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| 02:29.03 | honestly | now my n900 is pretending that it's charging although there's no USB cable attached :| |
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| 03:25.36 | bef0rd | wireless charging |
| 03:34.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 03:35.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly: did you use hostmode? |
| 03:35.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly: do you have bq27200.sh installed? or bq27k-detail? |
| 03:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | what exactly shows it's "charging"? |
| 03:36.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | icon? LED? |
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| 03:57.01 | b1101 | If I were to get a second n900, and use uboot to back it up. I should be able to just flash that backup to a different n900 correct ? |
| 03:57.59 | bef0rd | uboot with backupmenu ? |
| 03:58.15 | b1101 | ya |
| 03:58.20 | bef0rd | I'd say yes, but I've never done it myself |
| 04:01.45 | bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
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| 04:38.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | b1101: backupmenu will restore any backup made on any other (N900) device. You don't flash the backup, you restore it using BM, identically to creating those backups |
| 04:40.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | so to restore or copy to another device, you need a (preferrably clean) working fremantle rootfs on that device, plus BM installed. I think robbiethe1st somewhere provides a COMBINED fiasco image that can flash such fremantle rootfs with BM already installed |
| 04:42.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't like to search for, and use such custom made fiasco image, you're absolutely fine with flashing stock PR1.3 and then install BM the usual way on the device, then bring backup file to device - probably on a uSD card most conveniently - and restore this backup to device using BM |
| 04:43.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you use the BM fiasco, you can skup step 2 "...and then install BM the usual way..." |
| 04:43.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | skip* |
| 04:44.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | you *can* also create your own fiasco from a BM backup file, but that is pretty cumbersome and not really worth anything, it's more complicated than what I explained above |
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| 07:01.48 | sixwheeledbeast | When you say 'pretending it's charging' do you mean in the status menu, led, both or something else? |
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| 07:04.01 | Humpelst1lzchen | My n900 also once said its charging with the led..reboot fixed it |
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| 07:52.30 | honestly | DocScrutinizer05: the toolbar and the led showed charging |
| 07:52.57 | honestly | the status menu didn't show the "usb connected" field |
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| 10:10.17 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: how to 'reset' charger chip? |
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| 10:11.16 | Sicelo | asking because occassionally, my N900 will show very faint amber when charging, but if i restart, then it gives 'proper' glow. |
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| 10:45.49 | kerio | battery problem |
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| 10:53.56 | Sicelo | what battery problem? |
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| 10:58.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | dim glow? |
| 10:58.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a relative of |
| 10:58.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xy |
| 10:58.47 | infobot | somebody said xy was The XY problem: You want to do X, but don't know how. You think you can solve it using Y, but don't know how to do that, either. You ask about Y, which is a strange thing to want to do. Just ask about X. |
| 10:59.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you talk about the pulsing amber? |
| 10:59.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: ^^^ |
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| 11:01.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | pulsing amber is done by mce (pattern_charging) and mce is known to have a bug of reducing brightness of indicator LED to almost invisible *when you lock the device under ambient light >=1000Lux* |
| 11:02.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily there's a fix for that (see my post on tmo), and a workaround (unlock, cover ALS in upper right corner, lock again) |
| 11:05.18 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: give link on tmo |
| 11:05.29 | kerio | even better, put tmo link in ~mcebug |
| 11:05.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: please see #maemo-meeting of a few days ago |
| 11:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | thursday iirc |
| 11:07.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooops, #maemo-ssu |
| 11:08.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-06-19 Thu 20:40:19] <DocScrutinizer05> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91849&highlight=MCE |
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| 11:11.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo mcebug is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91849&highlight=MCE |
| 11:11.02 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 11:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo mcebug is also squashed by DocScrutinizer the nasty way |
| 11:11.53 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 11:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: happy now? |
| 11:16.16 | kerio | very |
| 11:16.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: see ^^^ |
| 11:16.24 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: gimme all your money |
| 11:16.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | throws 1EUR32 at kerio |
| 11:17.22 | kerio | amazing :O |
| 11:18.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thanks! reached a clearly defined status thanks to you |
| 11:19.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | available_money=0 looks much better to a computer nerd like me than 'available money="1,32EUR"; ' |
| 11:20.14 | kerio | yeeeah |
| 11:20.17 | kerio | your problem is that you're using a string |
| 11:20.29 | kerio | for what's either an integer or a fixed-point decimal |
| 11:20.45 | federico3 | kudos to DocScrutinizer05 for the syntax |
| 11:21.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, but then I would need a struct of two linked lists, to handle the multiple amounts of alternative currencies |
| 11:22.06 | kerio | >linked list |
| 11:22.08 | kerio | >2014 |
| 11:22.14 | kerio | never heard of cpu caches? |
| 11:23.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: damn you, found a note in swapped out heap memory about a 1000 NTD to lie about somewhere |
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| 11:25.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | actaully that would be one linked list of structs |
| 11:25.51 | kerio | but why are you using linked lists |
| 11:25.53 | kerio | they're so awful |
| 11:26.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | because I talk machine code, not fancy 4G stuff like python or whatnot else |
| 11:27.07 | kerio | especially so |
| 11:27.11 | kerio | arrays are so much nicer |
| 11:27.17 | kerio | and they're much more efficient |
| 11:27.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | in machine code all data structures of unknown rather dy<namic size are linked lists or open arrays with a pointer to the end |
| 11:27.53 | kerio | or, you know |
| 11:28.10 | kerio | an array of 1024 bytes |
| 11:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | an array will either be limited to a certain size, or... meh forget or |
| 11:28.27 | kerio | you're not going to encounter 128 different currencies |
| 11:28.28 | kerio | seriously |
| 11:29.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm neither going to waste 1024 of my precious bytes, and you forget about such nasty currencies with names of 45chars length |
| 11:30.30 | kerio | regardless, only DOGECOIN matters |
| 11:30.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | arrays are only them more efficient when you don't need malloc |
| 11:30.46 | kerio | such value |
| 11:30.48 | kerio | very coin |
| 11:30.52 | kerio | wow |
| 11:31.19 | kerio | bouncing around the memory to access stuff in a linked list is a pretty huge hit tho |
| 11:31.36 | kerio | because of cache misses |
| 11:31.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has an impact on cache, right |
| 11:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | but when you allocate the elements of such linked list in close sequence, odds are you get even same memory page for them |
| 11:33.27 | kerio | the famous contiguous linked list |
| 11:33.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | while for an array you always need a malloc of max size you expect |
| 11:33.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | or of one mmu page |
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| 11:34.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | (mmu also creates a sort of linked list for you, just you don't notice it ;-P) |
| 11:35.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | though *my* mmu seems to work completely different, in my wetware |
| 11:37.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly it seems that freeing memory is somehow flawed |
| 11:37.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | what dogecoin? that thing that weighs half a ton? |
| 11:38.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | and has a diameter of 70cm? |
| 11:38.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | pure gold |
| 11:40.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/devisen-rohstoffe/die-30-millionen-euro-muenze-groesstes-goldstueck-der-welt-kommt-nach-deutschland-12742452.html |
| 11:41.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh sorry! not _half _a ton. And 80cm, not 70 |
| 11:41.50 | kerio | Dogecoin is an open source peer-to-peer digital currency, favored by Shiba Inus worldwide. |
| 11:43.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | now do you think you can make me use google a third time in 3 minutes? no way ;-P |
| 11:43.38 | kerio | http://dogecoin.com/ |
| 11:44.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | also "Shiba Inus" sounds like I don't _want_ to sacrifice vlauable bytes of my wetware storage for it. Told ya memfree() doesn't work |
| 11:44.42 | kerio | but they're so cute |
| 11:45.00 | jaska | wetware storage hasa crappy garbage collector too |
| 11:45.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders what made him remember that 1000kg gold coin |
| 11:45.19 | kerio | are you saying that cute dogs are garbage |
| 11:45.33 | dos1 | I started to mine dogecoins, just for the sake of saying "look I have DOGE so cute" |
| 11:45.40 | kerio | exactly |
| 11:45.44 | dos1 | it was just before its value started to skyrocket |
| 11:45.48 | kerio | "skyrocket" |
| 11:46.22 | dos1 | well, yes - one day i had few cents, few days later could buy new N900 from that :P |
| 11:46.53 | kerio | how many million DOGE did you have |
| 11:47.21 | dos1 | around 1.5 M |
| 11:47.32 | dos1 | at its peak it was worth more than 3 BTC |
| 11:47.48 | dos1 | and BTC was pretty high as well |
| 11:47.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | throws a 1000kg "Australian Kangaroo" at kerio |
| 11:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | now THATS coolman! |
| 11:48.21 | kerio | dos1: cool, gimme a dogecoin |
| 11:48.33 | kerio | hold on i don't even think i still have a wallet |
| 11:49.15 | dos1 | I don't know where I have my one - it's for sure not on N900 ;) |
| 11:49.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | you won't need wallet for "Australian Kangaroo", you need heavy truck ;-P |
| 11:50.45 | sixwheeledbeast | throws 1000kg of feathers at DocScrutinizer05 ;) |
| 11:51.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: wait what?! you say you own virtual currency of any ral value, in a volume of 1.5 million?? |
| 11:51.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | real* |
| 11:51.43 | dos1 | when I got it it didn't have any value :) |
| 11:51.52 | dos1 | and now it's less |
| 11:52.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 11:52.00 | dos1 | already exchanged some of it |
| 11:52.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | sneezes, wipes away a few feathers |
| 11:54.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | puts a kolibri and a refrigerator into a schroedinger box and places the box on a scale |
| 11:55.09 | jaska | making sense is optional |
| 11:55.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't ask me what's the power source of the fridge ;-P |
| 11:55.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaska: exactly |
| 11:56.02 | dos1 | statement both makes sense and doesn't |
| 11:56.08 | dos1 | until it's read |
| 11:56.17 | dos1 | then this superstate collapses ;) |
| 11:56.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaska: is the kolibri already frozen? and how much weighs the box if it isn't? |
| 11:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: fine, you got it :-D |
| 11:58.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | what a shitty day, sipping on a coffee *without milk* :-o |
| 11:58.46 | bencoh | meh, I just read "spinning" :p |
| 11:58.54 | bencoh | damn quantum mechanics |
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| 15:06.35 | Sicelo | thanks DocScrutinizer05. i guess that explains why a reboot 'fixes' the problem |
| 15:07.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: sure, a reboot counts as unlock ;-) |
| 15:07.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | the ambient light level only gets checked during device unlocked |
| 15:08.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you lock the device in bright ambient light, the LED stays dim no matter what the ambient light will change to |
| 15:09.05 | Sicelo | N900 and its surprises, hehe. |
| 15:09.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 15:09.19 | Sicelo | got me a new keymat for mine this weekend :) |
| 15:09.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, i recall on last chaos camp I cursed a lot about N900 LED seemingly broken now on my device |
| 15:09.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: where from? |
| 15:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | those get increasingly hard to source |
| 15:11.04 | Sicelo | some shop had a broken N900, with keymat in perfect condition. |
| 15:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 15:11.30 | Sicelo | i wanted the whole device (without screen part) but they refused |
| 15:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | how many broken N900 had the shop? |
| 15:11.40 | Sicelo | just one |
| 15:11.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 15:12.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for the info anyway :) |
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| 17:50.39 | sixwheeledbeast | is T9.1+thumb1 the version with the reported issues with libc6 |
| 17:50.49 | sixwheeledbeast | ~cssu-thumb |
| 17:50.49 | infobot | methinks cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
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| 18:05.46 | sixwheeledbeast | ~jr-tools |
| 18:05.46 | infobot | from memory, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 21:14.21 | sixwheeledbeast | So we have a recommended source for the tiny PH00 screws holding the display module together? |
| 21:14.33 | sixwheeledbeast | s/So/Do/ |
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| 23:10.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really |
| 23:10.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | they are pretty standard, on interwenbs you can get a dozen per cent, or you pay 7$ for 4 |
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