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| 00:10.02 | louisdk | b1101, nice. I guess you're a qwerty-ohologic :) |
| 00:11.13 | b1101 | very happy I did it |
| 00:11.22 | b1101 | I can't use an android again. |
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| 01:15.58 | louisdk | b1101, there's also Sailfish OS by Jolla. |
| 01:18.27 | b1101 | I'm in the U.S. also no keyboard, |
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| 02:56.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | b1101: I guess you'll want a Neo900 then ;-) |
| 02:59.33 | b1101 | oh ya |
| 02:59.49 | b1101 | I'm waiting for my refund, so I can send you a payment in one shot |
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| 04:47.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | you asked for refund? |
| 04:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | b1101: please don't miss http://neo900.org/donate-gdc |
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| 10:08.48 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 10:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | moin! |
| 10:30.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | we just publihsed part 2 of our Neo900 trilogy: http://neo900.org/news/july-trilogy-part-ii-the-present |
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| 10:34.21 | kerio | fuck yeah 1gb ram |
| 10:34.25 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: feature request: 2gb ram |
| 10:36.22 | APic | o/ |
| 10:36.36 | APic | DocScrutinizer is the Best. |
| 10:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: doesn't fir on OMAP3 |
| 10:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | fit, even |
| 10:39.29 | kerio | really? :O |
| 10:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | not enough address lines |
| 10:39.29 | kerio | it has a 1gb hard limit? :( |
| 10:39.29 | kerio | goddammit TI |
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| 10:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 10:39.29 | bencoh | oO |
| 10:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck do you want with 2GB RAM? you have 0.25GB right now, on your N900 |
| 10:39.55 | bencoh | love the diagram btw |
| 10:40.20 | zGrr | .25gb is definitely NOT enough. |
| 10:40.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, it's already great, but wait for the HTML version which has awesome hove textx with additional info for every single component |
| 10:41.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | hover texts even |
| 10:41.43 | zGrr | Why do you insist on keeping the N900 physical form for Neo900? |
| 10:41.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | because we got no better one |
| 10:42.17 | zGrr | Hmm... |
| 10:42.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, we could use cases of laptops... ;-P |
| 10:42.46 | zGrr | Don't chinese manufacturers have anything to offer? |
| 10:42.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 10:43.09 | zGrr | There were some good UMPC designs. |
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| 10:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | with matching resistive touchscreen? with LCD display? with keyboard? with antennas? |
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| 10:49.04 | zGrr | hmm |
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| 10:49.26 | zGrr | The Chinese tend to use wacoms |
| 10:50.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | wacom doesn't build r-ts afaik |
| 10:50.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | not already a showstopper but sure I prefer r-ts over cheesy c-ts |
| 10:50.38 | zGrr | I would already buy OQO Model 3-China if it wasn't so fscking expensive. |
| 10:50.57 | zGrr | I also prefer resistive. |
| 10:51.31 | zGrr | I like wacom though |
| 10:51.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, what do you like from wacom? |
| 10:51.58 | zGrr | precission |
| 10:52.03 | zGrr | and |
| 10:52.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems our N900 r-ts is as precise as it gets |
| 10:52.24 | zGrr | Yes. |
| 10:52.56 | zGrr | Nowdays the chinese typically sell dual mode - capacitive/wacom |
| 10:53.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and Neo900 even comes with gesture/dualtouch :-D |
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| 10:53.36 | bencoh | dualtouch ? waitwaithow ? |
| 10:53.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, SG Note-2 has such a critter, actually bearable |
| 10:54.01 | zGrr | wacom with the pen, and capacitive with the finger |
| 10:54.19 | bencoh | hmm |
| 10:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: I said "I want dualtouch!" and it happened ;-) |
| 10:54.33 | bencoh | magic |
| 10:54.58 | bencoh | hm, seriously though ... whathow ? :) |
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| 10:55.00 | zGrr | The Chinese - at least those that I know don't use keyboards. |
| 10:55.24 | bencoh | (looks like we're on wrong chan again btw :D) |
| 10:55.26 | zGrr | And resistive touchscreens are not very good at handwriting recognition. |
| 10:55.36 | zGrr | And capacitive are even worse. |
| 10:56.08 | zGrr | With the Wacom (compatible) pen they get even pressure sensor. |
| 10:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1393889#post1393889 |
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| 11:00.51 | bencoh | oh ... okay :) |
| 11:00.54 | bencoh | thx |
| 11:02.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw :-) |
| 11:03.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | zGrr: (Chinese don't use kbd) well, that's no surprise, given their weird 4000 "char" writing |
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| 11:04.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet that's more convenient to enter via handwriting |
| 11:04.37 | zGrr | DocScrutinizer05: Japanese use keyboard with no problem. |
| 11:06.32 | zGrr | The entire Chinese alphabet consists of 214 radicals all characters are built from. If you had 214 keys keyboard, it could be much more convenient than handwriting. |
| 11:07.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, no idea :-D |
| 11:07.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I seen a few colleagues in TPE writing mails |
| 11:07.40 | zGrr | TPE? What's that? |
| 11:07.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | but never wrapped my head around it, all I seen been that they need up to 5 keystrokes for one "char" |
| 11:08.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Taipei |
| 11:08.45 | zGrr | Yes, they do use keyboards, I believe. They have some weird keyboard for that. |
| 11:09.58 | zGrr | I guess invented by the Taiwanese expats in Japan. |
| 11:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://totalueberwachung.de/blog/category/openezx http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/11/01/openmoko-media-player-and-web-browser/ |
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| 11:14.06 | zGrr | Nice time you had there, right? |
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| 11:30.32 | zGrr | Why the handhelds are practically extinct species? |
| 11:31.30 | APic | Huh? Really? |
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| 11:36.54 | zGrr | I think so. |
| 11:37.37 | zGrr | The last models were released in 2011 |
| 11:38.01 | zGrr | You can hardly get them even on ebay auctions. |
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| 11:38.47 | zGrr | Bloody tablets and stupid smartphones rule the market. |
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| 22:01.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | HEY GALS&GUYS, YOU RECEIVED A VOTING BALLOT MAIL! |
| 22:03.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | and if not, then you can request a resend on http://maemo.org/vote/vote.php |
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| 22:05.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a token for almost every one of our 60k users |
| 22:06.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't hope for a council when only 0.01% of you bother to vote for one |
| 22:09.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you think you don't need a council, but you will notice how wrong you were when it vanishes |
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| 22:10.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | we done a hell of a job to set up a infra for you that "just works", but even such robust infra and orga is "bitrotting" |
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| 22:27.40 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: i could be wrong, but i seem to remember we could set the order of the choices .. is this no longer there? |
| 22:29.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: they are sorted the sequence you click them. When you don't like what you did, click to the entry in the list and it jumps back to your list of choices |
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| 22:31.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you want to start anew, just click on all your votes to push them back to the list of candidates to choose from, and you can start again by clicking on your #1 choice, then #2 aso |
| 22:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I admit this voting page could use a bit more of smartness and help |
| 22:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously not done by a javascript wizard like dos1 |
| 22:33.14 | Sicelo | :) |
| 22:33.22 | Sicelo | i have cast my vote |
| 22:33.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | great! one more :-) |
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| 22:35.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | soon we will trip the 6 dozen votes I guess |
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| 23:41.54 | Kilroo | I don't think I have a garage account. |
| 23:42.03 | Kilroo | I was wondering why I couldn't find the email. |
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