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| 11:36.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: hm? |
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| 11:50.03 | live-user | hi DocScrutinizer05 |
| 11:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi to you too |
| 11:51.07 | live-user | DocScrutinizer05, i need some info. can i pm you for a second? |
| 11:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | is it privacy related, or security relevant? |
| 11:53.38 | Apic | Hi Doc |
| 11:53.39 | Apic | Hi live-user |
| 11:53.47 | live-user | hi Apic |
| 11:53.55 | live-user | DocScrutinizer05, its bootloader related. |
| 11:55.27 | live-user | hi again everyone. |
| 11:55.36 | live-user | can someone tell me how to jtag into n900? |
| 11:55.56 | live-user | i have a project in my mind. and i have searched the net w/o any success. |
| 11:56.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: bootloader is a fine topic to discuss here. There are guys who know more about NOLO and bootloader in general than I do |
| 11:56.23 | live-user | aah |
| 11:56.57 | live-user | i am on a livecd. the actual mails are on the hdd. i had exchanged mails with him long back when my net was horrible/terrible its still same, but better. |
| 11:57.15 | live-user | i asked pali to pass me some info on how can i jtag the n900. |
| 11:57.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | JTAG for N900 is a white spot on the map. Nobody did it, it's even unclear if N900 has proper JTAG capabilities - read: if the SoC's JTAG pins are available |
| 11:57.24 | live-user | and he told me he doesnt have a clue. |
| 11:57.50 | live-user | aah |
| 11:58.01 | live-user | how about emmc reading? |
| 11:58.21 | live-user | viz. ripping the emmc and then from there reverse engineering? |
| 11:58.24 | live-user | possible? |
| 11:58.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got some blank unpopulated PCBs here, so I could find out which jtag pin of SoC maybe goes to which testpad |
| 11:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, you lost me on "eMMC reading" |
| 11:59.23 | live-user | that will be excellent, since i got only 1 device. |
| 12:00.37 | live-user | http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1543 something like this. |
| 12:01.05 | live-user | rip the emmc from the board and then put it back on this type of device and try to read/extract data from there |
| 12:01.11 | live-user | i mean something like that. |
| 12:02.20 | live-user | http://gbatemp.net/threads/shadow-lags-wiiu-hacking-and-development-thread.351575/page-2 post no 39 |
| 12:02.48 | live-user | lift it from the main board and then put it on a reader type device and try to extract data |
| 12:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you help me by providing the SoC pin/ball names of the JTAG pins you're interested, then I can try to find out if one of the testpads on http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking#Debug_ports is routed to that SoC pad on my blank PCB http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/platine_01.jpeg |
| 12:03.44 | live-user | DocScrutinizer05, got it. i already been to these sites and the high res photo. |
| 12:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: eMMC reading makes no sense, the whole eMMC is freely accessible on N900/fremantle |
| 12:04.13 | live-user | i will re-read the documents once more, its more than a year since i read it. i need to re-read the document esply the electrical part DocScrutinizer05 |
| 12:05.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Schematic and generally http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:N900_Hardware will help :-) |
| 12:05.58 | live-user | hmmm |
| 12:06.54 | live-user | yes yes i am speaking of this http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Main_Page http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Booting_chain http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Security http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Cryptography |
| 12:07.12 | live-user | i thought i can apply the same logic and hunt for vulnerability. |
| 12:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | vulnerability of what? |
| 12:08.21 | live-user | moto phones got a jtag. thats why i thought if i can find/locate the jtag, i can run the same process on n900. |
| 12:09.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | to what purpose? N900 is not locked like the typical android phone |
| 12:10.22 | live-user | i thought of porting coreboot |
| 12:10.28 | live-user | and thats why. |
| 12:11.42 | live-user | i may be wrong. but the cpu chipset is omap3430 HS. which has efuse |
| 12:11.57 | live-user | and its signed like every other secondary bootloader |
| 12:12.31 | live-user | http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Cryptography might help me extract the keys and i can write a new bootloader. |
| 12:13.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, porting a bootloader is a "simple" matter of producing something that really boots the device, and then get the SoC to load and execute it from >>mtd0: 00020000 00020000 "bootloader"<< or alternatively make it chainload from >>mtd3: 00200000 00020000 "kernel"<< |
| 12:14.13 | live-user | primary bootloader? |
| 12:14.22 | live-user | aka x-loader? |
| 12:14.40 | live-user | i am interested in that. |
| 12:14.48 | live-user | not secondary bootloader. |
| 12:14.53 | hurrian | live-user: the relative scarcity of OMAP HS vs ES parts means that Nokia had to use them unfortunately. |
| 12:15.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, primary and secondary bootloader are both in mtd0 |
| 12:15.37 | hurrian | the first few stages of booting is indeed signed, up to Nokia X-Loader |
| 12:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually first step only |
| 12:16.05 | live-user | yes exactly, thats what i am speaking of. the IBL or initial bootloader. |
| 12:16.07 | hurrian | NOLO aka "secondary" does not need to be signed though |
| 12:16.11 | live-user | i am planning to work on that. |
| 12:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ROMBL is fixed and immutable, it loads xloader from mtd0 and that's the only boot step protected by signature |
| 12:16.56 | live-user | but other than the TI documents i have nothing else and also i dont have the jtag pads/pins that i can employ the same approach. |
| 12:17.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't need JTAG to mess with NOLO |
| 12:17.43 | hurrian | IIRC on OMAP34xx, whatever key you need would likely be in the CPU ROM, and likely shared across all OMAP34xx chips if you really wanted to replace X-Loader |
| 12:17.59 | hurrian | which means, you're looking at decapping. because the N900 doesn't have any known JTAG ports. |
| 12:18.39 | live-user | yes i am trying to do something like that hurrian |
| 12:18.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83880 |
| 12:19.39 | hurrian | so your path from here would either be to pose as $BIG_COMPANY and ask TI nicely for the M-Shield signing tool, or decap an OMAP3. |
| 12:20.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ROMBOOT's crypto key can't get read out from OMAP chip afaik. Not even with JTAG |
| 12:20.15 | hurrian | should you want to decap an OMAP3 and don't want to ruin a perfectly good N900, OMAP3530 HS samples are available from TI. |
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| 12:21.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon know a bit more details about all that security stuff |
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| 12:23.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | but i'm absolutely sure TI and even ARM made sure you can't read out the "public" key from chip. Only the CPU itself has access, and only when it operates in a special mode that protects it from anybody messing with CPU |
| 12:24.22 | hurrian | well, that, plus the fact that during secondary (in stock devices, NOLO) onward, unsigned binaries are allowed, and there are no restrictions on calling the Secure Monitor |
| 12:24.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *guess* the pubkey is fused/flashed to a write-once ROM area of SoC, but it most likely can't get read out from outside the chip |
| 12:25.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hurrian: yep |
| 12:25.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | see the thread I linked above. People patched NOLO |
| 12:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | perfectly feasible, since only x-loader is signed |
| 12:26.19 | hurrian | disabling secure mode by the way can be more of a pain than it sounds like - setting SCR might mess with some optimized ARM-Thumb code paths |
| 12:26.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | x-loader itself drops HS-mode and thus the device irreversibly enters non-secure operation mode which doesn't enforce any signatures |
| 12:27.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
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| 12:27.59 | hurrian | if that was the case, freemangordon wouldn't have to have found the TrustZone control bits to apply the ARM-Thumb errata patch ;) |
| 12:28.13 | hurrian | x-loader just doesn't verify signatures, breaking the chain of trust |
| 12:28.28 | hurrian | but the chip is very much in HS mode, nothing just takes advantage of it |
| 12:28.42 | live-user | "<hurrian> should you want to decap an OMAP3 and don't want to ruin a perfectly good N900, OMAP3530 HS samples are available from TI." but i have only 1 n900 xD |
| 12:29.27 | live-user | pali was exactly teling me the same things in email. hurrian and DocScrutinizer05 |
| 12:29.50 | live-user | but that time my adsl connection used to be not even remain stable for 5 mins. now its stable. |
| 12:30.06 | live-user | but isnt there any way other than decapping it? |
| 12:31.23 | live-user | http://siliconpr0n.org/wiki/doku.php?id=memory:sram azonenberg from ##electronics was telling me its possible. but i need to sacrifice the whole cpu. |
| 12:32.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: you don't need that pubkey, unless you want to write your own version of xloader. I don't see the use of a proprietary xloader |
| 12:32.42 | hurrian | plus, all the hardware bringup you'll need to do to use it... |
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| 12:32.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed :-D |
| 12:33.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | electron microscope and whatnot else |
| 12:33.33 | live-user | hehehe exactly. i gave it a good bye because i dont have the guts nor balls to even play an inch with that. |
| 12:33.48 | hurrian | u-boot in secondary would be more feasible, but if you really want to make a dent, play with https://github.com/winocm/kaikidan ;) |
| 12:34.17 | live-user | thats why i thought if i have the jtag i can read the keys http://droid-developers.org/wiki/Cryptography good adventure project |
| 12:34.24 | hurrian | perhaps you'll get WinRT running on the N900, raising new heights of panic! |
| 12:34.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: anyway for portig coreboot or whatever, simply forget about all that encryption/signature/keys stuff. Simply replace NOLO by your coreboot and hope you did a proper work creating something that *can* boot up the system |
| 12:35.51 | hurrian | (side note: that EDK2 fork does run on BeagleBlack with HDMI output, currently headless on the N900 so you'll need a serial port) |
| 12:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | EDK? |
| 12:36.38 | live-user | yes DocScrutinizer05 looks like #coreboot folks will be pissed as usual. |
| 12:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea what's that doing |
| 12:36.47 | live-user | UEFI edk |
| 12:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, thanks |
| 12:38.35 | live-user | hurrian, lets see how it goes from here. |
| 12:38.56 | live-user | DocScrutinizer05, give me some time i will read the document and will ask you which pin to probe for a few days later. |
| 12:39.29 | live-user | nishant menon told me he cant give me any info other than "yes it possible!" |
| 12:39.50 | live-user | and everything else he said one thing "sorry classified information, cant give you other details" |
| 12:41.32 | hurrian | live-user: try porting pali's u-boot to run as secondary, that's how it runs on most OMAP EVMs. |
| 12:43.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: I don't know what for you need to probe any pins |
| 12:45.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | live-user: unlike typical android phone you have FULL access to bootloader on N900, and it's not even signed |
| 12:45.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | evidence: people already patched NOLO, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83880 |
| 12:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably if it wasn't for the embedded BME (battery charger) bits, Nokia would even have placed NOLO source into public domain |
| 12:52.06 | live-user | i will have to mail pali again. he told me his laptop is broken. i dont know if its fixed. hurrian |
| 12:53.20 | live-user | DocScrutinizer05, i will check all those. i need some time now only my internet is becoming stable i dont know when i will go back to stone age again. |
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| 13:18.49 | Apic | Can i set the N900 Watchdog to a more graceful Period? |
| 13:19.04 | Apic | I'm on the 6th or 7th Try to debootstrap and aptitude install |
| 13:19.12 | Apic | Everytime it crashed somewhere |
| 13:19.19 | Apic | And left the ext3 in a fsck'ed up State. |
| 13:19.28 | Apic | So i had to start over with mkfs.ext3 everytime |
| 13:21.07 | Sicelo | watchdog? |
| 13:21.47 | Sicelo | can't you 'nice' the debootstrap operation? |
| 13:24.09 | bencoh | or do it from another device |
| 13:24.13 | bencoh | at least for stage1 |
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| 13:34.43 | Apic | I _did_ nice itr |
| 13:34.44 | Apic | -r |
| 13:35.02 | Apic | I'll bootstrap on a VM, good Idea! |
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| 14:14.29 | kerio | Apic: fsck on the n900's emmc is a losing battle anyway |
| 14:17.50 | Apic | Ok |
| 14:18.05 | Apic | I meant fucked up |
| 14:18.09 | Apic | I gave up fsck.ext3 too |
| 14:18.22 | Apic | I always start from Scratch |
| 14:18.38 | Apic | Now i'm on a QEMU armel image and do my debootstrap --second-stage |
| 14:18.47 | Apic | Then i'll ftp over the Image |
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| 14:48.42 | Apic | Ok, got it |
| 14:48.45 | Apic | Leeching would take >2h |
| 14:48.49 | Apic | Over WLAN |
| 14:48.53 | Apic | Do not have that Time now |
| 14:48.56 | Apic | Needa run |
| 14:48.57 | Apic | cul8rs |
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| 15:33.51 | sixwheeledbeast | I have noticed that watchdog on one of my devices is very aggressive, I also wondered if there was something variable. |
| 15:33.58 | sixwheeledbeast | ~seen M4rtinK |
| 15:34.01 | infobot | m4rtink <~M4rtinK@mail.melf.eu> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 45d 3h 19m 7s ago, saying: 'the ultimate IDLE RPG channel'. |
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| 17:33.21 | wizbit | day 2.. try and get swap on ssd working without rebooting |
| 17:33.33 | wizbit | first test speed of ssd card |
| 17:33.36 | wizbit | then try another ssd card |
| 17:35.41 | wizbit | also wipe card with zeros |
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| 17:43.58 | ecc3g | wizbit: s/ssd/microsd/ ? |
| 17:44.15 | wizbit | microSD on N900 |
| 17:44.32 | wizbit | there might be bad blocks on it |
| 17:44.43 | ecc3g | you keep writing ssd, was thinking 2.5" units that dont quite fit in the n900 |
| 17:44.43 | wizbit | because my previous phone didnt have this trouble |
| 17:44.55 | wizbit | oh microSD i mean |
| 17:45.10 | wizbit | im dd'ing it with zeros for first test |
| 17:45.12 | bencoh | you could fit a 1.7" :> |
| 17:45.22 | wizbit | then ill run badblocks on it |
| 17:45.23 | bencoh | (but that's not the point) |
| 17:45.31 | wizbit | then ill test speed with hdparm |
| 17:45.34 | ecc3g | swap on microsd worked just fine on my n900... need to make sure the card is unmounted, fdisk, mkswap, and it just works |
| 17:45.46 | bencoh | yeah swap on microsd works fine |
| 17:45.48 | wizbit | im using cfdisk |
| 17:45.50 | bencoh | just dont open the back cover |
| 17:45.50 | wizbit | with it mounted |
| 17:46.03 | ecc3g | only special thing I did was install debian full swapon, so that it would prioritize microsd swap over internal swap |
| 17:46.15 | wizbit | oh interesting |
| 17:46.20 | wizbit | is debian full swapon in extras? |
| 17:46.27 | ecc3g | i believe so |
| 17:46.30 | wizbit | ace |
| 17:46.31 | wizbit | ill do that too |
| 17:46.45 | ecc3g | there's a wiki about it somewhere |
| 17:47.07 | ecc3g | but you need to make sure you unmount all partitions on the microsd card before repartitioning |
| 17:47.07 | wizbit | 1) wipe with zeros 2) test for bad blocks 3) test speed 4) install debian swapon |
| 17:47.16 | wizbit | yep done that already |
| 17:47.33 | wizbit | ecc3g: is it ok to partition it with cfdisk whilst its still inside the n900? |
| 17:48.11 | ecc3g | yes, as long as there are absolutely NO programs using it and it's completely unmounted |
| 17:48.18 | wizbit | yep sure |
| 17:48.36 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: how are you mounting swap at boot? how are you making the swap partition? |
| 17:48.40 | ecc3g | regular fdisk will complain with an ioctl error if anything has the card mounted |
| 17:48.53 | wizbit | i created a 2GB swap partiton using cfdisk |
| 17:48.58 | wizbit | then mkswap |
| 17:49.03 | sixwheeledbeast | on the device? |
| 17:49.04 | wizbit | then swapon the partiton |
| 17:49.09 | wizbit | then swapoff the internal swap |
| 17:49.12 | wizbit | yes |
| 17:49.22 | ecc3g | it will take a while to swapoff the internal swap... |
| 17:49.25 | ecc3g | does it crash or what? |
| 17:49.40 | wizbit | if i open up a few apps, the phone just reboots |
| 17:49.50 | wizbit | internal swap its fine |
| 17:49.56 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm, and how are you mounting the swaps? |
| 17:50.02 | sixwheeledbeast | swap(s) |
| 17:50.19 | wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: first i tried using rcS-late editing the swapon bit to mount the microSD partiton |
| 17:50.31 | wizbit | intead of swapon -a |
| 17:50.31 | sixwheeledbeast | output of "cat /proc/swaps" when you boot? |
| 17:50.49 | sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't edit rcs-late |
| 17:50.50 | wizbit | ok ill do that once ive finished zero'in gthe microSD with DD |
| 17:50.57 | ecc3g | reboot is close enough to a crash. I manually swapon my microsd swap, hoping that I don't need to reboot often. |
| 17:51.20 | wizbit | i need to make sure this microSD card is functioning properly |
| 17:51.24 | ecc3g | you should run badblocks on the microsd card :D |
| 17:51.26 | wizbit | 1) wipe with zeros 2) test for bad blocks 3) test speed 4) install debian swapon |
| 17:51.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I designed flopswap to avoid editing rcs-late. |
| 17:51.28 | ecc3g | (with write mode) |
| 17:51.58 | wizbit | test speed with write mode, sure |
| 17:52.01 | ecc3g | eat a few months off the life of the card, if it hasn't already died |
| 17:52.14 | ecc3g | write speed shouldn't matter |
| 17:52.25 | ecc3g | just means it will take longer to swap |
| 17:52.41 | wizbit | ok so it sounds like it has bad blocks |
| 17:52.44 | wizbit | what else could it be |
| 17:52.45 | sixwheeledbeast | I also recommended people use a desktop to make there swap space(s). I have had reported issues using mkswap on the device. |
| 17:52.51 | sixwheeledbeast | ~flopswap |
| 17:52.51 | infobot | i heard flopswap is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flopswap |
| 17:52.52 | wizbit | ohhh |
| 17:53.07 | wizbit | ok ill do it on desktop linux box |
| 17:53.18 | ecc3g | I think I have a 16GB class 10 unit in it, it was brand new when I put it in. |
| 17:53.41 | wizbit | is there a newer version of mkswap in extras? |
| 17:54.05 | wizbit | dam dont think i have a adapter for microSD card |
| 17:54.10 | wizbit | better order one on ebay |
| 17:54.31 | sixwheeledbeast | can you not mount it in mass storage? |
| 17:54.45 | wizbit | oh never tried that |
| 17:54.48 | wizbit | i got a cable |
| 17:54.53 | sixwheeledbeast | I used gparted |
| 17:54.53 | wizbit | good idea!!! |
| 17:55.00 | wizbit | can i use fdisk? |
| 17:55.07 | ecc3g | I think I just used fdisk |
| 17:55.35 | ecc3g | was a long time ago however... a year or more... |
| 17:55.44 | wizbit | its a 32GB UHS-I so it should be fast enough |
| 17:57.00 | wizbit | its time to install swapon from extras |
| 17:58.25 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
| 17:58.25 | infobot | well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 17:59.22 | wizbit | is this the one: |
| 17:59.23 | wizbit | http://maemo.org/packages/view/swapset/ |
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| 18:00.30 | wizbit | maybe i should use flopswap! |
| 18:01.03 | sixwheeledbeast | up to you, I would but I am biased :D |
| 18:01.06 | ecc3g | yes just use flopswap... sounds good |
| 18:01.40 | sixwheeledbeast | You will need to fix anything you played about with in rcs-late |
| 18:02.11 | sixwheeledbeast | 2x 800MB swap spaces on your card and your sorted. |
| 18:03.29 | wizbit | ace |
| 18:03.37 | wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: wouldnt the swap spaces benefit from being larger? |
| 18:03.47 | kerio | yes |
| 18:03.51 | kerio | not *too* much |
| 18:04.09 | wizbit | 2x 1GB |
| 18:04.14 | ecc3g | I do have to admit that my n900 seems a bit (not that much) less stable using swap on microsd... |
| 18:04.31 | ecc3g | my card is a crappy card though |
| 18:04.35 | ecc3g | noname brand :D |
| 18:04.39 | Sicelo | cfdisk isn't the problem though (just saying) .. i used cfdisk from device to create my swap partition.. never had any issues |
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| 18:07.12 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: yes and no |
| 18:08.15 | sixwheeledbeast | normally yes but because flopswap switches between two spaces I don't thing it's worth wasting the space on the card. |
| 18:08.29 | sixwheeledbeast | s/thing/think/ |
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| 18:09.59 | sixwheeledbeast | 1GB is fine if you wish. You shouldn't go smaller than stock nor too large. |
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| 18:28.42 | wizbit | do you guys overclock your n900? |
| 18:28.48 | wizbit | is it worth the extra battery drain? |
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| 18:31.09 | wizbit | [39621.927307] Spurious irq 95: 0xffffffdf, please flush posted write for irq 83 |
| 18:31.12 | wizbit | eek wonder what that means |
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| 18:35.31 | kerio | wizbit: it's definetely not worth the lifespan reduction |
| 18:36.23 | wizbit | its a brand new card :( |
| 18:37.48 | ecc3g | no overclocking, eats battery, and I have faster computers to do high performance applications. Much faster computers... |
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| 18:39.54 | kerio | idk if my server's faster than my laptop |
| 18:40.08 | kerio | oh hell yes it is |
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| 18:40.52 | kerio | why the fuck do i have a quad i7 to run a nethack public server |
| 18:41.01 | kerio | i'm not paying for it, but still |
| 18:44.34 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't overclock either, nor would recommend it. |
| 18:48.57 | wizbit | i might start looking out for broken n900's see if i can fix them |
| 18:49.18 | wizbit | already got a few spare parts |
| 18:50.00 | sixwheeledbeast | depends what's broken. |
| 18:50.03 | wizbit | the main damage is scrached screens, case and keyboard |
| 18:50.17 | wizbit | i wonder how hard that is to replace |
| 19:04.13 | sixwheeledbeast | sourcing good quality parts maybe the hardest part. |
| 19:33.40 | kerio | sixwheeledbeast: just get those from the broken n900s |
| 19:34.48 | sixwheeledbeast | well, that would be the best way to get used Nokia quality parts I agree. |
| 19:37.17 | ecc3g | I wonder if I should get another good backup n900 before they become impossible to get... |
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| 19:47.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~omap-oc |
| 19:47.23 | infobot | somebody said omap-oc was http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 |
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| 19:47.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~oc |
| 19:47.39 | infobot | i heard oc is an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s |
| 19:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm |
| 19:47.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~overclocking |
| 19:47.58 | infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" |
| 19:48.22 | ecc3g | heh |
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| 20:01.45 | sixwheeledbeast | wonders if cooking in high oleic oil will lower his N900's cholesterol :) |
| 20:03.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: thanks for finally convincing wizbit of flopswap. It already started hurting to watch wizbit trying to get own swap solution working |
| 20:04.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 20:05.29 | wizbit | just plugged my n900 into my linux box |
| 20:05.34 | wizbit | 2x drives get mounted |
| 20:05.47 | wizbit | not mounted - recognized |
| 20:05.50 | wizbit | however when i do this: |
| 20:06.11 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: np |
| 20:06.14 | wizbit | cfdisk /dev/sdh |
| 20:06.15 | wizbit | FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive |
| 20:06.15 | sixwheeledbeast | :) |
| 20:09.46 | wizbit | Bus 002 Device 012: ID 0421:01c7 Nokia Mobile Phones N900 (Storage Mode) |
| 20:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think ass rage mode exports physical devices, only logical volumes. So no cfdisk |
| 20:11.40 | sixwheeledbeast | "ass rage mode" :D |
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| 20:12.04 | wizbit | fdisk doesnt work either |
| 20:12.08 | wizbit | partitions are not shown |
| 20:12.13 | wizbit | maybe im missing kernel modules |
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| 20:15.28 | sixwheeledbeast | Pretty sure I simply plugged uUSB into Desktop, Selected Mass Storage, opened GParted and set everything up. |
| 20:17.46 | wizbit | where do you select mass storage> |
| 20:17.50 | wizbit | on the n900? |
| 20:18.56 | Sicelo | hmm :-/ |
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| 20:21.49 | wizbit | hmmm i think a menu should appear when i plug in device into a machine |
| 20:21.49 | wizbit | im missing a package |
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| 20:37.52 | Sicelo | wizbit: it is generally recommended that your swap partition should not be the first (don't know why) |
| 20:39.18 | wizbit | just rebooted after editing rcS-late |
| 20:39.22 | wizbit | no problems at the moment |
| 20:39.27 | wizbit | it would of restarted by now |
| 20:39.31 | wizbit | got about 5 apps opened |
| 20:39.41 | wizbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.26 | sixwheeledbeast | It's shouldn't be the first as stock Maemo only recognises FAT partition. |
| 20:41.59 | sixwheeledbeast | "cat /proc/swaps" |
| 20:42.23 | wizbit | /dev/mmcblk1p1 partition 1953104 51196 -1 |
| 20:42.50 | wizbit | ohhh maybe thats why |
| 20:42.55 | wizbit | should i change it to the 2nd partiton? |
| 20:44.32 | wizbit | mass storage mode works after a reboot :D |
| 20:45.12 | wizbit | excellent |
| 20:45.18 | sixwheeledbeast | Did you follow the "how to partition" guide on the flopswap wiki ;) |
| 20:45.49 | wizbit | i will do that once im happy swap works |
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| 20:54.44 | wizbit | would it be ok partitoning the first partition as ext3? |
| 20:54.53 | wizbit | i have CSSU installed |
| 20:55.33 | sixwheeledbeast | CSSU-Testing? |
| 20:55.47 | wizbit | no stable |
| 20:56.01 | wizbit | otherwise ill just use vfat |
| 21:00.45 | sixwheeledbeast | Err, IIRC stable can only detect FAT on uSD, think pali pushed changes to CSSU-T for ext |
| 21:01.07 | wizbit | ill use vfat |
| 21:01.11 | wizbit | can use usb drive with that |
| 21:01.14 | wizbit | so more benefits |
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| 21:02.55 | Sicelo | stable can also do ext* :) |
| 21:04.54 | sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: can it, I wasn't sure. I remember getting "Card Unsupported" with a ext3 first partition. |
| 21:05.05 | sixwheeledbeast | maybe this was pr1.3.1 |
| 21:06.04 | Sicelo | yes, it does. i've have ext3 on my uSD for a long time, and only started using Testing recently |
| 21:07.12 | bencoh | yeah it does |
| 21:13.03 | sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo, bencoh: yes, your both correct http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo4_.2805.09.2012.29 |
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| 21:25.48 | wizbit | all sorted im confident its working now |
| 21:25.53 | wizbit | first partiton vfat |
| 21:25.59 | wizbit | 2nd partiton swap |
| 21:26.10 | wizbit | checked blocks for error on both parttiions |
| 21:26.13 | wizbit | thanks for your help :D |
| 21:27.17 | wizbit | i will write all this down incase i lose phone again :D |
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| 21:41.59 | wizbit | thanks for help people :D |
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