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| 01:07.49 | natsukao | hi |
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| 01:08.52 | natsukao | for all the users of nokia's, android, GNU/linux... |
| 01:08.59 | natsukao | see: http://pastebin.com/3A5h2QbJ |
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| 01:14.05 | natsukao | better to consult: http://pastebin.com/gjfd1SLR |
| 01:14.33 | natsukao | is fine explained, how to use on nokia 770 |
| 01:14.48 | natsukao | will not be, much different on the other ones |
| 01:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? |
| 01:15.53 | natsukao | if you are interested to modify the source code, add your names, the modifies you did, and explain how to use on different achitecture as i did |
| 01:16.12 | natsukao | yes, is only a script ! |
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| 01:17.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, this thing looks pretty fishy |
| 01:17.05 | natsukao | a script generated on X86 for NetBSD, and i found the way, to do work it on a ARM (RISC) on Nokia 770 |
| 01:18.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest to NOT test this stuff! |
| 01:18.04 | natsukao | the fact is that it works, and is just pretty for this |
| 01:18.16 | natsukao | i tested it, and it works |
| 01:18.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, the registry optimizer that hacked my bank account also worked just fine |
| 01:19.04 | natsukao | i explained how to use that script on Nokia 770 |
| 01:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | please stop that nonsense |
| 01:19.24 | natsukao | it was available only for OpenBSD |
| 01:20.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | when it's a script, it's completely nonsensical to claim it was for X86 |
| 01:20.28 | natsukao | anything, that can seems a strange game, generated with a script, or else, i think that would be accepted with pleasure |
| 01:20.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it only consists of 5 lines code that look terribly fishy |
| 01:20.51 | natsukao | and it works on ARM |
| 01:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | PLEASE STOP ADVERISING MALWARE! |
| 01:21.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | was that clear enough? |
| 01:21.18 | robbiethe1st | I don't see how it could do anything bad, despite seeming fishy |
| 01:21.24 | natsukao | maleware ? |
| 01:22.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: it's not exactly obvious but very strong indications it does rogue stuff |
| 01:22.27 | natsukao | that source code was generated to the # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. |
| 01:23.19 | natsukao | read any single row, before to type on the keyboard |
| 01:23.40 | natsukao | between 1985 and 1993 there was not the idea of a maleware |
| 01:23.58 | natsukao | maleware are things of late 2000 years |
| 01:24.08 | natsukao | not certenly in that era |
| 01:24.10 | robbiethe1st | uh |
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| 01:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | natsukao: last warning! |
| 01:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | SUUUURE |
| 01:26.24 | robbiethe1st | Isn't it basically just a 'wrapper' which executes the command line argument given in the given folder( /storage/sdcard0/Download/ ) on android |
| 01:26.44 | robbiethe1st | and if the file doesn't exist, echos a couple of silly lines |
| 01:26.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 01:27.00 | natsukao | because on the mobile phone, that i have had, there was not other way |
| 01:27.39 | robbiethe1st | It looks like something silly and useless from what... 93? when someone might have thought it funny |
| 01:27.42 | natsukao | as i said anyone is free to modify so that can use on his own architecture as he/she prefeers |
| 01:27.53 | robbiethe1st | harmful? I don't see any problems with it. |
| 01:28.00 | robbiethe1st | But I don't see any need to use it either |
| 01:28.11 | natsukao | on my mobile phone there was |
| 01:28.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a part of an obviously dangerous package |
| 01:29.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it for sure won't result in anything funny or useful |
| 01:29.18 | natsukao | basename is part of OpenBSD or of NetBSD, and is available in the directory /games |
| 01:29.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | absolutely last warning! |
| 01:29.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | take it elsewhere |
| 01:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly nobody in here needs lessons what's basename(1) |
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| 01:30.47 | natsukao | i used on Nokia 770, and it works, on GNU/linux gNewSense Deltah 2.3 linux kernel version 2.6.24-32 works fine |
| 01:31.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, sorry |
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| 01:31.20 | robbiethe1st | to be fair... http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bsdgames |
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| 01:32.20 | natsukao | if don't like what i type, you are free don't reply, |
| 01:32.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | might install to /storage/sdcard0/Download/ |
| 01:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | if N900 has such dir |
| 01:32.50 | natsukao | who are you to tell people what to type or not to type ? |
| 01:32.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | natsukao: you've been warned twice to stop |
| 01:33.20 | natsukao | I° Amendament of American Constitution defends Freedom Of Speech |
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| 01:33.45 | robbiethe1st | alright, that got stupid |
| 01:34.26 | robbiethe1st | On the other hand, package `bsdgames` in debian, indeed has that excecutable - /usr/games/wargames, which is almost the same. |
| 01:34.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess he's 12 y old |
| 01:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: possibly, but that appearance been too stupid |
| 01:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and when I hear exec /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x then my heuristics for malware shout ALARM!!!! |
| 01:36.27 | robbiethe1st | True |
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| 01:36.59 | robbiethe1st | also: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/apr/14/new-banksy-mural-near-gchq-depicts-agents-listening-in-on-phone-box |
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| 01:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (alarm) particularly when some hacker with tongue in cheek named the whole thing "wargames" |
| 01:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is all about backdoors and stuff |
| 01:40.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and intrusion, and computers going evil |
| 01:40.20 | natsukao_ | Paper of Human Rights defends Freedom Of Speech with 5 Article, Italian Consitution defends Freedom Of Speech with article 21 |
| 01:40.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang!!! |
| 01:40.49 | natsukao_ | as i just said i have not developed it, i only modified few rows |
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| 01:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | those articles don't apply to irc channels |
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| 01:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: next thing he suggests is: you need to have uSD card in android phone and then isntall package BSD-foobar there. Then swap uSD to Nokia phone and copy the script from pastebin. Then it works!! I swear!1!11 |
| 01:50.05 | robbiethe1st | hm |
| 01:50.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | wgich of course it still doesn't since on maemo there's no /storage/ |
| 01:51.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | but eventually he manages to talk other users into running completely untested possibly rogue stuff on their devices |
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| 01:56.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe on 770 maemo there actually been storage, dunno |
| 01:57.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | can't even recall the name of 770 maemo. Bora? |
| 01:58.41 | robbiethe1st | os2005, os2006 |
| 01:58.54 | robbiethe1st | I've got one around somewhere |
| 01:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 01:59.11 | robbiethe1st | even worked, last I checked... but too slow to do much |
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| 01:59.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames |
| 02:00.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | so Mistral, if anything |
| 02:00.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | Scirocco, or Gregale |
| 02:01.02 | robbiethe1st | yeah |
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| 02:09.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | suddenly recalls the "spare parts for Nokia N9-00" hits when searching the web |
| 02:10.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-o |
| 02:11.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I also wonder what's the current pricetaf for mint condition N950 |
| 02:11.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | pricetag* |
| 02:14.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ... /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x - TZZ |
| 02:15.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess without a +x you can't even exec such stuff, and for a +x the sdcard would need sth other than VFAT |
| 02:16.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, a mkdir -p /storage/sdcard0/Download/ for sure would work - until your rootfs is eaten by the crap |
| 02:32.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, there's a section about Nokia, which uses /usr/bin/games/ or somesuch instead of that /storage/sdcard.... |
| 02:32.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, whatever, 20 year old silly script, and no usefull instructions either |
| 02:33.22 | robbiethe1st | It's designed as a launcher for a bunch of other text games |
| 02:33.25 | robbiethe1st | from 20 years ago |
| 02:33.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 02:33.30 | robbiethe1st | see the bsdgames package |
| 02:33.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | the idea is to answer "chess", not "yes" |
| 02:34.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that would require "chess" binary to be installed in /usr/bin/games/ or whateveritwas |
| 02:34.48 | robbiethe1st | yes |
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| 08:27.49 | sixwheeledbeast | Anybody noticed an issue with the A-GPS again, both my N900's with SIM's fail to get a lock, happened on Sunday IIRC. |
| 08:28.49 | joga | google supl selected? |
| 08:29.39 | sixwheeledbeast | yep, checked all that. |
| 08:30.18 | joga | I think I last used gps about a week ago or so, didn't notice anything peculiar then |
| 08:32.17 | sixwheeledbeast | As I say A-GPS is on most of time for me so I noticed when it stopped. |
| 08:32.53 | sixwheeledbeast | FYI it has to be supl.nokia.com |
| 08:33.18 | sixwheeledbeast | but I have tested both with no luck |
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| 08:54.57 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: ^^^ IIRC you did the fix last time? If anyone can confirm it's not just me. |
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| 10:53.13 | TTilus | sixwheeledbeast: agps on my n900 has been failing for some time now |
| 10:53.31 | TTilus | sixwheeledbeast: if you find out anything, please share |
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| 11:59.08 | HAMIDx9 | is there any way to specify the mac address ? |
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| 13:52.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui gconf isn't meant to get used via editing files |
| 13:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool -R /|grep connectivity/IAP; is the way to go |
| 13:54.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | or "gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP" |
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| 14:01.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I don't know of any way to specify MAC addr of AP |
| 14:02.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI WLAN isn't even meant to do anything like that. Rather it's meant to roam between several AP with same SSID |
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| 15:16.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: Nokia just informs about their expected finalization of the sale of "Devices & Services" to M$ in April. I guess that's the definitive dead end for any maemo related negotiations with Nokia |
| 15:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | good luck for anybody trying to negotiate anything maemo related with M$ |
| 15:22.40 | Apic | =) |
| 15:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really |
| 15:23.07 | Apic | I find it sad that M$ bought Nokia |
| 15:26.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | on the bright side: not even the most loyal (soon ex-)nokian needs to worry about negative impact to his employer of him disclosing all sourcecodes |
| 15:28.41 | NIN101 | well, one can dream :-). |
| 15:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt anybody would dare to try and sue M$ for any copyright violations or breaking contracts that Nokia might have done |
| 15:29.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and for sure M$ is not liable for any of that |
| 15:29.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | security issues in flasher? who cares! |
| 15:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo at large? who cares! |
| 15:30.59 | NIN101 | yes, they won't care as it brings no money (any more). |
| 15:31.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless somebody in M$ smells a monetization plan |
| 15:32.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | hard to come up with a sensible story what such plan would look like... but who knows |
| 15:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily >95% of maemo are FOSS |
| 15:33.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | not even M$ has any means to revert that |
| 15:34.16 | Apic | Yeah |
| 15:35.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe M$ calls their next crappy phone OS "maemo" X-P |
| 15:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest we switch to "the-true-and-only-maemo" for name then |
| 15:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | will be interesting to watch a few whois results during the next months |
| 15:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | Domain Name:MAEMO.ORG |
| 15:39.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Registrant ID:mmr-31461 |
| 15:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | Registrant Name:Nokia Corporation |
| 15:39.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | Updated Date: 2014-01-07T10:24:55Z |
| 15:39.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Registry Expiry Date: 2015-02-07T16:26:32Z |
| 15:40.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Admin ID:mmr-31462 |
| 15:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | Admin Name:Nokia dnsauthority |
| 15:41.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | Tech ID:mmr-31463 |
| 15:41.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Tech Name:Nokia Hostmaster |
| 15:43.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | possible activities to be seen: a) nothing (until january next year, when domain either expires or gets renewed or whatever) b) transfer to HiFo c) transfer to M$ d) deletion |
| 15:44.43 | deepy | HiFo? |
| 15:44.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | given all previous examples, I'd bet on a) |
| 15:44.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hifo |
| 15:45.07 | Apic | =) |
| 15:45.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | omg |
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| 15:45.31 | deepy | It'll probably redirect to the WP page |
| 15:45.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 15:46.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues hildon |
| 15:46.33 | deepy | transferred to MS and then redirected to the WP page |
| 15:46.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's "WP page"? |
| 15:47.14 | deepy | http://www.windowsphone.com/ |
| 15:47.35 | Apic | Ouch |
| 15:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 15:47.45 | Apic | That'd be an Epic Fail |
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| 17:18.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi maemonians! I'd need a betatester (or two) for http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs |
| 17:19.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | how to use: enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings |
| 17:20.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | <change catalogs in HAM> |
| 17:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs save mySpecialSettings |
| 17:20.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | <do some apt-get install stuff for example> |
| 17:20.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | <revert to standard:> |
| 17:21.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs myDefaultCatalogSettings |
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| 17:21.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | see enable-catalogs -h for details |
| 17:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I did cursory tests, but as usual: no warranty explicit or implied, for fitness for any purpose, damage, eaten cats... |
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| 17:29.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, as you might have guessed, you should copy the file to somewhere in your $PATH (maybe actually /usr/local/sbin/, if that's part of $PATH), you should chmod +x it, and you will *need root* to execute it |
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| 17:50.21 | Sc0rpius | freemangordon, still no Yappari 1.1.46 armel in Extras :( |
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| 17:57.56 | jean_brat | maemo extras are down? |
| 17:58.12 | jean_brat | nothing is getting downloaded |
| 17:59.35 | hxka | DocScrutinizer05: why are you creating hardlinks? |
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| 18:00.02 | hxka | That's total nonsense |
| 18:00.49 | hxka | > enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings |
| 18:00.56 | hxka | > <change catalogs in HAM> |
| 18:01.18 | hxka | After that all of the changes will appear in myDefaultCatalogSettings as well |
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| 18:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: errrr |
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| 18:06.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually any change in file content *should* result in unlinking and creating a new file of same name |
| 18:07.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless the process opened the existing file for modification, which is not what I'd expect HAM to do |
| 18:08.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I might be wrong, that's why I ask for testers' review ;-) |
| 18:10.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | if the process editing the file was a hexeditor then I'd agree |
| 18:11.59 | hxka | https://privatepaste.com/b74327317c |
| 18:13.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I owe you one :-D |
| 18:14.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | removes a few "l" |
| 18:14.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: many thanks! |
| 18:15.06 | hxka | You're welcome :) |
| 18:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's the rest? like 'list' and 'delete' ? |
| 18:16.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | (ok, it's so trivial it really better be right) |
| 18:17.53 | hxka | Ha-ha! I don't like that delete doen't check whether the directoy exists before trying to remove it, but that's not critical |
| 18:18.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I been lazy. pondered check but thought "meh!" |
| 18:18.43 | hxka | Same with restoring |
| 18:19.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly I'll set up the script so it exits on error, and implement a trap for error handling and diagnostic output |
| 18:20.14 | hxka | And there is not much point in using checkname function anywhere except saving |
| 18:20.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | really? |
| 18:20.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 18:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | enable catalogs '; rm -rf /' |
| 18:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | this sort of stuff |
| 18:22.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs delete ../../../* |
| 18:23.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure I could use basename or whatever |
| 18:24.09 | hxka | Second point is valid |
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| 18:24.55 | hxka | As for the first one, variables should be put in doublequotes |
| 18:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 18:25.30 | hxka | One of the reasons I hate sh |
| 18:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess I missed to consistently do that |
| 18:25.56 | hxka | It provides so many ways to shoot oneself in the foot |
| 18:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, sh has its issues |
| 18:26.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | but one advantage: it's ubiquitous |
| 18:26.43 | Ken-Young | So is tooth decay. |
| 18:26.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | (you can argue binary is also ;-P) |
| 18:27.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | no sarcastic comments re main() ? ;) |
| 18:28.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | makes mental note to test the script under messybox too |
| 18:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it's a POC, that I just had to save to safely disconnect from my wlan ssh session ;-) |
| 18:30.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | since I'm going afk, RL calling |
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| 18:32.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | (main) a nice way of my own to make sure at least the syntax of whole script is correct |
| 18:35.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:/etc/enable-catalogs# enable-catalogs --help |
| 18:35.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs: line 41: syntax error: ")" unexpected (expecting ";;") |
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| 18:41.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | updated version in http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs |
| 18:42.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl |
| 18:45.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just wonder if I should already add an `apt-get update` at end of restore section |
| 18:45.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly sucks |
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| 19:23.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/session-log_enable-catalogs_README.txt |
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| 19:52.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird how similar http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/dontpanic/1.0/ looks to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/bootvideo-DONTPANIC/ |
| 19:54.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | took him 9 months to create a package from my stuff, and yet no credits anywhere? |
| 19:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, "my" stuff, since I can't recall who been the one who rendered it. Maybe it's been him |
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| 20:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75343 |
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| 21:53.23 | sixwheeledbeast | TTilus: It's decided to start working again this evening. I haven't changed anything. I will keep an eye on it for now hasn't been working for ~2 days. |
| 21:55.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | strange stuff happening with AGPS |
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| 21:55.56 | LjL-Tablet | what is it this time, did nokia's servers start telling everyone we live on the moon |
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| 22:02.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly sixwheeledbeast's AGPS got bogus data from GSM so it never recovered from that, while it lasts |
| 22:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>...hasn't been working for ~2 days.<< |
| 22:03.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: you should've tested with SIM removed |
| 22:03.51 | sixwheeledbeast | On two separate N900's ... |
| 22:04.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | same SIM? same carrier? |
| 22:04.14 | sixwheeledbeast | different sim different carrier |
| 22:04.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm, then it's sth different |
| 22:04.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | then prolly the supl server been same on both? |
| 22:05.13 | sixwheeledbeast | only nokia works now but tested both at the time |
| 22:05.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or your local GPS signal got jammed, by whatever |
| 22:05.24 | sixwheeledbeast | both being nokia and google |
| 22:06.59 | sixwheeledbeast | I have moved between different locations, but that is a possibly |
| 22:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, there's hardly a magic hidden channel that tells two N900 to stop GPS operation, except carrier and supl server |
| 22:09.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | GPS needs/uses: *- hardware; *- supl; *- GSM-carrier; *- GPS signal |
| 22:09.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess that's it. |
| 22:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | AGPS that is. GPS only uses hardware and GPS signal |
| 22:10.44 | nox- | just fixed my printer's clock that was 1 hr into the future, might be some wrong/old tz data? |
| 22:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | so unless there's been a common timebomb in N900 GPS realted software, I don't see any way how two N900 could sync to stop GPS, unless it's the GPS signal itself that's garbled |
| 22:11.32 | nox- | or wrong timezone? |
| 22:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | OOOOH! YES! :-P |
| 22:11.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | AGPS is very very prone to incorrect RTC time on board |
| 22:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | age old known (d)effect |
| 22:12.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ |
| 22:12.37 | nox- | gps recorder sets click from gps, once you get a fix... |
| 22:13.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, once you get a fix. But what you gonna do when you need correct tme to get a fix? ;-D |
| 22:13.14 | nox- | hehe |
| 22:13.24 | nox- | ntp? |
| 22:14.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^^ |
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| 22:14.35 | sixwheeledbeast | time and tz are fine |
| 22:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang, whould've made a good explanation |
| 22:14.58 | nox- | hm |
| 22:17.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | you didn't by any accident have another GPS receiver around that you used to check GPS availability? |
| 22:18.34 | sixwheeledbeast | no this was what I was about to do when I noticed a fix |
| 22:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | RTLSDR FTW |
| 22:24.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, the S/N of GPS signal is really too low to check for jammers with RTL |
| 22:25.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated off-topic sidenote: 5,1G /home/jr/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend |
| 22:27.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders which apprentice was allowed to implement his bizarre ideas there |
| 22:29.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like "school of tracker", particularly the class which got tought to store emails in a sqlite db |
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