15.58Capsulejust red light
19:16.01Capsulein begin
19:16.32Capsulebut all time it stop to "Suitable USB device not found, waiting."
19:16.39inztimeless, and still vulnerable
19:16.46timelessinz: of course :)
19:16.57timelessto be fair, my Mac is still vulnerable :)
19:17.01timelessinz: how's life?
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19:20.05CapsuleKERIO !!
19:20.25Capsulesry for keylock ,
19:20.38kerioNO PROBLEM MAN
19:20.44Capsulemy phone make reset
19:21.17Capsulenothing in my unbuntu terminal , i plug N900 and start it for see
19:21.32Capsuleand it's configuration start menu
19:22.58drathirbtw using correct flasher?
19:23.16Capsuleyes ,
19:23.37drathirand easy that flasher is really smart...
19:23.41Capsulefreemangordon help me to take last version
19:23.47Capsulefor my os
19:24.10drathircan i ask which os used?
19:24.32Capsuleit no reset -__- just ask me date and hours ..
19:24.38todd1unbuntu, it seems
19:24.49Capsuleyes
19:25.41drathirdmesg
19:26.00drathirfrom console detect connection of device?
19:26.10Capsuleno
19:26.23nox-https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/514991873275207680
19:26.58nox-(no bash in freebsd base)
19:27.14Capsuleflasher start nice
19:27.40inztimeless, same old, same job, same wife, and so on :)
19:27.41Capsulebut my phone is never detected
19:27.46SiceloCapsule: paste the output ... pastebin somewhere
19:27.50timelessinz: that's good
19:27.51inztimeless, you?
19:27.51Capsuleok
19:28.02drathirnox-: really freebsd not update of bash?
19:28.56drathirCapsule: flasher run by root?
19:29.14Capsulehttp://pastebin.com/MaD8vqeD
19:29.15nox-drathir, if you want bash on freebsd you have to install it from ports/packages
19:29.36Capsuleyes
19:29.40Capsulesudo su
19:29.43Capsulebefore
19:29.48drathirnox-: but mean even at port is updated one version?
19:30.00nox-drathir, the port was updated, sure
19:30.28drathirnox-: than wth with that post? thats mystery  for me ^^
19:31.13nox-drathir, the aws image doesnt include bash id say
19:31.34drathirnox-: "good" reason to kick up2date os which one even dont have like You say bash in base dependencies...
19:31.50nox-indeed
19:32.05todd1now you go laugh with them as well
19:33.08drathir!pastebin
19:33.24drathir!badpastebin
19:33.32Capsule?
19:34.17drathirCapsule: only captcha ;p
19:35.03Capsulewhat is captcha?
19:38.15drathiris word confirmation at pastebin for ppl using tor...
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19:38.45ecc3gwow... the number of shellshock probes increased... sigh.
19:38.54ecc3gneed to do some more logging.
19:39.28drathirin that case, but captcha is wide used for word/image/sound confirmation to acess the resources...
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19:41.05Capsuleokok
19:42.35drathirCapsule: at lsmod checked no modules loaded?
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19:48.47Palicmd32 is vulnerable too!
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19:49.08todd1no fkin way?!
19:49.09Palihttp://imgur.com/cTD5b5D
19:49.19Pali:D:D
19:49.31todd1hahahaha
19:49.33nox-hahaha
19:50.00bencoh:D
19:51.39jaskalol
19:52.12APic*gg*
19:54.01todd1timeless: guess you would have to update your bin :_
19:54.29timelesstodd1: since it's a blog comment, i can't really do that, i left a reply
19:54.32timeless(to myself)
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20:15.34Capsulebye bye
20:15.41Capsulei will try to flash it later
20:16.04Capsuleas always :D
20:16.12Capsulegood night/day for u
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22:35.31dirtydevilhey guys, cant flash my n900. stuck with uboot, not able to enter Download mode either. Please can anyone help?
22:36.39dirtydevilI tried to search for flasher for Ubuntu but I guess they removed it from the website. Does anyone have it by any chance? that would be great. Thanks
22:38.07nox-~flashing
22:38.08infobothmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
22:39.44nox-http://web.archive.org/web/20131117073522/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/
22:39.48nox-~skeiron
22:40.53dirtydevilya but when I click on the linux link for downloading it, link is saying "The requested URL /maemo-dev-env-downloads.php was not found on this server."
22:41.17nox-try the skeiron.org wayback link
22:42.16Sicelodirtydevil: links are on the /topic shortcuts
22:42.53nox-heh
22:43.03nox-~flasher-sdk
22:43.07Siceloupdated ones :)
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22:43.26Sicelo~combined
22:43.26infobotsomebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/
22:43.39Sicelo~emmc
22:43.39infoboti heard emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
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22:51.46solrizehi, i have an n9 with no sim card, it connects ok to my wifi network but is there any reason it won't automatically set the time without a sim card?
22:51.56solrizeand is it difficult to replace the batteries in these things?
23:02.13dirtydevilso i downloaded the files... my phone doesnt enter r&d mode
23:02.33dirtydevilconnecting usb pressing u.... directly starts off uboot
23:02.45dirtydevildoesnt boot into maemo
23:03.10dirtydevilis there a way to enter r&d from uboot ??
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