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| 12:10.14 | freemangordon_ | might worth it to port that to Qt |
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| 12:34.25 | kerio | "Because of this, hangouts must be implemented by reverse-engineering." |
| 12:34.34 | kerio | no, because of this we should stop using that shit |
| 12:34.39 | bencoh | +1 |
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| 13:34.02 | freemangordon_ | kerio: I am not using it, but it may become inevitable at some point of time |
| 13:34.14 | freemangordon_ | *in time |
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| 17:11.53 | sixwheeledbeast | ~seen M4rtinK |
| 17:11.55 | infobot | m4rtink <~M4rtinK@ip-78-102-146-131.net.upcbroadband.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 20d 17h 41m 39s ago, saying: 'and the number of tiles increases exponentially by zoom level (1-4-16-64-256-1024-...)'. |
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| 17:54.29 | sixwheeledbeast | ah, hi M4rtinK :) |
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| 18:00.05 | M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: hi! :) |
| 18:00.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I have a question about ModRana if that's ok :) |
| 18:03.19 | M4rtinK | sure, go ahead :) |
| 18:03.20 | sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: If I have downloaded tiles with modrana on a desktop how can I get the tiles on my N900? |
| 18:03.33 | sixwheeledbeast | ubuntu BTW |
| 18:03.57 | M4rtinK | just transfer the appropriate folders to ~/MyDocs/.maps |
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| 18:04.54 | M4rtinK | on desktop linux the tiles should be in |
| 18:05.00 | M4rtinK | ~/.modrana/maps |
| 18:05.13 | M4rtinK | and make sure you are downloading to "files" |
| 18:06.10 | sixwheeledbeast | so I have a OSM folder in .modrana/maps I copy that to /MyDocs/.maps |
| 18:06.21 | M4rtinK | basically |
| 18:06.30 | M4rtinK | just check the folder structure |
| 18:06.41 | sixwheeledbeast | I see I was looking in .modrana on the N900 |
| 18:06.44 | M4rtinK | it should be easy to see how it works |
| 18:07.04 | M4rtinK | that would place it in internal storage, which would be an issue :) |
| 18:07.31 | M4rtinK | but there would be less problems with many small files due to a better FS |
| 18:08.05 | sixwheeledbeast | Yep I understand. I didn't realise the .maps folder was for modrana |
| 18:08.13 | M4rtinK | BTW, you can set the path where the tiles should go in the ~/.modrana/user_config.conf file |
| 18:08.30 | M4rtinK | well, it is a kind of de-facto standard on Maemo |
| 18:08.41 | sixwheeledbeast | can you do that with the GUI too? |
| 18:08.53 | M4rtinK | I think Maemo Mapper/Mappero or Maep might be the first one using it |
| 18:09.04 | M4rtinK | not at the moment |
| 18:09.22 | M4rtinK | but I guess it could be a RFE :) |
| 18:09.39 | M4rtinK | BTW, you can also import the tiles to your sqlite tile database |
| 18:09.57 | M4rtinK | if you are using that to store tiles on your N900: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN |
| 18:10.28 | sixwheeledbeast | import? I have both desktop and N900 set to sqlite. |
| 18:11.04 | M4rtinK | well, then you have a problem :) |
| 18:11.35 | sixwheeledbeast | oh |
| 18:12.04 | M4rtinK | as there is no way to either export or merge two sqlite tile databases |
| 18:12.45 | M4rtinK | there are no technical limitations preventing this, but no one did that just yet |
| 18:13.15 | M4rtinK | either as modRana functionality or as an external program, like that above mentioned Perl script |
| 18:14.45 | M4rtinK | but it is perfectly doable and quite easy to do (hint hint ;-) ) |
| 18:15.11 | sixwheeledbeast | I was hoping to just overwrite the N900's existing db |
| 18:15.30 | M4rtinK | oh, that works of course |
| 18:15.53 | M4rtinK | if you replace the database file, there is no issue |
| 18:16.09 | M4rtinK | you of course loose any tiles that were in the file on the N900 |
| 18:16.57 | sixwheeledbeast | I still have the odd crash batch downloading tiles with the N900 so I thought I'd DL large amounts with a desktop and copy over. |
| 18:17.17 | M4rtinK | the format is just a simple sqlite database, sou there should transfer from PC just fine |
| 18:17.37 | sixwheeledbeast | great I'll try that now |
| 18:17.41 | M4rtinK | sure, I know many people do that |
| 18:18.00 | M4rtinK | let me know if you have any issues :) |
| 18:18.20 | M4rtinK | and maybe you can write about your experience on the Maemo wiki or somewhere else ? ;-) |
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| 18:28.30 | sixwheeledbeast | is there a full globe sqlite download somewhere? |
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| 18:39.25 | M4rtinK | I don't think anyone is hosting modRana compatible datbases anywhere :) |
| 18:39.42 | M4rtinK | BTW, don't forget to the transfer both the lookup & storage databases |
| 18:40.37 | M4rtinK | (it is like this to work around the 3.7 GB limit on file size on FAT32, there could be multiple storage databases, each up to 3.7 GB big) |
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| 18:41.10 | M4rtinK | BTW, this is the "specification": http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteStorageDescriptionEN |
| 18:42.33 | bencoh | by "modrana databases" you mean "tiles" ? |
| 18:42.58 | bencoh | or sqlite tiles storage ? |
| 18:43.20 | M4rtinK | yeah, I mean the sqlite database modRana uses to store map tiles |
| 18:43.52 | M4rtinK | BTW, there is another unrelated sqlite database used to store POI |
| 18:46.51 | M4rtinK | AFK, back in about an hour |
| 18:52.44 | kerio | M4rtinK: is there a guiless program to pregenerate a database? |
| 18:53.06 | kerio | possibly something for recent systems |
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| 18:57.52 | sixwheeledbeast | I copied lookup and store files all seems to work fine. |
| 18:59.40 | sixwheeledbeast | I have *-journal files which I haven't copied over. |
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| 20:18.30 | M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: you can safely ignore the journal files |
| 20:18.47 | M4rtinK | AFAIK they are some temporary files created by sqlite that are sometimes left behind |
| 20:18.49 | sixwheeledbeast | :) thanks M4rtinK |
| 20:19.09 | M4rtinK | kerio: how do you mean pregenerate ? |
| 20:19.34 | M4rtinK | like create an empty tile database file, just with the schema ? |
| 20:20.07 | M4rtinK | I guess the already mentioned batch import script could be used for something like that: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN |
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