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| 10:24.11 | Psi_ | is there any info on flashing rootfs/emmc using debug pads on n900 under battery? |
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| 10:33.14 | Sicelo | is your USB broken? |
| 10:33.23 | Psi_ | im not sure yet |
| 10:33.41 | Sicelo | fix it while there's still time |
| 10:33.45 | Sicelo | ~usb-fix |
| 10:33.45 | infobot | it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, you will basically need two irons: a small good one and a 60+ Watt |
| 10:34.08 | Psi_ | i had charging issues when trying a new kernel, so tried to change again and now it wont even boot. Also cant seem to get the flasher app to see the nokia usb device |
| 10:34.19 | Psi_ | so im wondering if the charge issues were usb socket and not kernel. |
| 10:35.08 | Psi_ | im not too worried, going to buy G3 as soon as they're for sale here |
| 10:35.39 | Sicelo | don't know about you.. but now i really see i need my N900. my usb is also not perfect now :( |
| 10:35.42 | Psi_ | but would be nice if i could get it to boot again, i dont mine if i have to remove the battery and charge it on my RC plan lipo charger every night :P |
| 10:35.53 | Psi_ | plan=plane |
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| 10:36.15 | Sicelo | anyway, answer to your question is that the USB port is accessible from debug ports |
| 10:36.31 | Sicelo | one of the links above shows where |
| 10:36.39 | Psi_ | so the USB pads under the battery are just in parallel to the usb socket? |
| 10:37.10 | Sicelo | yes. testing with a multimeter seemed so |
| 10:37.16 | Psi_ | so i could solder a usb socket onto the pads and it would work just like the real usb socket? |
| 10:37.28 | Psi_ | cool |
| 10:37.34 | Psi_ | that should make it easy to fix the booting issue |
| 10:37.49 | Sicelo | read the threads properly before you do that though.. |
| 10:38.06 | Sicelo | one of the lines has a fuse (not sure if that's VCC) |
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| 10:38.47 | Sicelo | and do speak to people who know better than me.. doc for example |
| 10:39.44 | Psi_ | i currently have my battery on charge so i can try and reflash using the main usb socket. last time i tried the battery was almost flat so that may have been why i couldnt get the USB dev to appear |
| 10:40.43 | Psi_ | i should install a boot menu that can run OS from uSD. That way i dont need working usb to get OS running or fix os problems |
| 10:44.55 | Psi_ | hm. d+ and d- from usb socket connect to pads under battery correctly. so those wires are ok |
| 10:44.58 | Psi_ | gnd also seems good |
| 10:45.47 | Sicelo | as long as you remember battery V- is not GND |
| 10:45.49 | Sicelo | :) |
| 10:45.54 | kerio | waaaait |
| 10:46.03 | kerio | are you sure that those pads aren't for the rapuyama usb port? |
| 10:46.26 | Psi_ | dmm says they are shorted more or less |
| 10:46.55 | Psi_ | (to usb socket) |
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| 11:18.22 | Psi_ | this is what i get when i plug my n900 into linux PC http://pastebin.com/949NjWzL |
| 11:18.27 | Psi_ | (from linux PC logs) |
| 11:29.51 | joga | Psi_, as far as I know, using the test pads is not safe, ie. should you plug it in something out of spec or flaky, it might go kablooie |
| 11:31.13 | joga | ie. if you wanted to use them for charging etc. it might work but there's no protection there to shield you from voltage spikes or so (I think at least) |
| 11:31.16 | Psi_ | yeah, but considering its dead atm |
| 11:31.30 | Psi_ | na, i just want to reflash the rootfs and emmc so it boots |
| 11:32.26 | Psi_ | according to the DMM one of the USB data lines only has 16ohms to usb VCC |
| 11:32.29 | Psi_ | which seems odd |
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| 11:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~weather eddn |
| 11:42.41 | Defiant | were does infobot fetch the data from? |
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| 12:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help weather |
| 12:16.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~weather |
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| 12:17.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~weather eddn |
| 12:21.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopNm1787.png |
| 12:28.03 | Psi_ | n900 wont boot from uSD card without some mods will it? |
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| 14:03.35 | Snafu777 | DocScrutinizer05: http://pastebin.com/090ifz6U |
| 14:03.44 | Snafu777 | There is the sd card issue error |
| 14:06.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: starting at [ 1308.664093] Spurious DMA IRQ |
| 14:06.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | all the rest could be induced by this |
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| 14:15.20 | Snafu777 | Hmm |
| 14:16.10 | Snafu777 | So would you think that is a hardware issue of some type DocScrutinizer05 ? |
| 14:16.54 | Snafu777 | Ooo. Documented http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-64247.html |
| 14:19.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | god! why archive? |
| 14:20.37 | Snafu777 | At least I'm not alone. Sounds to be like a hardware, send back to Nokia, oh wait... Damn, now I need to buy a new one type issue to me |
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| 14:24.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: tmo search is borked! returns empty page http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=process |
| 14:25.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, depending on search string? |
| 14:26.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it fails for search:"Help n900 sd card problem" |
| 14:27.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, Snafu777 here you are: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64247 |
| 14:27.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | please don't use 2archive" ! |
| 14:28.09 | Snafu777 | Heh. Wow, Never seen this before. It seems ipv6 is actually in use: error: Failed to connect to 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::71: Network is unreachable while accessing https://code.google.com/p/lorcon//info/refs?service=git-upload-pack |
| 14:29.02 | Snafu777 | And to get ipv6 support, it seems I have to update my kernel-power .deb |
| 14:29.29 | Snafu777 | is not happy, the last time he did this, his battery life, and the capability to maintain a stable access point via airbase-ng was severly affected |
| 14:29.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: I still fail to clearly understand whether that probelm of yours is about eMMC or about uSD |
| 14:30.34 | Snafu777 | I've no idea DocScrutinizer05 =). I just know I promised to you that I would paste the issue when I came across it |
| 14:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | to avoid all ambiguities that come in here by kernel renaming stuff, you should remove your uSD |
| 14:30.49 | Snafu777 | I popped the error when I attempted to copy from my SD card to the n900 |
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| 14:31.19 | Snafu777 | Oh, I was just moaning about the ipv6 and kernel stuff. Kind of a side story |
| 14:31.30 | Snafu777 | If I want ipv6, I must upgrade... Not a big deal |
| 14:31.45 | Snafu777 | Definately my "problem" is the sd card, but that seems to be a hardware issue based on the forums |
| 14:32.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | eMMC or uSD? both qualify for the term 2sd card" |
| 14:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | and both sometimes are mmcblk0 and sometimes mmcblk1 |
| 14:33.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, afk |
| 14:34.09 | Snafu777 | /dev/mmcblk1p1 |
| 14:34.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | when your problem is the uSD, then get a new card and discard this one |
| 14:34.27 | Snafu777 | That's just it |
| 14:34.30 | Snafu777 | This is the tenth one |
| 14:34.49 | Snafu777 | Just find it highly suspect it's the uSD when ten in a row all fail |
| 14:34.52 | Snafu777 | Diff makes and models |
| 14:35.02 | Snafu777 | Can you recommend one? |
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| 14:57.31 | hurrian | Snafu777: is it a "Class 10" uSD card? |
| 14:57.42 | hurrian | whoops, looks like he left. |
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| 17:10.41 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: tmo search was broken at migration |
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| 17:31.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: yes, I know there been garbage in search cache |
| 17:31.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | got fixed for all I know |
| 17:32.28 | sixwheeledbeast | :shrug: |
| 17:33.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | search:"Help n900 sd card problem" fails, as did "sd card problem" (iirc) - "sd" gets omitted for too short, this leaves either card or problem being flawed/tainted as search term |
| 17:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 17:35.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | "Help n900 sd card problem" still fails |
| 17:36.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | "sd card problem" works, resulting in >>Search: Keyword(s): card, problem<< |
| 17:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, again "N900" that's broken |
| 17:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | "n900 sd card problem" fails, "n900 froblutrobb" *succeeds* o.O |
| 17:39.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | "n900 sd card" fails |
| 17:40.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course "n900 card" fails as well then |
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| 17:42.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | "n900 cards", "n900 sdcards", "n900 microsdcards" fails |
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| 17:43.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | "icrosdcards n900" (SIC) -> >>Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.<< |
| 17:45.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | "microsdcards n900" works, "n900 microsdcards" fails |
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| 17:46.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: bug report: tmo search broken for some search strings starting with "n900", probably search cache inconsistent again |
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| 20:49.59 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: what are the "some" search strings? cannot reproduce! |
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| 21:25.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: "microsdcards n900" works, "n900 microsdcards" fails |
| 21:26.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | see last ~15 lines above |
| 21:28.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | just this very second verified it again. place "n900 microsdcards" into search field upper right of an arbitrary tmo page, hit enter (or click "Go") ---> http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=process |
| 21:28.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | blank page |
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| 21:32.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopjZ1787.png "Go" -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktopXs1787.png -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/06/09/plasma-desktoplx1787.png (SIC! blank page, after several (5..10?) seconds) |
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| 21:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: I can't explain this one though: "n900 microsdcards" fails, "n900 froblutrobb" *succeeds* o.O |
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| 22:26.17 | chem|st | uh that search engine... |
| 22:27.03 | chem|st | that it takes 5-10 seconds is your problem, I get a blank page after 2 seconds... |
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| 22:29.11 | chem|st | you should get fwded to the search page, it is "no results" but should not show a blank |
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