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| 08:20.32 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 09:45.03 | cint | Someone around here who has a copy of chromium_5.0.369.2-maemo4_armel.deb? (fremantle) |
| 09:45.20 | cint | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/ is down. |
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| 10:12.14 | spoofy | o/ |
| 10:13.27 | spoofy | https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-17.html < Is the old flash version on maemo is vulnerable? |
| 10:17.39 | Wizzup | I wouldn't be surprised |
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| 11:26.42 | wnd | is "nokia maps" currently working on n900 for others? I know there are alternatives, but that's not what I'm after right now. |
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| 11:27.46 | wnd | I see network traffic to cds139.arn.llnw.net, but only satellite/aerial photos seem to be coming back. actual maps are not. |
| 11:33.17 | spoofy | wnd: same here |
| 11:33.27 | spoofy | only satellite view on nokia maps |
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| 11:36.40 | wnd | thanks. at least it's not just me then. |
| 11:37.02 | spoofy | also modrana-qml has map loading error (Failed to get image) |
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| 11:41.06 | cint | maemo scratchboc can't be installed anymore because "http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php" is down?! |
| 11:41.56 | wnd | address searches clearly go to ec2/aws and return data perfectly fine. this particular ec2 address redirect to here.com. |
| 11:42.17 | spoofy | I have an scratchbox installed on Debian sid before shutdown. |
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| 12:39.07 | Katajakasa | There we go, got E17/X to start on N810 :D http://katajakasa.fi/projects/n810/boot/ |
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| 12:49.21 | spoofy | Nice Katajakasa :) |
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| 13:33.41 | dhbiker | Katajakasa: gentoo ? any reason why you used it instead of others ? |
| 13:35.12 | Katajakasa | dhbiker: Because i can :P |
| 13:35.48 | dhbiker | just asking |
| 13:35.52 | Katajakasa | The whole N810 installation idea came from when a friend found it on my shelf and said something like "heh, you should install gentoo on it" :) |
| 13:35.52 | dhbiker | <-- gentoo user here |
| 13:36.01 | Katajakasa | right |
| 13:36.19 | dhbiker | but you probably don't compile stuff on your 810 ? o.O |
| 13:36.30 | Katajakasa | Well, I can |
| 13:36.32 | Katajakasa | distcc helps |
| 13:36.34 | Katajakasa | BUT |
| 13:36.39 | Katajakasa | mostly i just compile on qemu :) |
| 13:36.44 | dhbiker | ah yes :D |
| 13:36.53 | dhbiker | it would takes ages i pressume :D |
| 13:37.12 | Katajakasa | Probably, I don't really feel like trying |
| 13:37.32 | dhbiker | what happened with "Because i can" |
| 13:37.33 | dhbiker | :D |
| 13:37.57 | Katajakasa | Ah, Real World sometimes has a dampening effect on enthusiasm :) |
| 13:38.04 | dhbiker | hehe |
| 13:38.31 | dhbiker | i tried it once on RPi... was so slow i just canceled it xD |
| 13:38.34 | Katajakasa | Still, gentoo is nice in that it's pretty flexible. Packages are pretty easily modifiable without arcane packaging magic... |
| 13:38.47 | dhbiker | yep |
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| 14:09.29 | Sicelo | cint: /topic |
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| 14:12.42 | Sicelo | wnd: spoofy : use Nokia/Ovi suite to get Maps. that still works. N900's maps is hardcoded to look for maps in a location that no longer serves maps |
| 14:13.32 | Sicelo | and yes, i *ONLY* use stock Maps (have tried all others, but still find stock maps more useful for my use cases) |
| 14:16.17 | Sicelo | Katajakasa: ver nice :) |
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| 14:16.31 | Sicelo | what kernel is that? and how long does it take to boot to the login screen? |
| 14:17.07 | Katajakasa | Sicelo: 3.3.8 with openwrt patches |
| 14:17.46 | bencoh | owrt on n810 ? |
| 14:18.14 | Katajakasa | N810 was a supported openwrt platform at some point, i think |
| 14:18.24 | Katajakasa | anyways, it's about 30 seconds (or so) to login screen |
| 14:18.33 | Katajakasa | from pressing the power button |
| 14:19.24 | Sicelo | wow. |
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| 14:20.13 | Katajakasa | In any case... I've got working audio, wifi, touchscreen, keyboard, all other buttons, usb in host-mode. Bluetooth not yet tested, but driver module loads and finds _something_. Charging is kind of iffy. |
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| 14:24.18 | bencoh | neat |
| 14:25.51 | Katajakasa | systemd actually helps quite a lot. With only openrc, the boot time is around 2-3 minutes :P |
| 14:26.06 | bencoh | meh :) |
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| 14:26.32 | bencoh | some init script timing out I guess |
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| 14:32.20 | Katajakasa | bencoh: Afaik no. It's just that systemd actually knows how to load stuff in parallel :P |
| 14:32.38 | Katajakasa | OpenRC wanted to load most stuff before it started loading X and SLIM |
| 14:33.05 | Katajakasa | Systemd started loading X almost instantly after kernel was loaded :/ |
| 14:33.25 | kerio | yeah, systemd cheats |
| 14:33.45 | Katajakasa | hah, not a fan ? :D |
| 14:33.53 | kerio | ~poettering |
| 14:33.58 | infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html |
| 14:33.58 | Katajakasa | :P |
| 14:34.21 | Katajakasa | I kind of like the idea of systemd. It's fast and pretty light. I'm just slightly worried about it getting huge and bloated :/ |
| 14:35.41 | Katajakasa | Systemd Journal though, is something that should be shot and hanged :/ |
| 14:35.49 | Katajakasa | At least it's possible to disable it and use syslog-ng |
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| 14:37.15 | Humpelstilzchen | systemd is light? |
| 14:38.12 | Katajakasa | Yes, actually |
| 14:38.48 | Katajakasa | In total, systemd services are running with RSS of ~2.2M |
| 14:39.42 | Katajakasa | It goes to around 3.5M in use |
| 14:39.44 | Katajakasa | but that's it |
| 14:40.09 | Humpelstilzchen | my poor openwrt |
| 14:41.00 | Katajakasa | In any case, to make this clear (again), i'm running gentoo/armv6+vfp |
| 14:42.16 | Katajakasa | I'm just using some openwrt patches for kernel. In case somebody thought I was running openwrt. |
| 14:46.04 | Katajakasa | dbus though... |
| 14:46.16 | Katajakasa | dbus has an RSS of 8 M |
| 14:46.26 | Katajakasa | :& |
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| 14:58.27 | bencoh | typhus, cholera ;p |
| 14:58.56 | bencoh | good old wrt54g had something like 8M, flat |
| 14:59.03 | bencoh | or 16M, not much more |
| 15:00.30 | bencoh | yeah, 16M |
| 15:00.49 | Katajakasa | N810 has 128M, so might as well use some of it to make the loading times tolerable |
| 15:00.56 | bencoh | :) |
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| 17:03.12 | wnd | Sicelo, thanks. preloading the maps defeats the purpose of stock Maps for me, but monitoring network traffic while preloading just might help figuring out how to remedy the situation. |
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| 17:07.18 | spoofy | Sicelo: thanks but I would like to see modrana-qml working on fremantle |
| 17:07.40 | spoofy | IMO modrana is a nice alternative. |
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| 17:26.40 | wnd | Sicelo, just tried Nokia PC Suite (7.1.1.180.94) in VM, clicking the maps button opens a browser to http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/apps/lumia/here/ . :-/ |
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| 18:07.55 | cint | Sicelo: Am I off topic? why? Isn't this the general maemo channel? |
| 18:09.01 | cint | (for fremantle/n900) |
| 18:12.30 | bencoh | no you're not |
| 18:12.42 | bencoh | (it is the general maemo/n900 chan) |
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| 18:19.42 | fizzie | cint: I think the intended point was that the topic message (which you can usually see with /topic) might contain useful information for you. |
| 18:19.45 | fizzie | ~sb |
| 18:19.46 | infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB |
| 18:19.52 | fizzie | (Possibly there. Haven't checked.) |
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| 19:36.55 | Sicelo | cint: lol... that was not what i meant |
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| 19:37.32 | Sicelo | i meant on the /topic you would find the answer to your questsion, as fizzie has so kindly pointed out |
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