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| 03:31.59 | Gear | has anyone used SHR |
| 03:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, dos1 |
| 03:32.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI |
| 03:32.47 | Gear | what? |
| 03:33.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you ask that every day at this time? :-) |
| 03:34.20 | Gear | I don't think so |
| 03:34.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-05-27 Tue 05:20:08] <Gear> has anyone here tried SHR? |
| 03:34.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-05-27 Tue 06:50:20] <DocScrutinizer05> yes, dos1 |
| 03:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-05-27 Tue 06:51:19] <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI |
| 03:34.49 | Gear | that was a different time |
| 03:34.55 | Gear | :D |
| 03:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, you're not very precise |
| 03:36.01 | Gear | also I left, it seemed like you were talking to dos1 |
| 03:36.42 | Gear | that video doesn't show it making calls or doing any phone stuff |
| 03:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 03:37.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, yep. But it does |
| 03:37.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least supposed to do |
| 03:37.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: ^^^ |
| 03:38.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you're lucky, he will answer in a few hours |
| 03:39.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | said n8 a 2h ago |
| 03:40.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | anywy SHR is supposed to be one of the supported OS for Neo900 |
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| 03:57.59 | Gear | but also the n900 which is the only phone I have? |
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| 04:05.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know about current status of phonecall audio |
| 04:06.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | searchword: cmtspeech |
| 04:06.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad tricky |
| 04:08.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | the CPU is master for the audio PCM, but modem sends timing messages to CPU so the actually PCM clock speed stays in sync with the GSM voice datarate |
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| 04:10.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | last time I looked into it was when I helped design the double-headed buffer for that, to plumb the linux land audio clock domain to the modem audio timing |
| 04:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that's been quite some time ago, dunno the results of that |
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| 05:18.27 | Maxdamantus | "recalculating pi"? |
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| 05:23.27 | bleb | If I want audio files copied from my computer to show up in Media Player, where do I copy them on the N900? There's .sounds/ and .video/ but no .music/ |
| 05:23.59 | Maxdamantus | I think you're meant to be able to put them anywhere. |
| 05:24.12 | Maxdamantus | then the indexer thing's meant to find them. |
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| 05:25.53 | bleb | hmm well Media Player is showing |
| 05:26.13 | bleb | hmm well Media Player is showing "no songs" after copying some songs and restarting the application |
| 05:28.13 | Maxdamantus | Ah. Look at ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg |
| 05:28.18 | Maxdamantus | That has the paths it searches in. |
| 05:38.07 | bleb | ok thats illuminating... still not working though. Looking at my MyDocs folder via xterm on my N900, I don't see anything (just DCIM). But in /media/Nokia\ N900/ on my computer, there's quite a lot of stuff, including the music I'm trying to load on. Any idea where this descrepency is coming from? |
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| 05:51.54 | Maxdamantus | bleb: is it still plugged in using USB? |
| 05:52.18 | Maxdamantus | bleb: only one of the N900 or your computer can use the MyDocs filesystem at a time. |
| 05:52.33 | Maxdamantus | bleb: when you plug it into USB, the N900 unmounts it from itself so the computer can use it. |
| 05:54.34 | Maxdamantus | wonders when there's going to be a proper mainstream general-purpose filesystem suitable for USB. |
| 05:54.51 | Maxdamantus | well, when there's going to be one in use. |
| 05:55.03 | Maxdamantus | (MTP doesn't count) |
| 05:56.25 | Maxdamantus | You'd think at least Google would be interested in promoting something. |
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| 11:09.26 | arvut | the game super tux, as ported to the maemo5 OS, does tux actually say "TUXONICE!" when starting every level? |
| 11:09.47 | arvut | I just realized that might be what tux is saying |
| 11:10.36 | arvut | working on a tuxonice-kernel for my gentoo machine. would be awesome to have a nokia n900 with tuxonice on |
| 11:10.41 | arvut | could be possible |
| 11:12.50 | chem|st | arvut: you might be better off in #maemo-ssu |
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| 13:42.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | why #maemo-ssu? this is not exactly CSSU related, no? |
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| 15:03.22 | bleb | Maxdamantus: sorry I left you hanging - had to go to bed. Anyways disconnecting the N900 from the USB port seems to work, allowing me to transfer data/songs to my N900 at last. (I thought I had tried it already but maybe I just unmounted it and didn't physically disconnect my N900). Thanks a lot! |
| 15:03.58 | Maxdamantus | np |
| 15:04.35 | Maxdamantus | has g_ether always loaded so it doesn't unmount anything. |
| 15:05.01 | Maxdamantus | has everything on a single partition anyway. |
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| 15:50.34 | Defiant | so neo900 has been canceled? |
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| 15:57.58 | kerio | wait what |
| 15:57.59 | kerio | why? |
| 15:59.15 | Apic | WTF? |
| 15:59.20 | florian | I don't think so... |
| 16:13.37 | federico3 | huh? |
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| 16:37.57 | Defiant | I got a mail |
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| 16:38.36 | Defiant | they want to refund my money |
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| 16:46.20 | kerio | perhaps you should read your emails |
| 16:47.13 | Defiant | I did |
| 16:47.14 | Defiant | The orders Golden Delicious Computers (GDC) has received have to |
| 16:47.14 | Defiant | be "rolled back". Since the "roll back" voids your agreement with GDC, |
| 16:47.15 | Defiant | all those who sent 100 EUR or more get a refund. |
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| 16:57.07 | bef0rd | Defiant: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93197 |
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| 16:59.28 | thedead1440 | so another stick to beat Doc with? the F/OSS community certainly seems to have a self-destruct button ready for every small disagreement in viewpoints; see fk_lx vs jolla for another ongoing "mountain out of molehill" |
| 17:00.24 | Defiant | sorry I don't get it, the mail speaks only about refund |
| 17:04.11 | bef0rd | http://neo900.org/news-0011-progress-update-may |
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| 17:49.56 | ant_ | hi |
| 17:50.39 | ant_ | any1 online? |
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| 17:51.41 | freemangordon | ~ask |
| 17:51.41 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 17:51.43 | honestly | my n900 only charges when it's connected to a computer, not from a power only usb connection. is that normal / can it be fixed? |
| 17:52.23 | freemangordon | honestly: what is "power only usb connection"? |
| 17:52.47 | honestly | usb power adapters |
| 17:53.32 | honestly | like the wall wart that comes with most android phones |
| 17:53.49 | ant_ | i've restored rootfs and optfs from pwnphone backups, also installed it correctly (not from the mmc tho). I've created a symlink /media/mmc1/pwnimage -> /home/user/MyDocs/pwnimage. That was my error. Now the phone wont boot up, ir rebbots on Nokia screen constantly. Do I have to reflash the phone? |
| 17:54.11 | ant_ | boot menu wont start also |
| 17:54.18 | freemangordon | honestly: two possible things - either d+/d- are not shortened or n900 tries to draw more current than the charger can provide |
| 17:54.34 | freemangordon | so overcurrent protection cicks in |
| 17:54.38 | freemangordon | *kicks |
| 17:54.46 | honestly | this one is rated 2A |
| 17:55.02 | honestly | and it has never worked on anything i tried |
| 17:55.24 | honestly | i guess i should try taking a usb cable and shorting those pins? |
| 17:55.48 | ant_ | the phone also tries to boot up after connecting to any power source. but it fails every time. |
| 17:56.12 | freemangordon | ant_: what kernel is supposed that "pwnphone backups" to boot? |
| 17:56.31 | honestly | (do you mean shortcircuiting when you say shortening?) |
| 17:56.59 | freemangordon | honestly: did you try with Nokia ac100 adapter? |
| 17:57.03 | ant_ | that might be it. I have installed powerkernel before installing pwnphone. Althought I believe it installs it owns kernel with packet injection etc. |
| 17:57.17 | honestly | i don't have a nokia adapter |
| 17:57.23 | honestly | so no. |
| 17:57.44 | freemangordon | ant_: but what kernel is flashed? does it have the needed modules in the rootfs you've restored? |
| 17:58.27 | ant_ | How should I check it If Iam not able to do anything with the phone? |
| 17:59.09 | freemangordon | honestly: you'd better find some original nokia charger |
| 18:00.01 | honestly | freemangordon: i need a car charger, when i have mains power i also have a running computer to plug it into (: |
| 18:00.18 | freemangordon | ant_: I guess you can somehow mount the rootfs image and check what is in /lib/modules. and flash the appropriate kernel with flasher3.5 |
| 18:00.20 | honestly | are there chargers from nokia for that? |
| 18:00.24 | freemangordon | yes |
| 18:00.34 | freemangordon | ac35??? lemme check |
| 18:02.19 | ant_ | freemangordon: I can only see whats in the package I have on my hdd. I cant mount the n900 anyhow (or please tell me how) |
| 18:02.39 | honestly | thanks, i'll find it myself whenever i'm back from this vacation :D |
| 18:03.26 | ecc3g | having a good cable and supply is paramount... so many bad cables around... |
| 18:03.47 | honestly | "good cable"? |
| 18:04.49 | ecc3g | I had like 4 different microusb cables that simply doesn't charge quickly... and found three or four that will charge at high rate to the same USB port |
| 18:04.58 | honestly | okay |
| 18:05.47 | freemangordon | ant_: |
| 18:05.49 | freemangordon | ~rescueos |
| 18:05.49 | infobot | rumour has it, rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ |
| 18:06.25 | freemangordon | ant_: you can mount rootfs within it |
| 18:06.35 | ecc3g | those $1 store wall plug to USB adaptors are miserable. The $1 store car chargers work fine however. |
| 18:07.01 | freemangordon | ecc3g: they provide 1200+ mA? |
| 18:07.03 | honestly | yeah i think i'll build myself an adapter with shorted pins |
| 18:07.44 | honestly | 19:54:46 < honestly> this one is rated 2A |
| 18:07.49 | honestly | (: |
| 18:07.57 | ecc3g | I think if it will supply at least 700mA, I'm happy... and they do... |
| 18:08.16 | ecc3g | the trouble are the ones that can't even do 500mA |
| 18:08.40 | honestly | well it's just a direct connection to the car's 12V bus, with a fuse or two inbetween if you're lucky. |
| 18:08.40 | ecc3g | also what's printed is nowhere near what it actually provides... |
| 18:08.51 | honestly | and a step-down converter. |
| 18:08.55 | ant_ | ok so should i rip the im on the pendrive/cd and boot whole machine from the image? |
| 18:09.14 | ant_ | img* |
| 18:09.36 | ant_ | ok the documentation says everything I hope |
| 18:09.38 | ant_ | thanks |
| 18:09.57 | honestly | there aren't many ways to do that wrong unless you use a really bad voltage converter |
| 18:10.06 | freemangordon | ant_: no, you just boot rescueos with flsher |
| 18:10.40 | ecc3g | I have exactly one wall wart that charges my n900 at high speed. ANd it's not even my AC10C |
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| 18:11.11 | honestly | that said i'd love to pull this thing apart, look at the circuit, and maybe look up the specs of the converter |
| 18:11.26 | freemangordon | ecc3g: 700 mA is simply not enough, n900 easily jumps above 1A while charging |
| 18:12.15 | freemangordon | while being used ofc |
| 18:12.21 | ecc3g | 700mA is good enough to maintain charging. As long as you're not using it at the same time |
| 18:12.28 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 18:12.44 | freemangordon | hmm, wait |
| 18:13.05 | freemangordon | fastcharge is ~800 mA IIRC |
| 18:13.09 | honestly | there's no reason to stop charging if the charge current is small, unless of course the charge current is less than the phone draws. |
| 18:13.15 | ecc3g | it's close enough. |
| 18:13.30 | bef0rd | I think the official charger is 1A |
| 18:13.35 | freemangordon | 1.2A |
| 18:13.48 | ant_ | any trusted sites for newest flasher for mac os then? |
| 18:14.00 | honestly | and my usb port is loose ): |
| 18:14.08 | ecc3g | the official charger is 1.2A. My "official" charger won't do more than 400mA or so... it's broken. |
| 18:14.18 | ant_ | http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_flasher-3-5_tool_beta_for_fremantle_and_diablo_released/ this? |
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| 18:15.00 | ant_ | does not work |
| 18:15.16 | bef0rd | I had issues trying to flash with OSX ant_, can't remember if I was flashing n9/n900, had better luck with the windows/linux flasher |
| 18:15.42 | ant_ | ill try with windows when I get home then. thank you all |
| 18:17.13 | freemangordon | ant_: try to google for the flasher |
| 18:17.16 | freemangordon | ~flasher |
| 18:17.16 | infobot | [flasher] at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 18:19.48 | ant_ | yeah sure running utrusted execs is ro really cool |
| 18:20.45 | ant_ | dont ever do that. but thanks :-) |
| 18:21.13 | bef0rd | there are mirrors for the flasher, you can check md5sums |
| 18:21.23 | bef0rd | but when I tried it on a recent OSX it didn't work |
| 18:23.18 | freemangordon | ant_: as bef0rd said - you can check md5 sums |
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| 18:25.13 | bef0rd | ant_: http://blog.omgmog.net/post/factory-reset-nokia-n900-from-a-mac/ |
| 18:25.50 | ant_ | I've seen it, have mavericks thought :-) |
| 18:26.09 | ant_ | thats the page where I have found #mameo info :-) |
| 18:26.36 | ant_ | just didnt know thats the only way, I thought its possible to boot with some special key or smth |
| 18:29.33 | ant_ | i will try in 2-3h bbl :-) thanks again |
| 18:35.15 | bef0rd | sure |
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| 18:48.30 | ecc3g | trouble with maemo, there is no company behind it anymore... have to trust community... |
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| 18:52.56 | freemangordon | ecc3g: isn't it better? |
| 18:57.40 | ant_ | haha macos may have problems with converting hfs to ext |
| 18:58.19 | ant_ | ok so reinstalling rootfs from flasher is not a problem right? |
| 18:59.04 | freemangordon | sure |
| 18:59.16 | freemangordon | or rather "flashing" |
| 18:59.28 | ant_ | yeah ok |
| 18:59.43 | ant_ | my archive might be corrupted |
| 18:59.50 | freemangordon | ant_: oh, you were afraid your device is bricked? |
| 19:00.05 | ant_ | but the boot menu said it was completed succesfully |
| 19:00.35 | freemangordon | ant_: there is no way to brick n900 given the USB port is intact |
| 19:00.39 | ant_ | more like I was pissed of I will miss some time till I finish ;/ |
| 19:01.02 | ant_ | loose* |
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| 19:33.25 | ant_ | /wi/window 8 |
| 19:33.28 | ant_ | whops |
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