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| 10:03.02 | Sicelo | finally caught me.. my N900 USB is loose |
| 10:03.43 | Sicelo | but after daily use, charging, since July 2011, i guess it was just about time, haha |
| 10:04.58 | Sicelo | ~usb-fix |
| 10:04.58 | infobot | i guess usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, or you will basically need two irons |
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| 11:05.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: any particular mistreatment? |
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| 11:09.08 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 12:07.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-N9-64GB-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-/261172966959 still US$370 |
| 12:08.09 | Apic | 'the Fuck? |
| 12:18.45 | zGrr | hehe |
| 12:21.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | too expensive to rip out the SoC for Neo900 ;-) |
| 12:23.35 | zGrr | Will the Neo900 run on the same SoC? |
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| 12:45.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, almost |
| 12:47.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly we can't find the unobtainium 1GB RAM + NAND PoP chip on top of the 3730 SoC. Nokia got a custom build for that chip, it's non-existent on the "free market" |
| 12:48.18 | Apic | B-* |
| 12:48.20 | Apic | B-( even |
| 12:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | but on the bright side, we hope to use a 1GB RAM only PoP chip, and place the NAND we need on a discrete chip |
| 12:50.59 | Apic | Ok |
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| 15:28.22 | wizbit | my god, this is so cool |
| 15:28.32 | wizbit | just got back home, and i can automatically ssh into my phone |
| 15:28.52 | ZogG_laptop | did you rediscover america? |
| 15:28.58 | wizbit | im in UK |
| 15:29.29 | wizbit | i can now wget or sftp new music and video to the phone without even touching it |
| 15:29.48 | wizbit | this is beyond cool |
| 15:29.49 | r00t^home | been doing that ever since... miss it with android |
| 15:30.35 | wizbit | the n900 plays music and video flawless |
| 15:30.38 | r00t^home | i don't even need to know where my phone is to put stuff on it |
| 15:30.45 | wizbit | yes exactly |
| 15:31.04 | wizbit | im glad i didnt take the iphone / android path |
| 15:31.51 | wizbit | is there a way to send a sms from the terminal so i didnt even have to touch the phone? |
| 15:32.00 | wizbit | *dont |
| 15:33.57 | r00t^home | google says http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/DBus/DBus_in_Freemantle#Send_SMS |
| 15:34.39 | r00t^home | also: put xvncserver on the phone and control the gui remotely |
| 15:34.52 | wizbit | oh yes |
| 15:35.39 | r00t^home | apt-get install x11vnc |
| 15:35.56 | wizbit | r00t^home: should i use HAM to install it? |
| 15:37.07 | r00t^home | wizbit: ham is slow useless bloatcrap, i never use it... people say you should use it for system updates... i "bricked" my phone once when installing a libc(?) update with apt |
| 15:38.02 | r00t^home | what's really scary about using vnc from/to the phone is seeing the resolution compared to my (2x) 1280x1024 desktop |
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| 15:39.07 | wizbit | does touchscreen work with vnc? |
| 15:39.24 | r00t^home | on which direction? |
| 15:40.05 | wizbit | on the computer |
| 15:40.43 | r00t^home | you just click instead... touchscreen in X is no magic, just a pointing device with the cursor hidden by default... and no multitouch anyway |
| 15:41.12 | r00t^home | (note: vnc onto n900 needs some fix for not being able to turn off the screensaver by moving the mouse) |
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| 16:24.16 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: no mistreatment really |
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| 16:25.05 | Sicelo | the signs that i was getting to this were that the device would stop charging unless the cable was secured in a certain way |
| 16:26.09 | Sicelo | what i really can't understand is - usb cable & charging via cable worked flawlessly all the time |
| 16:26.45 | Sicelo | and data transfer always worked fine |
| 16:29.52 | Sicelo | by the way, even now after soldering it down, charger is not even detected, but usb cable works fine, and it charges via this |
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| 16:29.57 | Sicelo | any idea now? |
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| 17:04.59 | erlehmann | Sicelo isn't it that chargers notify device via shorting data pins? |
| 17:05.05 | erlehmann | (i have no idea how it is with n900) |
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| 17:11.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: check your plugs |
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| 17:13.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: there are a few test from sw side you can do |
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| 17:14.06 | srimalik | hello |
| 17:14.18 | srimalik | I broke my ribbon connector of N900, recently got a new one from ebay and replaced it myself |
| 17:14.28 | srimalik | But, after the replacement my touch screen is not behaving, the touches are offseted to the left |
| 17:14.34 | srimalik | so I can not open the main menu on the top-left corner using the UI |
| 17:14.40 | srimalik | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.46 | srimalik | I have root access |
| 17:15.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | nice problem |
| 17:16.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | first of all, why do you see that offset now? changing the flat ribbon connector aka main flex shouldn't introduce much of a digitizer decalibration |
| 17:17.50 | srimalik | DocScrutinizer, I am not sure, maybe the new cable is bad or I did not fix it nicely |
| 17:18.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | check all the plugs if they are seated properly |
| 17:18.33 | srimalik | I am hoping to bring the device to a usable state by using the calibration tool. |
| 17:19.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | odds are your digitizer isn't plugged in properly and thus you most likely will not be able to calibrate screen |
| 17:19.42 | srimalik | The first time I fixed the cable the screen was flickring..I reopened and rechecked and made sure that all joins are ok..after which the screen was ok but I saw this touch offset issue |
| 17:19.53 | wizbit | anybody know where you put in MMS settings on a n900? |
| 17:19.56 | srimalik | I will try again tomorrow |
| 17:20.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: you need fmms app for that |
| 17:20.27 | wizbit | ace :D |
| 17:20.32 | srimalik | DocScrutinizer, thanks for the suggestion |
| 17:20.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | srimalik: yw. stay tuned! a few more sugestions will follow |
| 17:21.35 | srimalik | I will check the logs tomorrow, Its almost 11pm here |
| 17:21.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0048/twl4030_usb/vbus /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger |
| 17:21.48 | srimalik | I will post my updates here tomorrow |
| 17:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: vbus is 5V on VBUS, charger is D+/- short detected |
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| 17:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, he left |
| 17:28.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | no chance to talk him out of ruining his calib via /usr/bin/tscalibrate |
| 17:28.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | invoking it via settings gave "/usr/bin/tscalibrate cpanel 67108886" |
| 17:29.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | cpanel might mean "invoked from controlpanel aka settings", nfc about the numeric parameter |
| 17:31.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least the parameter is constant for consecutive calls |
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| 17:34.21 | wizbit | installed Yappari :D |
| 17:34.36 | wizbit | there was me thinking there wouldnt be many apps available for N900 |
| 17:38.03 | wizbit | i bet shazam doesnt work on a maemo |
| 17:38.03 | freemangordon | hmm, which reminds me... |
| 17:38.18 | freemangordon | I should check what's wrong with extras promotion |
| 17:38.41 | freemangordon | wizbit: www.midomi.com |
| 17:38.43 | freemangordon | ;) |
| 17:38.47 | wizbit | my god |
| 17:39.04 | wizbit | falls off chair |
| 17:39.58 | freemangordon | wizbit: there is flash 10 floating over the inet, if you need it |
| 17:41.10 | wizbit | freemangordon: is midomi in extras? |
| 17:41.22 | freemangordon | wizbit: this is a site |
| 17:41.30 | freemangordon | just open it with microb |
| 17:41.33 | wizbit | ohhh |
| 17:41.59 | wizbit | right i get you now, you need flash for it to work |
| 17:42.13 | freemangordon | you have flash already pre-installed |
| 17:42.19 | wizbit | excellent |
| 17:42.21 | freemangordon | but it is flash 9 |
| 17:42.44 | freemangordon | but you can get the .deb and upgrade to flash 10 if you need/want |
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| 17:50.00 | wizbit | if i receive a yappari video from a iphone, i can download the video, but when i press play it says 'media not supported' |
| 17:50.22 | wizbit | it doesnt matter anyhow! |
| 17:54.57 | freemangordon | wizbit: I guess it is some weird apple quicktime format |
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| 19:13.53 | ShadowJK | or very high res |
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| 19:28.19 | Sicelo | erlehmann: this is the original N900 charger, and i've confirmed the short is there |
| 19:34.19 | Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: the VBUS test gives 0 with the charger connected (does not even appear in dmesg/syslog) |
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| 19:40.16 | Sicelo | and the charger node shows 1 (but 0 if i use the nokia adapter for 'barrel-type' chargers) |
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| 20:21.28 | hxka_ | Sicelo: I have similar problem |
| 20:22.36 | hxka_ | Stock USB cable works flawlessly, but stock charger only if I tug the cable a bit in a certain direction |
| 20:23.43 | hxka | My guess is that the problem is not in connection of USB socket to the pcb, but in the socket itself |
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| 20:27.00 | Sicelo | the big question would be.. what - because if you are able to use the USB cable for data transfers properly, it suggests that at least contact with D+/- pins is good, |
| 20:27.20 | Sicelo | and obviously the power pins too |
| 20:40.25 | hxka | Probably some wearing, so the micro-defferences between different plugs suddelly started to matter |
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| 21:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I suggested: check your plugs |
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| 23:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | somebody with an idea about dpkg, apt-get, and HAM. Could you please have a look at http://privatepaste.com/8531db652f and tell me why it throws error? |
| 23:35.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind! could somebody PLEASE NUKE SHITTYBOX?! |
| 23:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/docpurge |
| 23:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 30 06:40 /usr/sbin/docpurge -> /bin/true |
| 23:36.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ ls -l /bin/true |
| 23:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Sep 11 2012 /bin/true -> busybox |
| 23:36.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ /usr/sbin/docpurge |
| 23:36.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | docpurge: applet not found |
| 23:36.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ |
| 23:36.14 | infobot | i heard $ is a dollar sign |
| 23:36.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | grrrrr! |
| 23:41.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, busybox is the worst broken piece of crap I seen since I quit with windows |
| 23:41.28 | xes | applet not found == hello there! i'm busybox and i'm makng a fool out of you... ;) |
| 23:43.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: exactly |
| 23:43.42 | Maxdamantus | Wonder if it'd be better not to make all of them symlinks. |
| 23:44.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I CBA to even check POSIX if a symlink should work like the target it links to. I'm sure that's an inevitable BUG in crappybox |
| 23:44.19 | Maxdamantus | It should work like that. |
| 23:44.29 | Maxdamantus | The problem is that busybox switches on argv[0] |
| 23:44.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I know |
| 23:45.08 | Maxdamantus | if you run the program as `/usr/sbin/docpurge`, argv[0] is going to be /usr/sbin/docpurge |
| 23:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I say "inevitable" |
| 23:46.35 | Maxdamantus | it's only inevitable because it's using symlinks. |
| 23:46.50 | Maxdamantus | it could instead use scripts of the form: |
| 23:46.56 | Maxdamantus | #!/bin/sh |
| 23:47.04 | Maxdamantus | exec busybox true "$@" |
| 23:47.34 | Maxdamantus | except for sh, which will use #!/bin/busybox sh |
| 23:56.25 | xes | to describe busybox, you could read the git changelog: http://git.busybox.net/busybox/log/ ...Considering that it should manage system tasks, it's pure fear. |