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| 04:06.41 | bleb | Just got my N900! I'm trying to figure out the local IP address (so I can ssh in), and netstat -t is giving me an error - "no kernel support for AF INET6 (tcp)" - is there an easy fix for this? I have never installed/upgraded a kernel let alone on a mobile device. Is there another way of getting the local IP address? |
| 04:07.21 | bef0rd | I think there is a built-in way to see the local ip |
| 04:07.28 | bef0rd | can't remember exactly |
| 04:07.39 | bef0rd | check in the settings stuff for networking |
| 04:09.24 | bef0rd | also I think the mad developer app shows the ip and a password to ssh as developer account https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZNTDYvCvtE |
| 04:10.21 | bef0rd | bleb: ifconfig doesn't work? |
| 04:10.53 | bef0rd | you might need to run it as /sbin/ifconfig |
| 04:11.52 | bleb | ah /sbin/ifconfig has it |
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| 04:20.22 | bleb | I'm in! |
| 04:20.28 | bleb | thanks person |
| 04:20.45 | bef0rd | no problemo |
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| 10:04.15 | wizbit | why do the blue keys on a n900 show different characters in the SMS app? |
| 10:04.42 | wizbit | they show the next character along |
| 10:05.16 | wizbit | ie. ? works if i press the the blue key and the up arrow |
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| 12:22.11 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 14:06.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: ping |
| 14:06.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: mxr been yours? |
| 14:07.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's down :ยด( |
| 14:10.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: huh? |
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| 14:14.52 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: hi dude |
| 14:15.19 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: they keymap on the SMS app uses incorrect blue characters, ie, stuff like: !? etc |
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| 14:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of this |
| 14:16.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I for the life of mine couldn't think how this could happen. i mean, the input device stays the same since sms is an X11 app as well |
| 14:16.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
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| 14:42.48 | timeless | DocScrutinizer05: i think that's dns |
| 14:43.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 14:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | that would mean it's easy to 'fix'? |
| 14:43.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you have an IP? |
| 14:43.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, Nokia for sure messed up or let bitrot the mxr.maemo.org DNS |
| 14:43.48 | timeless | dig timeless.justdave.net |
| 14:44.09 | timeless | if you add its ip address as mxr.maemo.org, it will serve the correct content |
| 14:44.46 | timeless | i don't have the energy to chase down whomever owns the nokia side |
| 14:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ |
| 14:45.03 | timeless | yeah, that will work too, but it isn't technically the same frontend |
| 14:45.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, vhost |
| 14:45.38 | timeless | the mxr scripts decide for themselves which content to serve |
| 14:45.44 | timeless | which isn't quite a traditional vhost |
| 14:45.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 14:46.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, how should we proceed? |
| 14:46.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd like to get a backup or mirror or hot-standby or whatever on maemo's infra |
| 14:46.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course we need to solve the DNS issue |
| 14:46.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | *somehow* |
| 14:47.52 | timeless | figure out who manages the dns |
| 14:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: I gather that's your box where mxr is running (well, obviously it is). |
| 14:48.03 | timeless | if they delegate to dreamhost, we can stop playing this game |
| 14:48.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia dnsmaster :-/ |
| 14:48.34 | timeless | technically it's justdave's box.. but roughly i have sufficient access and am allowed to do stuff w/ it |
| 14:48.45 | timeless | yeah, as i said, i'm not chasing nokia |
| 14:48.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | we can't manage any of the *.maemo.org domains |
| 14:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | could we do a full rsync to maemo.org infra? |
| 14:49.33 | timeless | it could be arranged, yeah |
| 14:49.35 | timeless | shrugs |
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| 14:49.46 | timeless | i'd have to pull out ssh keys from somewhere :) |
| 14:49.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | our sysops will negotiate that with you |
| 14:50.03 | timeless | alright |
| 14:50.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ^^^^ |
| 14:50.12 | timeless | what they could do instead is just run a proxy |
| 14:50.24 | timeless | it'd be a pretty simple nginx proxy :) |
| 14:50.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | great idea too, for the service. Not though for the backup (mxr scripts) |
| 14:51.00 | timeless | have it just request the same thing from <dig @timeless.justdave.net> w/ host: mxr.maemo.org :) |
| 14:51.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 14:51.14 | timeless | those are technically in vcs and could be cloned |
| 14:51.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders why xes not around |
| 14:51.36 | timeless | iirc hg clone http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ should work |
| 14:51.56 | timeless | hrm, nope :) |
| 14:52.00 | timeless | wonders where it's hiding |
| 14:52.37 | timeless | well, it's theoretically there, i just don't quite remember how to convince it to come out :) |
| 14:53.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes is "online" but can't join this chan |
| 14:53.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | he's reading though |
| 14:53.32 | timeless | try hg clone http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/source/ |
| 14:53.39 | timeless | yeah, that'll work :) |
| 14:53.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: (for the background: warfare and xes are our sysops) |
| 14:54.00 | timeless | nods |
| 14:54.26 | timeless | anyway, that clone should succeed (eventually) |
| 14:54.40 | timeless | there should be a readme and some files which sort of explain how things work |
| 14:56.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | great! I hope xes will /query you and negotiate all remaining details |
| 14:56.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | please the two of you stay in touch, it would be a pity to lose mxr |
| 14:59.40 | timeless | ponders |
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| 15:00.34 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: irrelevant, qt apps are also x11 apps but the keyboard layout is fucked regardless |
| 15:00.42 | kerio | re:kbd layouts |
| 15:01.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I know |
| 15:01.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | but iirc sms/messaging isn't a qt app |
| 15:01.50 | kerio | yeah, it's... gtk+gecko? |
| 15:01.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: prolly |
| 15:04.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes, timeless: thanks guys! |
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| 15:37.50 | vi__ | hello |
| 15:44.32 | freemangordon | vi__: hi!!! |
| 15:44.40 | freemangordon | long time no see |
| 15:45.04 | vi__ | yeah, busy life kills my fun time now. |
| 15:45.12 | freemangordon | :( |
| 15:45.39 | vi__ | what is better a job or haxxing all day? |
| 15:46.15 | vi__ | you might know... |
| 15:46.17 | freemangordon | a balance in between :) |
| 15:46.35 | vi__ | a job that involves haxxing all day? |
| 15:46.49 | freemangordon | though, lately I fail to acheve it |
| 15:46.52 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 15:47.03 | freemangordon | esp if it is ell-paid ;) |
| 15:47.05 | freemangordon | *well |
| 15:47.35 | vi__ | Do you know if there was any program for n900 for gathering data for opencellid database? |
| 15:48.16 | freemangordon | no idea, sorry |
| 15:48.48 | vi__ | I am setting up 2 of my n900. One is a home server, running stuff from debian chroot. |
| 15:49.03 | vi__ | the other is a carputer. |
| 15:51.05 | vi__ | I have managed to get tunneling over dns to work to the n900. |
| 15:51.15 | bencoh | iodine works well on n900 :) |
| 15:51.24 | vi__ | which is nice. |
| 15:51.29 | bencoh | definitely |
| 15:51.46 | vi__ | i am using the n900 as the iodined |
| 15:52.03 | vi__ | from squeezy chroot. |
| 16:01.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: how comes mxr-maemo-org-dns-0.1/DEBIAN/postinst has the right IP since 2008 and the DNS managed by Nokia points to a bogus IP? |
| 16:02.20 | timeless | heh |
| 16:02.40 | timeless | 2008 seems a bit early |
| 16:02.56 | timeless | but ... |
| 16:03.27 | timeless | no, it isn't the right ip |
| 16:03.33 | timeless | the right ip is 66.33.208.86 |
| 16:03.41 | timeless | that has 66.33.212.254 |
| 16:04.55 | timeless | roughly the first two bits being constant are because it has always lived in dreamhost |
| 16:06.55 | timeless | on the bright side, it's easy to fix that file to the current ip address :) |
| 16:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
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| 16:07.38 | timeless | you could even have the thing automatically pick the value from timeless.justdave.net :) |
| 16:11.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, I know |
| 16:12.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | we rather fix that on a "global" level ;-) |
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