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| 14:30.41 | FIQ | this might be the wrong place |
| 14:30.50 | FIQ | but whoever designed the "wrong password" screen? |
| 14:31.14 | FIQ | http://home.fiq.se/tmofail.png |
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| 14:46.20 | kerio | here |
| 14:50.14 | hxka | http://i.imgur.com/9DUc08Q.png |
| 14:50.51 | hxka | Probably the problem of the theme you selected |
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| 14:56.20 | hxka | http://i.imgur.com/019BoiU.png Yes indeed, dark text on dark background is very readable |
| 15:01.30 | sixwheeledbeast | lol, hidden in plain sight |
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| 15:41.06 | wizbit | anybody know of a decent twitter app to run on maemo? |
| 15:41.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha, had a discussion about the problem at #kde recently |
| 15:41.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ |
| 15:41.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was it #qi-hw? |
| 15:42.07 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 15:42.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | web "designers" taking assumptions about foreground/background color that are not valid |
| 15:43.07 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: I believe there is currently only one working twitter application. None of the others have been updated to new API |
| 15:44.18 | wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: do you know the name of it by any chance? |
| 15:44.57 | wizbit | im also looking for a google+ client |
| 15:45.08 | wizbit | im about to enter the world of 'social networking' :/ |
| 15:45.28 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: hmmm, I don't use it but that's what I recall from hanging about and reading TMO regularly. Let me have a quick look |
| 15:45.39 | sixwheeledbeast | feck social networking. I go the pub |
| 15:46.46 | wizbit | i dont like real humans |
| 15:47.08 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: I'd expect the themes to change the text to grey myself |
| 15:47.29 | sixwheeledbeast | talk to infobot then |
| 15:47.34 | sixwheeledbeast | ~botsnack |
| 15:47.34 | infobot | :), sixwheeledbeast |
| 15:49.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~coffee wizbit |
| 15:49.58 | infobot | ACTION steals some of Xjs|moonshine's special coffee and gives it to wizbit on a silver platter. |
| 15:51.14 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: TwimGo seems to be one of the ones I recall working |
| 15:51.14 | wizbit | google+ runs perfect on opera :D |
| 15:51.16 | wizbit | just tested |
| 15:51.21 | wizbit | sixwheeledbeast: ace :D |
| 15:52.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, but alas there seem to be several rather insane combinations of presets, forced presets in browser, forground/background color definitions and all sorts of background not created by browser (image background etc). Then we also get transparency to make things worse |
| 15:53.32 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit after then maybe try Rocket and Tweetian but I think recall some issue with them. |
| 15:53.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | a "color" defines as offset to the particular background pixel's color would be a real nice-to-have |
| 15:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas it seems that exists only for highlighting text |
| 15:54.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | and then only for both fg *and* bg |
| 15:56.05 | sixwheeledbeast | I suspect the issue is the combination of "Maemo" style on top of BB presets. |
| 15:56.44 | sixwheeledbeast | they where never potentially never tested together |
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| 15:58.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 15:58.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | uses non-maemo-theme since years, can't stand the maemo layout |
| 16:00.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/17/plasma-desktopz31889.png |
| 16:00.33 | sixwheeledbeast | actually likes the Maemo theme |
| 16:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | too much waste of space for those newsfeeds at right side |
| 16:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | "-classic light -" is more like what I appreciate |
| 16:10.54 | sixwheeledbeast | waste of space ... I have a wide screen ;) |
| 16:13.13 | kerio | oh man |
| 16:13.16 | kerio | free linux fonts are awful |
| 16:17.15 | kerio | also, your screen is so tiny :3 |
| 16:17.37 | kerio | http://acehack.de/~kerio/screen.png for comparison |
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| 16:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, my screen is large enough, and the resolution is just fine for the distance/size ratio |
| 16:28.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather get a second monitor than a larger one |
| 16:29.42 | kerio | but... m-muh dpis |
| 16:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, great. Recent report in c't mag about 4k screens: "get your hand lens! No OS is really capable to consistently display reasonably sized fonts and icons on those" |
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| 16:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I got 180% vision, according to optician |
| 16:35.57 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: os x does |
| 16:36.10 | kerio | because programs that don't are just scaled |
| 16:36.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh great |
| 16:36.30 | kerio | so far, the only one that i found that doesn't is mumble |
| 16:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I really don't need all that, actually I don't _want_ it |
| 16:38.15 | kerio | it's so fucking pretty tho :3 |
| 16:38.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hate pretty |
| 16:38.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I want friggin functional and geeky |
| 16:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still use classical menu |
| 16:39.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I don't even understand what's "activities" in that plasma annoyance and where desktop vanished to |
| 16:40.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have no freaking animations when closing windows |
| 16:41.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no 3D-taskbar that looks like designed by Jobs on LSD |
| 16:42.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh, it *is* "designed by Jobs" |
| 16:42.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | my windows deco looks more like windows95 than like MacOS |
| 16:43.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I hardly can think of any app I'd use in a window that's not mximized |
| 16:43.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | maximized |
| 16:45.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't want that mesh up of appstarter and taskbar so you never clearly see if an app is already started or not |
| 16:46.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | and generally I tend to operate my PC rather with kbd than with mouse |
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| 16:47.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | alt-tab is the most used key-combo |
| 16:48.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it wasn't for text highlighting in browser windows (for c&p) I'd probably get rid of mouse |
| 16:52.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not exactly like rasterman Carsten Haizler who basically just has 20 small xterm windows with tiny fontsize white-on-black on a all black and empty desktop. But almost |
| 16:53.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I can't recall when I last seen my desktop - or just a part of it |
| 16:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, on "screen 2" there it is |
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| 16:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | green and all empty ;-D |
| 16:55.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | id that's still the desktop in KDE4 with that plasma rubbish |
| 16:55.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | if* |
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| 18:19.04 | sixwheeledbeast | scroll wheel surely everyone uses the scroll wheel lots. I know I do |
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| 18:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I do too, particularly since I got MX Revolution |
| 18:34.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | in automatic free spinning mode, with a threshold of ~8clicks/s to switch to free spinning |
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| 18:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's the greatest thing since sliced bread |
| 18:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the reason why I got me two new MX5000 a year ago (does anybody need a bt kbd, or two? really nifty stuff with LCD display, counter, thermometer, macro keys...) |
| 18:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | beeper! |
| 18:38.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | and batteries last for at least 2 years idle |
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| 18:40.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops, MX5500 |
| 18:43.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a number of reasons I prefer a different kbd, which doesn't mean MX5500 kbd are bad |
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| 20:21.07 | sixwheeledbeast | well you can't bin the mouse and keep your scroll wheel ;) |
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| 22:46.37 | hxka | There are keyboards with a builtin trackball. I think it's possible to remap it as a scrollwheel. |
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