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| 12:57.22 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | "firmware" see ~combined ~emmc ~flasher sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 12:57.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wb |
| 12:57.25 | infobot | It's great to be back! |
| 12:57.46 | FIQ | hi infobot |
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| 12:59.31 | Snafu777 | smacks infobot |
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| 16:11.46 | sixwheeledbeast | a zero ohm resistor would be a "short" ;) |
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| 16:59.06 | honestly | I have a lot of 0 ohm resistors in my resistor kit |
| 16:59.54 | honestly | they exist (: |
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| 17:05.47 | sixwheeledbeast | I normally keep some handy, they can look better than a link. |
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| 17:28.18 | wizbit | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27908105 |
| 17:28.21 | wizbit | how worrying |
| 17:29.14 | wizbit | i bought my n900 from ebay hong kong :/ |
| 17:30.11 | bencoh | erm, actually I thought those n900 from ebay/hongkong were fake |
| 17:30.15 | bencoh | aren't they ? |
| 17:30.58 | Nokiabot | What is that |
| 17:32.24 | wizbit | my n900 seems real enough? |
| 17:32.34 | wizbit | how can i tell if its fake? |
| 17:32.38 | Nokiabot | What is that link |
| 17:32.54 | Sicelo | wizbit: haha. |
| 17:32.58 | Sicelo | :D |
| 17:33.08 | Sicelo | stop worrying |
| 17:33.11 | bencoh | wizbit: oh well I guess it isnt then ^^ |
| 17:33.47 | bencoh | wizbit: I was referring to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd7IVCV3Jg and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91761 |
| 17:33.59 | Nokiabot | Err |
| 17:34.08 | wizbit | is there a such thing as a fake n900? |
| 17:34.14 | bencoh | seems so |
| 17:34.18 | Sicelo | yes, there are |
| 17:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | HK N900 are "fake" in that they are sold as "new, unusued" but when you open the device you find lots of debris and dust and evidence of repair work |
| 17:34.20 | bencoh | never bought one, so ... |
| 17:34.40 | wizbit | my device does say 'made in finland on it' |
| 17:34.59 | wizbit | however, it works and feels like the real thing |
| 17:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM |
| 17:35.33 | wizbit | aye ok |
| 17:35.45 | wizbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.52 | bencoh | :) |
| 17:35.55 | Nokiabot | Yep i saw one |
| 17:36.05 | Sicelo | wizbit: obviously a fake N900 won't run Maemo |
| 17:36.10 | wizbit | yep true |
| 17:36.29 | Nokiabot | @Docscr yep i saw many |
| 17:36.59 | dos1 | and now everyone will check their amount of ram to ensure that their device is not a fake... :D |
| 17:37.33 | Humpelstilzchen | I have only 8M :( |
| 17:38.07 | Humpelstilzchen | (in the free col) |
| 17:38.13 | FIQ | (19:35:19) (DocScrutinizer05) the "real fake N900" are usually dual-SIM, with some 8MB of RAM |
| 17:38.15 | FIQ | there are fake N900s? |
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| 17:38.17 | Nokiabot | Sicelo: it runs propetiery os that comes with the cpu either genric mtk or spd nowadays mstar but you can find as high as 64 mb now with 256 mb rom |
| 17:38.28 | FIQ | I thought it was too obscure for that, but ok |
| 17:38.37 | Sicelo | ? |
| 17:38.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Humpelstilzchen: as long as it still runs apps from maemo-extras, just don't worry. Chinese copy cats made a miracle device that can run maemo apps in 8MB ;-P |
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| 17:39.14 | bencoh | :D |
| 17:39.19 | FIQ | I would be genuinely surprised if chinese market pulled off making a fake N900 with proper (or even modified) maemo on it |
| 17:39.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: no, those are usually absolutely genuine NOKLA N900 |
| 17:40.09 | FIQ | "usually" |
| 17:40.29 | Nokiabot | Did anyone found any low end device running linux ? |
| 17:40.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, some are not labebeled "NOKLA" |
| 17:40.46 | Nokiabot | Nokai |
| 17:41.00 | Nokiabot | Samgsang |
| 17:42.43 | Nokiabot | Actually nowadays manufacturers are smart they leave the label area and provide sticker labels :p |
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| 18:02.26 | wizbit | where is a cool place to get ringtones? |
| 18:02.37 | wizbit | or can the n900 use a existing mp3 as a ringtone? |
| 18:03.58 | wizbit | also, i tried installing blessN900 but it doesnt work with power kernel installed |
| 18:04.07 | wizbit | does blessN900 really make photos look nicer? |
| 18:05.28 | Sicelo | yes, mp3s work for ringtones, and blessN900 does realy work |
| 18:05.50 | Humpelstilzchen | well if you can't make good photos, software won't help ;) |
| 18:10.59 | wizbit | blessN900 doesnt work with my power kernel :( |
| 18:12.38 | Sicelo | and what power kernel is that? |
| 18:14.53 | wizbit | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l unknown |
| 18:15.26 | Sicelo | i'm using same kernel, and blessN900 works. just reinstall it (blessN900) |
| 18:15.32 | wizbit | ace |
| 18:17.32 | wizbit | installed, restarted and testing |
| 18:18.45 | wizbit | when i open and close the lense cover it says 'operation failed' |
| 18:19.29 | wizbit | and if i launch bless manually it opens then it closes |
| 18:19.30 | Sicelo | you'll have to close stock camera first |
| 18:19.45 | wizbit | how do you do that |
| 18:20.26 | Humpelstilzchen | reboot helps |
| 18:21.12 | wizbit | i will issue: reboot from terminal |
| 18:22.26 | Sicelo | and check TMO .. i do remember theat there was some kernel problem, but iirc a reinstall generally fixed that.. |
| 18:23.17 | wizbit | done a reboot, launched bless, it trys to open then it quits |
| 18:23.45 | wizbit | maybe i need to use a updated version of bless |
| 18:23.49 | wizbit | let me check the version |
| 18:24.11 | Humpelstilzchen | 0.49-4 works for me |
| 18:24.29 | wizbit | im using 0.49-3 |
| 18:24.49 | wizbit | i wonder what repro has 0.49-4 on it |
| 18:25.10 | Humpelstilzchen | 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages |
| 18:25.31 | Humpelstilzchen | but -3 -4 indicates only a packaging, not software update |
| 18:26.32 | Sicelo | i also have 0.49-4 |
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| 18:26.52 | Humpelstilzchen | .o0(too many FIQs) |
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| 18:29.56 | wizbit | maybe the packaging makes it work |
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| 18:45.38 | wizbit | Sicelo: what repro are you using |
| 18:47.26 | wizbit | i need to use FAM |
| 18:49.52 | Sicelo | FAM is apparently a very bad idea |
| 18:50.11 | Sicelo | just download bless from Ovi .. should still be available |
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| 18:53.44 | wizbit | eek ok |
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| 19:11.19 | wizbit | i can see the problem now |
| 19:11.35 | wizbit | if i launch blessN900 from terminal it says |
| 19:11.56 | wizbit | Cannot open /dev/video0 no such directory |
| 19:12.04 | wizbit | so maybe the FCAM drivers dont work my kernel |
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| 19:20.31 | wizbit | found them in extra devl |
| 19:20.35 | wizbit | devel :D |
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| 20:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman |
| 20:50.36 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam |
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| 20:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | with camera drivers it's a known problem that they stay locked to obsolte version when you change kernel. You need to uninstall *all* camera apps that have a dependency to the drivers, then installing the first one a new will pull in the correct drivers for your kernel |
| 20:53.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | obsolete* |
| 20:54.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a brute force method how to do the driver update without uninstalling all camera apps, but I forgot about the details |
| 20:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | and probably odds are that you end up with a garbled package database |
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| 20:57.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: ^^^ |
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| 21:52.47 | sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam |
| 21:52.47 | infobot | from memory, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
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| 23:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | niiiice :-) |
| 23:55.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | while Pali is basically right, he seems to blame the wrong stuff in https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:54:15, evidence: speedyham, courtesy freemangordon. SIXY times faster than stock HAM |
| 23:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIXTY, or HUNDRED even |
| 23:56.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyham |
| 23:56.18 | infobot | rumour has it, speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb, or in cssu-thumb |
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| 23:56.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | who needs fapman when there's speedyHAM? |
| 23:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | kudos, freemangordon |
| 23:57.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | bows down deep |
| 23:58.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo hanvsfam |
| 23:58.24 | infobot | there's no such factoid as hanvsfam, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:58.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo hamvsfam |
| 23:58.30 | infobot | there's no such factoid as hamvsfam, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:58.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? |
| 23:59.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo hamvsfam |
| 23:59.05 | infobot | there's no such factoid as hamvsfam, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam |
| 23:59.20 | infobot | well, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 |
| 23:59.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo hamvsfam |
| 23:59.30 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: there's no such factoid as hamvsfam |
| 23:59.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 23:59.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 23:59.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | <<--- stupid |