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| 10:53.05 | drathir | mornin... |
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| 11:28.35 | erlehmann | i finally ditched my old htc dream and am now going n900 full time |
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| 11:28.51 | erlehmann | such a nice device! |
| 11:30.19 | erlehmann | so first things first. what would be the process to build a fully functional maemo image? |
| 11:30.31 | erlehmann | like, compile it |
| 11:31.29 | erlehmann | also what would be a good feedreader |
| 11:35.23 | erlehmann | hello hello |
| 11:35.29 | erlehmann | is anyone there |
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| 11:38.34 | NIN101_ | erlehmann: you want to compile everything of maemo from scratch? |
| 11:42.36 | drathir | ~flashing |
| 11:42.36 | infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 11:42.43 | drathir | erlehmann: ^ |
| 11:43.16 | drathir | ~firmware |
| 11:43.16 | infobot | i heard firmware is please see ~combined ~emmc ~flasher |
| 11:43.28 | drathir | ~combined |
| 11:43.29 | infobot | hmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 11:43.36 | drathir | erlehmann: ^ |
| 11:44.44 | drathir | ~emmc |
| 11:44.45 | infobot | hmm... emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 11:44.53 | drathir | ~flasher |
| 11:44.53 | infobot | i guess flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 11:45.06 | drathir | erlehmann: ^ |
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| 12:13.10 | erlehmann | NIN101_ yes |
| 12:13.24 | erlehmann | i want to create an image from scratch |
| 12:13.37 | NIN101_ | erlehmann: well that's not possible as many crucial parts of maemo are not open sourced |
| 12:14.14 | Pali | if you want to create FIASCO image (from kernel image, rootfs image, ...), use tool 0xFFFF |
| 12:14.21 | erlehmann | oh |
| 12:14.28 | Pali | ~0xFFFF |
| 12:14.29 | infobot | [0xffff] https://gitorious.org/0xffff/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 |
| 12:14.35 | erlehmann | can i replace the nonfree parts? |
| 12:14.55 | Pali | ~fremantle_closed_packages |
| 12:15.02 | Pali | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages |
| 12:15.16 | Pali | erlehmann: look at above table ^^^ what can be replaced |
| 12:16.23 | erlehmann | xchat somehow does not highlight the links |
| 12:21.32 | erlehmann | Pali is there a mostly free distribution? |
| 12:21.43 | Pali | no idea |
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| 12:23.54 | erlehmann | . |
| 12:24.26 | NIN101_ | erlehmann: none that makes the phone functions useable. |
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| 12:29.36 | erlehmann | NIN101_ so where can i start? |
| 12:34.06 | erlehmann | also, i think i need a git client |
| 12:34.12 | erlehmann | how do i get one |
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| 12:51.43 | erlehmann | the usb connector seems to lodge in tightly |
| 12:52.17 | erlehmann | i hope i dont break it |
| 12:54.37 | erlehmann | now filing down usb cable hooks |
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| 13:19.41 | erlehmann | i cannot call with jabber |
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| 13:36.35 | erlehmann | can anyone help me with n900 jabber voice and video? |
| 13:37.00 | erlehmann | ~voip |
| 13:37.00 | infobot | i heard voip is Voice over IP |
| 13:37.17 | erlehmann | ~jingle |
| 13:37.17 | infobot | somebody said jingle was action hooks up $1 to a sleigh and rides $1 around the town |
| 13:37.34 | erlehmann | ~jabber |
| 13:37.34 | infobot | it has been said that jabber is at http://www.jabber.org, http://www.jabber.com, http://www.jabbercentral.com and http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/jabberpy or an instant messaging system, or jabberstudio.org and planet.jabber.org |
| 13:39.56 | erlehmann | does not connect |
| 13:40.04 | erlehmann | :( |
| 13:41.34 | erlehmann | has anyone in here voice and video calls working? |
| 13:46.03 | Pali | erlehmann: voice call worked fine 2 months ago |
| 13:46.26 | Pali | and with cssu-devel patch it worked also with gmail web plugin |
| 13:46.45 | Pali | and it worked also with kopete |
| 13:48.01 | erlehmann | interesting is there an echo service |
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| 13:52.09 | erlehmann | Pali can i test call you over xmpp? |
| 13:52.23 | erlehmann | i cannot find a working echo server |
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| 13:57.15 | erlehmann | Pali do you have a tutorial for setting up xmpp calling with n900? |
| 13:57.53 | Ashley` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKgLAAMcM8 |
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| 18:24.48 | dhbiker | hi there |
| 18:24.55 | dhbiker | i haven't used this in a while... |
| 18:25.16 | dhbiker | why bleeding edge drivers aren't working with latest kernel power ? |
| 18:25.41 | dhbiker | or i'm just too stupid to get it back to work |
| 18:26.42 | stryngs | hi dhbiker, yer talking hacking on an n900. -=) Happy to help |
| 18:26.51 | stryngs | What hernel are u using? |
| 18:27.10 | dhbiker | power 52 |
| 18:27.50 | stryngs | ok, and what are u trying to do? |
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| 18:28.08 | stryngs | packet injection, etc..? |
| 18:28.17 | dhbiker | load bleeding edge drivers |
| 18:28.24 | stryngs | For what purpose? |
| 18:28.39 | dhbiker | aircrack-ng and reaver |
| 18:28.49 | stryngs | Roger, so PACKET injection =) |
| 18:28.53 | stryngs | Ok. one moment |
| 18:29.08 | stryngs | Im gunna hook u up dude |
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| 18:31.57 | stryngs | You familiar with dpkg -i and dpkg -x and ar dhbiker ? |
| 18:32.17 | dhbiker | affirmative |
| 18:32.28 | stryngs | ok one second, having issues with my shitty godaddy server |
| 18:33.27 | stryngs | wget ethicalreporting.org/wifi-tools-pwnphone_1.0_armel.deb |
| 18:33.35 | stryngs | Now, yer gunna have to mod the control file |
| 18:33.46 | stryngs | so grab it, when u got it lemme know |
| 18:34.21 | stryngs | actually no yer not |
| 18:34.41 | stryngs | why the hell i have it set to require aircrack-ng is beyond me, but thats fixable =) |
| 18:34.56 | stryngs | feel free to dpkg -i it. Check out the code for yourself i u like |
| 18:35.03 | stryngs | Either way, itll create two icons on yer desktop |
| 18:35.10 | stryngs | red needle turns on packet injection |
| 18:35.13 | stryngs | blue one turns it off |
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| 18:35.39 | stryngs | it has a backup to relaunch wlancond if u cycle them TOO fast, but try to avoid doing that as it is somewhat hackich |
| 18:35.42 | stryngs | hackish |
| 18:35.45 | stryngs | Lemme know ho wu like =) |
| 18:37.00 | stryngs | I would definately appreciate your feedback on it dhbiker =) |
| 18:37.09 | dhbiker | found them in /opt/packet-injection-modules/ and they seem to work |
| 18:37.10 | dhbiker | :> |
| 18:37.17 | stryngs | They do work |
| 18:37.28 | stryngs | That script just makes it easy to launch and delaunch em |
| 18:43.48 | Pali | ~packet-injection |
| 18:43.59 | Pali | ~kp |
| 18:43.59 | infobot | well, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 |
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| 18:44.34 | dhbiker | already up and running Pali thanks anyways :D |
| 18:44.42 | Pali | read first post of ^^^ there is script for loading packet injection drivers |
| 18:44.48 | Pali | they are already part of kp52 |
| 18:45.09 | dhbiker | i have everything :D |
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| 18:48.48 | stryngs | The script is broken Pali |
| 18:48.51 | stryngs | just a heads up |
| 18:49.05 | Pali | which part is broken? |
| 18:49.09 | stryngs | wlancond part |
| 18:49.10 | Pali | or what does not working? |
| 18:49.15 | stryngs | is tries to start to fast |
| 18:49.15 | Tekk_ | people still use nitdroid....? |
| 18:49.18 | Pali | and what wlancond doing? |
| 18:49.21 | stryngs | and has no backup for when the fail happens |
| 18:49.26 | Tekk_ | I was pretty sure you couldn't even find a nitdroid image to flash anymore |
| 18:49.38 | Pali | ah, right, this is not problem of my script |
| 18:49.45 | Pali | but ptoblem in upstart |
| 18:49.47 | stryngs | Right, but u can fix it |
| 18:49.53 | Tekk_ | huh, it has ics.. |
| 18:50.05 | Pali | it does not allow you stop & start process too many times |
| 18:50.11 | Pali | bug in upstart |
| 18:50.20 | stryngs | wget ethicalreporting.org/wifi-tools-pwnphone_1.0_armel.deb; grab it, dpkx -x it and check out injectionON.sh and injectionOFF.sh |
| 18:50.38 | stryngs | There are also other small errors and whatnot |
| 18:50.39 | Pali | if you stop wlancond too many times, you need to wait 5-10 minutes |
| 18:50.47 | Pali | and you *must* stop wlancond if you are chaning drivers |
| 18:50.48 | stryngs | or just launch wlancond -d =) |
| 18:51.08 | Pali | and you *must* start wlancond via upstart |
| 18:51.11 | stryngs | I modified your script based on the errors i was seeing in the log |
| 18:51.18 | stryngs | Your script works, dont get me wrong |
| 18:51.19 | Pali | otherwise system will not work correctly |
| 18:51.23 | kerio | fucking script kiddies |
| 18:51.24 | stryngs | It just needed a couple tweaks =) |
| 18:52.23 | Pali | now looking at ./usr/bin/injectionON.sh |
| 18:53.03 | Pali | that script is incorrect |
| 18:53.13 | stryngs | How so? |
| 18:53.23 | stryngs | sits down |
| 18:53.34 | Tekk_ | well, given that there's an "is nitdroid still being developed?" thread on the forum that's been unanswered for nearly a year, I'm guessing it's pretty dea d:P |
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| 18:53.54 | Pali | you should not kill wlancond |
| 18:54.02 | Pali | and not with -9 :D |
| 18:54.10 | kerio | jesus christ |
| 18:54.13 | Pali | upstart will handle it as system crash |
| 18:54.13 | stryngs | Why not? If its hanging |
| 18:54.38 | Pali | and when you got your counter at some level you will have permanent reboot |
| 18:54.53 | Pali | there is lifeguard daemon which storing that somewhere |
| 18:55.08 | Pali | and after it reach something it disallow you to start phone |
| 18:55.15 | stryngs | What? Who the hell coded that |
| 18:55.17 | Pali | it show message MALF |
| 18:55.43 | Pali | proper way to stop system daemon started by upstart is to use upstart, so call $ stop <daemon> |
| 18:55.46 | stryngs | Are the people at nokia just that retarded? |
| 18:56.06 | Pali | and to start daemon use: $ start <daemon> |
| 18:56.13 | Tekk_ | stryngs: have you seen the dependencies in maemo packages? :) |
| 18:56.19 | stryngs | Yes |
| 18:56.24 | stryngs | Its why i started my own fork so to speak |
| 18:56.33 | stryngs | But, Pali Thank you for that insight |
| 18:56.33 | Tekk_ | so why are you asking this question? :P |
| 18:56.34 | Pali | but if you call stop, start, stop, start, ... too many then upstart refuse to start daemon (need to wait about 5 minutes) |
| 18:56.46 | stryngs | right, so why not invoke with wlancond -d & |
| 18:56.53 | stryngs | works just the same, does it not? |
| 18:56.58 | Pali | somebody should look at upstart code and remove that restriction :-) |
| 18:57.28 | Pali | becuase system daemons are handled by upstart |
| 18:57.53 | stryngs | Ok, but...... if it works, why is it wrong? U handled my killall -9 question perfectly, u gave reason |
| 18:58.08 | stryngs | And I'm going to change that, because @#*$** what the heck |
| 18:58.29 | Pali | daemons could crash (sometimes) and upstart will respawn them if it happens |
| 18:58.57 | stryngs | So the proper way to handle this is to truly wait 5-10 mins? |
| 18:59.32 | Pali | and when you are starting daemon via upstart then upstart resolve some dependences and other services which should be started *after* that daemon upstart will automatically start them |
| 18:59.43 | stryngs | So the proper way to handle this is to truly wait 5-10 mins? |
| 19:00.16 | Pali | yes, until somebody remove that restrictioin |
| 19:00.26 | stryngs | Ok. Very cool. Thank you for the insight |
| 19:00.41 | stryngs | modules_unload="wl12xx wl1251_spi wl1251 mac80211 cfg80211 rfkill_backport compat" is wrong fyi |
| 19:00.53 | stryngs | check out my changes in injectionON/OFF |
| 19:00.56 | stryngs | to see what i mean |
| 19:01.03 | stryngs | if u launch it via ssh, youll see the errors |
| 19:01.05 | Pali | kerio: can you look at that upstart code? :D |
| 19:01.23 | stryngs | They aren't lifethreatening by anymeans, but they call for removing modules that arent there |
| 19:01.49 | stryngs | Good stuff Pali. Thank you for the insight! |
| 19:01.56 | Pali | yes, it print warnings about modules which are not loaded -- but this is not error |
| 19:02.12 | Pali | just to unload everything to be sure |
| 19:02.20 | stryngs | Well, imho if a script asks to do something, it should be done, errors are human coding errors. |
| 19:02.54 | stryngs | Either way, THANK you my friend =) You answered and taught me something today that I had evidently been MESSING up badly on |
| 19:02.56 | Pali | correct way would be probably to drop messages about non loaded modules |
| 19:03.22 | stryngs | Feel free to take that .DEB and put it in maemo =) |
| 19:03.31 | stryngs | I'm too lazy to proper package stuff, so i dont bother |
| 19:03.41 | kerio | hold on, aren't you unloading it with modprobe -r? |
| 19:03.44 | stryngs | But, the icons are pwnieexpress icons, so they would possibly have to change |
| 19:03.51 | kerio | *them |
| 19:04.05 | stryngs | rmmod kerio |
| 19:04.23 | Pali | ERROR: Module kerio does not exist in /proc/modules |
| 19:04.23 | stryngs | for dependency reasons i would assume, Pali? |
| 19:04.27 | kerio | it was a loaded question |
| 19:04.31 | kerio | Pali: oic |
| 19:04.48 | Pali | $ sudo modprobe -r kerio --> FATAL: Module kerio not found. |
| 19:04.53 | kerio | yeah yeah |
| 19:04.55 | Pali | this will show error message too |
| 19:05.05 | kerio | the modules are actually /not there/ |
| 19:05.24 | stryngs | Right, but why would you try to rmmod a module that isnt there, and wouldnt be there except for very weird circumstances? |
| 19:05.31 | Pali | but modprobe (when used instead insmod) will ignore already loaded modules |
| 19:06.01 | Pali | stryngs: to make sure that script will work in any state and I do not know which modules are loaded |
| 19:06.11 | stryngs | Interesting |
| 19:06.35 | stryngs | /dev/null 2&>1 |
| 19:06.38 | stryngs | that would fix it =) |
| 19:07.02 | Pali | I think that script should work at any time, so correct way is: 1) clean up everything (remove all modules which allocate wifi...) 2) init my code |
| 19:07.22 | Pali | stryngs: that will ignore also other fatal errors |
| 19:07.35 | Pali | like: cannot rmmod module, because somebody using it |
| 19:07.38 | stryngs | hmm |
| 19:07.44 | Pali | or cannot rmmod module, because something crashed |
| 19:07.54 | Pali | or whatever... |
| 19:08.15 | Pali | and I think this should be printed to notify user about problems |
| 19:10.43 | stryngs | Very well. |
| 19:10.52 | stryngs | I've been effectively shutup'd =) |
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| 20:55.24 | Pali | some *kernel* source code for omap M-Shield and SMC: https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/omap/+/android-omap-tuna-3.0/security/smc |
| 20:55.44 | Pali | freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05 ^^^ |
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| 20:58.33 | Sicelo | Pali: applies directly to our chip? |
| 20:59.04 | Pali | no idea, I just found kernel code which calling smc instruction with other file names mshield |
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| 21:02.01 | Pali | and there is something interesting too: https://gitorious.org/omap-audio/okus-linux-audio/commit/9b0673e |
| 21:02.13 | Pali | some mshield sdk |
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| 21:15.22 | Sicelo | :) hopefully they'll help somewhere |
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| 21:27.20 | freemangordon | Pali: you're aware that SMC calls are ROM specific? |
| 21:28.00 | Pali | I just found some public info about mshiled |
| 21:28.08 | freemangordon | BTW IIRC HW AES was slower than SW on N900 |
| 21:28.32 | Pali | I read it, but CPU offload is still good |
| 21:29.03 | freemangordon | did you look at gtalk-plugin code? |
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| 21:29.41 | freemangordon | as I am soon to finish usb_plugin RE :) |
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| 21:30.02 | freemangordon | so you'll have lots of stuff in your queue :P |
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| 21:31.26 | Pali | sorry but I did not have time, will look at rtcom code at next weekend |
| 21:31.46 | Pali | I'm still studing math |
| 21:32.33 | freemangordon | oh, I meant just to look at it, not to fix it. however, take your time, your education is more important than anything maemo |
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