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04:14.47DocScrutinizer05well
04:15.29DocScrutinizer05[2014-05-22 Thu 00:38:04] <-- infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) has left this server (Ping timeout: 265 seconds).    [2014-05-22 Thu 04:07:51] <infobot> DocScrutinizer: infobot joined!
04:17.29DocScrutinizer05the problem with infobot is: she's not rejoining/re-authenticating, actually doesn't even detect when getting disconnected
04:35.13MaxdamantusDoes infobot have any regex things accessible?
04:39.34Maxdamantuspurldoc a
04:42.35Maxdamantussupercalifragilisticexpealidocious
04:42.44Maxdamantussupercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh
04:42.46Maxdamantussupercalifragilisticexpealidocious
04:42.59Maxdamantuswhat is supercalifragilisticexpealidocious?
04:43.36Maxdamantus~supercalifragilisticexpealidocious is meh
04:43.37infobotthat's too long, Maxdamantus
04:43.39Maxdamantus~supercalifragilisticexpealidocious
04:43.46Maxdamantus:\
04:44.03Maxdamantus~testingonetwo is meh
04:44.03infobotMaxdamantus: okay
04:44.33Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/e./aaa/
04:44.33infobotthat doesn't contain 'e.', Maxdamantus
04:44.52Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/eh/aaa/
04:44.52infobotOK, Maxdamantus
04:45.12Maxdamantus~purldoc a
04:45.53Maxdamantus~showdb
04:47.19Maxdamantus~whatdbs
04:47.19infobotdbs is probably Disappearing Browser Syndrome.  Commonly found in most Netscape products.
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04:52.55DocScrutinizer05umm
04:55.00DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: what you're after?
04:55.20MaxdamantusJust seeing if it has any places for users to write regex.
04:55.28Maxdamantusin which case you could probably freeze the bot indefinitely.
04:55.42DocScrutinizer05nope, it doesn't use regex
04:55.55MaxdamantusMm .. I think it might be for that reason.
04:56.15DocScrutinizer05s/ is a fake
04:56.27DocScrutinizer05s/ake/AKE/
04:56.52DocScrutinizer05s/a/A/
04:57.00DocScrutinizer05s/a/A/g
04:57.11Maxdamantuseg, /(a?){50}a{50}/ will take Perl thousands of years to match "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
04:57.26DocScrutinizer05xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
04:57.53DocScrutinizer05s/x/asdfghjkl#######1234566#######/g
04:58.15MaxdamantusIt's something*1.93902^(x - 22.3872)
04:58.18Maxdamantuscalculated it.
04:59.00Maxdamantus(where `something` is some amount of time, dependent on the machine) and `x` is the number of as.
04:59.10DocScrutinizer05:nod:
04:59.33DocScrutinizer05ibot doesn't do any patterns
04:59.52DocScrutinizer05simple strcmp()
04:59.54MaxdamantusFor the machine running candide, that was 1.02821 s.
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05:01.03MaxdamantusOh, that's only 2.84 years.
05:01.07Maxdamantus(for 50)
05:01.19Maxdamantus60 is 2136 years.
05:02.49Maxdamantuswonders if the Perl developers are ever going to fix it.
05:14.00Maxdamantus~testingonetwo
05:14.01infoboti guess testingonetwo is maaa
05:14.16Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
05:14.16infobotMaxdamantus: OK
05:14.30MaxdamantusHm. Throttle.
05:14.36Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
05:14.36infobotOK, Maxdamantus
05:14.49Maxdamantuswhistles.
05:14.58Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
05:14.58infobotMaxdamantus: OK
05:15.21MaxdamantusMaybe you have to say something inbetween.
05:15.23Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
05:15.24infobotMaxdamantus: OK
05:15.27Maxdamantus.
05:16.24MaxdamantusSo it does enforce a maximum length.
05:16.27Maxdamantus~testingonetwo =~ s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/
05:16.27infobotMaxdamantus: that's too long
05:17.02DocScrutinizer05~query
05:17.03infobottalk dirty to me! Preferably, do so after you have typed "/query infobot" which should open a new window/tab/whatever with most irc clients. You can talk to me all you like and don't annoy other people with endless queries. Be aware that the stuff you write is logged, so don't get too 1337 :)
05:18.59DocScrutinizer05~testingonetwo
05:18.59infoboti guess testingonetwo is maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
05:19.09MaxdamantusApparently the string should be 82 GiB
05:20.05DocScrutinizer05~testingonetwo =~ s/m/X/
05:20.05infobotOK, DocScrutinizer05
05:20.09DocScrutinizer05~testingonetwo
05:20.09infobothmm... testingonetwo is Xaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
05:21.05DocScrutinizer05~forget testingonetwo
05:21.06infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot testingonetwo
05:22.36DocScrutinizer05~+status
05:22.36infobotSince Thu May 22 02:05:48 2014, there have been 2 modifications, 6 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands.  I have been awake for 3h 16m 48s this session, and currently reference 119268 factoids.  I'm using about 21052 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 19.72/0.61 child 0/0
05:23.54kerioMaxdamantus: i thought that regular expressions with backreferences just... can't be efficient?
05:24.32DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: btw your string isn't 82GiB - you forgit /g
05:24.41DocScrutinizer05forgot*
05:25.40DocScrutinizer05but I'd rather not see you testing it again, bot already told you that string length even for s/// result is limited
05:25.53MaxdamantusOh, there's a g.
05:26.16Maxdamantuskerio: it's not a backreference.
05:26.27Maxdamantuskerio: and that regex can be efficient.
05:27.00kerio*that* regex, sure
05:27.02keriobut in general?
05:27.03MaxdamantusThe hardest bit would be accomodating arbitrary repetition subscripts.
05:27.20Maxdamantusbut if you just expanded it (which works fine with 50), you could keep a cache at each node.
05:27.44Maxdamantusif you rewrite that regex without the repetition, perl still struggles with it.
05:27.47kerioregular expressions without backreferences are obviously equivalent to nondeterministic finite automata which are kinda obviously equivalent to deterministic finite automata
05:27.59Maxdamantusmy formula was actually for the expanded form.
05:28.19Maxdamantus/(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)(a?)aaaaa/ etc
05:28.39Maxdamantusin general, yes, you can handle that efficiently.
05:28.43Maxdamantusin linear time, that is.
05:29.18Maxdamantus.. and input*regexlen space.
05:29.59Maxdamantus(without using DFAs/NFAs)
05:32.39DocScrutinizer05~since ibot doesn't use regex, you can hardly do any of that ;-)
05:33.47DocScrutinizer05a, b, {, x
05:33.55DocScrutinizer05s/b/B/
05:34.10DocScrutinizer05s/{/}/
05:34.22DocScrutinizer05s/,/;/
05:34.50Ashley`huh
05:34.59DocScrutinizer05"special" char
05:35.14Ashley`s/h/\;/
05:35.36DocScrutinizer05forget it, it doesn't do regex
05:36.11Ashley`s/h/m/;s/u/e/;s/h/ow/
05:36.26Ashley`what does that ; do?
05:36.35DocScrutinizer05nothing
05:36.40Ashley`oh.
05:37.03Ashley`i thought that it is special because of some special meaning :P
05:37.48DocScrutinizer05s!o!O!
05:38.16DocScrutinizer05s/!/ยก/g
05:39.08DocScrutinizer05there's also only /g and noting else (allowed)
05:39.53DocScrutinizer05s/o/x/;
05:40.09DocScrutinizer05s/o/x/
05:40.30DocScrutinizer05s/o/Y/
05:43.47Maxdamantusecho 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g'
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05:46.39Maxdamantusecho 9876543210 | sed 's/./&9&8&7&6&5&4&3&2&1/g; s/../&b/g; s/b\(..\)/b\1c\1/g; s/\(..\)b/\1 bottles of beer on the wall, \1 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around, /g; s/c/ bottles of beer. /g; s/$/no more bottles of beer./; s/ 0/ /g; s/\( 1 bottle\)s/\1/g; s/\. /.\n/g'
05:46.43MaxdamantusMore readable.
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05:49.55Maxdamantus/home/max=foo
05:50.03Maxdamantuss/=/\//
05:50.31Maxdamantus/home/max=foo
05:50.34Maxdamantuss/=///
05:50.54Maxdamantuss/=//
05:53.08DocScrutinizer05\ is no special char, "," is a special char, and ";" is
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05:54.21DocScrutinizer05and all except "s/$1/$2/" and "s/$1/$2/g" is a normal psot of user that gets buffered, not a command
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05:55.25Maxdamantuskats
05:55.29Maxdamantuss/k/c/
05:55.34Maxdamantuss/cat/dog/
05:55.36DocScrutinizer05no special chars in $1 or $2
05:55.55Maxdamantuskats
05:55.58Maxdamantuss/k/c/
05:55.59DocScrutinizer05buffer doesn't get altered on s/ command
05:56.07Maxdamantuss/s/x/
05:57.09DocScrutinizer05xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
05:57.26DocScrutinizer05s/x/ooooooooooooooooY/g
05:58.19DocScrutinizer05* and . and dunno what are all no special chars
05:58.28DocScrutinizer05it does strcmp()
05:58.57DocScrutinizer05has nfc about regex
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06:02.58DocScrutinizer05actually I'm surprised it does substitutions in factoids at all
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06:08.26DocScrutinizer05http://svn.code.sf.net/p/infobot/code/branches/poco-irc/files/infobot.help
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06:11.46DocScrutinizer05~+help cookie
06:12.31DocScrutinizer05~+help crypt
06:21.08keriofun fact: nethack.alt.org and most other nethack/crawl public servers do (or used to) crypt(password, password) to store the password of user accounts
06:21.22kerioso the first two characters of the password end up as the salt
06:21.37kerioand characters from the ninth onwards are just discarded
06:25.38DocScrutinizer05~+help listvalues
06:26.02DocScrutinizer05~listvalues mae.o
06:26.14DocScrutinizer05~listvalues maemo
06:26.54Ashley`~0xffff
06:26.54infoboti heard 0xffff is https://gitorious.org/0xffff/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996
06:27.16DocScrutinizer05which is kinda funny
06:27.25DocScrutinizer05~0xffff + 1
06:27.55DocScrutinizer05~0xAA + 1
06:28.20DocScrutinizer05*shrug*
06:28.41DocScrutinizer05she's not really strong in math
06:29.08DocScrutinizer05~40!
06:29.08infobotrumour has it, 40! is 815,915,283,247,897,734,345,611,269,596,115,894,272,000,000,000
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06:29.50kerio~41!
06:29.50infobothmm... 41! is 33,452,526,613,163,807,108,170,062,053,440,751,665,152,000,000,000
06:29.58keriobrilliant
06:30.20DocScrutinizer05~factinfo 41!
06:30.20infobot41! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:28:06 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by kerio, 30s ago.
06:30.29DocScrutinizer05~factinfo 40!
06:30.29infobot40! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:27:57 2001 (4586 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 1m 21s ago.
06:30.41DocScrutinizer05LOL
06:30.52DocScrutinizer05~40! + 1
06:31.11DocScrutinizer05thought as much
06:31.26DocScrutinizer05~2**32
06:31.27infobot4294967296
06:31.40DocScrutinizer05~2**32 + 1
06:31.40infobot4294967297
06:34.46jormungandr~aegis-no-thanks
06:34.46infobotfrom memory, aegis-no-thanks is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281
06:34.51Ashley`~42
06:34.51infobotfrom memory, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything
06:35.44Ashley`~listvalues answer
06:35.48Ashley`~listvalues life
06:36.10Ashley`~blame x for y
06:36.10infobotACTION blames anYc_ and perhaps x for y and all the evil in the world
06:36.25Ashley`lol
06:36.31Ashley`~blame a for b
06:36.31infobotACTION blames lbt and perhaps a for b and all the evil in the world
06:36.35Ashley`oh
06:36.49Ashley`pinging random nicks, yay
06:39.39Maxdamantus~listvalues (a?){32}a{32}
06:39.59Maxdamantus~listvalues a?{32}a{32}
06:46.16Ashley`when I'm writing regexps I feel like a magician
06:46.33Ashley`especially when they work as expected :P
06:51.07keriothey're a shitty way to exert your will to a computer
06:51.35Ashley`but they look cool
06:53.39DocScrutinizer05I'd prefer Maxdamantus stopped trying to make bot go south
06:55.00DocScrutinizer05and again: it doesn't do pattern matching aka regex
06:55.22Ashley`im not talking about bot :|
06:55.33DocScrutinizer05but I do
06:56.05DocScrutinizer05don't you think 'a?{32}a{32}' looks like a regex?
06:58.08DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answ?er
06:58.15DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answ\?er
06:58.46DocScrutinizer05~listvalues answer{1}
06:59.06DocScrutinizer05believe me, it doesn't do regex
06:59.32kerioi believe
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07:42.00Maxdamantus~\sum_{i=0}^\infty 1/i!
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08:46.25DocScrutinizer05~+help math
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08:48.13DocScrutinizer05I'd rather be interested in hex numbers
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08:58.22jaska~0xa
08:58.31jaska:(
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09:53.32Psi_anyone still buying n900 ?
09:54.01Psi_probably getting new phone soon so n900 wont be needed any more
09:54.10Psi_im in NZ
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15:18.53sombragrishi there
15:18.55sombragris:)
15:19.02sombragrisgot a problem with my N900
15:21.34zGrrOnly one problem?
15:21.58sixwheeledbeast~ask
15:21.58infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
15:22.39sixwheeledbeastwnat's the problem
15:22.47sixwheeledbeastwhat's even
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15:38.21sombragrissixwheeledbeast: sorry, customer just called.
15:38.25sombragristhis is the issue
15:38.28sixwheeledbeastnp
15:38.40sombragrisI installed a new wifi router at the office
15:38.50sombragrisI configured it as WPA2
15:39.06sombragrisnow, the n900 sees it as if it was WEP
15:39.14sombragrisand it cannot authenticate into the network
15:39.36sombragristhat wasn't a problem with the former router
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15:43.57sombragris_hi.. did you read all of my problem?
15:45.32freemangordonsombragris: try to manually set-up the connection
15:46.05sombragrisfreemangordon: how is that?
15:46.20sombragrisdo you mean manually configuring the router or manually configuring the N900?
15:47.09freemangordonn900
15:47.18freemangordonin settings->internet connections
15:47.38sombragrisok
15:47.46freemangordonconnections->new
15:50.39sombragrisno good
15:50.50sombragrisit still sees my WiFi as WEP
15:51.06DocScrutinizer05then tell it that it's WPA2
15:51.10sombragriscannot
15:51.15sombragrishow can I do that?
15:51.17DocScrutinizer05o.O
15:51.17freemangordonyes, you can
15:51.37freemangordonin internet connections, click on "connections"
15:51.47freemangordonselect yours and press "edit"
15:51.49DocScrutinizer05then DELETE the connection
15:51.59freemangordonno need
15:52.01DocScrutinizer05then create NEW
15:52.13freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it can be edited
15:52.15DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: better safe than sorry
15:52.35freemangordonedit goes through the same wizard as "new"
15:52.46DocScrutinizer05odds are it scans for new AP and finds the one it hears is already configured
15:53.27DocScrutinizer05and you never know oif all the wpa-supplicant resp ICD2 stuff is correct
15:54.16DocScrutinizer05I already witnessed on my own device that I had to delete and create new the connection, to recover from a AP config change
15:54.34freemangordonanyway, we both agree that s/he has to set it up by hand :)
15:54.56DocScrutinizer05depends, maybe after deleting old connection it "just works"
15:55.07freemangordonyeah
15:55.16sombragrisno good
15:55.32sombragrisI can create a new connection from the wizard
15:55.44sombragrisI can even give it my WPA passphrase
15:56.02freemangordonand?
15:56.04sombragrisbut then when I select the connection it still asks me for a WEP key
15:56.14freemangordondid you delete the old one?
15:56.19sombragrisI did
15:56.29freemangordonweird
15:57.11DocScrutinizer05sorry, afk
15:57.38freemangordonsombragris: seems something is not setup correctly on you router
15:58.14DocScrutinizer05nope, pebcak
15:58.20freemangordon:)
15:58.24sombragrisfreemangordon: maybe
15:58.40sombragrisbut what are the settings I should check on it?
15:59.32DocScrutinizer05gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP
16:00.45DocScrutinizer05disable any "simple authentication" or "one-button connect", as well as all "mixed mode"
16:00.48DocScrutinizer05on AP
16:01.07DocScrutinizer05freemangordon will be able to help
16:01.27DocScrutinizer05sorry I'm busy now
16:01.32DocScrutinizer05o/
16:01.33freemangordonsombragris: what is your router?
16:03.40sombragrisIt is a TP-LINK
16:03.56freemangordonok, what model
16:04.03freemangordonI have tplink too
16:04.09freemangordonso I guess I might be able to help
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16:04.17sombragrisTD-W8961ND
16:04.23Humpelstilzchentplink is the openwrt brand ;)
16:04.33freemangordonis it?
16:04.43freemangordonnever knew that
16:05.03sombragrisme neither
16:05.05sombragris:)
16:05.26DocScrutinizer05iwlist wlan0 scan
16:06.12sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: iwlist is not found on my n900
16:06.23Humpelstilzchentry as root
16:06.24sombragris(I entered the command as root)
16:06.29sombragrisI AM root
16:06.34sombragris(sudo gainroot)
16:06.35freemangordonsombragris: what is your wlan authentcation type, in router settings?
16:06.48Humpelstilzchensombragris: do you have wireless-tools installed?
16:06.56DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/101ad706f7
16:07.08sombragrisfreemangordon: wpa-psk/wpa2-psk
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16:08.29sombragrisHumpelstilzchen: no, I don't have it installed
16:08.35sombragrisand I cannot install anything now since I don't have network access
16:08.58sombragris(on the n900)
16:09.12freemangordonsombragris: could you open internet settings, on your n900, edit the connection
16:10.14DocScrutinizer05apt-get install iw
16:10.15freemangordonthere is advanced button, click on it
16:10.35sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I don't have network access on the n900
16:10.36freemangordonselect "other"
16:10.58freemangordonand click on "wpa2-only mode:" checkbox
16:11.08freemangordonthen save
16:13.05DocScrutinizer05shouldn't sombragris first *delete* the old connection?
16:13.09sombragrisfreemangordon: still it shows me my network as WEP
16:13.19sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I deleted the old connection
16:13.38freemangordonthen it is wep, for xome reason
16:13.40freemangordon*some
16:13.55freemangordondid you reboot the router after changint auth type to wpa-psk?
16:13.57DocScrutinizer05fine, then create a new connection, search for devices, check what it shows for your AP (WEP or WPA2)
16:14.04freemangordonchanging even
16:14.10sombragrisI did
16:15.27sombragrisnow I'm rebooting the n900 (again...)
16:15.34DocScrutinizer05create new connection *without* searching for available WLAN connections
16:17.12DocScrutinizer05type in your exact SSID (name of router network you gave it), untag "network is hidden", network mode "infrastructure", security method: "WPA2-preshared"
16:17.42sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I did exactly that
16:17.46sombragrisno result
16:18.27DocScrutinizer05fix your router
16:18.34freemangordon:nod:
16:18.35sombragrisDocScrutinizer05: I guess that's the case
16:18.43trxsombragris do a hard reset
16:18.55trx(on the router)
16:19.05sombragristrx what do you mean as a hard reset?
16:19.19freemangordonthere should be a reset button on the router
16:19.20trxi had things like that happen on my TP-LINK routers/AP's
16:19.31trxthere is a button that will restore factory settings
16:19.33sombragristrx: do you mean booting with factory default settings
16:19.36sombragris>
16:19.43DocScrutinizer05yes
16:19.50DocScrutinizer05and redo the config
16:19.52trxon the back, you need to hold it for 30-60 seconds
16:19.54freemangordonyou should press-n-hold it for a couple of seconds, read the user manual where it is located and for how long to hold it pressed
16:20.02sombragrisoh my.
16:20.05sombragriswell
16:20.22sombragristhat's not going to be simple. I have to dig where is the ISP authentication info.
16:20.41DocScrutinizer05get advice here for an URL "how to config (.*)wrt"
16:20.44trxwhat type of internet do you have?
16:20.54freemangordonadsl :)
16:21.02trxcheck PVC4 in that case
16:21.06freemangordonthis is an adsl router
16:21.20trxit is probably there
16:22.09trxif not, go through 1-8 and find it :)
16:22.11DocScrutinizer05sombragris: do a config backup before doing hard/factory reset
16:22.18trxthat too
16:22.55sombragrisIDK how to do that backup
16:23.13freemangordonhttp://www.tp-link.com/resources/document/TD-W8961ND_V3_User_Guide_1910010893.pdf
16:25.04freemangordonshit, how to tell FF to open a pdf with an external program?!?
16:25.38javispedroI recommend a hammar
16:25.54javispedroalternatively, preferences -> applications sometimes works
16:25.57freemangordonis going to find one
16:26.16javispedrobut only when Firefox happens to like your current desktop
16:26.50freemangordonnah, I had to click on "download"
16:26.58freemangordonthean it asked me what to do
16:27.05freemangordonhow smart
16:27.21xeshey! W8961! I have the same AP, it works great with the N900!
16:27.47freemangordonsombragris: seems today is your lucky day :)
16:28.28freemangordonxes: hi! I promised you to check something, but forgot what exactly, was it hostmode oopses?
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16:29.13xesfreemangordon: yep. But i promised you a few test cases that i had no time to produce
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16:29.41freemangordonoh, well :)
16:31.20xesfreemangordon: i saw you and pali are patching modest again... Do you think there is still something that could be done to allow single mail opening while updating inbox? (now it opens a blank window waiting almost forever)
16:32.12freemangordonxes: hmm, wasn't that fixed already?
16:33.34xesfreemangordon: no? One hour ago it wasn't. (at least in my device and for me)
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16:34.08freemangordonwhat type of mail is that? pop3?
16:34.15xesimap
16:35.24freemangordonbut isn't imap contents stored online?
16:36.23xessure.  But also an old email opened while updating inbox takes ages to open
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16:37.25freemangordonxes: try to enable offline mode, but keep in mind it fills up /home folder
16:38.13xesfreemangordon: enabling offline mode it stops retrieving emails
16:39.13freemangordonhmm?
16:39.26sixwheeledbeastSorry I was away, from reading backscroll the router is not setup correctly
16:39.58freemangordonxes: how's that?
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16:41.02xesfreemangordon: let me check again
16:41.15freemangordonxes: menu->edit accounts->"$YOUR_IMAP_ACCOUNT"->"enable offline IMAP..."
16:41.49eduardo_ok. gotta go now. Will see  how it goes. Stil no luck
16:42.46xesfreemangordon: i tried it a few time ago, i can't remember if "offline mode" or "update all folders" freezed mail retrieving
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16:52.01xesfreemangordon: it was "update all folders" the one that freezed mail updates and notification. With offline mode it still works but mail opening speed while updating it still a pain
16:52.14xes*is
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17:37.33sixwheeledbeast~phonecontrol
17:37.33infoboti guess phonecontrol is http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control
17:38.01sixwheeledbeastI guess there's a way to query the current profile
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17:47.42xessixwheeledbeast: dbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.profiled /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.get_profile
17:48.02sixwheeledbeastxes: yes I found it thanks :)
17:52.00sixwheeledbeastJust working on a,  ' if [ profile == "silent"] then; set_general  ' script
17:53.58NokiabotSsssh
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18:10.09merlin1991xes: iirc Pali added a fix for the update all folders to use the glib main queue instdead of an all blocking loop
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18:28.46vdv<PROTECTED>
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18:29.03vdvcan anybody help to find out what's wrong with my setup?
18:29.49freemangordonxes: yeah, merlin1991 is right, could you try modest from cssu-devel?
18:30.24freemangordonvdv: CONFIG += dbus?
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18:31.07vdvfreemangordon, i have it already
18:31.21vdvthought something is wrong with setup in general
18:31.36xesfreemangordon: i'm using modest  3.90.7-13.1 ... it should be the latest from cssu-devel
18:32.03freemangordonvdv: yeah, seems like :(
18:32.41freemangordonxes: yep
18:33.06vdvwait, do i need CONFIG += qdbus or CONFIG += dbus ?
18:33.10freemangordonxes: dunno then, naybe ask pali for fix, he is working on modest lately
18:33.18vdvalso, is following include correct? #include <QtDBus>
18:33.22freemangordonvdv: iirc it is += dbus
18:33.47freemangordonthat include sounds correct to me
18:34.44freemangordonhmm, could it be QDBus?
18:34.51freemangordoninclude that is
18:35.18freemangordonvdv: yep, it is  #include <QDBus>
18:35.56freemangordonvdv: what class you use?
18:36.04freemangordon*do you
18:36.20vdvQDBusConnection
18:36.58freemangordonwell, then you should #include <QDBusConnection> ;)
18:36.58vdvprojects/goldendict-build-maemo-Qt_4_7_0__fremantle-pr13__Release/../goldendict-maemo/main.cc:10: Error:QDBus: No such file or directory
18:37.25freemangordonweird, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.7/qdbus.html
18:37.49freemangordonbut anyway, you should #include <QDBusConnection>
18:38.07sixwheeledbeastvdv: http://developer.nokia.com/community/wiki/Qt_application_for_Maemo_with_DBus_support
18:38.28sixwheeledbeast+= qdbus
18:38.32freemangordonooh
18:38.36vdvthe project which i try to build now was compiled on my old system normally
18:38.43vdvi didn't change sources
18:38.53freemangordonmy fault, sorry
18:39.19vdvbut i moved folder with qtsdk to new system
18:39.44freemangordonhmm, you should check paths then
18:39.52freemangordonsimply grep for you old path
18:39.53vdvpaths are unchanged
18:39.57freemangordonI see
18:40.09vdv/opt/QtSDK
18:40.24freemangordonNFC then
18:40.44freemangordonyou can try to reinstall :)
18:41.21vdvdidn't help either (
18:41.34freemangordon32 or 64 bit?
18:41.37vdv32
18:41.51freemangordonand your OS is 32 bit?
18:41.55vdvalso, yes
18:42.29vdvin the article which sixwheeledbeast suggested it's CONFIG += qdbus
18:42.34vdvinteresting
18:42.57freemangordonyep
18:43.04freemangordonthus "my fault" ^^^
18:43.46vdvmaybe wrong compiler is used, i don't know
18:44.25freemangordoncould you try "mad g++ -v"
18:44.52freemangordonthough it doesn't make mush of a sense
18:44.57freemangordon*much
18:45.46freemangordonvdv: what is on /opt/QtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/sysroots/fremantle-arm-sysroot-20.2010.36-2-slim/usr/include/QtDBus/qdbusabstractadaptor.h:57 ?
18:46.23vdvclass QDBUS_EXPORT QDBusAbstractAdaptor: public QObject
18:47.37freemangordonno idea, sorry
18:47.58freemangordonactually...
18:48.05freemangordondid you run qmake again?
18:48.20vdvyes
18:48.31vdvand qmake from toolchain for maemo is used
18:48.35freemangordonis out of ideas
18:48.59vdvdoes it matter which make runs makefile?
18:49.03freemangordonyou may try to purge the whole qtsdk directory and make a clean install
18:49.25vdvmake from /usr/bin is used
18:49.26freemangordoni think it is only one make
18:49.29freemangordonhmm
18:49.36freemangordonwhy is that?
18:49.55freemangordonis checking his qtcreator
18:50.03vdvi don't know how to influence that
18:50.15vdvand whether qtsdk has it's own make
18:52.27freemangordon21:52:04: Starting: "/usr/bin/make" -w
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18:52.33freemangordonso it is the same here
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18:54.19vdvok, thanks
18:55.02vdvmad g++ -v -> 4.2.1
18:55.16vdvsystem g++ -v -> 4.7.1
18:55.23freemangordonnormal
18:55.26freemangordonIMO
18:55.47freemangordonqhat qtsdk version?
18:55.50freemangordon*what
18:56.02vdv1.2.1
18:56.18freemangordonsame here
18:56.34freemangordonbut I am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
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19:58.52wizbitis there a way to speed up the application installer?
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20:18.27sixwheeledbeastwizbit: you mean HAM aka application manager?
20:18.30sixwheeledbeast~HAM
20:18.30infoboti heard ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham
20:18.43sixwheeledbeast~speedyHAM
20:18.43infobotit has been said that speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb
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23:10.11hxkainfobot: speedyham is also in cssu-thumb
23:10.11infobotokay, hxka
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