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| 05:36.34 | Mike11 | file manager on my nokia n900 says no files/folders , I see that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is not mounted in x-terminal, if I try to mount it it says "mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1on /home/user/MyDocs failed: Invalid argument" |
| 05:38.05 | Mike11 | tried "fsck -a /dev/mmcblk0p1" , ended up with "Logical sector size is zero." |
| 05:39.15 | Mike11 | any ideas , please help me :) |
| 05:40.13 | Mike11 | I don't need the information that were on MyDocs |
| 05:40.25 | Mike11 | I just want to be able to use my memory again :( |
| 05:40.37 | Mike11 | without flashing the whole formware |
| 05:40.52 | Mike11 | firmware* |
| 05:40.58 | Mike11 | please help me and thanks :) |
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| 05:49.28 | andre__ | Mike11, how do you "try to mount" |
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| 05:52.25 | Maxdamantus | Mike11: can you mount it when it's plugged in to a computer? |
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| 06:14.08 | wizbit | if i ssh into my n900, after a little bit, my dmesg fills up with: wlan0: driver reports beacon loss from AP cf1bf52c - sending probe request |
| 06:14.18 | wizbit | im running: Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Sat Apr 6 11:59:23 UTC 2013 armv7l unknown |
| 06:14.32 | wizbit | i do have fbcon switched on |
| 06:16.42 | Mike11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.52 | Mike11 | Maxdamantus, no I can't |
| 06:17.24 | Mike11 | I managed to get my mmcblk0p1 accessible again by reformatting it |
| 06:17.45 | Mike11 | mkfs.vfat -F32 -s64 /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
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| 06:18.57 | Mike11 | thank you guys :) |
| 06:19.09 | Mike11 | but now I have another problem please help me |
| 06:19.22 | Mike11 | the size of MyDocs is now 27 GB only |
| 06:19.34 | Mike11 | it used to be 30 GB on my phone |
| 06:19.50 | Maxdamantus | Are you sure it's not 27 GiB? |
| 06:19.59 | Maxdamantus | (which is probably about 30 GB) |
| 06:20.42 | Mike11 | there are some lost blocks when I print the partition table using sfdisk -d /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 06:21.18 | Mike11 | just a moment , Maxdamantus :) |
| 06:24.04 | Mike11 | Maxdamantus, no it is 27 GB |
| 06:24.35 | Mike11 | and there are no "lost blocks" , I was messing things up as always :( |
| 06:25.07 | Mike11 | but how come, I have only 2 GB as "Memory for installable applications" |
| 06:26.21 | Maxdamantus | Isn't that about the usual size? |
| 06:27.43 | Maxdamantus | 27 + 2 = 29 .. sounds like what I'd expect. |
| 06:28.01 | Mike11 | isn't the NAND flash of about 32 GB??? |
| 06:28.05 | Maxdamantus | since there's also swap on the mmc. |
| 06:28.11 | Maxdamantus | Ah, yes, probably. |
| 06:28.16 | Maxdamantus | Was thinking in GiB. |
| 06:28.37 | Mike11 | is mmcblk0p3 the swap partition?? |
| 06:30.05 | ShadowJK | yes |
| 06:33.01 | Mike11 | anyways here is the partition table of my mmcblk0p1 |
| 06:33.09 | Mike11 | mmcnlk0*** |
| 06:33.14 | Mike11 | mmcblk0**** |
| 06:33.16 | Mike11 | # partition table of /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 06:33.16 | Mike11 | unit: sectors |
| 06:33.17 | Mike11 | /dev/mmcblk0p1 : start= 64, size= 56631296, Id= c |
| 06:33.17 | Mike11 | /dev/mmcblk0p2 : start= 56631360, size= 4194304, Id=83 |
| 06:33.17 | Mike11 | /dev/mmcblk0p3 : start= 60825664, size= 1572864, Id=82 |
| 06:33.17 | Mike11 | /dev/mmcblk0p4 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 |
| 06:35.07 | Mike11 | but I have about 2 GB of memory for installable applications , and 27.22GB of memory for user files, when going to settings -> memory |
| 06:35.15 | Mike11 | how is that?? |
| 06:35.55 | Maxdamantus | applications go in /home/opt or something. |
| 06:36.14 | Maxdamantus | rather than /home/user/MyDocs, which is where the 27 GB filesystem is mounted. |
| 06:36.40 | Maxdamantus | applications usually expect to be stored on a POSIX-compatible filesystem, not something like FAT32. |
| 06:38.17 | Maxdamantus | If you're not expecting to be using it as a mass storage device very often, you might want to scrap the FAT partition and just make a single ext2/3 one. |
| 06:38.59 | Mike11 | is the block here of size 512kb ?? |
| 06:39.17 | Maxdamantus | You could mount it on a computer using something like sshfs, either over WiFi or over g_ether (where the phone acts as a USB ethernet device) |
| 06:40.23 | Maxdamantus | no, it'll be 512 bytes.\ |
| 06:41.22 | wizbit | i didnt realise the n900 has a micro sd slot |
| 06:41.55 | Mike11 | I have another nokia n900 with exactly the same partition table, but has about 4GB of memory for installable applications , when going to settings -> memory :o |
| 06:42.06 | Mike11 | what is wrong ?! |
| 06:42.58 | Maxdamantus | Mike11: df -hT /dev/mmcblk0p2 |
| 06:43.28 | Maxdamantus | Hm. That partition should be about 2 GiB. |
| 06:43.37 | Maxdamantus | so the filesystem shouldn't be larger. |
| 06:43.57 | Maxdamantus | Maybe do that on both devices. |
| 06:46.20 | Mike11 | Maxdamantus sorry you were right :) |
| 06:46.51 | Mike11 | both are 2 GB , but the visual bar on the settings -> memory was tricking me :) |
| 06:46.57 | Mike11 | thanks for your help Maxdamantus :) |
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| 12:25.39 | sixwheeledbeast | intgr: they have all expired http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93003 |
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| 12:36.12 | intgr | lol the first post certainly isn't true. But whatever. |
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| 13:26.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | wishes http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93003 had rather been posted to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89273 |
| 13:27.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | good sailfish blog: http://dontbreakthesails.blogspot.de/2014/04/sailfish-silica-half-open-sourced.html |
| 13:29.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | intgr: we tried to get a proper cert a year ago, and failed. We went for per-VM free certs. Now Falk started a new effort to get a domain wildcard cert, but the preconditions didn't change: we still don't own maemo.org domain so it probably still isn't possible to get a wildcard cert |
| 13:29.48 | Sicelo | quic android question - is there a 'simple' free way to remotely control a android phone? |
| 13:30.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, get a good rifle |
| 13:30.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | remote control over distances up to 2000m |
| 13:30.34 | Sicelo | lolz |
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| 13:32.13 | Maxdamantus | Android isn't even remotely controllable. |
| 13:35.06 | Sicelo | ok. one of my friends has some samsung note, and they need assistance |
| 13:35.45 | Sicelo | btw, my N900 is now also coming up with the no-SIM thing. :'( |
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| 14:43.19 | jaska | hmm, i guess you could get a wildcard cert from those providers that allow you to confirm by mail to admin@domain etc |
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| 15:27.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaska: seems that cursory authentication is only used for non-wildcard certs |
| 15:28.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually they will send a mail to whatever shows up for admin-c or whatever in whois of the domain |
| 15:29.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | tech-c, dunno |
| 15:29.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's all *@nokia.com |
| 15:32.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: Registrant Email:dnsauthority@nokia.com |
| 15:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: Admin Email:dnsauthority@nokia.com |
| 15:32.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: Tech Email:hostmaster@nokia.com |
| 15:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: my friend also has a Note-II now (I recommended it to her), so if you ever find out how to do that remote access please let me know |
| 15:35.30 | jaska | doc: atleast alphassl will do admin@domain or webmaster@domain |
| 15:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | also for wildcard certs? |
| 15:37.48 | jaska | yeah |
| 15:37.51 | jaska | atleast when i got some recently |
| 15:37.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: ^^^ |
| 15:39.28 | jaska | ymmw but workedforme(tm) |
| 15:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaska: thanks! :-) |
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| 17:00.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | priceless spam: >> Dear council, Have you noticed how you have become so fat and hopeless? Of course not!...<< |
| 17:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | doublechecks if it's actually spam |
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| 18:29.05 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: phone is working awesome, thanks for your help |
| 18:29.22 | wizbit | going to do a few more finishing touches then back it up |
| 18:29.42 | wizbit | i didnt realise the n900 can take a micro ssd card |
| 18:30.02 | freemangordon | wizbit: what is micro ssd card? |
| 18:30.22 | freemangordon | or it is a typo? |
| 18:30.54 | wizbit | *micro sd |
| 18:31.42 | wizbit | or maybe thats what is in use at the moment |
| 18:32.36 | wizbit | i thought maybe 32gb is built in and there is another slot for a extra card? |
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| 18:33.15 | freemangordon | wizbit: yes, there is uSD card slot |
| 18:33.35 | freemangordon | and 32GB of built-in flash + 256MB of NAND |
| 18:33.42 | wizbit | wow :D |
| 18:34.01 | wizbit | freemangordon: would it be a good idea to use the extra one for swap? |
| 18:34.14 | freemangordon | that would be very very good idea |
| 18:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 18:34.21 | freemangordon | most of us do it |
| 18:34.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
| 18:34.32 | freemangordon | what? |
| 18:34.50 | freemangordon | nope what? havin swap on uSD is a good idea |
| 18:35.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends |
| 18:35.12 | wizbit | what is the maximum size card for the uSD slot? |
| 18:35.21 | wizbit | 32GB, ive seen 64GB ones advertised |
| 18:35.22 | freemangordon | wizbit: I am using 64GB |
| 18:35.26 | wizbit | nice |
| 18:35.32 | wizbit | most brands will work ok? |
| 18:35.41 | freemangordon | should |
| 18:36.02 | wizbit | will it get auto detected at boot time? |
| 18:36.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | between "should" and "do" there's a huge gap here |
| 18:36.12 | wizbit | should i use vfat or ext3 |
| 18:36.18 | freemangordon | up to you |
| 18:36.28 | wizbit | ext3 is superior to vfat |
| 18:36.44 | freemangordon | but won't be recognized by windoze |
| 18:36.52 | wizbit | i dont use windoze :D |
| 18:37.00 | wizbit | i use sftp or ssh to transfer stuff |
| 18:37.10 | wizbit | wget |
| 18:37.23 | freemangordon | wizbit: anyway, partition your uSD to have 2GB of swap partition |
| 18:37.29 | freemangordon | along the other(s) |
| 18:37.31 | wizbit | ace |
| 18:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that can't hurt |
| 18:37.35 | wizbit | how much ram does a n900 have |
| 18:37.43 | freemangordon | 256MB |
| 18:37.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | though 2GB is insane |
| 18:37.54 | wizbit | 512MB should be ok for swap |
| 18:37.59 | freemangordon | no, it is not, because of the fragmentation |
| 18:38.00 | wizbit | double the ram size |
| 18:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're aware that swap eats ram, are you? |
| 18:38.12 | wizbit | nope?! |
| 18:38.18 | wizbit | i thought it does the reverse |
| 18:38.33 | kerio | oh shit you're losing 2 more kb |
| 18:38.35 | freemangordon | yes, it eats |
| 18:38.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, it actually *needs* ram for some meta data |
| 18:38.50 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: the bigger the swap, the more ram? |
| 18:38.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 18:39.02 | wizbit | surely 512mb is enough |
| 18:39.05 | freemangordon | sure, but fragmentation is waaay worse than 1 MB more used |
| 18:39.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 18:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 1GB |
| 18:39.17 | wizbit | ok ill do 1GB |
| 18:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | more than 1GB is insane for sure |
| 18:39.27 | kerio | i think i either have 2 or 4 |
| 18:39.32 | kerio | because i don't believe you |
| 18:39.35 | freemangordon | no, it is not, as swap gets fragmented over time |
| 18:39.37 | wizbit | is the uSD slot behind the camera? |
| 18:39.39 | kerio | and i can afford the space |
| 18:39.44 | kerio | wizbit: next to |
| 18:39.47 | wizbit | ok |
| 18:39.55 | wizbit | time to order a micro sd card |
| 18:40.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you actually can't even use the 768MB standard swap. System comes to a grinding halt when that much swap is actually needed |
| 18:40.01 | freemangordon | wizbit: listen to me, make it 2 GB |
| 18:40.11 | wizbit | ok :-S |
| 18:40.20 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: *FRAGMENTATION* |
| 18:40.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | pff |
| 18:40.38 | kerio | how much ram does swap use? |
| 18:40.53 | kerio | mh, my server has 32gb of ram and 16 of swap |
| 18:40.55 | kerio | for some reason |
| 18:41.00 | freemangordon | about 4 bytes per 4k |
| 18:41.07 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 18:41.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sth like 1% to 0.1% |
| 18:41.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 18:41.35 | wizbit | http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQU-064G-FFP-Ultra-Class-Adapter/dp/B0084DWD4Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398796852&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+sd+64gb |
| 18:41.43 | freemangordon | or 8 bytes per 4 k, it was a while I looked at swap subsys in the kernel |
| 18:41.46 | wizbit | 2,960 good reviews |
| 18:41.49 | kerio | i assume the bigger the swap the lesser the pro capite metadata used |
| 18:42.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | so for 2GB swap partition you need 200kB to 2MB of RAM to handle it |
| 18:42.27 | freemangordon | sure, but that pays of as access is sequental most of the time |
| 18:42.51 | freemangordon | 1GB quickly becomes fragmented |
| 18:42.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's nonsense, use reswap when your swap get fragmented |
| 18:43.09 | freemangordon | that's another story |
| 18:43.33 | wizbit | do i really need 64gb, might get a 32gb |
| 18:43.44 | freemangordon | it is supposed to be faster |
| 18:43.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | is it? |
| 18:43.56 | kerio | the 64gb one? |
| 18:44.01 | freemangordon | 64gb are UHS1 |
| 18:44.08 | freemangordon | 32 are class10 usually |
| 18:44.13 | kerio | can the n900 make use of that? |
| 18:44.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | that is a poor metrics |
| 18:44.21 | wizbit | SanDisk SDSDQU-032G-U46A MicroSDHC Ultra 32 GB Class 10 UHS-I 30 MB/s with SD Adapter |
| 18:44.22 | freemangordon | kerio: I use 64GB |
| 18:44.29 | freemangordon | wizbit: mine is samsung |
| 18:44.30 | kerio | i mean the uhs1 |
| 18:44.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 18:44.54 | kerio | can the neo900 make use of that? |
| 18:45.01 | freemangordon | and it has random write transfer rate about 2MB/s |
| 18:45.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: no |
| 18:45.22 | freemangordon | kerio: n900 can make it up to 16/18MB/s |
| 18:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | UHS doesn't tell you much about speed of card, particularly not in N900 |
| 18:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | even classN doesn't tell the truth |
| 18:47.04 | freemangordon | sure |
| 18:47.22 | wizbit | logically, i dont want to store too much stuff on my phone, i will change my media accordingly so im gonna go for 32gb |
| 18:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | class4 cards reported to be faster than most class10 |
| 18:47.56 | wizbit | will i need to edit fstab to get the maemo to see it when it boots |
| 18:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 18:49.26 | wizbit | it will mount even if its ext3? |
| 18:49.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo automounts VFAT, CSSU automounts multiple partitions with virtually arbitrary fs |
| 18:50.07 | wizbit | ace |
| 18:50.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe maemo also mounts ext3, dunno. CSSU definitely does |
| 18:50.53 | wizbit | ordered :D |
| 18:51.21 | wizbit | i found out how to stop dmesg flooding wlan messages |
| 18:51.39 | wizbit | if i login via ssh i need to do this: ssh -o ServerAliveInterval=4 |
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| 18:52.24 | freemangordon | wizbit: check what is the random access speed of the card you've just ordered, if it is <2MB/s think again |
| 18:52.58 | hxka__ | No, Maemo doesn't mount ext3, I've seen a bug about that |
| 18:53.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:/usr/sbin# df -h |
| 18:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Dateisystem Size Used Avail Use% Eingehängt auf |
| 18:53.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | [... shortened] |
| 18:53.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | /dev/mmcblk0p2 2,0G 877M 1,1G 46% /home |
| 18:53.11 | freemangordon | hxka: cssu does it |
| 18:53.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | /dev/mmcblk0p1 28G 21G 6,5G 77% /home/user/MyDocs |
| 18:53.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | /dev/mmcblk1p1 14G 11G 3,8G 74% /media/mmc1 |
| 18:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | /dev/mmcblk1p2 845M 782M 20M 98% /media/mmc1p2 |
| 18:53.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:/usr/sbin# |
| 18:53.18 | wizbit | freemangordon: ive already ordered it |
| 18:53.39 | hxka | freemangordon: yeah, and Doc mentioned that |
| 18:53.43 | freemangordon | wizbit: so? can't you cancel the order it it doesn't fit your needs? |
| 18:53.45 | wizbit | SanDisk SDSDQU-032G-U46A MicroSDHC Ultra 32 GB Class 10 UHS-I 30 MB/s with SD Adapter |
| 18:53.55 | freemangordon | wizbit: up to you :) |
| 18:54.06 | wizbit | is the above specs not good |
| 18:54.42 | freemangordon | those specs mean basically nothing but the capacity |
| 18:54.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's prolly ok |
| 18:55.17 | wizbit | 30 MB/s |
| 18:55.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | SanDisk is a good brand |
| 18:55.34 | freemangordon | wizbit: no, this is sequental access |
| 18:55.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | should actually work |
| 18:55.46 | wizbit | let me check |
| 18:56.03 | wizbit | Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.902 MB/s |
| 18:56.35 | freemangordon | wizbit: where did you find that? |
| 18:56.44 | freemangordon | and what about writes? |
| 18:57.47 | wizbit | Writing speed: 7.72 MByte/s |
| 18:57.53 | wizbit | Reading speed: 18.9 MByte/s |
| 18:57.59 | freemangordon | this is sequental |
| 18:58.46 | wizbit | i cant find data on that |
| 18:58.51 | freemangordon | http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1324483&d=1347568510 |
| 18:59.22 | freemangordon | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31521430&postcount=564 |
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| 18:59.40 | freemangordon | not that good |
| 18:59.42 | wizbit | will that be too slow for swap |
| 18:59.51 | freemangordon | could be better |
| 18:59.56 | wizbit | i dont care about if its slow for other stuff |
| 19:00.28 | wizbit | will it be faster than what the n900 uses for swap at the moment |
| 19:00.51 | wizbit | using whats built in |
| 19:02.10 | RiD | freemangordon so i heard you removed 500kg heavy load out of HAM.... thumbs up! |
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| 19:03.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: don't bother with swap on uSD, it's a geek thing and effect is questionable |
| 19:03.39 | wizbit | will running thumb (in a month or so) speed everything up even more? |
| 19:03.50 | wizbit | CSSU-thumb |
| 19:03.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 19:04.12 | wizbit | ace :D |
| 19:04.17 | kerio | do bother with swap on uSD |
| 19:04.20 | kerio | cuz it's totally awesome |
| 19:04.40 | wizbit | i need to peel off the plastic on the front of the n900 as it has bubbles |
| 19:04.46 | wizbit | i bought some new screen protectors |
| 19:04.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | be careful! |
| 19:05.06 | wizbit | i think the glass will scratch otherwise? |
| 19:05.07 | kerio | enter your bathroom |
| 19:05.11 | kerio | run some hot water |
| 19:05.15 | RiD | wizbit plastic |
| 19:05.19 | wizbit | yep |
| 19:05.34 | wizbit | or they designed so you can peel them off and replace them |
| 19:05.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never used protectors, but then I also don't carry the N900 in my pocket together with keys or gardening tools |
| 19:05.55 | wizbit | ok |
| 19:05.58 | RiD | well mine has scratches because of my nails |
| 19:06.00 | RiD | i scroll with my nails |
| 19:06.01 | RiD | runs |
| 19:06.11 | wizbit | this n900 came with a protector already on it |
| 19:06.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | RiD: I actually made a mini-scratch with may nails - or rather with some microscopic dust that sticked there |
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| 19:07.18 | wizbit | maybe those protectors make the touch screen less responsive |
| 19:07.25 | kerio | nah |
| 19:07.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | possible |
| 19:07.46 | RiD | wizbit it does... a little bit |
| 19:07.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | but usually they don't |
| 19:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | not much at least |
| 19:08.17 | RiD | yeah, it's just that i you're used to using it without |
| 19:08.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I recently got me matte ones which actually feel and look cool |
| 19:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't use them yet though |
| 19:08.57 | RiD | i like how with the screen protector the fingers slides better when the screen isn't 100% clean |
| 19:09.02 | RiD | slide* |
| 19:09.06 | bencoh | keeping it with keys isnt a good idea ... mine suffered from it until I bought a protector |
| 19:09.14 | wizbit | im using opera as my browser, awesome |
| 19:09.22 | wizbit | was thinking about trying firefox n900 version |
| 19:09.25 | RiD | i find the stock browser still the best in most cases |
| 19:09.44 | kerio | microb best b |
| 19:10.09 | RiD | adblock addon is kinda cool... but it hogs the poor thing |
| 19:10.17 | kerio | i use a css thing |
| 19:10.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | steer clear of adblock! |
| 19:10.55 | wizbit | firefox feennec |
| 19:10.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | scanning the 10MB of blacklist takes longer than downloading and rendering the worst ads |
| 19:11.09 | bencoh | :] |
| 19:11.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it eats RAM like mad |
| 19:11.51 | RiD | is there some sort of alternative? |
| 19:12.01 | RiD | other than not visit pages full of ads lol |
| 19:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, you could use some etc/hosts entries for the worst crap |
| 19:12.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | or use a proxy that does the filtering for you offline |
| 19:12.30 | RiD | hard to figure out what is the worst crap |
| 19:12.48 | RiD | but maybe i could block the most common ones |
| 19:13.18 | wizbit | the 2 most common tools i will use is: browser, media player |
| 19:13.32 | wizbit | do you all use the built in media player? or are there better alternatives |
| 19:13.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | many prefer OM |
| 19:13.48 | RiD | i only use rockbox |
| 19:13.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMP even |
| 19:13.59 | RiD | well for music lol |
| 19:14.24 | wizbit | right ok |
| 19:14.29 | wizbit | http://wiki.maemo.org/Open_Media_Player |
| 19:14.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | the built-in player has an abysmal GUI in my book, nevertheless I use it for everything |
| 19:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMP pretty much copies the GUI of built-in |
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| 19:15.42 | wizbit | nice ill install that and maybe test out firefox fennec |
| 19:15.48 | wizbit | after that clean it up then backup |
| 19:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch! |
| 19:16.08 | kerio | ? |
| 19:16.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | why not doing a backup *before* you start such experiments? |
| 19:16.28 | kerio | or maybe before AND after |
| 19:16.29 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: i know, i gone past that mistake! |
| 19:16.37 | RiD | #yolo |
| 19:16.42 | wizbit | next time when if i re-flash i will :D |
| 19:16.49 | kerio | sudo apt-get -y upgrade #yolo |
| 19:17.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 19:17.29 | RiD | you only live once |
| 19:17.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess how often I reflashed my current daily device |
| 19:17.52 | wizbit | ? |
| 19:17.54 | RiD | 2x per day |
| 19:18.01 | kerio | 7 times |
| 19:18.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly once, when I got it |
| 19:18.12 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: i should be ok then |
| 19:18.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | that been like 3 years ago |
| 19:18.16 | kerio | ooh look at me i'm DocScrutinizer and i'm boring |
| 19:18.29 | RiD | ^ |
| 19:18.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | no need to reflash since then, I got BM backups |
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| 19:19.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually, lemme rethink. Make that "ZERO", since I cloned my old N900 to the new one, with BM |
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| 19:20.48 | RiD | technically you reflashed |
| 19:21.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | technically yes |
| 19:21.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | except kernel |
| 19:21.19 | wizbit | should i use the Community SSU devel repro or Maemo Extras-Devel repro for OMP? |
| 19:21.29 | kerio | backupmenu doesn't flash anything |
| 19:21.34 | kerio | it deletes and writes files |
| 19:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: you SHOULD NOT use Community SSU devel repro for +anything* |
| 19:21.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2119 |
| 19:21.58 | infobot | The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. |
| 19:22.11 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: ok i havent :D |
| 19:22.24 | wizbit | i will install OMP from Maemo Extras-Devel |
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| 19:24.53 | wizbit | when i activate Maemo Extras-Devel it asks to update: bash4, opera mobile and conky (what i have already installed) should i ignore those |
| 19:26.56 | bencoh | I'd say so |
| 19:27.18 | wizbit | ok |
| 19:27.44 | wizbit | so the Maemo Extras-Devel is pretty stable |
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| 19:29.15 | wizbit | open media player looks the same as the built in one |
| 19:29.36 | bencoh | at least it should |
| 19:29.44 | bencoh | it is meant as a clone/remplacement |
| 19:30.09 | wizbit | oh ok |
| 19:31.09 | wizbit | should i bother testing firefox fennec.. |
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| 19:35.07 | wizbit | actually i wont bother with firefox |
| 19:36.29 | nox- | as someone here once said, fennec is "eating ram like candy" |
| 19:36.41 | wizbit | eeek |
| 19:36.47 | wizbit | opera is nice and slick |
| 19:37.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard genuine FF works better than fennec on maemo |
| 19:37.20 | nox- | oh |
| 19:37.32 | wizbit | one last question before i backup |
| 19:37.43 | wizbit | is there a way to delete the existing radio stations in OMP |
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| 19:38.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | click&hold? |
| 19:38.19 | wizbit | ACE :D |
| 19:38.22 | wizbit | you star :D |
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| 19:43.26 | wizbit | time to fry some burgers :D |
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| 19:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | could you bring some for me too please? |
| 19:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | 10 min to Thing |
| 19:51.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | þing |
| 19:51.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ^^^ |
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| 19:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | #maemo-meeting |
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| 20:17.58 | wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: aye up :D |
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| 20:18.39 | wizbit | will there one day be a maemo 6 |
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| 20:47.41 | wizbit | is it worth installing this: http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_Features_Configuration_Editor |
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| 21:09.05 | sixwheeledbeast | wizbit: Maemo 6 is sort of Harmattan, Fremantle will only see CSSU updates from now on. As for CSSUfeatures if you wish to play with different settings in GUI form yes. While it's a nice application I wouldn't/don't use it. |
| 21:10.18 | sixwheeledbeast | Also Extras-Devel is a minefield of "in development" packages. http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-Devel |
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| 22:29.23 | wizbit | i wonder how quake runs on a n900 |
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| 23:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit; test it and tell us! http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1379&faq=35 |
| 23:05.26 | bencoh | meh :) |
| 23:05.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh? :-D |
| 23:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | you tested it? |
| 23:08.35 | bencoh | no, I just ... thought about those crazy people that actually packaged it :) |
| 23:08.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
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