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| 03:56.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo council elections closed. results calculated. see http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=37 |
| 04:01.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | thank you to all community members who bothered to vote! And of course a big thank you to all candidates. And a plea to those candidates who were not elected: please stay in close contact with all council activities, we for sure will like to see you standing for elections again in 6 months, and until then your help is very welcome no matter if you're a elected member of council or not. The experience will benefit your candidature on next |
| 04:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | council elections |
| 04:30.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | om a sidenote: from http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=37 it's actually worrying how many ballots demonstrate that we (council) didn't manage to explain how the votes work. While number of voted candidates = 5 is ideal and <=5 is still reasonable, I'd count the =1 votes ballots already into the group of >5 votes, which look like voter didn't get the concept of the election |
| 04:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are _way_ too many ballots with >5 votes, which are not causing trouble in themselves but suggest that voter didn't understand that voting for candidate #6 and beyond is absolutely meaningless |
| 04:33.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | in that context I finally want to pick up on loose end of my suggestion a 6 or 12 months ago: always have a pseudo-candidate "that's enough" which voters can chose and which will cause election counting to terminate when this pseudo candidate gets elected into council. |
| 04:35.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Lemme elaborate: when counting of votes results in: 1: Alice, 2: Bob, 3: Christine, 4: Thats_Enough, 5: Eric - then the council will consist of Alice, Bob, Christine only |
| 04:37.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | note that an abstention to vote is not identical to voting for Thats_Enough |
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| 05:52.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | any mobile phone core developer around? ([ex] Nokia highly welcome) I'd like to discuss under which (APE CPU) conditions the modem should get shut down hard. To explain, an example: When for whatever reason CPU shuts down (let's assume the OMAP would shut down on 3.6V Vbatt while modem can run down to 2.5V battery voltage) then we probably want to make damn sure that modem doesn't live on a a phantom in the machine. Anybody who got |
| 05:52.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | experience/info from practivce and likes to share it with me? |
| 05:57.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | other example scenario: user eventually moved swap to uSD, now does a inmarsat call (12 bucks per minute) and during that call the uSD contacts see a glitch and APE kernel blows chunks aka kernel panic. Subsequently the APE shuts down pretty hard, to reboot. But reboot fails for same uSD contact problem. All the time the established call stays and kills user's economy. And then let's assume this happens 2 minutes before boarding call on |
| 05:57.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | airport |
| 06:06.29 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am not one of those (as you know), but looking at the signalling in N900, the above scenario is not going to happen. By looking at the schematics it seems that CMT_RST_RQ will be help asserted in case of OMAP reset/power off. |
| 06:06.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 06:06.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 06:07.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I think I detected in N900: mutual "watchdog" |
| 06:08.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just interested in the more abstract design rationale and architecture, if there's a best practice commonly used, or whatever. |
| 06:08.17 | freemangordon | TBH I have no idea under what conditions CMT would want an APE reset |
| 06:08.31 | freemangordon | I see |
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| 06:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | when APE gone stale? |
| 06:08.48 | freemangordon | but how would CMT detect that? |
| 06:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | when there's a dynamic watchdog concept then it may detect |
| 06:09.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | CMT may want to see a keep aloive packet once per second, maybe only during calls. Dunno. That's exactly what I want to learn |
| 06:10.05 | freemangordon | hmm, makes sense |
| 06:11.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not that such scheme could easily get implemented into arbitrary other modems) |
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| 06:19.30 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: wait, I start to think it is not like that (mutual watchdog), APE_RST_RQ needs working APE to be processed. It is connected to GPIO, not to some reset pin on OMAP/TWL |
| 06:20.19 | freemangordon | so it is most probably used as an application/protocol level reset, rather than APE hard reset |
| 06:20.53 | freemangordon | look at cmtspeech_nokiamodem.c |
| 06:21.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: good spotting! :-) |
| 06:22.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: is there a explanation of what APE_RST_RQ is meant to do? whether it's input or output, and so on? |
| 06:23.25 | freemangordon | it is output from CMT to APE |
| 06:23.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks! |
| 06:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | more info? :-D |
| 06:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | IRQ handler, for example? |
| 06:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | (would make some sense) |
| 06:25.08 | freemangordon | just a mminute |
| 06:25.57 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: look at https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/hsi/clients/nokia-modem.c?id=refs/tags/v3.16-rc5#n51 |
| 06:26.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 06:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | dev_info(modem->device, "CMT rst line change detected\n"); \o/ |
| 06:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | O*M*G!!! |
| 06:27.00 | freemangordon | yep. and upstream code is pretty much close to Nokia code IIRC |
| 06:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | SSI_reset |
| 06:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | you recall my rant about HSI failing/stalling since OMAP loses IRQs? |
| 06:27.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMAP4 here |
| 06:27.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | this looks so damn identical to how we had to handle that problem for OMAP4 |
| 06:29.10 | freemangordon | hmm, I don;t think this code workarounds anything |
| 06:29.31 | freemangordon | it just passes APE_RST_RQ to userland, resetting ssi in the meantime |
| 06:29.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly. But why resetting SSI? |
| 06:30.08 | freemangordon | because CMT wants us to do it |
| 06:30.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 06:30.44 | freemangordon | freemangordon 9,08,04 |
| 06:30.46 | freemangordon | TBH I have no idea under what conditions CMT would want an APE reset |
| 06:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I cannot think of any non-pathological case where SSI/HSI needs reset |
| 06:31.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can :-D |
| 06:31.13 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 06:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | err I have :-d |
| 06:31.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | CMT wants a APE (incl SSI) reset when CMT FIFO for SSI overflows |
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| 06:32.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | due to APE not servicing the SSI interrupts |
| 06:32.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | now that should never happen, unless SSI hw IF is somehow fux0red |
| 06:33.19 | freemangordon | well, maybe it is possible, even if HW is ok |
| 06:33.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all SSI should have its own "embedded" IRQ machine |
| 06:34.10 | freemangordon | iirc from the ssi code, we have 2 modes, "direct" and DMA |
| 06:34.33 | freemangordon | I guess if the system is overloaded it is possible to have FIFO overrun in both cases |
| 06:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | transferring a data word via HSI/SSI from sender to receiver hw block shall work autonomously, and receiver hw block shall trigger an IRQ "data in buffer to fetch!" |
| 06:35.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, overload is one possible cause |
| 06:35.16 | freemangordon | yes, but data is fetched in a workqueue outside of the IRQ handler |
| 06:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | but even then the SSI hw doesn't need reset |
| 06:35.49 | freemangordon | so, even if the IRQ is served we can still have overflow |
| 06:36.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | overflow is just overflow |
| 06:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | eventually APE will handle it |
| 06:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | no need for an extra line to ask APE to reset SSI hw |
| 06:36.44 | freemangordon | look, this is "ssip_reset_event(modem->ssi_protocol)", i.e. "CMT asserted the reset line" |
| 06:36.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | fck HSI/SSI |
| 06:37.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | SSI is a synchronous protocol that simply transfers 8 bit (usually, other word sizes are possible) from sender to receiver |
| 06:37.58 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: look at http://code.metager.de/source/xref/linux/stable/drivers/hsi/clients/ssi_protocol.c#1038 |
| 06:38.18 | freemangordon | we don't really have ssi reset |
| 06:38.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 06:38.56 | freemangordon | this is treated as an error condition, buffers are emtied, etc |
| 06:39.04 | freemangordon | emptied even |
| 06:39.27 | freemangordon | if I read the code correctly |
| 06:39.52 | freemangordon | anyway, have to leave, bbl |
| 06:40.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | err http://code.metager.de/source/xref/linux/stable/drivers/hsi/clients/ssi_protocol.c#455 |
| 06:40.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: thanks a ton! have a nice day! |
| 06:40.35 | freemangordon | sure, but look at what ssip_+reset does |
| 06:40.43 | freemangordon | *ssip_reset |
| 06:41.07 | freemangordon | http://code.metager.de/source/xref/linux/stable/drivers/hsi/clients/ssi_protocol.c#ssip_reset |
| 06:41.36 | freemangordon | IMO this is "logical" reset, not a hard one |
| 06:42.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O http://code.metager.de/source/xref/linux/stable/drivers/hsi/clients/ssi_protocol.c#412 |
| 06:44.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is: OMAP HSI has no decent reset ;-P |
| 06:44.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | since nobody ever thought it would need any |
| 06:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | so all you can do is flush buffers and setup all IRQ handlers and timers and whatnot anew. Or you go brute force and power down the complete power domain, which also resets several other interfaces (UART? cannot recall details) --- disclaimer: IIRC |
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| 15:48.25 | ult | have anyone had good results with smscon COM_CUSTOM defined as Sript ** * * * * , particularly with usercmd arguments processing? |
| 15:49.03 | ult | smscon_script is taken from wiki |
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| 16:15.13 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: yes, are you having issues? |
| 16:16.06 | ult | yep, specifically with the way parameters are passed |
| 16:17.20 | ult | dependless of delimeter used, it's always $1='p1 p2...pn', not $1=p1, $2=p2, etc |
| 16:18.27 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: I have not played with it for a while, gimme a bit and I'll check out my version and settings, I am cooking at the moment. ;) |
| 16:18.37 | ult | so you can't say something like Script usercmd ls -l -a /home |
| 16:18.49 | ult | okay, take your time |
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| 17:53.08 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: ok what was your problem? |
| 17:57.58 | ult | if i try to sms the daemon with $prefixScript$delimusercmd$delim$arg1$arg2 it's parsed incorrectly, resulting in wrong path in case stament inside smscon_script is taken and it finishes with "unknown command". afaict this is due to incorrect argument processing |
| 17:58.58 | ult | $prefixScript$delimusercmd$delim$arg1$delim$arg2$suffix actually |
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| 18:06.12 | sixwheeledbeast | do you have an example? |
| 18:12.13 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: Script usercmd ls -l -a /home |
| 18:13.44 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: depending of what delimiter you set, you may need to replace the spaces with it |
| 18:16.39 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I have a list of /home directories in my script.log file after testing it. |
| 18:16.51 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: ^^^ |
| 18:17.48 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: smscon version? |
| 18:18.07 | sixwheeledbeast | the latest from devel...lemme check |
| 18:19.40 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: 0.10.9-4 |
| 18:21.11 | sixwheeledbeast | I have commented out every line in the smscon_script file and put ls -la /home at the EOF |
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| 18:29.59 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: CSSU repo? extras-devel has 0.10.9-1 most recent. and what's the idea behind commenting out everything while script itself is needed to parse input? |
| 18:31.09 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: ah sorry yes 0.10.9-1 smscon 0.10.9-4 smscon editor |
| 18:31.46 | sixwheeledbeast | the current content of the script file is an example script |
| 18:31.49 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: does the script look like http://wiki.maemo.org/SMSCON#An_example_user_script_for_COM_CUSTOM |
| 18:32.05 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: perfect timing :-D |
| 18:32.49 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: it's similar but the wiki is not up to date AFAIK |
| 18:34.22 | sixwheeledbeast | you can remove everything after the shebang line if you wish or even copy it somewhere "script.bak" |
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| 18:37.57 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: no, i like it the way it is, i just needed a way to somehow pass the arguments to usercmd. in the end just patched it to forcefully divide the $CMD in atual cmd and args and launch stuff accordingly. but it has one downside - have to rely on known delimiter, if it changes, simplest parsing i've added will break. |
| 18:41.08 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: hmmm, so is your file "exactly" as the wiki page? |
| 18:41.53 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: it was before i've started to fiddle with it |
| 18:43.31 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: my file shares some content but it's not the same. there is some more user instructions gimme a minute... |
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| 18:56.54 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: http://pastebin.com/eFQ3hgCy |
| 18:57.56 | sixwheeledbeast | I believe it explains a bit better how to format the script |
| 19:04.48 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: got it, placeholder processing examples is pretty much identical to those in wiki. but, look at the wiki's script, part with case branches, specifically in usercmd) one: without modification it's never triggered, unless your sms contains no actual command after usercmd string. |
| 19:06.16 | sixwheeledbeast | ult: ah, maybe this is why it was changed on a later version. |
| 19:11.06 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: and this happens because of $CMD in the beginning has ALL of the params in it, they are not passed in $2 $3 etc. and delimiters are present in $CMD, so if it would be triggered by adding * at the end of usercmd*), then any kind of delimiter other than space would make sh fail on input parsing, if you wouldn't fix it manually beforehand. |
| 19:11.58 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 19:16.14 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: well, i was telling this exactly about last version - parameter passing is done somewhere inside the python code. |
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| 19:32.23 | ult | sixwheeledbeast: no, it seems you was right - just tried with 'for p in "$@" echo $p' and got them properly divided. no idea why in CMD=$(trim "${1:-default}") had them all in one string. |
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| 22:44.10 | Kilroo | I had an entertaining dream. |
| 22:44.19 | Kilroo | It had a weird phone in it. |
| 22:45.42 | Kilroo | It pretty much seemed to be an N9, running Maemo 5 but with the N9 feed screen as one of its desktops, and with a hardware keyboard Other Half. |
| 22:46.18 | Kilroo | It was a lot more fun than the next dream which was about an upcoming project at work going horribly horribly wrong. |
| 22:49.09 | sixwheeledbeast | sshhh...some of us are sleeping... ;) |
| 23:27.00 | Ashley` | yaaay |
| 23:27.10 | Ashley` | i managet to boot my broken usb n900 |
| 23:27.14 | Ashley` | *managed |
| 23:27.29 | honestly | congratulations! |
| 23:27.43 | Ashley` | battery from nokia c3-01 touch and type is smaller (physicaly) |
| 23:27.52 | Ashley` | but duct tape |
| 23:28.00 | Ashley` | and it works |
| 23:28.07 | Ashley` | im so happy |
| 23:30.16 | honestly | what part of your n900 is broken? |
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