IRC log for #maemo on 20140426

00:23.48DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: axtually thanks for the script blueprint, I've been considering sth like this to "fix" this can of bullshit to work with my other fix for docpurge
00:24.45DocScrutinizer05but actually it seems I'm prolly better off (and smarter) by just deleting /usr/sbin/docpurge all together
00:25.17DocScrutinizer05or replace it with a 0-liner 0-byte file with +x
00:27.20DocScrutinizer05worst case witj a 1-liner: #!/bin/sh
00:28.54DocScrutinizer05libbb/obscure.c  ??? WTF?
00:32.39DocScrutinizer05fix a thinko - HAHA
00:33.05DocScrutinizer05xes: incredible!
00:34.16DocScrutinizer05shuf: improve help textshuf: trim help text --- cooool
00:37.04xesDocScrutinizer05: would you assign important tasks to an embedded device running busybox? ;)
00:37.19DocScrutinizer05s/fear/horror and loathing/
00:37.35DocScrutinizer05xes: I definitely shouldn't
00:39.27MaxdamantusHm. Can the menu thing that pops up as you plug in USB be disabled easily?
00:47.34DocScrutinizer05I think yes, it can
00:48.40DocScrutinizer05in HARM there's something to select "always just charge", or "always PC-Suite" in settings. I think sth similar exists for fremantle
00:48.54DocScrutinizer05maybe as package in extras(-*)
01:02.31DocScrutinizer05xes: alas busybox seems to be on all routers I use
01:03.15DocScrutinizer05I'm just happy that it usually doesn't do much after booting up the router gear
01:08.04xesfor sure it gives a minimalist environment... but any script could give unpredictable surprises since anyone uses as reference the standard gnu commands syntax and NOT the busybox limited functions
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01:13.47MaxdamantusHm. Is the image verification in the maemo talk search broken?
01:14.12MaxdamantusAh, nvm.
01:14.34Maxdamantusmight've been because I had the IP address as the host.
01:14.50Maxdamantuswonders why those addresses turn up in Google.
01:24.31xesMaxdamantus: search works also pointing at the IP address
01:31.29Maxdamantusxes: the captcha does?
01:31.57MaxdamantusDunno if the captcha appears when logged in.
01:35.49MaxdamantusHm. What is actually different in maemo's x11 input system?
01:36.06Maxdamantusie, why doesn't xev work?
01:36.13Maxdamantusor, probably related, mupdf.
01:37.53MaxdamantusHmm .. http://qwerty12.qole.org/xev.diff
01:49.07MaxdamantusCool, applied the same thing to mupdf and that works now.
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02:30.25DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: please update the repos!
02:31.09MaxdamantusHm. mupdf is in the repos?
02:31.23MaxdamantusDoesn't seem to be.
02:31.35MaxdamantusMight be worth adding, dunno.
02:31.45bef0rdI think I saw it there
02:32.05bef0rdoh no
02:32.05bef0rdhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86538
02:32.07MaxdamantusIt's in the debian repo.
02:32.10bef0rdit's something based on mupdf
02:33.38Maxdamantusthat UI looks crazy.
02:35.07DocScrutinizer05prolly not, I don't even know what it is
02:35.14DocScrutinizer05however xev is in x11-utils
02:35.29DocScrutinizer057.4+2-1maemo3 0
02:35.38MaxdamantusIt's basically a PDF viewer without any buttons.
02:36.16Maxdamantusand importantly, it doesn't try to load the entire PDF at once, which is what I suspect the default one does.
02:37.08DocScrutinizer05which xev you used?
02:38.50MaxdamantusProbably the xev on Gentoo x86_64
02:41.09DocScrutinizer05Filename: pool/maemo5.0/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb
02:44.07DocScrutinizer05hmm, enable-catalogs definitely needs a tiny bit more love
02:44.07Maxdamantusii  x11-utils                                           7.4+2-1maemo3                      X11 utilities
02:44.17MaxdamantusThis one doesn't seem to work either.
02:44.27DocScrutinizer05:-/
02:44.28Maxdamantus"work" as in respond to key events.
02:44.37Maxdamantusit shows pointer events fine.
02:44.44DocScrutinizer05so could you fix it?
02:44.49MaxdamantusSame behaviour as mupdf without those extra hints.
02:44.51MaxdamantusAh.
02:45.34MaxdamantusMaybe if I can figure out how to properly build and submit packages.
02:45.51MaxdamantusProbably also worth adding mupdf if I do.
02:46.39DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide
02:46.56DocScrutinizer05~sb
02:46.56infobot[scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
02:48.28DocScrutinizer05a shame nokia didn't fix that stuff in tools repo
02:53.52DocScrutinizer05actually there are 2:  Filename: pool/fremantle/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb     and    Filename: pool/maemo5.0/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb. Prolly extras-devel and tools repo
02:54.44DocScrutinizer05it's so DAMN useful that apt doesn't show the repo URL
03:13.38Maxdamantuswonders how maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh is expected to work.
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03:14.15Maxdamantussuspects that's meant to be `$lhs eq $rhs`, but can't see how noone would've noticed.
03:17.08MaxdamantusI think it's even meant to be comparing scratchbox versions, not dpkg versions.
03:19.57DocScrutinizer05:nod:
03:20.29DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB
03:20.35DocScrutinizer05VM
03:21.00DocScrutinizer05or ask freemangordon, he claims to have installed it successfully, 2 minths ago
03:21.06DocScrutinizer05months even
03:21.27MaxdamantusI think I installed it successfully too, but it wouldn't work again when I tried it.
03:21.49MaxdamantusI remember modifying the installation scripts though when things messed up.
03:21.59DocScrutinizer05yep, me too
03:22.07DocScrutinizer05~3 or 4 years ago
03:22.39DocScrutinizer05my job been "easier" since I isntalled it to a RPM system
03:23.03Maxdamantuseta 2h 1m  
03:23.32MaxdamantusHm. There's a torrent for it somewhere, isn't there?
03:23.33DocScrutinizer05I think the suse howto still is available in some dusty archive
03:23.39MaxdamantusMeh, I'll just wait.
03:24.29DocScrutinizer05how's a torrent faster? the uplink at merlin#s box for sure won't get maxed out by your downlink
03:25.07DocScrutinizer05I think I copied those 1.2GB in <10 min
03:25.12DocScrutinizer05to my box
03:25.14MaxdamantusI don't think those are the only two variables.
03:25.48Maxdamantusbut it's only downloading at 200 KiB/s
03:25.52DocScrutinizer05eeew
03:26.35DocScrutinizer05maybe the box is just busy with backups
03:26.44MaxdamantusI know I can get 1.7 MiB/s in optimal conditions (at night, decent distribution of sources)
03:27.39Maxdamantusbut usually at least 1 MiB/s at this time with decently seeded torrents.
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03:37.49DocScrutinizer05maybe US based torrents
03:38.06DocScrutinizer05merlin is on juniper2.rz10, I'm on juniper2.rz12
03:38.31DocScrutinizer05routing until that is same for me
03:39.12DocScrutinizer05prolly Russia already started cyberwar and DDoS against USA ;-P
03:40.00MaxdamantusIt's obviously an artificial throttle somewhere.
03:40.32Maxdamantussince each connection is 200 KiB/s each
03:40.53Maxdamantuss/ each$//
03:40.56DocScrutinizer05yeah, smells like QoS
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06:49.46Maxdamantuswonders if this VM image has a password for `maemo`
06:50.10MaxdamantusOh, the password is "maemo"
06:50.36Maxdamantustried that before but didn't think about the VM using a different keyboard layout.
06:53.45Maxdamantuswonders what bootloader it's using.
06:55.52Maxdamantusgrub, apparently.
06:56.17MaxdamantusHas one of these stupid generated grub.cfgs
07:01.12MaxdamantusMk, boots properly with my two-line entry.
07:01.37Maxdamantusrather than printing out something about missing a mode for half a second before rebooting.
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08:59.44Maxdamantuswonders how to switch targets in sb
09:01.51Maxdamantusah, sb-conf se FREMANTLE_ARMEL
09:01.55Maxdamantuswas trying st
09:02.18Maxdamantusso .. sbox-config -st = sb-conf se ?
09:02.26MaxdamantusDunno.
09:02.36Maxdamantushas little of an idea of what's going on anywhere.
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17:01.38srimalikDocScrutinizer05: ping
17:02.33srimalikDocScrutinizer05: I reopened the device once again and doubled checked and put some more force on each of the joints of ribbon cable.
17:02.42srimalikafter the that the touch screen was OK
17:03.45srimalikI also checked the logs and seems that you finally found the command to launch the calibration program, Thanks for the efforts
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